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@YuriTereshyn

Жыл бұрын

Ok 👍 👍 👍

@BobbyCommas

Жыл бұрын

You mean the future of trucks 100 miles outside of major cities and no where else. They can’t tow worth a shit. It has enough towing for city slickers and that’s about it.

@lego4virgo

Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyCommas Do you do any towing with a pickup truck?

@kreigerbailey3550

Жыл бұрын

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!

@DS-zl4up

Жыл бұрын

You should have mentioned not to buy this truck if you plan to tow. The electric motors are extremely inefficient. You’ll do better with a Model X.

You guys solved the range problem! Way to go. You should patent that self charging trick

@0hypnotoad0

Жыл бұрын

Too late, Toyota already coined the term "self-charging" for when a hybrid battery is charged (by burning gasoline). But the hype works, there are millions of drivers out there now who think hybrid batteries recharge themselves with magic.

@shiraz1736

Жыл бұрын

@@0hypnotoad0 I think most people actually know what a hybrid is.

@rustlesee

Жыл бұрын

Not sure there is a range problem. It’s 230-320 miles, depending on model and trim. I don’t drive an electric car, but I have power outlet in my garage. And can name two fast charging stations in my tiny little farming town. And probably a dozen more that I’ve seen in the towns around me. I believe it is a non-issue for most people, even on long road trips. Stop for a meal or a coffee, charge up for a half hour, hop back on the road.

@RUSH__fan

Жыл бұрын

@@rustlesee I'm referring to how dramatically the range drops while towing. Depending on the load, range can be cut by more than half. Adding to this problem is that charging stations aren't set up to handle a full size pickup towing a trailer. Can you imagine towing your boat up to the cottage, having to find an available and functioning charging station along the way, and then unhooking your trailer so you can charge.

@rustlesee

Жыл бұрын

@@RUSH__fan, ah. Same happens with gasoline engines though. You fill up more often.. or charge more. Truly, it’s a non-issue in many parts of the country.

That unlimited power gig reminded me of someone I know that when he discovered virtual machines on PC, and saw that you can select how much RAM and how many CPU cores you want the VM to have, he actually thought he could configure the ultimate gaming virtual PC on a $200 PC 🤣

@ErvinTagoe

Жыл бұрын

OmG...I remember trying this too. I had no idea what I was trying to do 🤣🤣🤣

When Jakub said "I did it!!! INFINITE POWER!!" y'all could've edited in some lightning strikes!!! Infinite pooooweerrrrrr!!! Awesome review guys!!!

Wished companies went to highly efficient plug in hybrids before going full electric. Truck drivers typically are going long distances in areas where I can guarantee have no public charging stations yet. Having a plug in hybrid allows the convenience of gas with the efficiency of electric. Like the Rav4 Prime for example.

@MaticTheProto

Жыл бұрын

You mean like Toyota, Mercedes etc.?

@PROutdoors94

Жыл бұрын

@@MaticTheProto Yes, I’m talking pickup trucks specifically. Doesn’t seem like any of the major brands are doing hybrid and going straight electric (Yes Tundras have the iForce Max but it’s focus is power not efficiency)

@MaticTheProto

Жыл бұрын

@@PROutdoors94 maybe they are hard to make into useful hybrids. I mean most hybrid suvs only have up to 60 km range (except for the new Mercedes GLC which will have twice that) and a pickup will need a much bigger battery to get that range

@0hypnotoad0

Жыл бұрын

They don't get the efficiency of full electric. I like PHEVs (or rather, I think REX/range-extenders are a good idea) but they are just plainly not the "best of both worlds." The electric range is pretty minimal, and the actual electric efficiency tends to be a bit lower since the pack voltages are lower. Most people who get PHEVs just wind up buying a fully electric model as their next car because the electric range leaves you wanting more. What I would like to see is Ford ditch the hybrid F150 entirely, and make a version of the Lightning that has a gasoline range extender. Maybe put a smaller 48 kwh "half" battery pack with a 200 km range, and then stick a small 3 cylinder engine/generator in there that can provide about 80 kW of power and boost the range indefinitely. PHEVs kind of suck, they are too much engine and not enough electric, they need to flip that dynamic around, make a vehicle with a decent electric range and then give a basic hybrid functionality for long trips or towing.

@MaticTheProto

Жыл бұрын

@@0hypnotoad0 like the new GLC? 130km ev range, fully electric off road capabilities and 0-100% in 30 minutes for the battery

Great video guys as usual thank you for all the awesome content!

Great review as always, really curious to look into the 4 different models, those are some hefty price differences!

Finally, a Canadian review! First time I've seenl KMs in the range estimation. I have a Lariat 511a scheduled to be built on Oct 23rd. Very excited!

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

Awesome

Great review. Fewer doors. Not less. Thanks! Looking forward to more!

@WobblePizza

Жыл бұрын

Drives me nuts.

Right now this would be the only electric vehicle I'd consider and I'm not in America 😅 ( sometimes I wish I was though or Canada 🙂 ). Why ? ( the pickup that is not the location ). Because of the styling. It still looks like a good honest truck. Not something out of a near future sci fi dystopia or something that puts me to 😴. It's got character

Nice review keep up the good work the straightpipes

Response on the truck is amazing. Very torquey and smooth

@mikekeller5202

Жыл бұрын

Amazing is a too strong of a word.

@danhughes1814

20 күн бұрын

Amazing... Until you try to tow with it

But I’m very impressed that jakub figured out how to charge it with the plug totally awesome

I love your reviews, guys 👌

I'd love to have a lightning, its a nice truck I dont tow things often like at all. Mostly moving around furniture picking up or throwing them out so this truck would be perfect. I'm truly getting tired of gas prices constantly fluctuating up and down itd be nice to not have to pay 100+ dollars every 3 to 4 days filling up the damn truck.

@dwade3202

Жыл бұрын

Youre coming from a good place but you really think buying a 100k ev truck because you hate gas prices makes sense ? With that logic you can buy a 40-50k used truck and have 50k leftover for gas. And electricity prices are gonna go up up up, especially if enough people buy EVs

@supersin22

Жыл бұрын

@@dwade3202 your still gonna pay $100,000s for gas powered limited platinum or raptor models. Gas prices are constantly going up where I am and they don't look like their going down anytime soon. Electricity may go up in a few years but charging up at home will still be cheaper. Plus you knw the whole global warming thing so yeah still going with the lightning.

@yzrippin

Жыл бұрын

@@supersin22 Right but you're talking about how you're using this for furniture so what you need is a base model long bed single cab You can buy a brand new one of those for about 30K or a crewcab for 40k but then you cant have a long bed. Quite simply the batteries aren't there yet to support this being a full time vehicle for most people furthermore once the batteries get to that point you're likely going to have your electricity costing the same as your gas Because most of your electricity is produced by fossil fuels anyway

@dwade3202

Жыл бұрын

@@supersin22 "The richest one percent of the world's population are responsible for more than twice as much carbon pollution as the 3.1 billion people who made up the poorest half of humanity during a critical 25-year period of unprecedented emissions growth." Dont worry too much about what you drive, not like 800kg of batteries is ecological anyway.

@supersin22

Жыл бұрын

@@yzrippin like I said I wouldn't be using it for towing, and furniture is once in awhile like when we move or my wife sees some couch or cabinet she wants online lol. Most if not all of our power come from hydro electricity so not really doing much damage to electricity plus I got kids so crew cab is a must. I'm still going with the lightning. And I dont travel far work from home I just take the kids to school and wife to work at most 80kms a day. So it wouldn't be that much of a strain on the truck.

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Meadowvale Ford! I used to live like 2 mins from that dealership, they sold my family nearly every car we had for the past 20 years. If you talked to a sales rep named Jamie, he's our guy~

We need your photoshop of this as an old Lightning! Just like you described it plus the bed side steps

Should have just made it chargeable from either side.

if the truck's expending energy while charging, it's kinda nuts that it doesn't factor that into its charge time estimate. as no charger is 100% efficient, that truck should've been able to tell that it's not actually gaining any energy.

I have a Lightning Lariat on order for MSRP . My daily commute is 60 miles round trip . I'll plug it in at home overnight and enjoy the torque , silence , simplicity , low maintenance , and never having to pay high gas prices again. After a couple years , it will still be worth what I paid for it because the wait list is years long . It's a no brainer win for me .

@AmorilV

Жыл бұрын

Wish the price difference wasn't so big between the ICE & EV versions. For maintenance you're going to save what, $200/yr in oil changes? You'll still need brakes/tires/etc. As for gas fill-ups it'll still take a few years before you start saving money from not needing gas fill ups. For around town I agree they're great, but on trips I still worry about having to find charging stations and waiting for 40min+ to get charge vs just a couple minutes for regular fill-ups.

As for the screen, all of the low and mid trims have the standard screen as standard and the Mache tablet screen optional, only the tippy top trim only has the tablet

Rivian is the truck I cannot wait for you to review

Little perk to having an EV would be that the sound system isn't having to compete w/ the engine for sound so you probably get a clearer sound and music experience. But ya, the B&O system really is top notch.

The Lighting has more range than my 09’ Ram. Which I averaged 425 kms on a good day.

@S8ER

Жыл бұрын

Is that the rating for yours or what you actually get? As they say mileage may vary…especially with different driving habits.

@therealcdnuser

Жыл бұрын

@@S8ER mixed driving, mostly highway. Actually what i got. Its the old 4 speed. Hugely inefficient. Also costs a small fortune to fill it.

@S8ER

Жыл бұрын

@@therealcdnuser I wouldn’t be so sure the lightning would do better is all I’m saying. You might find it comparable in the end (for range) you of course would save on fuel. 🍻

@therealcdnuser

Жыл бұрын

@@S8ER even if it was less range it would still be worth it as the Ram was costing me $600/month before the gas hike. My daily commute is 1/3rd of the range so winter is not a concern either. I stopped driving and traded it in during the first year of the pandemic for a used Ioniq. But miss having a truck but found i really don’t need it. Part of me still wants the Lighting though.

@0hypnotoad0

Жыл бұрын

My buddy had an old 99' Dakota with a four speed auto, and that transmission must have been full of sand or something, I don't even understand how it could be that inefficient. Used about 18L/100km driving in the city, just ungodly.

Do the batteries take up room under the passenger seat? One of the big things that I like about the current one is you can flip up the seats and you get a huge storage area

3:58. Lmfao 🤣 Jakob should have screamed Eureka after that.

Slick AF transition at the beginning, the truck driving past 5⭐

Love it, they were listening to ATB on the infotainment screen.

I AGREE WITH YOU ! I love F-150s but I do not like that vertical infotaiment display from the Lighting I do love the normal one from the latest F-150, I would take the Hummer EV or the Raptor overall !

@LifeAsDane

Жыл бұрын

XLT model doesn’t have this larger display

I saw a Rivian in Edmonton yesterday. October 6.

Thank you, for the insight that the gas pump with an arrow is trying to tell me which side the fill port is on. After three years with a Mazda 3, that's that one thing I've never understood about the gauge cluster.

"Hey look at how Im charging my F150 lightning" "Oh yeah, Jakub did that back in fall 22'"

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

I accept no responsibility

Can confirm, I've seen a blue Rivian R1 with Ontario plates in Whitby.

3:30 - I'm dying here 🤣🤣🤣

All I see is Hulk Hogans mustache when I look at the lights on the front of the lightning

I’m not buying an ev until they sound like the jetsons spaceships 😂

I saw a Rivian on Hwy 48 ON on Tuesday. Almost drove into the ditch looking at it.

@0hypnotoad0

Жыл бұрын

I saw one on the Ironworkers bridge in Vancouver, BC. I also almost drove into the partition while looking.

3:38 This is the real journalism you don't get from other reviews.👍

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

Hard hitting investigative journalism here

If the price ever comes back down to earth it will be my next truck purchase but it doesnt feel like they will ever be affordable again.

@LifeAsDane

Жыл бұрын

And would have NO value by the time you want to resell. People just don’t want used EVs

I agree on the infotainment. That is the biggest knock to the truck. My 2022 F150 has the best infotainment, blows my Porsche's system away. I love access to the buttons instead of menus, much faster.

You guys just solved the Range anxiety problem! Geniuses LOL !!!

just sold my Platinum Lightning. loved the truck honestly but my biggest issue was range. Without towing...if you even get on it slightly to change lanes, u lose battery so quickly. just not for me for long trips. Still a great truck tho for short commutes!

I do like the normal f150s interior. Horizontal screen looks more fitting

Love the truck, already seen a few driving around my town which is cool but also makes me upset because I’ve had a reservation since the day they announced this truck and I’m still waiting for them to tell me I can place an order

@playerroku4412

Жыл бұрын

Lol wut

@jordangutierrez93

Жыл бұрын

@@playerroku4412 from what I’ve gathered, to own a Lightning right now, you either need to be good friends with someone high up at a Ford dealership, have a car review channel, be very lucky, or just be willing to spend 20-30 over MSRP.

@jasonvuolo2780

Жыл бұрын

@@jordangutierrez93 but but I'm going to save money on gas right around when the batteries take a s*** uv8 guys just don't understand LOL but I am jealous you guys can fill up and go in 2 minutes I'm going to be saving money one day so it's worth the 2 hours sitting in fast charger spot until then haha

@jordangutierrez93

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonvuolo2780 I didn’t really understand what you were saying there. Some periods and commas might make your comment more legible

Yeah I'll wait until the infrastructure matches gas and the specs match the specs of the hybrid version including range and fill up time.

@brad4527

Жыл бұрын

FJB

I only want the base model, to me it’s the best looking without all the light bars and “big screens”. But I’ll get one in like 7 years when they can be sold off a company , Ford needs to rethink their decision with that 🤷🏼‍♂️

Already bought a Mach E and have a gas F150 for work

They should have made the new lightning a supercharged 5.0 single cab f150

The flag came on my (US) Lariat. Immensely privileged to have won the lottery of getting one, especially before they started stripping features because of the supply chain issues. I’ve had it a little over two months now, and it’s possibly the first *anything* I’ve ever bought that’s exceeded every expectation I had for it. BUT the shifter and 15” screen are both spectacularly dumb.

@jipidydoo

Жыл бұрын

I wanted the pro model so much but now it's gonna be around over 50k with all the price adjustments from Ford which is crazy. And the pro model has the 12" screen instead

To those of you saying “but, but, but it can’t tow” - how often do you see an upspec truck with anything in the bed, let alone towing? If these things replace the air-hauling duallies I see around BC then everyone wins. EDIT corrected typo. Also, woo, it’s gone viral (for me, anyway. I never get more than one like and several spam replies so this is the big time. I’m going to start a channel and monetize my brand, brah)

@anthonyantoine9232

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure it varies by region, but around me, I'd say at least half of trucks bigger than half ton are used for towing fairly regularly. It's not every day obviously, but still often enough that it'll matter. High spec half tons are rarely used for towing or hauling, though. They're basically just a giant luxury vehicle.

@zapalskic

Жыл бұрын

My truck is for towing, my car is not.

@joseph_8486

Жыл бұрын

Come to Texas you will see trucks actually used how they were intended. Not sure about Austin though, they will be the hippies buying Lightnings

@S8ER

Жыл бұрын

I tow with my Hellcat Durango (not a truck but I think it counts as upspec). 🤷

@djorge006

Жыл бұрын

Sure but It won't be hitting the work truck market anytime soon (contractors, farmers, ranchers, fire departments, and even police departments) Which Ford makes an absolute killing on. Good for the average Joe who doesn't actually do any trucking though.

You need to do a drive in the F150 SS

Seen a rivian park in a person's driveway i was shocked in Mississauga.

I just love the ending music

You guys havent seen Rivians in Canada? I saw an R1T in my neighbourhood in Mississauga over the summer. I guess it could've been from the states since were only like an hour from the border.

So... can I run power toold directly from the truck's outlet? That's a huge plus.

That 0:18 transition 👌

Great video and thanks for the tidbits, but what's the point of charging your truck with your truck? Does that method actually work? Where is it drawing additional power if you're nearing 0% of range?

Jacob was thinking of a rube goldberg machine

Anything with wheels and a motor I’m in!

I would commute to work in this. But, it needs a flame decal, or racing stripe.

Jacob needs to do a talking watches on Hodinkee

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

I did a grey nato podcast with James

Yes, they don't ship them with the US flag into Canada. And ya, I don't like the big tablet console, which is why I am glad I am getting the XLT with the regular console

5:10 I heard that Ford did sign a deal for Tesla to use their superchargers in 2024. I think the fake charger on the right is a teaser for an additional port compatible to Tesla superchargers. It makes sense because that area is the best location for a Tesla charge port because the charge port on the left side can hog two parking spots for supercharging parking lot (there is a video about this if you don't understand what I am saying here). If Tesla allows Ford to do this, then that will be great for every F150 lightning and Mustang Mach-E owners because they will not be a problem at all to the supercharging network.

The Flag if the lighting bolt is an American thing I have a lariat er in silver identical to the truck you tested and mine has the American flag with lighting bolt. I agree that the the 12 in screen is better than the 15in screen.

My wife has a Mach-e GT and I just picked up my Lightning Lariat ER yesterday, so I guess we picked both! Terrific vehicles

1.57M followers with 166k Views. RIP Straight Pipes!

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

Rip going viral. Only consistency for us 😎

You better test it hauling a load to see if it will..

TO MUCH $$$$$ this truck is over 100k! not worth the money they want. It can't tow and has not been out long enough for any real reviews on durability. How long will the battery last? how much for a replacement battery? will I need to replace my brakes more due to the extra weight the truck has. I'll wait till 2035 thanks until then I'll drive my 2022 Ram Sport great review 👍

New idea for the cup holder test get a XL Timmy’s then rip through cliché corner see how she holds up 😂

As a Volvo recharge owner, I feel attacked 😂

Shame they comprised dart capacity. Removal of the “dart nookie” is a serious deal breaker

👏👏👏 HAPPY FRIDAY 👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️

Nothing like the lightnings range dropping to half when towing half its capacity, or the rivians and hummer evs that have been dead on the road from just shutting themselves down to make for a great future 👍

@jeanmichaelarchbold4446

Жыл бұрын

It is too early in ev development to try trucks or commercial cars.

My question is how long do these batteries last. & how much are they gonna charge to replace them when they need to.

@0hypnotoad0

Жыл бұрын

8 year (or) 150,000km warranty. If the first Teslas are anything to go by, the batteries will usually last a lot longer than than. I wouldn't bother with a dealership replacement, if you have a battery issue you need to go to a third party who rebuilds battery packs, they'll do it for a few thousand bucks. Replacing an entire battery pack just because of one or two bad cells doesn't really make much sense, but that's what dealerships will try to do because they don't know how to fix anything on a component-level.

Series idea: how beginners should begin to use tracks.

I don't need a next vehicle. I have a Tacoma, they're the last vehicle you'll need to buy if you take care of them 🤣

they charged the truck, with the truck amazing

F150 lightning “cannibalizing”.

I would love to see an off-road video

We do have rivians here in Vancouver and Victoria

@TheStraightPipes

Жыл бұрын

USA plates tho

It is good that you did not get a short circuit 😅

Looks good I’m waiting to see what dodge is gonna come out with

@jasonvuolo2780

Жыл бұрын

They'll come out with day one Factory recall issues that's for sure

Can you do the Rivian next ?

51k before taxes, not interested. But thank you for review!

FYI: $60,000 , 400 EPA range & fast charging or kiss off!

Strap solar panels to the roof of the truck and the trailer your pulling and call it a day!

@snakeeyes9246

Жыл бұрын

You're*

@hawkboy000

Жыл бұрын

@Frugal Family Living minus all the extra weight from the panels

@73av8r5

Жыл бұрын

Just make a solar tonneau cover. 👍🏻

@anthony8022

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t work at all.

I'm very impressed with this car. I can tow a small trailer with an incredible 50 miles range. So impressive

They should do the MDX type s

Does it make sense to have the body of the motor, and connectors, exposed .. ? I'd think up here in the Northeast (or Michigan!) the underside would look a lot different after a decade of road salt. :/

@spacebound1969

Жыл бұрын

They factor in for it, most of if not all of those components are cast aluminum or painted.

Even the base model is too expensive now. A lot of people pointed out as a daily commute, if you have the money to buy it, the truck ride and EV ability is awesome. Charge at home and done. But for long distance and/or towing, it is a nightmare due to several factors.

@MaticTheProto

Жыл бұрын

I will never understand why Americans buy these as dailys

@specialperson170

Жыл бұрын

It literally cant tow more than 100 miles which is just so awful

saw a lightning last night and made me want to kms

There are R1Ts, Hummer EVs, and Lucid Airs in Vancouver…

Independent like the new raptor, I thought it was linked trailing axle?

Future? 😄 these are already history.

@mav4516

Жыл бұрын

...ha...haaaaaa.......

Saw a review comparison of Lightning Pro (cheapest) it had the American flag lightning bolt badge on the tailgate. Only a wishful guy would try to charge the Lightning on itself, but it would be interesting to see how long it would take to deplete the battery. Some electricity is lost in the conversion up and down and to run the electronics controlling the process. BTW what's the HP & Torq on the Raptor. The USA Lariat gets the lightning bolt and flag.

It's a shame they don't offer it in a two seat regular cab. Would be nice to both have electric AND a long bed so you can fit bigger items. If you are only going to get that tiny little bed, you might as well buy a Honda Civic. It just goes to show that in 2023, Pickup Trucks are for posturing, not for hauling or getting work done. If you work out of your truck, you'd probably be better off getting the E-Transit van, except Ford hamstrung it by giving it a tiny little battery resulting in half the range of the F-150 Lightning.

Great for commuting around town, however If you plan on towing with this truck, you will be disappointed.

@realemmyrossum

Жыл бұрын

Which is why trucks make zero sense for most people that buy trucks. No one consistently tows anything

i find it weird that ford isn't marketing the crap out of this - other than the light bars on the front and rear you would think this is just a regular F150 - they should have giant lighting bolts on the rear end and tailgate and stuff like the raptor

@deyesed

Жыл бұрын

They probably did extensive focus groups and research on current owners.

RIP THE PAST! The frunk is the killer app on these - better than Rivian. The extra low load height and the drainable cooler in it - pull up to the tailgate/beach/lake with a frunk full of ice and drinks and pop the hood!

Hows the range? Towing range?