RISC-V Week: 7 days only using RISC-V computers

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Can RISC-V be used for all computing activities for a whole week? In this video I try to use only RISC-V hardware for 7 days . . .
Note that since I made this video, Sipeed have got the Kdenlive video editor working, as I cover in this follow-up video: • RISC-V Video Editing &...
The Lichee Pi 4A Wiki is here:
wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/l...
And the VisionFive 2 Debian June 2023 Wiki is here:
rvspace.org/en/project/Vision...
My previous review of the Sipeed Licheed Pi 4A is here:
• Lichee Pi 4A: Serious ...
And of the StarFive VisionFive 2 is here:
• VisionFive 2: RISC-V Q...
My 2023 RISC-V Update is also here:
• RISC-V 2023 Update: Fr...
And all of my RISC-V reviews and other videos are in this playlist:
• Explaining RISC-V: An ...
And I have a video about online security and hardware keys (Yubikeys) here:
• Cyber Security: Protec...
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:14 The RISC Five (RISC-V hardware)
04:11 Streaming & VisionFive 2
09:18 Video Production
13:15 Apps & Gaming
15:44 Security
18:45 Performance (tests)
22:58 Conclusions
#RISC-V #Desktop #Linux #explainingcomputers

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  • @ExplainingComputers
    @ExplainingComputers11 ай бұрын

    Hi all, a couple of things. Firstly, I was clearly wrong about GIMP Lava test being multi-threaded. My bad. Secondly, it is now possible (just over a day after this video posted) to run the Kdenlive video editing on the Lichee Pi 4A. Yes, we can now video edit on RISC-V hardware! I knew it would happen -- but not that fast. If you've interested, I've done a quick post over in the Community Tab for this channel, and will demosntrate in a video fairly soon.

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    11 ай бұрын

    And a simple matter of installing a library. The question here was why the library wasn't in the Kdenlive package dependencies to be installed automatically..

  • @mercster

    @mercster

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BruceHoult Probably because no other nutters are running kdenlive on a Risc-V ;-) But that's the Linux way... things get fixed when someone finds a fault.

  • @jediknight2350

    @jediknight2350

    10 ай бұрын

    hi im interested in risc-v for monero mining any chance you could try and mine some monero loves to know the hashrate these could be good for stacking and mining the coin thanks.

  • @mercster

    @mercster

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jediknight2350 shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

  • @JohnnyWednesday

    @JohnnyWednesday

    10 ай бұрын

    Look foward to it - love your videos :)

  • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
    @DodgyBrothersEngineering11 ай бұрын

    Any hardware platform that gives us options beyond the monopolies is a winner with me. Looking forward to a RISC-V future.

  • @timseguine2

    @timseguine2

    10 ай бұрын

    Pluralizing monopoly is a bit like pluralizing "lone wolf"

  • @DodgyBrothersEngineering

    @DodgyBrothersEngineering

    8 ай бұрын

    @@timseguine2 very true, beyond the duopoly.

  • @rmcdudmk212
    @rmcdudmk21211 ай бұрын

    Forcing yourself to use Risc V computers for a week is a great way to show how far the tech has come and where it still needs some work. Great video. 👍

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    11 ай бұрын

    Bear in mind that until these two boards existed there was no reason to even bother to port this kind of desktop software to RSIC-V - there was simply nothing capable of running it that was in enough people's hands to be worth the effort. The VisionFive 2 has now been out for just over six months (I received mine in the first week of February, as did most other people who preordered in August 2022), and the non-beta version of the Lichee Pi 4A came out in July (I ordered mine on July 7 when orders opened and had it on July 22). These boards are roughly in Pi 4 class, plus or minus. There will be boards coming next year in Rock 5 / Orange Pi 5 class, which is a big step up. For those with a lot more money to spend, there are also boards available for preorder right now, shipping soon, which have the same C910 CPU cores as the Lichee Pi 4A, but sixty four of them in the chip instead of four. And 128 GB RAM in 4 DIMMs on 4 memory controllers, 32 lanes of PCIe, things like that.

  • @hiredgun7186

    @hiredgun7186

    11 ай бұрын

    its great some things "work" but far from efficient or expedient yet , this is at a level of 286 or 386 ( in comparative relative viewing) great that it sorta works , but needs a LOT of refining to make it truly productive or efficient yet. Kudos to all the work that has gone into this research and encouragement to future research

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hiredgun7186 no, they are around late Pentium 3 to Pentium M / Centrino, but with far better GPU than was ever on a machine like that. And of course massively smaller, cheaper, and lower energy use. They are something like 500 to 1000 times faster than a 286 or early 386. Per core, and they have four of them. There was also no GPU on 286 or 386 computers, every pixel was drawn by the CPU. These boards could run your 386 software in QEMU or others at least 10 times faster than any 386 that was ever made.

  • @NoX-512

    @NoX-512

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hiredgun7186286 and 386? That’s going way too far back. Those processors were 32-bit, single core and not anywhere near 1.5 GHz. What’s holding back SBC’s the most are the GPU’s and low power budgets.

  • @web3wizard381

    @web3wizard381

    10 ай бұрын

    tbh most desktop facing apps are architecture independent@@BruceHoult

  • @syrus3k
    @syrus3k11 ай бұрын

    The fact the desktop environment works at all shows that things are going well. The gnome desktop is built on top of hundreds of packages

  • @KiraSlith

    @KiraSlith

    10 ай бұрын

    Not just that, it has all the basic life tools. Other than the obvious "getting used to linux" difficulties, it's already doing basic daily tasks normal people need a computer for and a few more advanced jobs, the first board (the LP4A) I daresay is already grandma-ready after installation. Would be nice if these chips were generally faster though, but that's just a problem for the 1st generation of any SBC type.

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling11 ай бұрын

    The real challenge is going flip-phone only, how will we stay in tune with the latest Twitter X dramas every half hour?

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Greetings Jeff. And here's a thing -- that is my actual phone. :) I swapped my smartphone for a flip-phone (and a MiFi unit that I use with a tablet or laptop when I travel) in 2016. Some days I go 8+ hours without being online!

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    11 ай бұрын

    That's amazing! We can all use a bit more time separated from the Internet, it takes effort these days! Also I think Arm having 32/64 bit for a while was helpful in getting many open source projects to convert from x86 + a separate arm build to "x86, x64, arm7, arm64" style builds, which makes adding on "riscv" to that list that much easier. Especially for things like Docker images (which is my major interest!)

  • @sbrazenor2

    @sbrazenor2

    11 ай бұрын

    I check Twitter/X weekly, sometimes less. I was actually banned from it for over a year. You learn to stop caring faster than you might expect.

  • @igordasunddas3377

    @igordasunddas3377

    11 ай бұрын

    What's Twitter/X 😂. Yeah, I am joking, but I visit Twitter perhaps once a month or so. Don't care for it.

  • @Praxibetel-Ix

    @Praxibetel-Ix

    11 ай бұрын

    I deleted my account earlier this year and never looked back. 😎 I do keep up with some X/Twitter/bird app drama whenever it hits the news.

  • @markdonnelly1913
    @markdonnelly191311 ай бұрын

    It would certainly be interesting to revisit this test in 12 -18 months from now, and do a direct comparison.

  • @cavemaneca

    @cavemaneca

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@wotzinator6282 I'd imagine that in 12-18 months there's a good chance of seeing both.

  • @marcomoreno6748

    @marcomoreno6748

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@wotzinator6282Why not both?

  • @terrydaktyllus1320

    @terrydaktyllus1320

    11 ай бұрын

    @@wotzinator6282 I think that for me, I'd want to see better software optimisation, particularly around the graphics drivers - because ultimately its the ability to handle multimedia and some games well that allows it to metamorphose from a development board to a consumer one (not that I am unhappy messing around with dev boards). To be fair, Linux on ARM has had a huge amount of investment and drive from Google because Android is ultimately a "Linux variant" whereas Linux on RISC V has not had that head start.

  • @NoX-512

    @NoX-512

    11 ай бұрын

    @@terrydaktyllus1320Google is working on Android for RISC-V. Should be ready in 2024.

  • @LivingLinux

    @LivingLinux

    11 ай бұрын

    That's not even a challenge, assuming the MILK-V Pioneer will be released at the end of this year. A 64 core RISC-V system that uses an AMD GFX-card.

  • @jaffarbh
    @jaffarbh11 ай бұрын

    I think it's important to keep in mind that any hardware "accelerated" graphics is unrelated to the ISA (RISC-V in this case) but rather whatever GPU the manufacturer of the board has decided to incorporate, and of course the display driver. Nevertheless, mature ISAs today took many years to improve. RISC-V is certainly maturing at a much faster rate :)

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    Why you need IBM System bus on RISC V, what you run on them ??? most RICS C systems are embattled only, no I/O needed ! uu make a gaming machine on it ? why that ????

  • @daveamies5031
    @daveamies503111 ай бұрын

    Much more worked than I expected, seems to be about where the ARM SBC's were only a few years ago, and it seems that RISCV is progressing faster, very impressive 👍

  • @hermanwooster8944

    @hermanwooster8944

    11 ай бұрын

    Many governments around the world have an incentive to accelerate development, but this is truly astounding and nice to see. Hoping this will produce new software paradigms and OS's to go with it!.

  • @shivanSpS

    @shivanSpS

    11 ай бұрын

    Considering it is faster than a RPI4 it is already faster than most of the ARM SBC out there, the only exception being the RK3588 ones, thats really impressive considering RISC-V is just starting.

  • @DigitalJedi

    @DigitalJedi

    11 ай бұрын

    @@shivanSpSIt's super impressive. I could see the right combination of CPU, GPU, RAM, and software support rivaling the Celeron / Intel N-series boards we have seen in not a whole lot of time.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    @@shivanSpS And this is before we have final, well-optimized software. :)

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@shivanSpS expect RK3588-class RISC-V boards mid 2024. They might not meet RK3588S prices, but full-on RK3588 boards aren't cheap and seem a realistic target.

  • @RoboNuggie
    @RoboNuggie11 ай бұрын

    I'm having to use a Raspberry Pi 400 on a semi-permanent basis until all my computers etc are taken out of storage, and it's a capable machine.... I can see RISC-V machines along the same vein as the Pi 400 in scope and design also being capable as you say in about 18 months time. We are living in a new mini-golden age of low power-consuming machines, and it's great -) Cheers Chris, thanks for your videos and your dedication.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your support. :) The Pi 400 is indeed a capable machine.

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    what need, ATM machines you run, embattled systems ? Why you see you need RISC now ?

  • @jinty83
    @jinty8311 ай бұрын

    Outstanding video Chris. Getting through your week at a slower pace isn't always a bad thing. My internet is quite slow as I live in the countryside but it definitely makes you more patient. I'm amazed at how well the hardware/software worked for most of your tasks, even if a few things didn't. Early days and exciting times ahead for RISC-V 😁

  • @GertBoers
    @GertBoers11 ай бұрын

    I'm somewhat amazed that the Gnome desktop is used. Don't get me wrong, it's my favorite desktop. But, it's not known for being the best in using system resources. XFCE (used on the first board) is way more efficient. But nowadays, KDE Plasma is also very efficient on system resources, which would make it a better option than Gnome, IMHO. But cool to see that RISC-V, although in development, is already usable. Very nice!

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    It is certainly an interesting choice given the resources it uses.

  • @Ghennesph
    @Ghennesph11 ай бұрын

    Anyone remember when a 733mhz pentium 3 could load rich text documents faster than this? It wasn't a faster cpu, but it sure ran faster software. I miss high performance/low overhead software.

  • @SuperDavidEF

    @SuperDavidEF

    11 ай бұрын

    Developers have gotten lazy and/or greedy for resources.

  • @ashleymiller7439

    @ashleymiller7439

    11 ай бұрын

    I remember that, I also remember 3 minute boot up times and OS crashes on the regular.

  • @ernestoditerribile

    @ernestoditerribile

    11 ай бұрын

    He should’ve done it on a IBM Mainframe or server with an IBM Power Processor running AIX. RISC Processors from IBM are really powerful. Why would you use such a low powered device as shown in the video.

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ernestoditerribile Why is he using it, what is the need? Always weird content here !

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ernestoditerribile because the Lichee Pi 4A (and BeagleBoard Ahead with the same SoC) is the fastest RISC-V computer on sale as at August 2023. It's likely to hold that title no more than two to three months, but it will probably remain the fastest RISC-V under $200 for 6-12 months until the VisionFive 3 (presumably) with JH8100 SoC comes out. The IBMs (and Talos) are not only a completely different ISA with completely different software, but also at least 20 times more expensive.

  • @michaelschneider603
    @michaelschneider60311 ай бұрын

    An important video, and an eye opener. I've been informing myself about what's going on about RISC-V for a number of years now, but only very occasionally. I was able to see some progress here and there but would have been entirely unable to tell how RISC-V currently compares to the established competition - and would have tended to believe that it's very far behind. I certainly wouldn't have expected what I saw in this video and I have to say that I am very positively surprised!

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb11 ай бұрын

    Always good to know what's on the bleeding edge of tech. Hopefully there's someone(s?) out there already working to improve the multimedia capabilities of RISC-V systems. Thanks for another great video Chris.

  • @davey820051
    @davey82005111 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your commitment. Somehow your experience got me reminiscing about the pace of work using my Compaq Deskpro 386 three short decades ago (which, in all fairness, sped up considerably after my dear wife purchased a math co-processor for me).

  • @feliksszyszka
    @feliksszyszka11 ай бұрын

    Great video as always, chris! Its really fascinating to see how open source ISA processors are getting more and more capable.

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    capable ? Why you need it ? What systems u use ?

  • @MohsinExperiments
    @MohsinExperiments9 ай бұрын

    I am very excited about this open source processor since I watched the Linus video about it. And now they are in people's hands.

  • @Antti_Nannimus
    @Antti_Nannimus11 ай бұрын

    Very nicely done, Dr. Barnatt. In a previous century you would probably have been our bravest and most reliable wilderness scout, leading us through the unknown dangers and hostile forces toward safety in our wonderful new homes. I find it highly admirable, sir, that (mixing my metaphors) for our sake, and to maintain your leadership credibility, you are willing to eat your own dogfood for an entire week. As you so honestly advised us, it is clearly too early for embarking on the RISC-V journey for most of us pilgrims, but the future looks very bright now and we will soon be able to uncircle our wagons and proceed to our destiny. Thank you, sir!

  • @jeraldgooch6438
    @jeraldgooch643811 ай бұрын

    Chris, thanks for yet another excellent video. Since I am here, I will say that during this last week I was (yet again) looking through your videos to help figure something out. I was ( yet again) reminded of the breadth and depth of the topics covered. Well done and please keep it up! Cheers!

  • @jpwillm5252
    @jpwillm525211 ай бұрын

    Thank you for these different tests with hardware under RISC-V. This is very promising !

  • @sbc_tinkerer
    @sbc_tinkerer11 ай бұрын

    Blessed Sunday greetings all! Thank you for this fine video sir! It looks like RISC-V has come a long way with much more to go but nice progress. An open alternative would be most welcome in today's closed off world. I do hope to get some time soon to start tinkering with these fine boards. Looking forward to the availability of that LP4A cluster board to run alongside my Pi3B cluster and my soon to be up and running Pi4 cluster. But now that's it for another comment and I hope to talk to you all again, very soon! (Sorry for the plagiarism. It just works so well.)

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    I can imagine you running the cluster board! :) That could be a lot of parallel RISC-V processing.

  • @richjamjam
    @richjamjam11 ай бұрын

    Great video. Loving RISC-V. We need to see the bloopers/behind the scenes frustrations!

  • @lamamainstr

    @lamamainstr

    11 ай бұрын

    They would probably in bash ;-)

  • @jonathanleach3914
    @jonathanleach391411 ай бұрын

    Really well done. I can really imagine the hours behind the scenes getting things to work. Clearly not ready for mainstream use, but likely in a few years it will be. Thank you.

  • @N0WYO1
    @N0WYO111 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing your first video on RISC V boards and it's amazing how far they've come. It still has a long way to go, but This is really interesting. Great analysis and another great video, Chris.

  • @jauntyfox
    @jauntyfox11 ай бұрын

    Great video! Thank you for the great content

  • @briccimn
    @briccimn9 ай бұрын

    Really exciting perspectives for the future! Thanks Christopher, it is very interesting as you made us used to expect from you! 👍👍👍

  • @wanyman
    @wanyman11 ай бұрын

    Great video! I don’t know much about RISC V so I’ve appreciated your coverage.

  • @WalterW
    @WalterW11 ай бұрын

    Christopher is living the computer life I want. 10/10 video!

  • @poepflater

    @poepflater

    10 ай бұрын

    I was expecting him to rock an old amber monitor from 1988

  • @Goman1244
    @Goman124411 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for your excellent presentations on the current status of SBCs and other related areas.. It helps me keep up to date as I watch each week.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watchin. :)

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin11 ай бұрын

    Only using RISC V sounds like a great way to appreciate time away from the computer!

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    This is very true. A week not using a mobile computing device was very relaxing.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320

    @terrydaktyllus1320

    11 ай бұрын

    Sorry, am I missing something here? Isn't a RISC V SBC still a computer?

  • @Jossandoval

    @Jossandoval

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@terrydaktyllus1320yes, just like a diet soda is still a soda.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320

    @terrydaktyllus1320

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Jossandoval If you say so, though I was talking about computers, not fizzy drinks.

  • @hermanwooster8944

    @hermanwooster8944

    11 ай бұрын

    @@terrydaktyllus1320 They mean less computing.

  • @volvo09
    @volvo0911 ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed this episode, for you to be able to run on this hardware for a week without crippling issues shows just how much the architecture has evolved.

  • @EngineerLewis
    @EngineerLewis11 ай бұрын

    I had an Acorn A5000 RISC PC and loved using it but sold it off for a good price a few years ago. It is very interesting to see Single Board RISC PCs now coming along and look forward to see how these develop. Thanks for all your work Christopher and I am close to Nottingham so interesting to come across your work.

  • @lavafree
    @lavafree11 ай бұрын

    Very interesting…and important! to have open source architecture with good performance. Thanks for the review

  • @BarnokRetro
    @BarnokRetro10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for another interesting video. It will be fun to follow this over the next 2 to 3 years and see how it all progresses.

  • @c3048073
    @c304807311 ай бұрын

    Great video as always 😀

  • @kiri101
    @kiri10110 ай бұрын

    Nice little exploration, thanks for that

  • @FrankFloresRGVZGM
    @FrankFloresRGVZGM11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for investigating this new exciting architecture!

  • @IEnjoyCreatingVideos
    @IEnjoyCreatingVideos10 ай бұрын

    Nice video Chris! Thanks for always sharing with us 💖👍😎JP

  • @rigorobles3991
    @rigorobles399111 ай бұрын

    Dear Chris, I am writing to express my sincere gratitude for your amazing video on using RISC-V for a week. I have learned so much from your informative and entertaining content, and I always look forward to your new uploads. Your video has inspired me to try out RISC-V for myself and to see how it compares to other architectures. You have also helped me to understand the benefits and challenges of using RISC-V, such as its openness, modularity, efficiency, compatibility, and versatility. You are a great teacher and a role model for me and many others who share your enthusiasm for technology. I appreciate your dedication, creativity, and generosity in sharing your experience and insights with us. Thank you for making technology fun and accessible for everyone. You are the best! Sincerely, Rigo Robles

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your kind feedback, appreciated. :)

  • @abucketofelves

    @abucketofelves

    11 ай бұрын

    Which LLM was used to generate this comment do you think? The style suggests either Bing chat or chatgpt. If I had to guess I'd say Bing based on the way it groups adjectives in sets.

  • @anothergoogleuser
    @anothergoogleuser10 ай бұрын

    Very exciting! Thank you for sharing,

  • @anthonymccarthy4164
    @anthonymccarthy416411 ай бұрын

    I love it when you do these, I learned so much from the earlier ones on Raspberry Pie computers.

  • @dang48
    @dang4811 ай бұрын

    Definitely a lot of work put into this. Thank you and very well done.

  • @Razor_Burn
    @Razor_Burn11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing Chris as it's been exciting seeing the new RISC-V SBCs progressing along nicely. The future is bright so please keep us updated with future videos as software continues to improve for these board's 🎉

  • @nicolaswolf6045
    @nicolaswolf604511 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for all the great content!

  • @natanielfuentes6914
    @natanielfuentes691411 ай бұрын

    Wow, that was brave, I don't think I could do it for a week without x86-64.

  • @crom29a
    @crom29a11 ай бұрын

    Very enjoyable video. I look forward to the future of RISC-V computers.

  • @kriskelvin64
    @kriskelvin6411 ай бұрын

    Great update on the implementation of RISC-5 . Future looks interesting for this technology.

  • @Clark-Mills
    @Clark-Mills11 ай бұрын

    Thanks, great work as usual! :)

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your support.

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube11 ай бұрын

    Greetings. It's a great experiment with RISC - V. The outlook seems promising for the open architecture.

  • @avejst
    @avejst10 ай бұрын

    impressive week to overcome. Thanks for sharing your experience with all of ud 👍😀

  • @edwarddolezal559
    @edwarddolezal55911 ай бұрын

    Im looking forward to seeing the day when we get risk v based routers and wifi access points, as well as thin clients. I wouldn't mind building a nas with a risk v board when they are more widely available. But seeing how far they have come gives me hope for the future.

  • @garystewart3110
    @garystewart311011 ай бұрын

    Wonderful, informative video as always. Thanks

  • @alanthornton3530
    @alanthornton353011 ай бұрын

    Thanks Chris for an interesting video on Risc V, it's admirable how you managed to use both boards for a whole week! It'll be interesting to see how this matures over the next 12 to 18 months, hopefully a credible desktop replacement will appear. Another happy Sunday :)

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Greetings Alan!

  • @FujinBlackheart
    @FujinBlackheart11 ай бұрын

    I own both of these single board computers and have a lot fun to see how it developes, something to note here considering nothing is really baked and optimized on RSIC-V yet even the open source driver for the Imagination GPU on those devices still needs a lot cooking even on ARM, will be fun to see what these can do when fully cooked.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    I like your phrase -- it will indeed be good when everything is fully cooked. :)

  • @user-wm4oe4kk7t
    @user-wm4oe4kk7t11 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot for sharing!

  • @voneschenbachmusic
    @voneschenbachmusic11 ай бұрын

    Risc V is getting to be a viable solution for general computing - looking forward to more mature hardware and OS options!

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    voneschenbachmusic Germans need it ? General Computing ? This is not that, only Germans need it for general computing, Merkel boycott crap solutions you need ?

  • @WaltBankes
    @WaltBankes11 ай бұрын

    Chris thank you so much for pursuing the morphing of single board computers into desktop computers. I will be looking forward to your next step in this process. Keep up the good work.

  • @linux2420
    @linux242011 ай бұрын

    As soon as some more software gains support, im definitely switching to risc-v on my laptop. Ive gutted an old thinkpad w520, and i was gonna put a pi 4 in there but i just dont wanna do that yet when i can feel a risc-v system being so close to possible! Absolutely excellent video, i hope to see more progress on risc-v in the future and i greatly appreciate the attention your channel brings to the architecture!

  • @peterbeer8657
    @peterbeer865711 ай бұрын

    Definitely interesting to learn about this! Seems it's on it's way to becoming something good.

  • @rogerkoh1979
    @rogerkoh197911 ай бұрын

    Look promising. It has improved over the months. Hopefully as time goes by, things would work well.

  • @andic6676
    @andic667611 ай бұрын

    Really great video Chris! I use Debian Stable as a daily driver, finding it reliable but the type of OS that doesn't like being messed with at times. I am amazed that they've managed to get Debian to do what they have across so many applications, but the problems with multimedia once updates and other packages were installed was sadly predictable. If they can get Snaps or Flatpaks working (it may already work!) then this may help.

  • @johncundiff7075
    @johncundiff707511 ай бұрын

    what a week! GO FOR IT Mr. Barnatt!!

  • @BrekNe-bz2fu
    @BrekNe-bz2fu11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for updating us on RISC-V state.

  • @nepaliman5716
    @nepaliman571611 ай бұрын

    Was looking forward to this video

  • @eriksilveira9356
    @eriksilveira935611 ай бұрын

    Now we need an open source ISA for GPUs

  • @tylerdean980

    @tylerdean980

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't see why they couldn't just use RISC-V

  • @autohmae

    @autohmae

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tylerdean980 NVidea was actually thinking of doing just that ! Some years ago. Then their were talks about buying ARM and I don't know what came first.

  • @Robbie-mw5uu

    @Robbie-mw5uu

    11 ай бұрын

    Nvidia GPUs already use RISC-V

  • @autohmae

    @autohmae

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Robbie-mw5uu looks like the graphics calculations aren't done on RISC-V, it's more like a management engine ?: "Some GPUs include a GPU System Processor (GSP) which can be used to offload GPU initialization and management tasks. This processor is driven by the firmware file /lib/firmware/nvidia/510.39.01/gsp.bin. A few select products currently use GSP by default, and more products will take advantage of GSP in future driver releases. Offloading tasks which were traditionally performed by the driver on the CPU can improve performance due to lower latency access to GPU hardware internals."

  • @BruceHoult

    @BruceHoult

    10 ай бұрын

    @@tylerdean980 I've worked in a team designing a commercial GPU, with team members who knew nVidia and AMD GPU internals very well. There is no reason at all that you could not use RISC-V as the basic ISA for a GPU, with a handful of added instructions and functional units e.g. one for texture interpolation. In fact Think Silicon have done just that. At a trade show they told me it took them three weeks to take the special GPU instructions from their existing GPUs with fully custom ISA and get them added to a RISC-V core and working in an FPGA.

  • @kurtweber162
    @kurtweber16211 ай бұрын

    As always, highly interesting and educational. This looks like a great time o learn new things. Keep up your great work. Evin boneheads like myself find this of great interest.

  • @ratikanta_rath
    @ratikanta_rath10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for supporting open source and taking painstaking efforts by using these hardware primarily.

  • @christlschmid7904
    @christlschmid790411 ай бұрын

    Great show. Very informative.

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney683711 ай бұрын

    That was more interesting than I expected. I do think they will improve a lot in the next couple of years.

  • @joeg3950
    @joeg395011 ай бұрын

    great video! I’m intrigued. I want to see where RISC V develops. Thanks!

  • @horseradishpower9947
    @horseradishpower994711 ай бұрын

    This was a big insight. This technology has really advanced. Thanks for this experiment.

  • @owethumsomi7260
    @owethumsomi726011 ай бұрын

    I appreciate this video and it demonstrating that RISC-V is far more advanced then what people thought and that open source can also be applied to the hardware space Computing is a combination of hardware and software so this is a good thing overall

  • @zbysiu3cytryny
    @zbysiu3cytryny11 ай бұрын

    Quite a nice video and challenge, also nice to see how alternative architectures are coming to the game, like it was with ARM architecture a few years ago :>

  • @SiliconPrairie
    @SiliconPrairie11 ай бұрын

    I'm most intrigued by the "race to the bottom" that's going to come. I want to see SBCs not just in the "you can play real media on this" space, but also the "look what I can do with a single button cell battery" space as well. Emulation/FPGA hybridization intrigues me as well. It would be fascinating to see what hackers might be able to come up with in the future with RV being as open and accessible as it is. To think that the first ~30 years of video gaming could be relived on potentially a single highly optimized SBC with fair pricing is exciting. The MISTer has been a game changer, and imagining a community-driven design that doesn't rely on a hard-to-get board with tons of bloat like the DE-10 makes the future of emulation very bright.

  • @glucosefructose
    @glucosefructose11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for showing us the good and the bad.

  • @ltlk937
    @ltlk93710 ай бұрын

    Nice to see this becoming more and more supported.

  • @tubegor
    @tubegor11 ай бұрын

    Hello Chris! As always very informative and interesting. Such 7 days with new hardware can also be dangerous, because a harmless attempt turns into something serious. My test with RPI 4 started in 2019 and is still running without interruption. That's over 4 years and I see absolutely no reason to end it. Wait a minute! RPI 5 should come next year.🤔

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Cool.

  • @lucasrem

    @lucasrem

    11 ай бұрын

    nobody is willing to update the systems, only for some newly released chips. if it runs, it's good enough ! What system u use that it needs to be updates for RPI 4 ?

  • @deadpixel4106
    @deadpixel410611 ай бұрын

    Interesting video. I just ordered the VisionFive2 😊

  • @MrPufins
    @MrPufins11 ай бұрын

    you know i figured out why i stil love your videos. its very 90's / early 2000's style but done in high def and modern.

  • @dovix
    @dovix11 ай бұрын

    One of these would be enough for me haha 😂 Great video

  • @ChrispyNut
    @ChrispyNut11 ай бұрын

    Good to see the software development coming along. For shirts and giggles, tried the lava render on 4790K. Initially using conservative scheduler (my default), sub 5 seconds, then spotted the scheduler as I looked for core usage, ran again with performance and ... sub 4 seconds. However, I'm mostly looking forward to getting one for HTPC usage because of the dramatically reduced power consumption and therefore heat/noise.

  • @helloimatapir
    @helloimatapir11 ай бұрын

    Great video Chris.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @timstevens3361
    @timstevens33619 ай бұрын

    watched your video on power supply (psu) excellent job !!! could not have been done better.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks. :)

  • @zorintoto1167
    @zorintoto116711 ай бұрын

    Wohoooo cant wait to watch this video !!!!

  • @LeeZhiWei8219
    @LeeZhiWei821911 ай бұрын

    I totally remembered the last installment! The raspberry pi one! Very cool to see another installment of this. EDIT:I mean the original pi week video from 7 yrs back. I haven't watched the 2nd newest installment yet 😢

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    I cannot believe that video was 7 years ago. How time flies!

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo898011 ай бұрын

    It is pretty impressive how RISC-V has progressed. I was looking to the Horse Trail P550 board, but its looking to be vaporware. SBC's are nice, but I want a proper board with PCI-E, discrete GPU, and hopefully someday soon the death of device tree.

  • @leskaighin8903
    @leskaighin890311 ай бұрын

    A work in progress, but what progress. Many thanks.

  • @arjunrao9978
    @arjunrao997811 ай бұрын

    Excellent topic!

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot11 ай бұрын

    It's certainly getting there. Better passive cooling on the faster boards is important, I haven't used active cooling on a desktop PC in years and my hearing appreciates it.

  • @gloiloidn5752
    @gloiloidn575211 ай бұрын

    I was eagerly waiting for this vid and you did not disappoint 😊

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks. :)

  • @seguramlk
    @seguramlk11 ай бұрын

    Go Linux, Go Go 🐧 Your SBC videos are addictive, Chris. Keep'em coming

  • @ScottPlude
    @ScottPlude7 ай бұрын

    I know it's an older video but I found it really enjoyable. I always assumed yubikeys would just work but I learned something new today! Thanks!

  • @erikshahverdyan2748
    @erikshahverdyan274811 ай бұрын

    Great job.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse11 ай бұрын

    It's good to see RISCV gaining traction faster and faster, you suffered so we don't have to ! And it played Startrek TOS your family album !!! lol !....cheers.

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames11 ай бұрын

    Excellent video, as always. It seems that RISC-V is advancing at a decent pace, which is good news.

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana514211 ай бұрын

    What a great and balanced evaluation of RISC operations as of the current moment. Glad to know going into things about security key issues. Would it be worth it at the moment loading up Apache & seeing how server performance is?

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    I feel a "RISC-V Server" video coming on . . .

  • @JOELwindows7
    @JOELwindows711 ай бұрын

    Hey here's an idea. Try *MPV.* This plays media very fast and more efficient than complex VLC. I hope it's compiled to RISC V already. Double click to MPV opens the media, and once the media finished playing, it closes automatically! You might like this way. Very great to quickly examine some lots of medias.

  • @sbrazenor2
    @sbrazenor211 ай бұрын

    I think if computers were slower and internet connections too, it would make people a little more patient. Having grown up in the time of dial-up and loading screens, and buffering; I don't get too antsy when I have a delay while using a computer.

  • @ExplainingComputers

    @ExplainingComputers

    11 ай бұрын

    Totally agreed. Less can be more -- I almost included a segment in this video reflecting on this point, but it was already rather long.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320

    @terrydaktyllus1320

    11 ай бұрын

    I agree, the web is completely broken and overtaken by evil corporations with their own agendas and too much Javascript and data mining. My first connections to the Internet were, like yourself, on a dial-up connection but from a Commodore Amiga A1200 running at 14 MHz with 8 MB RAM and the "iBrowse" web browser. I have always maintained that there had never been a need to encrypt most of the Internet because most of it was public information that anyone could access without logging in with an identity to get to that page - but that was back in the day when people used to make their own web sites, rather than hosting them on the likes of Faecesbook where both the creator and the viewer have to provide identities (and therefore need encryption to not send authentication data in clear text) because that's how Faecesbook makes it money by hoovering up everyone's personal data and therefore needing to know who everyone is. I'd love to see at least part of the Internet go back to a "hobbyist" level of information exchange - I was hoping to see a higher take up of the Gemini protocol which goes back to the times of Gopher-type protocols where it's focused on mostly text exchange on simple markup type pages.

  • @call_me_stan5887

    @call_me_stan5887

    11 ай бұрын

    For people coming from Windows, forcing them to use Linux is a big struggle already - forcing them to use super slow computers with super slow internet connection on top of that would be a tad overkill, don't you think? :) For people already coming from Linux it does not really matter as things oftentimes go crazy in that realm. And going fast is not exactly the thing when it comes to tinkering in Linux.

  • @Robbie-mw5uu

    @Robbie-mw5uu

    11 ай бұрын

    I already waste a lot of my life waiting on stupid advertisements and filling out captcha. Why should I have to wait for a computer to load too? No thanks. If you actually believe in your words, then stop using a modern system capable of watching KZread videos and use your precious slow computers and regain your so-called "patience". The rest of us will continue to be productive.

  • @terrydaktyllus1320

    @terrydaktyllus1320

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Robbie-mw5uu "Why should I have to wait for a computer to load too?" I don't think you should have to do anything, I've never met you. But I do believe that someone who gets frustrated at a slow-loading web page is probably a bit impatient and overly concerned with a "first world problem". There are lots of reasons for using an old computer and I'd argue that someone like me who builds custom Linux installations on old computers knows full well that he probably won't be using the computer for browsing the web anyway - but he may use it for a bit of retro gaming, a music server, a remote terminal to a server, or lots of other things. And your assumption that your productivity is directly proportional to the speed of your computer is, quite frankly, extremely silly.

  • @andy.3407
    @andy.340711 ай бұрын

    So close to being totally functional…. Well done for lasting the week in risc-land.. great adventure

  • @HungarianDerrickRose

    @HungarianDerrickRose

    11 ай бұрын

    And yet so far. This reminds me the old joke about the year of the Linux desktop. Don't get me wrong, I use Linux daily but just can't see these boards (given the price and everything) replacing full fledged desktop PCs anytime soon.

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m
    @user-xr3rb6pn9m11 ай бұрын

    Chris, have you tried to use something like qemu-user-static to run VeraCrypt on RISC-V? Could be a workaround while the software is not recompiled RISC-V

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