MotorWeek's road test review of the 2012 Volvo S60 T6 R-Design.
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Пікірлер: 75
@wheelie6424 жыл бұрын
I just got mine 2020. 86K miles. I appreciate the car. I don't race on the track with it. So, the review is dead on correct. Its a great street car and very capable and fun to drive. I love my S60
@patrickmadden6340
4 жыл бұрын
The jukebox except this is an actual 6 cylinder engine not that 4 banger you got
@wheelie642
4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Madden Me? I have a T6 turbo. What r u smoking?
@patrickmadden6340
4 жыл бұрын
The jukebox weed just weed but you don’t even know what’s under your hood. Volvo only makes 4 bangers now
@AdrianC1234512 жыл бұрын
FYI, Volvo has done a few upgrades to the R-Design for the 2013 model year, a few of the biggest upgrades are the switch from a IV generation Haldex AWD to a lighter and more advanced V generation Haledex AWD so those 0-60 numbers should be lower AND a slight re-tune of the gear ratios. Not to mention Volvo addressed complaints about the brakes and the front rotors have gone from 12.4 inches to 13.2 inches to make cooling more effective and better wear.
@gordonmccracken120910 жыл бұрын
I'm a Volvo fan but Volvo was STUPID not to put Brembo brakes standard on the R-Design
@C70drvr12 жыл бұрын
I was at a large corporate function a few weeks ago, and I couldn't even begin to count how many black S4 sedans there were scattered around the parking lot. They must be standard issue. I'll take the bright red Volvo.
@brucec439 жыл бұрын
Around town it has so much torque you barely touch the throttle. And awd's most fun attribute is that you can floor it in turns and not have to worry about oversteer or torque steer. It just goes.
@benjaminsmith22874 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't care how it does on the track. John says that in real life on regular streets, it delivers. I don't really care how it compares to BMW and Audi either. It has a different feel and personality and I like it because it is not German feeling. I don't even need the R version. I'd take the softer-riding regular model but with the fastest engine in it. I like this car.
@PatrickRob82
Жыл бұрын
I've had a 2012 s60 t5 for almost 5 years now, and it's never let me down. The interior looks almost exactly the same and is VERY comfortable. Mine, unfortunately, is only FWD, but the turbo 5 cylinder is still a capable engine. 0-60 in around 6.3 seconds, which is not crazy fast but still peppy enough. I'd definitely recommend getting one, but I'd aim for the AWD version.
@ganuv4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how they were able to reach 5.2 0-60 i I tested my 2013 s60 r design and was able to hit 4.8 over and over again.
@topgeartim
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you're trying to say you got faster than them, or if it was a typo and that you got 5.8s. 4.8s seems insanely fast.
@taurussho86
2 жыл бұрын
@@topgeartim he's correct. Most folks get around 4.8s. Another post mentioned the 2013 model received a version 5 Haldex awd system. I have a 2012 with version 4. Gear ratios are slightly different on the 13. I'm planning on getting the Polestar tune this spring. Makes it even with the R-design as the difference was only a software update. Going from 300 to 325hp / 325 to 354 torque
@jackpez
2 жыл бұрын
I keep only getting 5.4 or higher with my 2013 :(((
@ar12.
3 ай бұрын
@@jackpezI still gotta test my 2011 one but 5.4 isn’t bad as I remember pd drive in Australia could only manage a 5.7 0-100 km/h time.
@brucec439 жыл бұрын
It's a tank, but smaller than you'd think for the weight and class. Heavy discounting makes them even more price competitive, just be prepared for sharp depreciation.
@CaptainSeamus11 жыл бұрын
So, basically if they would bring back the better adjustable suspension and the better brembo brakes from the 2004-2007 R it would do better... and what about the manual while we're at it? Or, even better, just put the Polestar out with it's manual and brakes... in quantity, it will drop that price down a bit...
@brucec4311 жыл бұрын
"unlike rivals, no true manual is available". True, but given the 5% take rate on those with other brands, it's hardly a big factor for 95% of drivers.
@patrickmichael33848 ай бұрын
I think I like this design of the S60 best. The Polestar is my FAV s60 model.
@Nuttty8 жыл бұрын
there is a reason they call it R-design and not R cause the true R series volvos would destroy the new volvos on track i had a 2004 S60 R and that car would destroy corners and the brakes could make your face hurt they stopped so good
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Nuttty wrong ! The R design is way better !
@benjaminsmith2287
4 жыл бұрын
The true R model also would rattle your fillings on bad roads. The true R was great but the ride quality was hard to deal with in advanced mode and still had too many jolts in sport mode. Comfort was OK but never settled enough. The R design is a good compromise between comfort and sport.
@AdrianC1234512 жыл бұрын
Why are there people bitching about the price? Go and see how much more expensive the Audi S4 is than this, or better yet, go and see how a base 335i is more expensive than an S60 R-Design with options! The seats are more comfortable, the ride is nicer, the interior is just as good as the others and let's not forget that Audi has horrible reliability, BMW is merely average and Mercedes is still behind Volv
@ajeeb30212 жыл бұрын
I lovd volvo, deep respect forf this company
@GLA45Amg7168 жыл бұрын
How fast would it be with a polestar chip ??
@ganuv
3 жыл бұрын
The R design already comes with a polestar software from factory, but it’s definitely faster with the TDI tuning box!
@sncnutrition7118
2 жыл бұрын
@@ganuv I added a cold air intake , tdi tune and exhaust. Dynoed at 400 hp 435 tourque. 0-60 at 4.3 seconds.
@chicoloco34112 жыл бұрын
More S60's were sold in March than A4's and Volvo is the fastest growing luxury car company in the world. ;)
@brucec4311 жыл бұрын
Uh, aren't those 19" wheels, not 18"?
@JCN20004 жыл бұрын
This or an Audi s4? I’m assuming this is more reliable.
@CirocObama.94
4 жыл бұрын
Being a previous owner okay yes for I can tell you for a fact that it is mine caught on fire
@M67v
2 жыл бұрын
S60. More reliable, less expensive (including maintenance). Imo it’s better looking, more personality, more unique, but just as many features. It’s not as quick tho; that Audi is a monster in that regard.
@epcotte12 жыл бұрын
No manual. That's a killer for a would-be sports car.
@SwagKing199612 жыл бұрын
please do a c30 review... 2012 preferably
@atlzero93312 жыл бұрын
Volvo S60 outperformed all the Germans in the IIHS Small Overlap Crash test - Mercedes C-Class was just pitiful! The 2013 S60 R-Design has upgraded brakes.
@stormlv11 жыл бұрын
Having driven both and currently owning the S60, I can tell you that you're definitely wrong on that one...
@demonhellcat12 жыл бұрын
This is a good review as are all the Motorweek videos but my God, is the writing that over the top and cheesy on purpose? I know all their videos are like that.
@76carmel12 жыл бұрын
In Volvo's past, they were nothing more than cars and wagons that were safety conscious. The R-design puts it in the performance, but it's no Mercedes AMG or BMW M performance package. Very few Volvos that I know have manual transmissions.
@chicoloco34112 жыл бұрын
Volvo is investing 11 billion dollars in itself, I seriously doubt they are going bankrupt. Nice comment, BIG MOUTH (small brain)
@ganuv5 жыл бұрын
I believe this car can do better then 5.2 sec ..
@Dreadzedan11 жыл бұрын
id give it the polestar treatment. coil-overs etc and pooowweerrrr!!!
@666rivnat12 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is going to buy this for a track? Jesus
@DrClaw7712 жыл бұрын
In North America, anyway. In Europe getting MTs on Volvos was/is much easier.
@brucec4311 жыл бұрын
I've seen the host of this show. He's not sliding around any seats. He has to be wedged in, I'd guess.
@BelowAboveAverage11 жыл бұрын
Volvo, a manual... please!
@ThrashMSlayer11 жыл бұрын
You clearly haven't driven one
@itbeokay11 жыл бұрын
There are some zany Volvo nuts out there... The C30 can beat Sti's and Evo's when massaged.
@atlzero93312 жыл бұрын
Mercedes C-Class Small Overlap Crash Test results no better than a Lincoln MKZ which is a rebadged Fusion.
@GTZ3Z Жыл бұрын
It should’ve had brembo brakes and paddle shifters 😢
@nicewayX12 жыл бұрын
nice!
@TshisoHlahaneАй бұрын
Yeah nice cah
@hondaftw123412 жыл бұрын
I agree, overpriced but I just love this car! I'll take the T5 best value and MPG for a decent price.
@dha5885 жыл бұрын
3800lbs is pretty heavy.
@StlPike200412 жыл бұрын
I just bought the S60R and think the Audi would take it 0-60. 40-80 ot 60-100 might be a different story.
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
StlPike2004 s60R and t6 R design are not the same. R design is way faster stock
@chosuriki12 жыл бұрын
Volvo, is the next SAAB.
@Christian-tu7dj Жыл бұрын
I own that shit it’s quick
@FuriousPumpkin12 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail for this video is totally WTF
@hertzer200012 жыл бұрын
It feels like a fusion. Fit and finish is no better than a Fusion.
@fernandorocha8459
Жыл бұрын
Very nice this Volvo S60
@mcximus12 жыл бұрын
J Davis lost a little weight
@glsracer12 жыл бұрын
Definitely ugly compared to the old car. I have a last generation XC70 and while they haven't screwed up the front of the new XC70 like they have this S60, they added more lights to the back and though I've tried, I just can't come around to the new look. I would like to buy a 2012 but I'm not sure if it's worth it. They should evolve the look on cars, not radically changed them.
@FrownyMascot2 жыл бұрын
Lol John Davis
@driveman45885 жыл бұрын
Volvo Volvo Volvo you could have done a better job on this car this is your r model
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Dale Forman and they did. Obviously you didn’t drive one
@eskimochild8712 жыл бұрын
id rather buy a volvo
@DJonX712 жыл бұрын
God no.
@DanishBeerpong12 жыл бұрын
First
@torment1234512 жыл бұрын
Just buy a G37.
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
torment12345 garbage
@noriceformeplz12 жыл бұрын
Ugly car IMO.. Id much rather buy an 850 T5 turbo. The price is ridiculous, for as tested price their is so many better cars out for the same amount.
@Mzrati12 жыл бұрын
Unimpressive
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Mzrati very impressive. Drive one then talk.
@KemuelValdes12 жыл бұрын
This review fails to highlight that compared to most of the competition, the seats are thrones, the ride is far better than in the S4 and the interior quality is up there with Merc and BMW.
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I just got mine 2020. 86K miles. I appreciate the car. I don't race on the track with it. So, the review is dead on correct. Its a great street car and very capable and fun to drive. I love my S60
@patrickmadden6340
4 жыл бұрын
The jukebox except this is an actual 6 cylinder engine not that 4 banger you got
@wheelie642
4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Madden Me? I have a T6 turbo. What r u smoking?
@patrickmadden6340
4 жыл бұрын
The jukebox weed just weed but you don’t even know what’s under your hood. Volvo only makes 4 bangers now
FYI, Volvo has done a few upgrades to the R-Design for the 2013 model year, a few of the biggest upgrades are the switch from a IV generation Haldex AWD to a lighter and more advanced V generation Haledex AWD so those 0-60 numbers should be lower AND a slight re-tune of the gear ratios. Not to mention Volvo addressed complaints about the brakes and the front rotors have gone from 12.4 inches to 13.2 inches to make cooling more effective and better wear.
I'm a Volvo fan but Volvo was STUPID not to put Brembo brakes standard on the R-Design
I was at a large corporate function a few weeks ago, and I couldn't even begin to count how many black S4 sedans there were scattered around the parking lot. They must be standard issue. I'll take the bright red Volvo.
Around town it has so much torque you barely touch the throttle. And awd's most fun attribute is that you can floor it in turns and not have to worry about oversteer or torque steer. It just goes.
I honestly don't care how it does on the track. John says that in real life on regular streets, it delivers. I don't really care how it compares to BMW and Audi either. It has a different feel and personality and I like it because it is not German feeling. I don't even need the R version. I'd take the softer-riding regular model but with the fastest engine in it. I like this car.
@PatrickRob82
Жыл бұрын
I've had a 2012 s60 t5 for almost 5 years now, and it's never let me down. The interior looks almost exactly the same and is VERY comfortable. Mine, unfortunately, is only FWD, but the turbo 5 cylinder is still a capable engine. 0-60 in around 6.3 seconds, which is not crazy fast but still peppy enough. I'd definitely recommend getting one, but I'd aim for the AWD version.
I don’t know how they were able to reach 5.2 0-60 i I tested my 2013 s60 r design and was able to hit 4.8 over and over again.
@topgeartim
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you're trying to say you got faster than them, or if it was a typo and that you got 5.8s. 4.8s seems insanely fast.
@taurussho86
2 жыл бұрын
@@topgeartim he's correct. Most folks get around 4.8s. Another post mentioned the 2013 model received a version 5 Haldex awd system. I have a 2012 with version 4. Gear ratios are slightly different on the 13. I'm planning on getting the Polestar tune this spring. Makes it even with the R-design as the difference was only a software update. Going from 300 to 325hp / 325 to 354 torque
@jackpez
2 жыл бұрын
I keep only getting 5.4 or higher with my 2013 :(((
@ar12.
3 ай бұрын
@@jackpezI still gotta test my 2011 one but 5.4 isn’t bad as I remember pd drive in Australia could only manage a 5.7 0-100 km/h time.
It's a tank, but smaller than you'd think for the weight and class. Heavy discounting makes them even more price competitive, just be prepared for sharp depreciation.
So, basically if they would bring back the better adjustable suspension and the better brembo brakes from the 2004-2007 R it would do better... and what about the manual while we're at it? Or, even better, just put the Polestar out with it's manual and brakes... in quantity, it will drop that price down a bit...
"unlike rivals, no true manual is available". True, but given the 5% take rate on those with other brands, it's hardly a big factor for 95% of drivers.
I think I like this design of the S60 best. The Polestar is my FAV s60 model.
there is a reason they call it R-design and not R cause the true R series volvos would destroy the new volvos on track i had a 2004 S60 R and that car would destroy corners and the brakes could make your face hurt they stopped so good
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Nuttty wrong ! The R design is way better !
@benjaminsmith2287
4 жыл бұрын
The true R model also would rattle your fillings on bad roads. The true R was great but the ride quality was hard to deal with in advanced mode and still had too many jolts in sport mode. Comfort was OK but never settled enough. The R design is a good compromise between comfort and sport.
Why are there people bitching about the price? Go and see how much more expensive the Audi S4 is than this, or better yet, go and see how a base 335i is more expensive than an S60 R-Design with options! The seats are more comfortable, the ride is nicer, the interior is just as good as the others and let's not forget that Audi has horrible reliability, BMW is merely average and Mercedes is still behind Volv
I lovd volvo, deep respect forf this company
How fast would it be with a polestar chip ??
@ganuv
3 жыл бұрын
The R design already comes with a polestar software from factory, but it’s definitely faster with the TDI tuning box!
@sncnutrition7118
2 жыл бұрын
@@ganuv I added a cold air intake , tdi tune and exhaust. Dynoed at 400 hp 435 tourque. 0-60 at 4.3 seconds.
More S60's were sold in March than A4's and Volvo is the fastest growing luxury car company in the world. ;)
Uh, aren't those 19" wheels, not 18"?
This or an Audi s4? I’m assuming this is more reliable.
@CirocObama.94
4 жыл бұрын
Being a previous owner okay yes for I can tell you for a fact that it is mine caught on fire
@M67v
2 жыл бұрын
S60. More reliable, less expensive (including maintenance). Imo it’s better looking, more personality, more unique, but just as many features. It’s not as quick tho; that Audi is a monster in that regard.
No manual. That's a killer for a would-be sports car.
please do a c30 review... 2012 preferably
Volvo S60 outperformed all the Germans in the IIHS Small Overlap Crash test - Mercedes C-Class was just pitiful! The 2013 S60 R-Design has upgraded brakes.
Having driven both and currently owning the S60, I can tell you that you're definitely wrong on that one...
This is a good review as are all the Motorweek videos but my God, is the writing that over the top and cheesy on purpose? I know all their videos are like that.
In Volvo's past, they were nothing more than cars and wagons that were safety conscious. The R-design puts it in the performance, but it's no Mercedes AMG or BMW M performance package. Very few Volvos that I know have manual transmissions.
Volvo is investing 11 billion dollars in itself, I seriously doubt they are going bankrupt. Nice comment, BIG MOUTH (small brain)
I believe this car can do better then 5.2 sec ..
id give it the polestar treatment. coil-overs etc and pooowweerrrr!!!
Who the hell is going to buy this for a track? Jesus
In North America, anyway. In Europe getting MTs on Volvos was/is much easier.
I've seen the host of this show. He's not sliding around any seats. He has to be wedged in, I'd guess.
Volvo, a manual... please!
You clearly haven't driven one
There are some zany Volvo nuts out there... The C30 can beat Sti's and Evo's when massaged.
Mercedes C-Class Small Overlap Crash Test results no better than a Lincoln MKZ which is a rebadged Fusion.
It should’ve had brembo brakes and paddle shifters 😢
nice!
Yeah nice cah
I agree, overpriced but I just love this car! I'll take the T5 best value and MPG for a decent price.
3800lbs is pretty heavy.
I just bought the S60R and think the Audi would take it 0-60. 40-80 ot 60-100 might be a different story.
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
StlPike2004 s60R and t6 R design are not the same. R design is way faster stock
Volvo, is the next SAAB.
I own that shit it’s quick
the thumbnail for this video is totally WTF
It feels like a fusion. Fit and finish is no better than a Fusion.
@fernandorocha8459
Жыл бұрын
Very nice this Volvo S60
J Davis lost a little weight
Definitely ugly compared to the old car. I have a last generation XC70 and while they haven't screwed up the front of the new XC70 like they have this S60, they added more lights to the back and though I've tried, I just can't come around to the new look. I would like to buy a 2012 but I'm not sure if it's worth it. They should evolve the look on cars, not radically changed them.
Lol John Davis
Volvo Volvo Volvo you could have done a better job on this car this is your r model
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Dale Forman and they did. Obviously you didn’t drive one
id rather buy a volvo
God no.
First
Just buy a G37.
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
torment12345 garbage
Ugly car IMO.. Id much rather buy an 850 T5 turbo. The price is ridiculous, for as tested price their is so many better cars out for the same amount.
Unimpressive
@ganuv
4 жыл бұрын
Mzrati very impressive. Drive one then talk.
This review fails to highlight that compared to most of the competition, the seats are thrones, the ride is far better than in the S4 and the interior quality is up there with Merc and BMW.
No that is something Jesus would not do :)