WooHoo!! I was the 100th like! Awesome addition to amazing high quality guns

Timberline is looking great! Love the guns.

Great videos Rob, thank you

Timberline looks really good! Have you thinking in making it in double roller system? ;)

Love this dude! I have two 1200 Tuna rail guns and am amazed by them. Will definitely put a Timber on my Xmas list

Nice video - thanks for sharing. Just read some of the comments. IMHO and using so many different spearguns over the years I always come back to RA. Main reason probably being I trust the gear. And as said so many times also by Chris Coates, I keep all RA and just change the length of barrel as needed (range, vis, etc) - making it very smooth to transition between guns. It is interesting to read sometimes comments of technical nature, that let assume the writer of those comments must be very experienced AND has done himself a lot of test to be able to speak so confidently about it, For my part I believe in constantly learning to become a better/safer hunter. If I gain a mm more or a gram less etc is probably not the highest priority IMO. Keep it up RA. Love what you do and how much you share... (I'm not being sponsored in any way!) :)

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your positive remarks.

Great to see this. What's the shortest timber lined gun you will be producing?

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

So far a 70 cm.

@markoriordan101

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing Perfect! Exactly what I'm looking for. Have you a time for availability?

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@markoriordan101 there's a few made and ready for set up.

@markoriordan101

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing That's great to hear! Thank you for your work and I hope to be able to try them out here in Ireland

@MichaelEngel

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing Good size for Denmark as well. Hope the spear on a short gun is ~6.5 mm. for speed.

looking forward to get my hands on this piece of art.. The fact that it will be equal to all my other RA guns is mind blowing.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive comment.

Great looking gun Rob is there a chance you can put a anchor between the two so you have varying power points?? Also r you looking @ on yr roller muzzle having a kicker band so you can have best of both worlds???

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

It is possible to fit a third hook, no one before you had asked. Re a kicker band, on the standard rollers it over powers the spear. We'd rather make a double roller for this Timberline.

@granthall2325

2 жыл бұрын

Thx so much for the reply!! 😁😁Look forward to see yr plan for the double roller👍👍

@andrewshugg7187

2 жыл бұрын

Would definitely like to see an additional anchor point!

@drewsxb

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing we would LOVE to see a double roller direct from Rob Allen. Your single rollers are amazing. If you guys bring out a double roller with the timberline series…. I am 100% buying one 🤙

@drewsxb

2 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Liechti I actually have one of his guns with the double roller! It is amazing. Now I want a slightly bigger one with the timberline series!!

Really great looking roller spearguns. Will they come with 14 mm bands and 7 mm spears? And do you know when I will be able to get my hands on one from a European distributor? (VAT, tax and shipping is crazy expensive when ordering from outside of Europe).

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

No problem with that set up, where are you in Europe?

@KristianSloth

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing Denmark but I usually order from a german webshop.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@KristianSloth You will then have to push them to order for you.

@KristianSloth

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing I will try to push them. Last I asked them when they would get a RA bait ball shoal flasher they said maybe in June :)

These are lovely but when are you going to update your handle to a reverse trigger mech? My Pathos 82 has more band pull than my RA 90 and is shorter than my RA 70, effectively rendering both of my RA guns utterly obsolete - I haven’t used either in 5+ years. Would be nice to see a bit of innovation on this side. More important for short guns, I know but I think you’re pretty much the only manufacturer still using what is a very outdated mech style.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

I am of the opinion the reverse makes no difference when you consider some facts. Why do you need more power when you can already overpower the gun just by shortening the rubbers? Overpowering a gun will make it inaccurate. We have done many pool tests showing this. Also, many battle to pull the bands that far back as the further back you need to pull the bands, the more difficult it is. To compensate, many will then fit longer bands to enable them to load all the way back, defeating the object of the reverse mechanism in the first place.

@mdoc140

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing agree 100%. That last few cm on a rear mech makes it a total pain to load.

@BR0SE1DON

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing those are not valid points at all. I’m not trying to overpower a gun, I don’t want hard to load, over tight bands. That’s the last thing I want. A reverse trigger shortens the gun by a good 12cm, it’s as simple as that. Why would I use an RA 90 when I can have an equivalent gun (band stretch) that is smaller than an RA 70? In environments where small guns are essential, this is really important. There’s a reason that no-one I know uses RA guns any more, they are just not suited to the local, low vis conditions, other manufacturers produce products that are better for our environment. I appreciate that small guns are probably not your primary concern as a business and that the re-tooling and costs to update your range to reverse mechs would be very costly but don’t pretend that the outdated mech layout you use is superior, it’s a purely financial decision. I can’t think of any other premium manufacturers that use the ‘old’ trigger layout any more. It’s outdated. Generally when people protest that ‘everyone one else is wrong, I’m right’, they’re generally wrong. Don’t get me wrong, I’m actually a real fan of the company and it’s products but the reverse mech omission is a real let down for me and makes the guns non-viable for my needs, which is a shame.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@BR0SE1DON Why are the points not valid? The majority of new and or young divers will have difficulty loading a reverse mechanism gun correctly set up. We prefer to manufacture gear that is suited for the majority. I don’t get your point with the 70cm reverse trigger being the same an RA 90? There are so many variables from one gun to another, spear size, band lengths and types, barrel buoyancy etc. I do understand you will make the gun a little shorter by moving the spear back a little. I’d see this being an advantage with a longer gun that is harder to swing/maneuver. 12cm shorter will reduce the drag but, at the same time reduce range. If the barrel was not shortened but the spear was made longer, the range would increase slightly. I do agree our guns were not as suitable in low vis conditions when compared to other brands. This is why we brought out this Timberline roller, in the short lengths we can make it strong and buoyant. Please don’t jump to the conclusion that we are not changing to a reverse mechanism because of financial reasons. You obviously have no idea how much R+D we put into new products. We would have done this in a heartbeat if we saw sufficient merit to do so. On a side note, what is your thoughts on the small ID bands “all premium manufacturers” are pushing?

@MakaalaSunn

2 жыл бұрын

Aloha guys. Reading these comments I'd like to share my experience. I bought a carbon RA 110 and that was my go to gun for a couple years. Then I bought a reverse mech from MVD and changed it. Long story short, I sold that gun and bought another RA. I learned the hard way that a reverse Mech is not better. I just shorten the bands. Also Small ID bands are great but expensive. Cheers from Hawaii🤙🏼🤙🏼

I have Inquiry about athe muzzel waight . Is it can be used with 120 aluminum barrel to reduce recoil ? If yes what is the recommended waight? Regards

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

Not a good idea as it will make the muzzle too heavy.

@yussefalmowel7276

2 жыл бұрын

How many grams needed for carbon 120 with roller head ??

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@yussefalmowel7276 We don't fit weight in the roller muzzles as the roller muzzle already has enough weight.

Do you plan making a real wood spear gun? Complete, with wood handle and muzzle, including an inox trigger?

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

No plans at the moment.

Hey rob. Got my timberline today, my reel hits the rear hook and therefore doesnt sit snug on the seat! Is there a different reel that can be used?

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

What reel are you fitting?

@andrewshugg7187

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing one of your 50m reels

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshugg7187 Ok, just checked our batch and it is a little tight. We have already moved the hook a little forward. Short term, try loosen the handle and pull it back a little, that will give you the clearance. Sorry for the hassle.

@andrewshugg7187

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobAllenSpearfishing i ended up having to cut a groove in my reel to slot the hook into. Its about 5mm too close.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshugg7187 Sorry about that but that is a good fix, well done. On a side note, these Timberline guns are specifically balanced for a reel or without. If it was set up without, the gun might feel a little heavier. There is lead in the grip of the handle you could trim if needed.

Здравствуйте, Ваша продукция очень качественная, но, к сожалению, напрямую заказать в Российскую Федерацию очень пооблематично.

@RobAllenSpearfishing

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you are correct but we do have a distributor there. К сожалению, вы правы, но у нас есть дистрибьютор.