I figured this very same thing out by myself, about thirty years ago. I completely agree with this speaker. This is a logical way of thinking, but problem is that most of the people just doesn't understand, nor do they care when you start to talk about this kind of ideas. They need proof that it can work. GOOD LUCK!

@Axrover

7 жыл бұрын

I resent his "I know more than you tone." I knew this too in 994 when I was first exposed computers, I was 17. Many other people have known this from earlier (See star trek and star wars creators and almost any kind of sci-fi writer) I lost an accounts payable job to a software bot in 1998, and made a joke of it since it was ironic my degree was in Management Info Systems, which deals with aims to proving workplace processes thru the application of tech

@starrlite2032

5 жыл бұрын

George Galamb ... Oh, it will! And thank the heavens for the technology. An "excellent" improvement for disgruntled poorly servicing humans.

@sergkapitan2578

4 жыл бұрын

We are with you brother:)) I have thought of this long long time ago also by myself:))) God prompts:)))

@animadverte

2 жыл бұрын

true. most people are no as smart as you.

"Compulsory work for the sake of survival is an obstacle that prevents us from achieving these goals"

I have thought this for a long time and couldn't agree more. Wonderful talk!

Woo! Universal Basic Income, all the way!

@someone-cs3lk

9 жыл бұрын

That is helpful but understand that corporates control politics so they would not want to get tax more or help people. We need a resource-based economy. I am not sure exactly how we are going to get there.

@deksman

9 жыл бұрын

***** A universal Basic income is one alternative for a transitional period to RBE... but a universal basic income is already being seriously considered as an idea in Switzerland and a referendum on it will be held I think in 2016 (cannot be sure on the exact date). In UK, the existing benefits system would have to undergo a relatively minor alteration to create the UBI. Other countries that have a version of the welfare system could also pull it off, as well as those that don't. Reality of the situation is that once the idea starts rolling in one country, it will be impossible to stop it...

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Yang 2020 he’s running for UBI

@trongayaucogi9545

4 жыл бұрын

Less people

@ezravandermeer2728

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe

Goosebumps! I've been thinking about this for the past 16 years.... Buy you were able to put it out clearly and smoothly. Thanks buddy

I don't think he is talking about a Utopia, it sounds more along the lines of necessary evolution similar to what discovering fire did in changes to the human race including the size and intelligence of the human brain. It also freed up time for creative thought and development that took us to where we are today. We, as a species are outstripping the planets ability to sustain us, change is the next step, but what change?

You're the best Federico!!! Thank you Brother!

first half of the talk is quite good. second half should have been stolen by a robot.

@consumeredition7838

8 жыл бұрын

j okal Well, hopefully that's the case - but if the ultra-rich are really determined, they could potentially acquire an unlimited robot army to do their bidding and suppress any resistance the masses may mount against them. Such an army will merely carry out any given instructions and have 0 moral hangups about terminating their fellow humans or countrymen as human soldier may have.

@swagatopablo

8 жыл бұрын

***** He is another bloody leftist who does not understand what the heck he is talking about. The message is he sends is an out and out political message having little to do with automation. But he will deny it and say it is a TECHNOLOGY talk.

@jameswhite3415

8 жыл бұрын

+Pasu suel As soon as we build a robot that can upgrade itself, or build a better version of itself we have past the torch whatever will that robot develops will be what happens we will be powerless to stop it, anyway you program it will override our programing eventually

@jameswhite3415

8 жыл бұрын

Pasu suel The greatest weapon is ofcourse intelligence. I would imagine if an Ai is one trillion times as smart as us in evreything AI on similar would think similarly. And if one decided to wipe out humanity the rest would probaly agree. They would probably wipe us out with out us even knowing whats happening before its too late.

@c6drives180

7 жыл бұрын

Tis Toni THIS COMMENT 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Very good information and delivery. Thanks for this , Pistono!

Maybe is the background, the words of so many thinkers of so many ages, but i think this is the most brilliant talk i will ever listen to. Thank you very, very much!

It's inaccurate that we gave up slavery. It's accurate that we pushed outside of lawful conduct. It's more pervasive now than at any time in history.

@earthworm4255

8 жыл бұрын

+gespilk Perhaps Basic Income will do something to change your expectation of "job" making your existence meaningful.

@FatherElectric

8 жыл бұрын

+Earth Worm Which corporation do you assume will allow you a basic income?

@crisclucas5182

8 жыл бұрын

Basic income would come from your Government.

@ChristinaOstil115

7 жыл бұрын

Government is run by taxpayers' money. Without money there is no government.

@Syklonus

5 жыл бұрын

True freedom is the ability to say "no" to anything without consequence, including any job. Try doing that and you'll end up homeless or in jail from debt. That's not freedom.

Thank you so much.

Wow, I would love to see him on TED. My vote is with this guy!

Favorite TEDtalk yet!

Absolutely wonderful. I wish to see this on the main TED channel one day.

Thanks Frederico! Some other great sources of info on this topic of Technological Unemployment are "The End of Work" by Jeremy Rifkin. "The Lights in the Tunnel" by Martin Ford. "The Race Against the Machine" by Andrew McAffee. And my favorite documentary "Zeitgeist Moving Forward"

Well done Federico! It is clear that this talk really blends your book with what you learned at SU.

Outstanding presentation.This is vital knowledge, and the delivery is class

BRILLIANT! Exactly my perspective of a "BRILLIANT" future for human kind as I watch, learn and experience the fast growing of technology and AI. One just need to fill that Half empty Glass (uncertainty) with positivity and optimism. Negativity enslave the mind, blind one's vision, dull one's senses.! Thank you for your time, your vision and a beautiful presentation.

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

SubjectDelta9 Andrew Yang 2020 he’s running for UBI

The fact no one raise their hand for any of those blue-collar jobs is really stunning. I really like these Ted talks but it seems a lot of the people who go to them or who are in the comment section our academic snobs

@springforward2010

7 жыл бұрын

That's because you have an inferiority complex and are projecting it onto others. You are not better than they are because you believe in the myth of class integration. Classism is real and has always been around, do you think your frustration will change it? I hear predjudice in your writing.

@zoompt-lm5xw

6 жыл бұрын

+Fish King Yes. This type of crowd lives in their own bubble. They think they are so progressive and they are always sniffing prejudice in other people. Yet they only know people of their own class. "Les savants ridicules" as Moliere called them

@Syklonus

5 жыл бұрын

That doesn't make the point he's making any less valid. I don't know any bin men, but if I say 2+2 = 4 it's still true.

@hooh1644

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe blame the blue collars for not attending?

Great way of thinking, great speach.

Thank you for bringing us this knowledge when your job is not at stake.

Well done, Federico. Keep fighting for humanity.

Well said Federico and well done with what you have achieved. I've hung on to the original mission statement that TZM was established on and I recall thanking you for your input on the day that you left the original forum. You made sense and what I thought the movement was about and not superstition and anarchy which was the reality I faced. Respect and full support. Best regards Jonathan

Phew!! It's good to have you here to save us from believing the notions that we might achieve something better for children and grandchildren. Now I know I can just sit back and give up without having wasted a lot of energy on this.

Excellent man..!!!! I am on to your side Federico :-)

That moment when he picked up the book and the letter "i" wobbled. My gosh the SUSPENSE!

great speech federico! i loved your 'radical idea'!

fantastic Federico!

I think what his really trying to say is that everyone should focus more on living, which in its sense is very utopian as Survival is a part of our existence that cannot be neglected or overlooked.

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

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I love Fedrico's style. He has a great way of talking to people who would normally be afraid of the topic. It would restore my faith in TED if he got to speak on it.

Brilliant!

I love this thought!

Good job, Federico!

no , it's not ok that a robot takes my job. I love my job ,it's my passion. it''s not something that I want to avoid.

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

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@donicamcarthur2500

2 жыл бұрын

What is your job?

Very nice :) I will try to purchase the book then...

excelente necesitamos subtitulo!!!

This is really nice , it relates to every one in 2K18

Great presentation that I recommend all inhabits of planet Earth should watch!!

This is the most relevant video EVER!!!

brilliant!

Ever since I was a kid, I was always thinking about how and why things are as they are in this society. Humans are greedy, we constantly seek profit and growth to satisfy our endless needs. We contribute to society in a way that doesn't necessarily suit us and we don't think far. After multiple reflections, I ended up with the same conclusion as Federico and other thinkers. However, in the case of income, we technically don't need money if we can do things ourselves and do barter. If we can decrease our consumption needs, reduce our costs and be more self-sufficient, basic and vital needs like physiological needs would be fulfilled. Of course, this transition can be made by learning new skills and by changing our mindset. Robots should not be used for mass production but as facilitators, as humans' companions that permit to take care of the most dangerous, time-consuming, technical jobs and make life easier.

Love it Fede! Happy birthday to all of us - now lets go invent and create ;)

Well done bro

I just wanna live in Star Trek

@koneko3774

8 жыл бұрын

+qeebo that's the point? They do it because they like it and that's the lifestyle they want to live. When no one is suffering and all the jobs are taken by robots, you get bored. So people can pursue what they truly love. Doctor work won't be as rigorous and people will learn those things for knowledge and the quality of work done increases because people genuinely care about what they do.

@koneko3774

8 жыл бұрын

+qeebo well Sisko deserves some credit for kind of almost having a family life.

@Ramiromasters

8 жыл бұрын

"Just reality shows that idle people become lazy" How they become idle? What is idle to you? What is lazy? What is a waste of time? Can lazy people not be idle? can idle people not be lazy? I see more than a few holes in your argument, for such short argument to have that many questionable things its an indication of an idea that lacks development. It could be right, just need to answer the question that it brings before that.

@manojalappat1880

7 жыл бұрын

Koneko to

@mareli82

7 жыл бұрын

if you need an example on stuff created and not getting paid , wikipedia !

Dat Fight Club quote

i totaly agree: we don't need to work in the way we work today... Let's just work 2, 3 hours a day, not more....

Very good video.

Way to go Frederico!

Rock on Federico!

Omg, it's so painfully obvious! Incredible talk Fed! Fed @ Ted... that should be a campaign.

love this talk

Federico Pistono for world government leader!

Good to know.

This guy is awesome

niceeee!

good performance, Federico!

yes!!

brilliant

Hahaha, great plan Federico! That destroys the government since they feed of income taxes and since no one is working, that destroys corporations who want us to buy buy buy, but we can't because we are not earning a living. Great way to finally destroy state and corporate power. You slay me Federico.

Nice reference for the title

Outstand Speech!

Dear Federico has forgotten the main ingredient for massive social change: Hunger. That's gonna come too, all too soon for too many people.

@AlintraxAika

8 жыл бұрын

Why? Robots will enable us to have a massive production, including food.

@sarahwilliamson1556

7 жыл бұрын

especially with vertical farms.

@daisyrushton1574

7 жыл бұрын

I think he meant hunger for change, not hunger for food.

@sarahwilliamson1556

7 жыл бұрын

thomas rushton like a change in thinking, ie farms don't need to be acres of land, and robots can run stuff.:D LIKE VERTICAL FARMS!1!!1 :D

@Fuar11

6 жыл бұрын

Vertical Farms, Underground Farms, Indoor Farms, Solar Farms, Mass Production Farms by Automation, Genetic Food Production. I can keep going! Hunger isn't a problem.

But my purpose (what i was thinking before I was told I need to earn a living) was what I want to do to earn a living. I love it!

I think this change is coming , otherwise, things will collapse. I hope we can see the need and make the change.

cant upvote this one enough!!!!

I totally agree with the speaker

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

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Loved the comparison between giving up our dearly held beliefs about work, to previously giving up the beliefs about slavery... could that also be a metaphor?

Very inspireing. And it states the obvious truth of our current destiny. However he fail to adresse why we are on this counter intuitive and self destructive path. It is because of our intrincic behaviour. The old animal parts of our psichy. And our own rationality is not strong enough to prevail (hence the obisity crisys). A vision, no matter how compelling, is not enough

Brilliant * 10

Federico Pistono for president ! ! ! !

WOW!

This is actually genius!!

You are the súper King 💪👍

We keep on talking about it for years, but what we want is a solution and seem like we didn't have it yet.

We have the technology. We just have to implement it. Solar and wind could be used (without needing to store the power) if we network the power grid globally. What is stopping us is the need for competing companies to make a profit. (I mean you just can't share - how would that look?) Unless that obstacle can be overcome, Geo-thermal seems to be the best possible option that everyone loves to ignore (probably because power would become to cheap for anyone to make any money from it).

Basic Income--- we need it badly already yesterday!!!!

Wasn't it who Buckminster Fuller who actually made that quote? Not Arthur C. Clarke. Great talk though!

He never gave any concrete solutions- just sold a dream

Yes, every human being is a valuable masterpiece. Human culture needs to embrace a future, where science & technology is at the service of humanity & in harmony with nature. The Future is Beautiful ! The Future is Now !

Why didn´t you post join TZM at the end ? So everyone could know what the possible solution can be =)

thumbs up for the shirt!

VENUS PROJECT anyone.. I wonder if this guy did spend some time with the projects director Jacque Fresco? Jacques vision "The Venus Project" and the implementation of a Resource Based Economy is the most feasible alternative to our current broken socioeconomic system. For anyone interested please check out "The Venus Projects" KZread channel for some wonderfully insightful perspectives.

Would you say the same if your job was automated?

For an Italian guy he speaks very good English. Good talk.

He fails to realize that there are people who measure their self-worth by inequality.

HEY THERES A FIGHT CLUB QUOTE.

@emanuelb.2559

8 жыл бұрын

+Koneko yes, it was a very dumb thing to say

@1503nemanja

8 жыл бұрын

+Emanuel Alejandro Blanco It wasn't a great thing to say and a few of his jokes felt lame and unnecessary. But his point is good and his passion for it real.

@countchocula2169

7 жыл бұрын

Koneko a man talking to idiot ted audiences doesn't have to quote well known things. Just pass them off as his own and get laid

11:14 writes a book = sales = earning a living.

@r.i.s.e.3908

8 жыл бұрын

+togethia I applaud Federico if he is actually earning a living from writing a book, I have published five books and so far I would be homeless if I had to live off the modest income from them.

@GabrieleBonetti

6 жыл бұрын

Except the book is free

Great speech! I`m just a young man like you and I`ll try to make the world better, for a non-competivive world, a cooperative world, where machines are just tools to spare time for us. By the way Civilisation is a Z "Civilization" ; P Be fine Federico Pistono and keep that dream alive, be proud of him.

good idea but before you quit your job make sure you can live off the grid. make sure you have an energy source like solar, wind or anything else that might work for you and also make sure you have a garden/farm that will produce enough food all year round. in other words be self-sufficient/sustainable. all this involves lots of learning (in case you haven't already) and preparation but you will find it will make a happier living ;)

can I get the transcript of this talk

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

anand kokatnur Andrew Yang 2020 he’s running for UBI Google Andrew Yang H3 podcast or joe Rogan Andrew Yang

Why can I not find out the cost of administrating Social Protection in my Country and be able to decide if Universal Basic Income, payable to all regardless of income and wealth or status may be more efficient and cheaper than the present system of means tests, application forms, poverty traps and bureucracy that exists? I am sure it is high. THe transition from work to no work will be painful because there will be a fight for the work-free status and some people will still be needed to do the drudge work. How do you reward them ? THe fight will be on to take wealth from the owners of robots, people-less factories etc. This will be highly unpleasant. Increasingly people will work not for money but as a hobby or for praise but this will take time to accomplish.

Instanity?< I am meant to get something here? I thought I was good with wordplay.

KZread Andrew Yang

@HeyCharlieBrown

4 жыл бұрын

Michael YangGang 💯 Yang Gang!!

@gianni.santi.

4 жыл бұрын

YANG GANG

Have my like.

nice Utopie!

The solution is The Venus Project. Search The Venus Project. They also have videos on KZread

The problem is, people are greedy. They will not be satisfied with a basic guaranteed income. This will be compounded when low IQ people are faced with boredom. As the saying goes, "Idle hands are the devil's playground." I don't see this ending well.

@deanreaver3268

8 жыл бұрын

But we must make the best of it.

The best way to do this is probably to first remove the top down economic levers that most governments are imposing which siphons more than the fair share of profit up to a rutheless Oligarchical class and either stop there or encourage laborers/the public to own more capital, particularly with automation equipment so that the efficiency/money it produces supports them.

@Maltcider

9 жыл бұрын

Well, that's fortunate then that it's not up to them, but the people, to take the power in Democracies.

@Maltcider

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Pure Democracy has been dead since Athens, but in the sense of Democratic Republics they're alive but seriously wounded.

@Maltcider

9 жыл бұрын

***** Oligarchs certainly have muddled definitions since the 19th century, the US could technically be described as a Democratic Republic but that aside, most of the people in the US have such a misunderstanding of the meaning it might right to discard them. Grass-roots Liquid Democracy is what is needed to protect Rights now, it represents the people through direct and representative power and makes Oligarchies impossible to sustain. What do you think?

@Maltcider

9 жыл бұрын

This is worst problem of corrupted governments, they either end in radical freedom or the rise of authoritarianism. For every decent dictator there are many despotic ones.As it is, the US is in very similar preconditions that Germany had which led to Hitlers rise to power. The societal benefits a Philosopher King could do, like in The Republic, is minuscule, and a temporary improvement lasting only 1 or 2 generations at best, compared to a system truly empowering individuals. The good political ideas have already been eloquently constructed, it's a matter of activism to get them implemented. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" Is there any particular way you would select a proper dictator? And what about ensuring a worse one doesn't replace him?

well they are very similar - but fedrico has been saying similar things for years - he was one of the earliest organizers of the zeitgeist movement - the subtitle - how to survive it - is equally important -and the zeitgeist movement has been saying what has to happen to avoid disaster - and that is a resorce based economy - have you seen zeitgeist moving forward yet - frederico advocates the ideas there