Help me to understand this, Assyrians who fought against Egypt described them as blacks. Greeks who went to study in Egypt, copied everything from Egypt, described Egyptians as black as well. So how did we go from people who witnessed true Egypt before the Arab invasion describing Egyptians as black to complete denial that they were even black by people who were born way after the fall of Egypt? This is madness😂😂😂!!

THE ENTIRE CIVILIZATION WAS BLACK, EGYPT AND NUBIA. STOP SEPARATING THE TWO ENGLAND AND FRANCE ARE EUROPEANS BUT DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND CULTURE …TILL THE HYKSOS AND THE PERSIANS THE ROMANS FINALLY THE ARABS….

Great lecture, the 25th dynasty were phenomenal and probably one of the best dynasty. My issue with the lecture started when they were referred to as the black pharaohs, implying other Kemetic pharaohs weren't black. Most of the Kemetic Pharaohs were black except for the hyskos, and the later Greeks and Roman's. Not saying there weren't some admixture as it grew but likely predominantly black. Black does include Nilo-saharan, Afrosan, Niger-congo, but all are related

@anthonygilbert7496

Жыл бұрын

Sheik Anta Diop research goes way beyond the sphinx. It was a well written comprehensively researched book about African (Negroid) origin of Kemet. This was defended at the Unesco in the 70s. I am disappointed that in 2022 we are still celebrating 25th dynasty as the "black pharaohs" as if they were the only ones, despite multiple evidence that proves otherwise.

@raidermanic872

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonygilbert7496 facts

@raidermanic872

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@adventuresinmoodcitypod2000

Жыл бұрын

Gates is a bootlicker. Why is he putting forth this bullshit narrative? How come he doesn't look at all the EGYPTIAN Pharoahs from 1 to 12. & then many after that ? Pre- Hyksos invasions , there was just indigenous Africans. There are tons of Egyptian Pharoahs that show themselves as clearly " Black African ". But does Gate's open a conversation about this ? No, he just doesn't want to ruffle any feather in academia , & keep his funding coming in. Sell out.

@raidermanic872

Жыл бұрын

@@adventuresinmoodcitypod2000 thank you I said the same damn thing

I named my son after this great Pharoah... Very glad he's getting his proper recognition 👏🏾

@SimonSozzi7258

Жыл бұрын

What's his nickname? Tahki?

@SimonSozzi7258

Жыл бұрын

So cute

@gregharris3224

Жыл бұрын

I know someone who's named after him I had no idea until I found a there was a black king by that name.

@catherinedavis1241

Ай бұрын

@@SimonSozzi7258 sweet

Stuart Tyson Smith is an expert in Nubian and Egyptian civilization. I watched his lecture sponsored by Harvard as well. He and most other the scholars speak of Nubia and Egypt as culture clusters, people who are related with a root Culture who splinter off. This woman spoke of the NUBIANS "skin colour" as if there weren't black kings of Egypt like HUNI, Senserat I, Amenhotep, or ruling class families in Egypt like the governor of Luxor Shemai's family etc🙄 These two peoples are cousins, a people who came from the same Southern African roots and culture. This is what Cambridge University the seat of Egyptology discussed it. The Nubians and Egyptians were rivals, no different than the Hausa and Yoruba in Nigeria or the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda. It's called tribalism that is as African as it comes. it doesn't mean the people are a different race as the subtext of this lecture suggests🙄 The God Amun's home was at Jebel Barkr mountain in SUDAN, ancient Nubia🙄 Yes the Nubians had a distinct culture that needs to stand on its own. But don't get it twisted, Nubia is older than Egypt and as the Greeks stated Egypt is a colony of Nubia. The noses are knocked off on all the clearly Black African looking statues. Somehow the Greek, Roman and Non black looking statues ALL have their noses 🙄

@andysawyer647

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I noticed this as well. It was so distracting

@koshkosh2745

11 ай бұрын

There really is nothing like "Black pharaohs/kings". All the kings were black. The ones who weren't black, Hyksos, they made us know those were foreigners. Nubia and Kemet cluster racially. They have the greatest cultural and religious continuity. Kemetyu were buried head facing Nubia, on their side just like Nubians did. This is by Badarian culture, 3 cultures before dynastic Egypt.

This was a great presentation. I learned more about this Nubian Pharoah conqueror than I ever learned from any other source. It's clear that both the Greeks as well as the Roman's said that the Egyptians were " black and looked like the Nubians ". They often lumped them together. Her separation of the Nubians from the Egyptians is not her claiming that the Egyptians were not black. Athens birthed certain Greek cities in Asia Minor and they ended up being rivals as well as alies and I think the same was true of Egypt and Nubia ...but nobody claims that the Asia Minor Greeks were not white 🙄

Christopher Ehret hasn't been on here since 2019. Is there any way to bring him back and have him talk about any new updated information, regarding ancient Nubia or Egypt. In 2019 he talked about how people was starting to see, through their own investigations that Bruce Williams work on Nubia was correct and being appreciated more than ever. I think we all would like to hear more about that. Thanks.

@kitani717

Жыл бұрын

Please update on Christopher Egret info on ancient Nubia....

Rita did amazing and thanks for having her on here. Maybe she could come back on here and talk about the first ruler of the 25 dynasty Piye and his conquest over Kemet.

@natronmeans6264

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call it a Conquest he was actually Purging the Land of the Asiatic violating Contaminants.. That's why he and his soldiers Bathed in the Nile before going into battle..

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

Piye? Don't you mean Pianki?

Gates gets on my nerves kissing up to false notions that Egyptian pharaohs were NOT predominately black. smh

@chiefvyhu_ru4487

25 күн бұрын

They was around when their was nobody but blk ppl so what else they going be lmao

Thank u for a wonderful and an informative lecture.

African Origins of Civilization by Dr. Cheik Anta Diop is the book that was mentioned.

Thank you for this wonderful presentation 👏🏽 🙏🏽 The movie world needs to start telling these historical stories.

Thanks you all I’m from Nubia

@mikamwambazi3807

2 жыл бұрын

THANKS BROTHER

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

@@mikamwambazi3807 Nubians are from northern Sudan and southern Egypt 🇪🇬

Which black scholar would sit there hearing a story of Nubia with it's people being treated as distinct from those of Kemet, then gives "Bravo Bravo"? This brother is unbelievable!

@TheCasheba

Жыл бұрын

Gates is not a scholar of African History and does not deserve to be spoken of as such. The Egyptians and the Nubians are both classified as Black Africans. The Egyptians were not Arabs! Do not be fooled by this presentation.

@TheCasheba

Жыл бұрын

All Africans do not all have JET Black skin, but nonetheless are still Africans by race. It is a shame that our ancient history has to be interpreted by Europeans.

@beyondaboundary6034

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCasheba Biological race is a pseudoscientific myth. Genetically speaking, all humans on the planet are Africans, and the differences within the groups mislabeled as "races" are much greater than the differences between them.

@alexandermathews9710

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCasheba it is a damned shame.

@devrayne6770

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCasheba I think that’s what the lady is misunderstanding when the Assyrians said the Kushites were black they literally meant black as in jet black, NILOTIC. The Egyptians were more brown skinned.

Ms Freed, your presentation was amazing. You explained it so clearly that even a child could understand it. Henry, this is a hard act to follow.

Thank you very much for a wonderful lecture 🌹

From all that I've read the "Egyptian vs Nubian" rivalry is greatly exaggerated. There's also a difference between Kushites and Nubians, but for some reason we refer to them interchangeably.

@tonybrown6496

Жыл бұрын

Could you explain the difference.

@2008topshelf

Жыл бұрын

interesting

@devrayne6770

Жыл бұрын

Nubia isn’t even what they called that land, Its just another name for Kush. Nubia comes from “Nub” which meant gold. It was also called Ethiopia by greeks.

@andysawyer647

Жыл бұрын

​@@tonybrown6496 The word kush was an insult rather than there name. kush was a specific ethnic group who came to power in what the western world calls Nubia. Medjay, Wawat, and the Blemmy's were Nehes or Nubian but nomes within Kemet. The Medjay were the police of Kemet. The Nile, or Hapi, was not completely desert and pastoralism was prevalent. This allowed different groups to argue over resources. Imo the Kushities either had a civil war with the ruling clan or split erred from them. Because of the familiar ties between the royal family's, the Rulers of Kush and Kemet became deep rivals.

Thank you

I like the fact we had shared Ammon god with the other Nubians in Egypt until the Arabs invaded Nubia and forced their own god, Allah, on Egyptians and Nubians 😀

@NubiansNapata

2 жыл бұрын

Upper Egypt and Nubia worship same gods for thousand of years..

@NubiansNapata

2 жыл бұрын

That is the past brother... Nubians and Egyptians are Muslims now

@obeahman6286

Жыл бұрын

Two different people with the same god? I wonder who conquered who to impose this. We know so little of these people.

Im somewhat surprised that a historian Skip gates, who also happens to be the director of a department specializing in African history, is unaware of the fact that the name Ethiopia was originally given to the area now today called Sudan and parts of upper Egypt. The name comes from the Greek word "Aetheop" which means "burnt face". The Ethiopia of today did not adopt that name until the 4th century AD when their emperor of that time (forget his name but it starts with an "E") decided to call his land and people Ethiopia.

To talk about black pharaohs is implying every other pharaoh was white or the so-called Mediterranean type. A white pharaoh would be the exception. This is misleading. So, we have the champion defender in Egypt, Zahi Hawass, making calculated statements that the ancient Egyptians “…were dark skin but not Negro” or “they were not black.” There is also a tendency to rigorously applied the true color black to all black people. Not all ancient Egyptians and ancient Nubians were jet-black neither nor all modern Africans are jet-black. Such an assumption, along with appearances associated with terms like Negro, Hamites, Nilotic, etc. are often used to muddy the racial identity of the ancient Egyptians. There are many images of other ancient Africans south of Egypt (Ta-Seti, Punt, Yam, etc.) with the same representations of ancient Egyptians. They say race is a modern construct, but this did not prevent the ancient Greeks like Herodotus and Aristotle to refer to ancient Egyptians and Nubians as black. No amount of intellectual acrobatics can refute the descriptions of Africans along the Nile by ancient Europeans. Note, even James Breasted (father of American Egyptology) outsmarted himself when he stated that the ancient Egyptians were not “negro” and they are instead related to the Galla (Oromos), Somalis, and Bejas (A History of Egypt by James Breasted). The video in the following link is quite revealing because it shows how Eurocentric scholars do their best to avoid stating that ancient dynastic Egypt was a civilization dominated by Africans, starting with Narmer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o46BqdKDc7eYqM4.html&ab_channel=AfricanBooth

Best video

Excellent video and sorry that the movie "The Last Pharaoh" was not done by Will Smith and Randall Wallace who was schedule to write the screen play.

This is good. Tirhaqa is my favorite pharoah. Stop calling it "near Eastern," it's African. We need to stop projecting the false hamitic hypothesis into African history. Otherwise, good job.

@craigr6842

2 жыл бұрын

In another decade they will totally disconnect Nubia from the African continent. This is totally disgusting.

@AskiatheGreat64

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigr6842 That will never happen.

@craigr6842

2 жыл бұрын

@@AskiatheGreat64 Happened in Egypt

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

@@AskiatheGreat64 the real Nubians are from northern Sudan and southern Egypt

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

But you not a Nubian the only people that are Nubians are the people that’s living in northern Sudan 🇸🇩 and southern Egypt 🇪🇬

1500 miles his kingdom was stretching from Mogran (aka Khartoum) to the Egyptian Delta in the north .. no wonder he’s the king of all kings ملك الملوك ..

Excellent lecture. Please publish it in a book.

Dopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Such a great story. Thank you Ms.Rita Freed 🙏🏾 Anyone who has Rita’s contact address please? Thank you

Dr. Clyde Winters states that he has translated the ancient Nubian language. Is he wrong?

The ancient Egyptians were Nubian themselves.

where, which are the documents stating that he built a Pyramid?

Can we do more historical lectures on west, central, and Southern Africa specifically

@AskiatheGreat64

2 жыл бұрын

Professor Robert Walker has already done a lecture on the Timbuktu Manuscripts.

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

@@AskiatheGreat64 Arabic influence

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

@@AskiatheGreat64 real Nubians are from northern Sudan 🇸🇩 and southern Egypt 🇪🇬 beja tribes

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

The Khoisan are the real indigenous peoples of Southern Africa secondly Bantus don’t have a history they were slaves

@AskiatheGreat64

Жыл бұрын

@@RR-ri4vn No, not really, it was written in Ajami Script and also some local languages as well such as Mandinka, the only reason why some manuscripts from Timbuktu were written in Ajami is because they were Muslims not that they were Arabs, the city of Timbuktu was fully built by the Mandinka with the Sudano Sahelian architecture with is 100 percent unique to the people's of the west Africa Sahel, there was also another empire in the Sahel west Africa called the Ghana empire which was founded in 300 AD, centuries before Islam even existed, and even if it was an Arabic influence which it wasn't, so what? Literally all cultures from different civilizations were influenced from other civilizations, the Phoenician Script was borrowed from the Egyptian Script and the Greek Script was borrowed from the Phoenician Script, and there was also another writing system native to west Africa called the Nsibidi Script with zero to none influence.

Regarding the image at 18:56, Doesn’t The other side of Tuts casket show the Egyptians vanquishing a lighter skinned people?

@devrayne6770

6 ай бұрын

If you're referring to the Asiatics then yes. They rarely show the art of Egyptians battling them because they have to keep the narrative that Egyptians went to war with the jet black Africans, even though it's clear from that image that some Kushites shared the same skin tone as Ramses himself.

In the future I hope this lectures use the indigenous name rather than exonyms.

The ancient Egyptians represented other African neighbors in many ways and not just in negative ways. The same can be said of people from outside of Africa. If it is not obvious to some, many of the people fleeing are "tanned" just like the King.

What happened to his family

@AskiatheGreat64

Жыл бұрын

Probably killed or raised in Assyrian household.

350 B.C. to 350 A.D. inscriptions they can't translate ? They can read it but not translate it ... and admit it?

@nerdlarge4691

11 ай бұрын

I believe they know how to phonetically sound out the words and symbols but they don't know the meaning behind the sounds.

Not knowing anything else, he looked just the way he was shown. This idealistic assumption is taken to the extreme.

@bobwilson7684

3 ай бұрын

that part was freaking..

The only information this video is missing is why the Kushites could never commit to anything but a defensive war with the Assyrians. They always had one eye on the princes of northern Egypt who were always ready to rebel if given the chance. The Nubians and southern Egyptians were very faithful people to the old gods of the Egyptian religion while the north was filled was gods that were part Libyan and Canaanite. So when people say that Egypt was united by Psamtik that is a lie as the Upper Egyptians(southern) would certainly disagree with that and saw them as heathen half Egyptian godless foreigners who sought to align themselves with foreign gods and peoples. The bad guys actually won the war.

Let me guess.... We (black people) cant claim him either because we'd be offending modern demographic population of Egypt?

@gerrysharpe1958

9 ай бұрын

LoL, how ironic. Our extensive African history offends people worldwide 🌎 when they realize it contradicts the inferiority narrative. The truth will rise again! Serious scholarship will defeat the indoctrination versus education. Mother Africa

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

The modern demography, weren't there, this is history. 😊

em-se An-m-a-u-deh-f-explain Uau who-a-who Ua-go on, God goes on Where can ua-n find deh tchet t-deh, tday 2023 Jamaica ua-n place-deh, phonetic-T, 1-form(T, teh, deh) Jamaican tchet older than when T and D became seperate! We know from Ua-deh, God earth, to Ua-nu-deh, God SKY(Nut or NU-DEH) and what older than the sky and earth??? Deh-f-nu-deh(tefnut) A-ua-f-deh, heaven on earth, as above so is below... em-se uatchet, in the beginning God said... in summary, Given ANY word in Ancient Egyptian one can associate a word, saying or sentence in #Jamaican . The projection-map.

...And then came Ashurbanipal ✌️

Why is it’s nose destroyed? The Bible is not 7 thousand years old !!

THERE WAS NO EGYPT YET THESE LIARS CONTINUE TO CALL KEMET EGYPT INSTEAD OF IT'S ORIGINAL NAME

Just be quiet and just talk about western leave African alone .?thanks

The real Nubians are living in northern Sudan and southern Egypt 🇪🇬 they are the only Nubians in Africa not all blacks are Nubians and only Sudanese peoples

@iam_dameechi

Жыл бұрын

#realtalkfrfr #facts 🇯🇲 💯 yes all Shemites are not Hammites but if they are brothers then they are related.

@RR-ri4vn

Жыл бұрын

@@iam_dameechi it’s not your history are the beja kushites are not related to west Africans African from the Niger Congo branch are not Nubians or kingdom of kush

@AskiatheGreat64

Жыл бұрын

@@RR-ri4vn Beja's aren't Nubians, they're descended from the Blemmyes from the eastern desert, the only people who are descendent from the ancient Nubians are the modern Nubian tribes such as the Kenzi, Faadica, Mahas, Danagla and Sukkot, Greeks and Romans aren't related to western Europeans who are from a Germanic branch so what is your point? And not all west African ethnic groups are from the Niger - Congo branch, the Hausa people are the largest ethnic group in west Africa and they are an Afro-Asiatic branch and the Hausa language is the second most spoken Afro-Asiatic language in the world after Arabic, and some ethnic groups in west Africa are also found in the Sudan such as the Hausa and the Fulani, not to mention that the Soninke have traditions that say they migrated from Aswan. west Africa also hosted several civilizations like the Ghana, Mali, Songhai and Kanem Borno empires as well as Atlantic coast Kingdoms such as the Kingdom of Benin, Ife, Oyo, Ashanti, and even the oldest written language is from western Africa, the Nsibidi Script.

@marwaabbaro5020

Жыл бұрын

Sudanese people not all blacks

@lisabee1260

Жыл бұрын

@RR-ri4vn i’ve seen a lot of comments like these popping up lately ……Your argument comes off as divisive and borderline racist. Just as your people enjoy commemorate and pay homage to your Middle Eastern history. So do Black people throughout the diaspora which pertains, to Black history which includes African, Latin, Caribbean,, American, European, and even some Arab histories (Bilal mentioned in the holy Quran was a black man) Black people are spread out worldwide due to migration and of course the unfortunate slave trade, this has been going on for thousands or hundreds of years. We have historical figures in those mention places , we have our people in those places back in history, and even today , which contributes to the collective black history and in some cases intermingle with other peoples histories, including our own due to interaction in antiquity,….. so you have to understand that when we talk about Black history, we are not limiting it just to one type of Black people. Black people, including African-Americans and other Black people in other places, as I mentioned (because Blackness is not monolithic) many of us have lineage in southern Africa, some have lineage in eastern Africa, and some have lineage in Northern Africa, central Africa , South America, Mexico, Europe, Caribbean, etc. (and any of us that were part of the slave trade, have a mixture of lineages within the continent of Africa, and wherever the slave trade took our ancestors) So it is not fair for you to try to minimize our limit what we want to pay homage to , commemorate ,and learn to teach others pertaining to Black history. Maybe your history is limited to a certain region… but that is not so for others, as you can clearly see. Black people ( and by that I mean all people of African dissent in the diaspora) collectively pay homage to collective pan African history ( which means worldwide history pertaining to Black people, because we have to seek out and find our history to teach others including our children, because our history is suppressed due to racism),….. and even though it hurts your soul to know that Egypt is in Africa… and some Egyptians intermingled with the Nubians…. So your argument seems to come from a negative place , alluding to racism , possibly even nationalism, and a superiority complex….. no one is trying to take anything from you. Many of the artifacts in history that has anything to do with Black people worldwide has been appropriated, destroyed and minimized, or even told in a negative light, because of racism… that includes Nubia , which has been minimized and possibly even destroyed because of this and even they have been alluded to as being primitive when that is not the case, and it is not taught in our schools because of racism….. to eliminate, Nubia’s contribution to Egypt is to indoctrinate your own people with a half truth, by not telling the WHOLE story… I know many of you are triggered by the Cleopatra documentary….. And I understand ,but anyone that is educated understands that Cleopatra is of Macedonian/Greek heritage ….however, no one knows anything about her mother, so her actual race is questionable.…. I think that before many of you are quick to attack, Black people that you should keep what I said in mind… and a lot of you mention Afrocentricity-which is history taught from an African perspective because who else can teach others about African history other than an African. The larger historical perspective is from a Eurocentric standpoint, so is it better to receive history from a White perspective only? Is it only valid that white people tell the African story? Honestly, I do not believe that to be, adequate, proper and it could contribute to in accurate information…. Not trying to go back-and-forth but I just hope you keep that in mind.

That’s misleading work she’s showing.

@jamesregiste960

5 ай бұрын

Misleading,? In what way?you're saying something, while simultaneously saying nothing! 😊