Robert Fripp's New Standard Tuning | Reverb Learn to Play

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In the early 1980s, Robert Fripp, a constant innovator, introduced New Standard Tuning. The strings from low to high are tuned CGDAEG. In this lesson, Joe demonstrates the tuning and how using it and other alternate tunings can introduce fresh ideas to your playing.
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  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan7 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is, Fripp almost never gets mentioned in lists of the greatest guitarists in rock. But really, along with Jimi, Fripp is one of the very few guitarists to actually extend the sound of the guitar, with his unique riffs and solos, rhythms, and tunings that allow him to plays things almost impossible to play on a regular tuned guitar. No wonder he requires band support from other brilliant technical musicians who can "keep up", like Bill Bruford.

  • @Muzikman127

    @Muzikman127

    6 жыл бұрын

    So what should I listen to by Fripp?

  • @troy8420

    @troy8420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guitar work on St. Elmo's Fire by Brian Eno

  • @gavinreid8351

    @gavinreid8351

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@Muzikman127 his work with Bowie, David Sylvian, King Crimson.

  • @umpygoodness2369

    @umpygoodness2369

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Muzikman127 FRlPP HAS C0VERED A L0T 0F GR0vND. (EX: he plays the crazy s0l0 0n B0WlE's "FASHl0N") (F0RGlVE my glltchlng APPLE keyb0ard!) MAYBE START WlTH 1973's LARKS T0NGvES lN ASPlC?

  • @BlueGrenadeTom

    @BlueGrenadeTom

    5 жыл бұрын

    PointyTailofSatan I reckon his most accessible work was with Bowie on Heroes and Scary Monsters.

  • @joejohnson273
    @joejohnson2734 жыл бұрын

    That tape machine on the left is stunned by his playing.

  • @nick3718

    @nick3718

    4 жыл бұрын

    lmao

  • @hamidahmed8076

    @hamidahmed8076

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha 🤣

  • @kamealex

    @kamealex

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dying here.

  • @JamesPCroad

    @JamesPCroad

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL moment of my month 😂

  • @damienhelmold6978

    @damienhelmold6978

    4 жыл бұрын

    This made me laugh out loud

  • @watts111
    @watts1117 жыл бұрын

    Tom Waits once said: "The problem with playing the same instrument all the time is, your hands always fly to the familiar chords." I was reminded of that here. Excellent video...

  • @Mr13wonderboy77

    @Mr13wonderboy77

    7 жыл бұрын

    He also said, "music is just a very interesting thing to be doing with the air". Love Tom Waits.

  • @watts111

    @watts111

    7 жыл бұрын

    DavidRavenMoon - so true! Keith Richards' famous '5-string guitar' is in non-standard tuning AND has no Low E string. And sounds Epic.

  • @crimsun7186

    @crimsun7186

    7 жыл бұрын

    "The problem with speaking the same language all the times is, your mind always fly to the familiar words" This argument doesn't make much sense.

  • @sabatino1977

    @sabatino1977

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tom Waits once said, "Grrr rrwaar rwwr brra graa geaa."

  • @billwesley

    @billwesley

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chords are like words, the same words can be put together in original or unoriginal ways, the problem is not being stuck on the same chords but rather on the same chord TRANSITIONS which is exactly what alternative turnings provide, an opportunity to explore alternative transitions once the chords are learned. There is no need to tune strings to 12 equal ether, open strings may be tuned to just intervals for example., pure fifths or fourths or thirds or minor thirds that can be moved to any fret, something a keyboard could not do in the same simple way.

  • @lessthanpinochet
    @lessthanpinochet4 жыл бұрын

    Robert Fripp might just be the most innovative guitarist of all time.

  • @modularcuriosity
    @modularcuriosity5 жыл бұрын

    The new standard, or "Crafty tuning" because it's what Fripp's League of Crafty Guitarist use, can be remembered as : Crafty Guitarists Don't Always Eat Good.

  • @Alex-vc2mg
    @Alex-vc2mg7 жыл бұрын

    "I can't really get into the mind of Robert Fripp,". I don't think mere mortals could even fathom what the Crimson One thinks.

  • @cwirk

    @cwirk

    7 жыл бұрын

    Don't misquote the man! He never said "can't" !

  • @lanatrzczka

    @lanatrzczka

    7 жыл бұрын

    lol "angled camera bullshit" so true

  • @deepundaground

    @deepundaground

    7 жыл бұрын

    Naah, my pet dog got ran over.

  • @steersman-zv2ng

    @steersman-zv2ng

    6 жыл бұрын

    ima man ... you're in the wrong tuning, careful you dont break a string.

  • @JohnFoxBass

    @JohnFoxBass

    6 жыл бұрын

    RIGHT, @Christopher Caldera! Use of quotes is reserved for when you are quoting someone, @Alex! He actually said: "I don't expect to necessarily get in the mind of Robert Fripp in this lesson, ..." Try listening again at kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yn6ok7h8nKrAlrQ.htmlm37s

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln12214 жыл бұрын

    I would think that perhaps part of the inspiration of Fripp's New Standard Tuning would be that violin family instruments, including violas and cellos, and mandolin family instruments, including mandolas and mando-cellos, are all tuned in fifths, so in classical music and traditional folk, that type of tuning is already used by many musicians, just not necessarily guitarists. Also, you get an extended range instrument, both on the top and the bottom, all while using a standard instrument.

  • @netenemy
    @netenemy7 жыл бұрын

    Crafty Guitarists Do Always Eat Good

  • @dhill05

    @dhill05

    7 жыл бұрын

    Cocky Guitarists Don't Always Excite Girls

  • @mandu9520

    @mandu9520

    7 жыл бұрын

    Crappy Guitarists Definitely Aren't Exceptionally Gifted

  • @freddymclain

    @freddymclain

    7 жыл бұрын

    total sabotage of the Every Ass Does Get Beaten Eventually tuning that we all know. I met Robert Fripp back in the 70's-very nice guy.

  • @ProtoShredanoid

    @ProtoShredanoid

    7 жыл бұрын

    HAHA I'm cracking up over the EADGBE!

  • @captainpiefox9133

    @captainpiefox9133

    7 жыл бұрын

    Crimson Guitarists Don't Always Expect Good

  • @vesper5609
    @vesper56097 жыл бұрын

    " A mind is like parachute.It doesn`t work if it is not open." - Frank Zappa.

  • @Foxglove963

    @Foxglove963

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vesper. Now if he had said the mind is like a shroom. But no, Zappa was a tobacco addict, that's all he ever knew.

  • @jpc_337

    @jpc_337

    6 жыл бұрын

    “Maybe I’m a rock.” - Frank Zappa

  • @alessioridolfo1132

    @alessioridolfo1132

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vesper Nice!

  • @glwavtech

    @glwavtech

    5 жыл бұрын

    Prof. Walter Kotschnig told Holyoke College students to keep their minds open-“but not so open that your brains fall out.”

  • @rgolten

    @rgolten

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Foxglove963 yes 'tobacco is my favourite vegetable' FZ

  • @ThoseSleepless
    @ThoseSleepless7 жыл бұрын

    seriously one of the best videos I've seen online in a while. This lesson is as inspiring as any new pedal or amp I could purchase.

  • @thomasr8185
    @thomasr81857 жыл бұрын

    Very happy to see this, Reverb. I'm beggining to get into different tunings and stuff, so I'm glad you showed this. Also, I love when Joe is in your videos, he's very good :)

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM7 жыл бұрын

    So cool! I am a big fan of Fripp and have been since the early 80's. I never knew how he got those note combos, I guess this explains it.

  • @honkyvanwildebeest8926
    @honkyvanwildebeest89264 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining and giving examples of how unusual this tuning sounds. I had never heard of Fripp until I heard David Sylvian's Gone to Earth. I have never heard such beautiful and unexpected playing. Thank you again for being one of the best at giving us a window into his style.

  • @daftdoggo7662
    @daftdoggo76627 жыл бұрын

    The Frippaccino

  • @TeiscoCurlee
    @TeiscoCurlee7 жыл бұрын

    I play mostly in a similar tuning, but I tune from a low F to a high E so 5ths all the way. Really cool!

  • @danopticon
    @danopticon7 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy you guys are creating videos relating to Robert Fripp, my favorite guitarist, and someone I could spend a lifetime trying to be half as good as!! Wildly influential, and I think criminally under-appreciated today. In a fair universe his name'd be on the tip of people's tongues right along with Hendrix. Please, please, please explore this man's work more!!! I will keep my eyes-and ears-glued, promise! 😍

  • @lordundhimself1310
    @lordundhimself13105 жыл бұрын

    Please do a Crimson-era John Wetton video! Why is there no love for one of the most vicious bassist of all time?!

  • @MarceloKatayama

    @MarceloKatayama

    Жыл бұрын

    John Wetton is my favourite bassist, so I agree! Such a thick and crunchy tone and amazingly aggressive style

  • @fisch723
    @fisch7236 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. I've been using this tuning on the Variax. Opens up so many new possibilities..

  • @dkaniewski5862
    @dkaniewski58627 жыл бұрын

    This was actually very informative, getting into theory. Nice job, Reverb!

  • @jonbongjovi1869

    @jonbongjovi1869

    2 жыл бұрын

    but he didn't tell us WHY it was created, or WHAT advantage it gave Fripp! To me that was the TOP question

  • @DamienTheCat
    @DamienTheCat7 жыл бұрын

    Will be meeting Fripp and seeing him perform at the Count Basie Theatre this July and I truly can't wait... what an incredible guitar player and even more fantastic composer... he is unmatched!

  • @thomaszonkowski2115
    @thomaszonkowski21157 жыл бұрын

    THE BEST VIDEO from Reverb so far

  • @sebastianschmidt8629

    @sebastianschmidt8629

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah!

  • @moose1689
    @moose16896 жыл бұрын

    Very inspiring! Just realized how versatile stuff Reverb uploads!

  • @mikoschannel6413
    @mikoschannel64133 жыл бұрын

    Just brilliant. Tuned my acoustic, just to try it, and straight away playing around the whole neck. Such a beautiful tuning. I think I now need to have one electric guitar just in that tuning.

  • @34672rr
    @34672rr5 жыл бұрын

    This one of the only one if not the only one of this series (and most musical instruction videos i have seen) i have learned anything of importance (for me and my music) from. I kind of already knew it, because i play bass and keys and use each other's shapes on each other, but I never really thought of tuning the bass differently than fourths in order to get even more shapes. He's completely right though, you go back to shapes you are comfortable with and while you may experiment, it's difficult to find new patterns that feel good if you are not forced to. Great way to be creative. I bought a bass recently to flip, but I think I might keep it and try tuning in fifths.

  • @dooleyfussle8634

    @dooleyfussle8634

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lots of bass players tune in fifths, fewer chords. You can use a B string to get that low C. You may have to adjust your relief some after it settles in.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern6344 жыл бұрын

    In order to tune in Fifths, C, G, D, A, E, B simply use Octave4Plus Fifths tuning strings and the High B String is a .006 string so for a High B stick to a .006 (or less) so that way you'll minimize tension.

  • @Ramble1234

    @Ramble1234

    3 жыл бұрын

    I tuned a ukulele to D A E B no problem

  • @stonerdemon
    @stonerdemon4 жыл бұрын

    04:17 That's some 2000's Radiohead in my ears. Nice!

  • @braziliantvhd2768
    @braziliantvhd27686 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I tried this tuning some years ago and string broke as soon as I started playing.

  • @KeEtMc93

    @KeEtMc93

    3 жыл бұрын

    You need the thinnest strings for it to not break.

  • @keithklassen5320

    @keithklassen5320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most people using this tuning use different string guages; thin ones get thinner, thick ones get thicker. As he says, it also needs a special setup.

  • @lex3729

    @lex3729

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fripp explained that, essentially, you just need to will it into tune, it won't break. 😉

  • @m.f.3347

    @m.f.3347

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fripp uses a 9 on the high string

  • @edgewatergearvault9881

    @edgewatergearvault9881

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same lol

  • @SterlingSimmons22
    @SterlingSimmons227 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this video! I've been needing this!

  • @rollingon5566
    @rollingon55664 жыл бұрын

    Being honest, I've recently tuned a guitar down to c standard and it's unlocked some insane amount of new playing possiblities, so I literally think doing something new in general will breed new ideas

  • @presterjack9764

    @presterjack9764

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lower tension on the strings and lower notes, this is a big part of how Black Sabbath's sound came to be. It's not a fancy tuning but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea

  • @fintanwardell
    @fintanwardell4 жыл бұрын

    ✔️ Thanks to Joe for thoughtfully sign-posting the improbable Mr. Fripp.

  • @BrettHoustonTube
    @BrettHoustonTube4 ай бұрын

    That was super cool. Thanks!

  • @Bramhallthefifth
    @Bramhallthefifth6 жыл бұрын

    I had thought he always used this... never knew he developed it as late as 1983. It sounds so natural to the way he always played.

  • @PecktheTownCrierVideos
    @PecktheTownCrierVideos6 жыл бұрын

    This is inspiring, thank you!

  • @DrRussPhd
    @DrRussPhd6 жыл бұрын

    Fripp/King Crimson have always been outside of the "box" . . which is why they are STILL not in the Corporate Profit Rock 'n Roll Hall of (record sales) Fame.

  • @Ottophil

    @Ottophil

    4 жыл бұрын

    DrRussPhd or they sold less records cause they suck

  • @limaxmaximus4762

    @limaxmaximus4762

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ottophil yeah dude, that's definitely true, good job.

  • @kitchenmaster43

    @kitchenmaster43

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hugh tube Robert fripp is one of the most arrogant and full of themselves musicians who ever lived

  • @88omair

    @88omair

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mr Fripp wasn't even aware there was a box to begin with

  • @shinji5217

    @shinji5217

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kitchenmaster43 and it works, so, who cares? I don't

  • @DjangoThunders
    @DjangoThunders3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video!

  • @theflowerpotify
    @theflowerpotify7 жыл бұрын

    I like these videos. Simple and great interaction and information. Would you make one talking about the guitar part for Book of Saturday? I just really wanna watch you go into it thats all.

  • @dr.weaklicksofcrashedcurse4535
    @dr.weaklicksofcrashedcurse45354 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your lesson, it does actually open one’s mind 😁 I am considering tuning one of my guitars in the NST way and trying to imitate Robert Fripp’s style, this is probably going to be a difficult journey 🤔

  • @mattbacon285
    @mattbacon2855 жыл бұрын

    Nice lesson, man!

  • @PurpleBulbous
    @PurpleBulbous7 жыл бұрын

    Fripp dreamed this tuning up because it was more logical. (all chords (normally) have fifths, so why not tune a guitar in fifths...) It was *not* done in order to take your same ole tired EADGBE licks and repurpose them. That's the opposite usage as intended! (mostly unmusical sounding since "random" outside notes are picked up) With this tuning... all normal chords, major and minor, including 7th chords are made easier, because longer fingers go to thicker strings and shorter fingers go to thinner strings. In normal tuning, many times the longer fingers have to pick up notes on closer strings, while the shorter fingers have to reach up for notes on further strings... Take out some graph paper and draw some chord forms.... you'll soon see that forming chords is suddenly 100 times easier. Even if you can't finger a Maj, Min, Maj7, Min7, and Dom 7 chord with ease in standard tuning, you'll be able to play all of these chord types from ANY root note within a week!

  • @ZkaLy6

    @ZkaLy6

    6 жыл бұрын

    PurpleBulbous Hmmm. I think is more likely He learned... From the teachings of Gurdieff.

  • @RaymondPeckIII

    @RaymondPeckIII

    5 жыл бұрын

    More importantly, scales lay out in pairs of 4-note patterns and are uniform across the bottom 4 strings. Scale playing is about 12,000 times more logical in NST.

  • @juliangonzalez2953

    @juliangonzalez2953

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said he wasn't going yo get into Fripp's mind tho

  • @juliangonzalez2953

    @juliangonzalez2953

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said he wasn't going yo get into Fripp's mind tho

  • @andsalomoni

    @andsalomoni

    5 жыл бұрын

    The NST is not more logical for the guitar. A fifths tuning is perfectly logical for short scale melodic instruments like the violin and the viola, but it is uncomfortable and hindering for a counterpoint instrument like the guitar. It makes difficult to play what is simple, so I would never call it "standard".

  • @Filpiovano
    @Filpiovano7 жыл бұрын

    Great Video!

  • @M_B_J
    @M_B_J4 жыл бұрын

    When i heard mid-70s King Crimson about 25 years ago as a teenager it blew my mind. Changed my idea of what rock music could be. Fripp is one of the greats.

  • @bobgreen623
    @bobgreen6235 жыл бұрын

    Excellent sounding guitar Joe

  • @SuperGorak
    @SuperGorak6 жыл бұрын

    great insight and ideas!

  • @danielmckay6000
    @danielmckay60006 жыл бұрын

    Terrific video, thanks!!!

  • @tylermorgan5924
    @tylermorgan59244 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! Gonna have to try this out

  • @phogue1
    @phogue17 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @damiensmith371
    @damiensmith3717 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Guys, great one!

  • @blacklotus3205
    @blacklotus32054 жыл бұрын

    Try playing message in a bottle by the police with this tuning it’s way easier

  • @offmymeds2994

    @offmymeds2994

    4 жыл бұрын

    If I have to pee at night, I dont get up, I just a have a 2liter bottle next to my bed.

  • @kdakan

    @kdakan

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's easy to play using drop D tuning.

  • @kdakan
    @kdakan3 жыл бұрын

    Violin, viola, and mandolin are tuned in 5ths, but they have a very short scale length. This tuning can be usable when playing chords, or melodies with large jump intervals, but not scales or linear lines. You can play scales on the higher fret positions, but in lower frets you have to stretch your fingers wide to reach all the notes in the scale.

  • @ericmalone3213
    @ericmalone32137 жыл бұрын

    The New Standard Tuning was designed for ensemble playing, with particular attention to the hocket. I'd love to see this tuning find its way out of Crafty Guitarist circles and find an application in the sort of dance music that Jojo Mayer had been doing. I would love to hear the guitarists in Deerhoof adopt this tuning and have at it. &c &c. Thank you Reverb. Thank you Joe.

  • @CasualT840

    @CasualT840

    6 жыл бұрын

    Eric Malone Haunted Shores

  • @jonbongjovi1869

    @jonbongjovi1869

    2 жыл бұрын

    have you seen the videos of aussie band KING GIZZARD and the LIZARD WIZARD..... from their album with MICROTONAL guitars on it? Check it out. WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF NST? What does it do that Fripp prefers, that regular tuning can't do?

  • @ericmalone3213

    @ericmalone3213

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonbongjovi1869 Yes, I know King Gizzard's microtonal stuff. Mr Fripp's New Standard Tuning extends the range of the guitar, with E going down to C; A going down to G; D staying the same; G going up to A; B going up to E; and E going up to G. "What does it do that Fripp prefers, that regular tuning can't do?" Listen to The League of Crafty Guitarists. CHEERS

  • @jonbongjovi1869

    @jonbongjovi1869

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericmalone3213 Oh. When I got my first guitar at 17, the FIRST thing I did was change the standard tuning, so my highest note was HIGHER than other guitars and the low was LOWER than other guitars, cuz i hated the REDUNDANCY on a 6 string guitar. (If i could, all my electric guitars would be 4 strings, but they cover the same low-to-high notes of regular 6 strings. You don't need all that waste in there! My electronic uke is my fave! FOUR STRINGS. Keep it super simple! ) (My low note ["E" string] was 5 notes / frets LOWER than Drop D, so whatever that is!) I gather NST also goes lower and higher than other 6 strings in normal tuning, from what you say. (I refuse to learn the letters of the strings.) I saw the League of CG with Fripp in the 1980s (or was it 1990s?) and it was pretty stunning if you're in the same room....but i never noticed any pitches or such that seemed unusually low or high. Of course, Fripp COULD just have more frets put on the higher strings! EX: Michael Angelo Batis (sp?) has a guitar with like 28 frets (!) and Uli Jon Roth has one around that many, too. DOESN'T NST WARP & TWIST THE NECK? ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADVANTAGES FOR FRIPP or other guitarists? (I get that cellists and others should use NST for the same shapes they already know....)

  • @jonbongjovi1869

    @jonbongjovi1869

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericmalone3213 HA: musicians who know Ovation guitars.......get their minds blown when they see my main axe: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZOq2rOIeJObYbg.html 2 BIGGEST LESSON I learned accidentally, that we should tell all guitarists: 1) GO 3/4 guitar! Easier to play! Lighter. More Fun. Etc! Takes up less room, etc! (Unless ya have really big hands.) I think that's one reason Chris Squire is my fave bassist ever: BIG DUDE, so that Rickenbacke bass was a toy in his hands! Thank goodness 3/4 guitars are all over the place now and even in most Guitar Centers. SMARTEST decision of my entire life, other than... 2) PRACTICING every day OUTDOORS was smarter than all other decisions I will ever make....COMBINED, holy smokes. (EX: I got paid the FIRST day I owned a drumkit and started practicing in a home depot lot, with my Ludwig JR kit! Funny and small. Sounds great! Neil Peart and Buddy Rich didn't get paid their first day! or their 500th day! I get paid EVERY DAY to practice! And pretty girls all yell out that they love me!) AND my profit margin is 100% - 200%, while U2 and Metallica's profit margin is like 4%! THEY HAVE TO TOUR (which is insanely inefficient)...cuz they ONLY PREACH TO THE CONVERTED. (OOOF!) I play to every human with eyes and ears! (My audience is 99% BIGGER than all the biggest pop and rock acts....COMBINED! every child of every race hears and sees my avant instrumental stunts! every uptight banker hears it! every person who doesn't know much music hears MY music!) I never run out of paying customers! Plus, they pay me $20 for 1 MINUTE of music (!!) as they're passing by! Not bad!! No one ever paid Led Zep MORE than the ticket price! But most of my tips are over the price of passing by! ($1 is The Normal Tip. Most of my tips are more than that! I get $50s and $100s pretty frequently too!!) PLAY OUTDOORS PLAY OUTDOORS PLAY OUTDOORS! Plus it makes everyone smile! I make strangers DANCE every day, walking down sidewalks in public. It's magical! I control their bodies and minds!! When couples walk by and the gal starts dancing to my loopstorms, I want to say to the dude "Ha! I just MIND-CONTROLLED YOUR GF'S BODY!! SHE IS FEELING ME INSIDE HER RIGHT NOW!"

  • @sp00g37
    @sp00g374 жыл бұрын

    love the idea. i change tuning and time signature all the time just to make new ideas. even if its simple, being a different thing is a major difference

  • @whitorblius
    @whitorblius7 жыл бұрын

    Definitely gonna try this out!

  • @soundscapes2300
    @soundscapes23004 жыл бұрын

    Ahhahaha. I got excited and paused the vid and grabbed my guitar and thru it in new standard because I've done it once ahahha but must have lucked out coz I def snapped my high E tuning it up to that G. So I unpause it and first thing he says is "do not just go grab your guitar and throw it in New Standard" . Great video man, you couldn't have said it better I def was curious about it after the first time I played in NS and it just worked out and made sense and great riffs. 😃

  • @offdutyjie
    @offdutyjie7 жыл бұрын

    Strangely enough, reminds me of Josh Homme for some strange reason lol! Maybe because hes a lot in the C standard tuning and is dwelling a lot in the beautiful desert with his sound lol!

  • @MisterJawaman

    @MisterJawaman

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's the Lydian tonality he mentioned in the video, Homme does that as well a lot of the time while soloing.

  • @XxKOPER13xX

    @XxKOPER13xX

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jie Lee I was thinking the same thing.

  • @guymann3711

    @guymann3711

    7 жыл бұрын

    as a fan of both i can see some overlap how they are creating a sinister yet beautiful sound.....

  • @catbutler1343
    @catbutler13437 жыл бұрын

    As a tenor guitar player (in both CGDA and GDAE) I love this tuning for the six string (or twelve really--why be limited?). I tuned an old SG 6 string to this on my own I had a while back--didn't realize Robert Fripp tuned this way.

  • @traildoggy
    @traildoggy6 жыл бұрын

    1 - My Mandofingers love this! 2 - I have been thinking of converting a 12 string to a 10 string 'cittern' which would be tuned CGDAE in unison pairs. Essentially the bottom 4 strings are a Mandocello and the top 4 are an Octave Mandolin. This is the same, but with the high G added. If you look around here you'll find videos of some 12 strings converted to this 10 string setup.

  • @dooleyfussle8634

    @dooleyfussle8634

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just make sure the neck on the 12 is really well braced. I caved mine across the top of the sound hole and sheared off the neck block when I tried to convert mine to a bass mando cello guitar with 6 double courses.

  • @michaelmattson3515
    @michaelmattson35154 жыл бұрын

    Cool , gonna give it a try. Thanks

  • @davidsommerville2213
    @davidsommerville22134 жыл бұрын

    For most of us, it’s just a matter of rewiring our brains’ expectations of pitches via hand shapes. The player in this video seems to totally get it. Well done and thoughtful.

  • @n2space4u
    @n2space4u7 жыл бұрын

    thanks for posting

  • @OneGuitarist
    @OneGuitarist5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I first heard this in the 90s when he released his CD. Certainly unique, although I don't love all the music I've heard created with this. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because it does make you think and try different ways to create things. Definitely worth check out, in my opinion.

  • @andsalomoni

    @andsalomoni

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is worth to check out, but when you get used to it, also the New Standard Tuning becomes a habit, with all the bad consequences of any habit (repetitivness, mechanicity, etc.). You can think and create different things with the normal tuning too, it is a matter of awareness and musical ideas, not of tunings.

  • @presterjack9764
    @presterjack97642 жыл бұрын

    For me the benefit of fifths tuning is a regular tuning with easy chord voicings. I prefer all-fifths, and compared to NST, I would even prefer removing the high G string and only playing with 5 strings in fifths. I'm a big fan of Fripp and the NST idea was a big inspiration for me to try the fifths tuning. I also play very short-scale guitars that have just become more common in the last couple years, which is great for all fifths

  • @georgedeshurley2429
    @georgedeshurley24296 жыл бұрын

    This is so cool!!!

  • @-k-b-
    @-k-b-3 жыл бұрын

    I play in this tuning but a step down (so A#,F,C,G,D,F). I'll put a capo on if I want a higher low note but man it's such a fun tuning! Oxbow plays in a similar tuning (C,G,D,A,B,E) that's also lots of fun to play in.

  • @calebblack1420
    @calebblack14204 жыл бұрын

    thank you for that warning about trying to tune your guitar this way. I got my E string all the way to D before I was wondering how much more she could take lol, thought it was about to snap.

  • @StephenAndrew777
    @StephenAndrew7777 жыл бұрын

    The best songs I've written were on a left-handed guitar and I'm right-handed, so I totally get this. Very interesting.

  • @walshy2116
    @walshy21166 жыл бұрын

    Very cool man.

  • @nneth49
    @nneth497 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! Fretless bass/keyboard player here.

  • @tombarnes7846
    @tombarnes78467 жыл бұрын

    Ace. Those scales just burst in Crimso colors with shades reminiscent from the ECM label in the 70's & 80's. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @SterlingSimmons22
    @SterlingSimmons227 жыл бұрын

    What's the link to the blog?

  • @mrwisbet
    @mrwisbet4 жыл бұрын

    The similarities in shape with some of Joni Mitchell's later and unique tunings, like Edith and the Kingpin, are interesting.

  • @wonderpope
    @wonderpope7 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some of the QOTSA stuff...when he plays the pentatonics.

  • @wonderpope

    @wonderpope

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry...I mean QOTSA...it was a typo...I edited it.

  • @profd65

    @profd65

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Wadsmitter I don't think Josh Homme took anything from King Crimson.

  • @joshstiehl1170

    @joshstiehl1170

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@profd65 yeah, if he did his music would sound a lot better

  • @profd65

    @profd65

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joshstiehl1170 Or at least a lot more pretentious.

  • @joshstiehl1170

    @joshstiehl1170

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@profd65 Touché

  • @cmasc3450
    @cmasc34504 жыл бұрын

    The scales sound like Majoras Maks songs in that tuning.

  • @PorFerLuis
    @PorFerLuis7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joe, Where can I find the blog you talk about at the beginning of the video? I want to try this on my PRS SC245 but you said that the guitar should be set up first. Thanks.

  • @masonharris9166

    @masonharris9166

    7 жыл бұрын

    I would suggest somthing between .99 and .00000001 Your welcome in advance

  • @RME76048
    @RME760485 жыл бұрын

    Fun too, on standard tuning, to pick a chord, say, any major chord, then play all the first inversions of it that your fingers can manage to semi-comfortably 'twister' on the neck, then the second inversion. Then find which open strings 'drone' well with it. Nothing like Fripp's NST, but fun and ear-opening just the same.

  • @crimsun7186
    @crimsun71867 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting to note that the string gauge that is recommended for NST is a set of 011s. Also, the original version of NST was an all fifths tuning, but Fripp had problems getting strings that could do the high B required by the tuning, so he ended up with the last two strings (from low to high) being a minor third apart instead. The tuning Frank Gambale developed recently seems more rational and can be picked up very fast.

  • @bveracka
    @bveracka5 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a fanned fret guitar would work well for this tuning because of the bigger difference in string tension than standard EADGBE. It's (probably) a similar amount of tension across the board, but each string has been changed considerably, especially the highest and lowest strings. A high E _and_ G is pretty tight!

  • @SuburbanBehemoth
    @SuburbanBehemoth7 жыл бұрын

    You can always get your strings from a company like Kalium Strings, who can choose the proper gauge string for your scale length and tuning.

  • @swagnostic132

    @swagnostic132

    7 жыл бұрын

    Suburban Behemoth only thing is that its very much up to the player to discern what feels best rather than just looking up a chart and hoping it feels okay haha

  • @zebdoz333
    @zebdoz3334 жыл бұрын

    Interesting for sure

  • @DiscGolfAlej
    @DiscGolfAlej5 жыл бұрын

    I learned on a guitar missing the D string and i tuned it to CG CEG. It help me learn super fast

  • @RUFFLEEmusic
    @RUFFLEEmusic7 жыл бұрын

    A more sensible approach with string tension that I've seen is the OTHER Fourths Tuning ( FCGDAE ) that Tom Quale uses - in theory, "low extended violin." The win with either of these is that a scalar shape doesn't change, no matter where you play the root. Therefore, once you learn a pattern, you can start it on any string without relearning fingering.

  • @offmymeds2994
    @offmymeds29944 жыл бұрын

    I tuned a guitar like this after 8 mins of practicing, I could breathe underwater.

  • @theelysium
    @theelysium7 жыл бұрын

    ✌️🎶💕✌ another video on how to setup & pick strings, please!

  • @artgonewrong

    @artgonewrong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes...what blog and where?

  • @Jar3D226

    @Jar3D226

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think Ernie ball slinky top heavy bottoms will work, you can go onto the new standard tuning Wikipedia page and see the string gauge for them.

  • @adamsrober
    @adamsrober7 жыл бұрын

    Just curious, what is the signal chain? Tone is awesome!!! Are the pickups on the LP aftermarket?

  • @samlee2562
    @samlee25627 жыл бұрын

    Nashville tuning gives a nice fresh sound with familiar shapes if you've got a spare guitar and some old strings lying about

  • @jbasti227

    @jbasti227

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sam Lee What are the strings tuned to?

  • @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer

    @oldtimetinfoilhatwearer

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Joseph Bastidas g o o g l e

  • @rickm1255

    @rickm1255

    6 жыл бұрын

    I gotta write that down

  • @gplito

    @gplito

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Where is the O note?...I got the E and the G is easy enough, but a bit confused about that L note as well.

  • @ianstewart8243

    @ianstewart8243

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gplito o = open string

  • @pjwolos
    @pjwolos6 жыл бұрын

    What would be the logical way to extend this tuning down two more string? I play an eight string. Also, what fuzz do you utilize for a little bit? Thanks. Very informative vid. Impressed.

  • @wildbillhackett
    @wildbillhackett7 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I found a tuning used by Agustin Barrios (I don't know if he invented or not) that's almost become standard for me. I find it very easy to write new songs in. You simply tune both the 5th and 6th strings down a whole step: DGDGBE

  • @tevbuff

    @tevbuff

    6 жыл бұрын

    What are the advantages of this tuning?

  • @jscurley
    @jscurley7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @steersman-zv2ng
    @steersman-zv2ng6 жыл бұрын

    Wow that tuning makes the notes really Ring.

  • @maxmillington8363
    @maxmillington83637 жыл бұрын

    Very cool to see this featured here

  • @mnbv990
    @mnbv9906 жыл бұрын

    The man is a genius.

  • @ross8842
    @ross88427 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned a blog that would detail what gauge strings to use and such. Can you post a link?

  • @mavmedia3365
    @mavmedia33656 жыл бұрын

    Very thought-provoking video, Joe. Can you tell me what are you are using for that sweet spacey sound? Sounds like SoundToys Crystalizer plug-in. Is it a pedal??? Thanks.

  • @Pipboy-qn4sj
    @Pipboy-qn4sj3 жыл бұрын

    serious question I love Fripp and this video I have watched for years but I never asked, what is that beautiful Studio Les Paul? did you customize it with those humbuckers ? it looks amazing

  • @misterroberts4240
    @misterroberts42404 жыл бұрын

    i once tuned my tele to 5ths, very interesting sound for sure

  • @jlocesariq
    @jlocesariq5 жыл бұрын

    For people looking for more information about this, about Fripp and more related music, you can check the documental Careful With That Axe, which you can find also here in KZread.

  • @Sasketchejuana_man
    @Sasketchejuana_man5 жыл бұрын

    alot of chords shapes in standard sound really cool in open C too, but I never thought about transcribing those new chords i find into standard tuning, thats a great idea. in actuality regular standard tuning isnt all that practical. the intervals are so far apart its hard to create chords like you would on say a piano. in Open tuning the voicings are much more like a piano.

  • @leopardave
    @leopardave7 жыл бұрын

    @Reverb.com what amp were you plugged in? nice tone!

  • @jyryhalonen4990
    @jyryhalonen49907 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be better if it's used to get away from boxed playing and use your ear. Like you can't use what you are used to so you have to use your ears to figure out what sounds good. Rather than playing your old shapes and just have them sound different.

  • @lukacapeta222

    @lukacapeta222

    5 жыл бұрын

    Takes a lot of strenght but, yes :)

  • @sgtpepper6379

    @sgtpepper6379

    4 жыл бұрын

    But using the same shapes is the whole point. If you're going to try and play the same notes, why even bother changing the tuning?

  • @EastmanD
    @EastmanD6 жыл бұрын

    Odd I just saw a Tony Levin video where he talked about his Chapman stick and how he tuned it in fifths...isn't that what Fripp's done here ? Also I remember Adrian Belew saying how at first Crimson's music was difficult and how he had to "work it out" before he had it (sounded laborious) but then he finally saw that Fripp "did everything in fifths " and it was no problem after that and laughed. Am I remembering that correctly ?

  • @nicholasrella2767

    @nicholasrella2767

    6 жыл бұрын

    Eastman D i believe the chapman stick is tuned in 4ths if I’m not mistaken.

  • @EastmanD

    @EastmanD

    6 жыл бұрын

    I did look back at the Levin video and he said his Chapman stick was 12 string (most have 10) and the bass strings were tuned in fifths. The rest are guitar strings and are probably tuned in fourths like regular guitar tuning. Thanks for the nudge...should have done that in the first place. I thought I was onto something....

  • @MusicManxxxxx

    @MusicManxxxxx

    6 жыл бұрын

    MusicManxxxxx 1 It's both. In fact you can tune it how you like but in the 80s the Stick was generally shipped with 5th on the bass side and 4ths on the treble side.

  • @GregJonson
    @GregJonson4 жыл бұрын

    If we wanted to maintain the fifths thing all the way without worrying about popping the highest string, we could do FCGDAE. That would maintain the range of a regular tuning while also getting into the 8 string register.

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