Rio Ferdinand: How England Can Win | EURO 2024
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Rio Ferdinand joins Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer to explain why his England team of Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes and Rooney could never work together.
Did club rivalries destroy England’s Golden Generation? And if a teenager wins the Euros final for his country will it be Kobbie Mainoo or Lamine Yamal?
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00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Rio’s Thoughts On EURO 2024
11:15 - Blanking Out The Noise
16:35 - Most Impressive Player
18:00 - The Defensive Worry Before The Start
18:45 - Englands Tactics Change
20:20 - The Best Team This Tournament
23:50 - How Good Is Yamine Lamal?
24:45 - How Do England Deal With Spains Wingers
27:00 - Busquets Story
28:45 - Life As A Defender Now
31:40 - Player Of The Tournament
32:45 - That Watkins Moment
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The more you listen to Sir Alex's players talking about football, the more of a genius he looks like
@kippsguitar6539
Ай бұрын
Yes a real Einstein
@seniorvespa2743
Ай бұрын
You are just a person who has never made it in life and is now trying to get a sense of self by judging others that have made it and are still making the most of what life has to offer. Good luck....... & keep watching TV on your couch.
@briandean435
Ай бұрын
Sounds like
@Jamesadams210
Ай бұрын
@@kippsguitar6539oh dear. A guitar player with 147 subscribers having the audacity to comment on a guy from the shipyards in Scotland making it to the very top of English football and is considered one of if not the best. Strange outlook baldy !!
@moodswinggaming2972
Ай бұрын
@@seniorvespa2743 When people are moved to big emotions they usually tell everyone a lot more about themselves than they realise. Like you just did. Glorious projection there.
I dunno what it is, but every time I listen to Rio, I feel I could listen to him forever. Really good guest
I was born in the sixties. This podcast has provided the best analysis I've ever seen in all my years of watching tournaments. Great work.
@Baldrick_dogsbody
Ай бұрын
@@the_agemanchester8387 You lier. Dickie davis disagrees.
@alexanderhare1921
Ай бұрын
Cmon mark goldbridge is better
@shanky1751
Ай бұрын
You are ancient
@xl51956
Ай бұрын
How much are they paying you then mate !??😊
@Muzzaa
Ай бұрын
That lead paint is getting to you mate
best edition so far. Rio is a natural
"We didn't have someone like Garath that could knit us together".... what a genuinely powerful and profound statement. For all his criticism, he has shown he can slowly develop a team and use the strength of his bench (albeit a bit too late into games).
@welchit
Ай бұрын
Tosh
@treble20
Ай бұрын
Deserves credit for the substitutions he has made (Gareth)? He only made the substitutions when they were in a desperate situation. I think Rio has been sniffing some stuff.
@OmarJames
27 күн бұрын
@@treble20 You right. Random youtube commenter knows more than United legend and arguably greatest CB in England history. Thanks treble20, I feel enlightened now
@treble20
27 күн бұрын
@@OmarJames Did Southgate win anything? I rest my case.
@lethalchocobo1886
27 күн бұрын
That aged like milk.
As a Swiss I have to say this was awesome. Spain will be tough, but I strongly believe that the longer the game goes on, the chance to win will increase for England. Also very important... England's bench is stronger than Spains. So my neutral tip will be 1:1 after 90 and the winning goal by Cole Palmer in extension. It's written in the stars...😉🤣🤣
@royalhero4608
Ай бұрын
I agree, if we can just survive the initial relentless attacks our chances will go up. I'm confident if it goes to penalties, and as an England fan it is astounding to even say such a thing, but this team is different now
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
Ай бұрын
@@royalhero4608 Yeah if after 70 mins Watkins comes on Spain will be terrified
@sol2701
Ай бұрын
Good point - but also think reason we looked better against the Swiss in parts ( mainly subs ect ) And then the Dutch for first 35min - reasons why was they came at us , so we have space and no low blocks, that’s my hood with Spain 🇪🇸- the space will be better for the type of players we have , 50/50 thou 😕🔥 come on England 🏴 🔥🔥🔥🤩
@emerysnap
Ай бұрын
Extension time? Very Swiss 😅
@ronny-lb1cr
Ай бұрын
My tip Southgate will sh*t his pants and England will win it the Real Madrid way. 🚍
I like Rio's honesty about his generation....
@issyjas3309
Ай бұрын
Yeah but he’s got a point , we were good but there were some truly outstanding international teams. France, Brazil, Holland , Germany , they were chock full of world class players . It was the golden age of football that period from around 96 for 10 years was something else
@andrekb37
Ай бұрын
@@issyjas3309 yes.... But his point is still valid and most pertinent.... England were never a team, therefore they couldn't compete... And that was the real issue.... All those team were competitive against each other... You can't control the players another team have but you could control your team harmony. To talk about others teams would be a cop out, I'm glad he didn't do that... England had the players to compete but couldn't because they were never a TEAM... And was more the issue than the players the other teams had.
@siddharthreddiar3353
Ай бұрын
@@issyjas3309Nah but it's not like England were blowing teams away. Like he said teams like Belarus who had semi professionals were matching England
@MikusMusik
Ай бұрын
Yes ...and love his energy...wish he did more punditry.
@C33Fernandez
Ай бұрын
@@andrekb37 @issyjas3309 The sheer amount of issues, no matter how slight, must be an overarching problem. You can make up for 1 or 2 short-comings, but it's impossible to make up for 4 or 5.
That “golden generation” really were petty and pathetic when it came to club rivalries. What a waste of a potentially great England team.
@GK123
Ай бұрын
No one mentions the obvious with that group of players. Lack of pace, skill, flair. Which is necessary to break down teams in international football.
@DhandleyThe
Ай бұрын
Agreed. They don’t deserve the golden generation tag. Put club before country 🧐
@ryanergo754
Ай бұрын
@@DhandleyTheHistory of DA England.
@ljm.jft9722
Ай бұрын
Club over country any day how it should be
@DuranStonnell
Ай бұрын
Sad thing is a lot of them players in folders generation came from West Ham academy and should have all got along , carrick Rio joey cole Defoe Lampar Johnson and john terry was there also as a kid before going Chelsea
People focus a lot, when criticising Gareth Southgate, on his in-game decision making. And whatever the validity of that criticism might or might not be, Gareth has been able to cultivate a great national team culture within a diverse group of English players and this has clearly helped him achieve greater success than anyone before him. So, whatever negative feelings some may have about Gareth Southgate, everyone should recognise that the success that England have had in tournament football under Southgate's leadership cannot be denied. Good luck doesn't happen tournament after tournament. How England have got to another final has happened because both England starters and substitutes alike share the same beliefs and ideals. And fostering such an exceptional team culture where there was none before is credit to the manager and his staff including all the players too. Really proud of all those involved. Now come on England! Give Spain a good fight tomorrow! 🏴 ⚽ 🇬🇧
@TurboGomez
Ай бұрын
Love this comment ❤ I'm not reading any others after this one as want to keep on a positive note!! Let's go England!! 🏴
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh
Ай бұрын
Pure luck. Easy run to this point and the play was diabolical. They haven't got a hope in hell tomorrow, and I actually want Spain to win. At least they deserve it. England are shite and they always will be until they change the attitude and get a proper manager in.
@spudgreg
Ай бұрын
He’s got to the final by pure fluke again
@TurboGomez
Ай бұрын
@@LukeSkywalker-io2bh You do you Luke well done for your educated take. You ain't a real fan anyway your not needed. I'm sure there's a Hollyoaks omnibus you can watch instead 🤣🤣
@C33Fernandez
Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. The recent criticism highlights entitlement in the English fans, and constantly taking things for granted, which is typical. They will always fail to understand the underlying work and fundamentals, often instead succumbing to tunnel vision on "game management" and "substitutions" - These are things you literally can't use effectively without the togetherness, belief and game-ready mentality from the entire squad.
What Rio descirbes in the beginning, is maybe one huge reason, why some great generations of english football players never won anything. And we (Germany) won a lot. Out national teams often were known for great team chemistry, despite the rivalries of clubs in the Bundesliga. We often had strong "clusters" of Bayern, Dortmund, Hamburg or Mönchen-Gladbach players, but they were able to connect and build friendships when spending time with the national team. Whatever you say about Southgates way of football (me: atrocious!), he has formed a strong, resilient groupe. Who believes at every second of a game, that they can still turn things around and win the game. Spain plays way better football. But England has the heart to win it this time finally. Go Enland!
@TurboGomez
Ай бұрын
Also Germany were always a team that knew how to win important games no matter how they were playing. A lot of this came down to having the right mentality, also I think they were very unlucky against Spain this year and had some good chances.
@MormanNinja
Ай бұрын
Only 3 of your starting 11 from 2014 didn’t play for Bayern, hardly a similar situation.
@OGItachii
Ай бұрын
@@MormanNinjayou realise they have won 4 world cups and 3 euro's... not just 2014 melt. His point is right.
@feynman6625
Ай бұрын
Spain doesn't have heart? Are we not passionate?
Mainoo is surreal. Not hyping him..he is literally showing his football I.Q..his off ball movement and involvement all over the pitch. Man u need to build around him..I'm talking in 3 seasons time mainoo will be top 5 In the world
@kippsguitar6539
Ай бұрын
Literally? Are you sure?
@retroafro1
Ай бұрын
@@kippsguitar6539 must be scouse
@haydndavies2475
Ай бұрын
He is showing his pedigree this tournament and has been one of our best players. A Good player and a couple more seasons of learning and he may be great. I'd have him in the liverpool team any day.
@johnny9092
Ай бұрын
He is just a young version of Thomas Partey, remember when burst onto the scene he was the same. Ofcourse not on his level yet but he will get there probably surpass him if he does not get complacent. He is controlling games now which is unreal, he will eventually need to add a bit of goals to his game to get to that superstar level
@kadsr859
Ай бұрын
So thats why he's 131 in passing....
I feel like too many people overlooking how good Fabian Ruiz has been. Yes, i think Rodri should get player of the tournament but then it's Ruiz/Yamal
Rio a Great man ! Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Cole Palmer was the game-changer. Without him no assist, no win, no final and got no mention. WTF...
@dazred1
Ай бұрын
Chelsea fans love glazing Palmer. He made a simple pass forward 😂😂 Watkins did 90% of the work for that goal, just let him have his moment.
@shadow_realm47
Ай бұрын
@@dazred1 he's the only one who passes forward in the halfspace, 6 games of Phoden.
@Bert-lw1ot
Ай бұрын
It was a basic pass he’d get right 99 times out of 100, stop going over the top
@selo1153
Ай бұрын
Which was harder to execute, the pass or the goal?
@joshhamer5076
Ай бұрын
@@dazred1 it was both watkins and palmer like you said, but everytime palmer comes on there a sense that hes going break the defense, he seems like the only one that wanted to pass fowards and be positive sometimes
I think all the hate has been aimed at Southgate and obviously taking some of the pressure off the squad. It will be interesting to see after the final win or lose if Southgate leaves. Who will take it on. People shit on him but the man has got England consistently into the later stages of a tournament. People forget the chaos before him and all the hurt.
@ikeze
Ай бұрын
I really don’t get the dislike towards Gareth. There was a time when no English manager was good enough for the English team. No finals showing since 66 and he’s a loser? Sir Bobby (RIP) was knighted for getting his team into the semis! What a world.
What a wonderful man Rio is. And Lineker very skilfully presented the podcast in a way that let Rio’s talents shine. The most enjoyable podcast so far.
The Beckham hate was horrendous. I know what he’s saying about the rivalry between clubs at that time hindered the England team. Even us as fans at his era. I remember being at an event somewhere when I was as still in primary school I got called on to the stage not long after Beckham was sent of against Argentina. I was asked what I thought if it and I said “I don’t like him As I’m an Arsenal fan and he plays for Man United”. Obviously I completely admire and love Beckham now but i do agree in that period of time the rivalry between fans ruined the England’s team chances.
@dardobartoli
Ай бұрын
And look what Hoddle did to Beckham, completely unforgiveable. And I don't care for Beckham either, but no manager should do/say what he did, and any lesser person could have been ruined.
@user-rq8si4eu1s
Ай бұрын
Beckham was like petulant child with that kick to Simone . He deserved stick we could won that tournament
@The_Rizz_Lord_
Ай бұрын
I had a Beckham effigy on top of my car with a sign saying 'burn David Beckham'. 'Horn if you agree'. Back then. The car was a 1989 Ford escort which I had for many years. My first car.
@zakzanotti5868
Ай бұрын
@@The_Rizz_Lord_ you and most of the country mate but we learn from our mistakes.
@jimb9063
Ай бұрын
Non Premier League team fan, so looking from the outside it seems team bias comes into play when Prem fans talk about England team selection. Some folk can then switch that off and get behind players they usually don't like, some find it more difficult. If/when something goes wrong, the bias and possible hate comes back out in the form of the blame that we've seen. Not immune from this sort of BS myself. When England have got knocked out in previous tournaments, I can disassociate myself by thinking we get the Prem shoved down our throats and told how wonderful it is, but the only time I care about these players they're bloody useless!
The characters were so strong in Rio's generation.... All captains.... They just couldn't switch off the club rivalry.... I could imagine that Stevie&carra were super cold to Man utd players
@joewhite22
Ай бұрын
Southgate is getting credit here for the way he's galvanised the players but to be honest, the players don't have that same club rivalry now so it must be a bit easier for them to get along.
@mnb9162
Ай бұрын
@@joewhite22 Yeh much easier.... Kobbie, Saka, Foden.... These guys are smiling youts... Stevie, Lampard, Terry etc were killers... They bled for their position and club...... All-time great Prem-era
@GIBBO4182
Ай бұрын
@@joewhite22god forbid Southgate get credit for anything
@joewhite22
Ай бұрын
@@mnb9162 Not sure how much difference it even made anyway compared to other factors. If England had easier draws during the Sven era they'd have made at least one SF appearance. If they had a keeper as good as Pickford, again they'd probably have got through at least one of their QF pen shootouts. Unlucky at times as well i.e. Rooney getting injured, the sending off, disallowed Campbell goal....the sort of things that aren't plaguing Southgate.
@joewhite22
Ай бұрын
@@GIBBO4182 He has created a good spirit within the camp, I'll give him that and they look like they enjoy playing for him. But compared to other managers, definitely very fortunate.
The Busquets story at 27.00 was brilliant. Not many give him his flowers even now despite his wonderful career and achievements. Forever reminds of Vicente Del Bosque's now famous quote about him, “You watch the game, you don't see Busquets. You watch Busquets, you see the whole game.”
@ZacharyShahan
Ай бұрын
That’s brilliant
@robertgannon-cx2mm
Ай бұрын
The greatest holding midfielder of his generation, and one of the greatest ever!!!
thank you lads! it was the most interesting football podcast or youtube talk, i've been listened. i've been england fan for all my youth and my heart was broken :D i got away from football, but listening to this talk, i found many answers.. Gary and Alan, you have been my heroes, but Rio just popped into superman cape. I will break my grudge against England and hope for England's win. Spain is good, but i want this England squad lift the trophy. Good luck lads!
One of the best episodes and Rio’s charisma and the way he conducts himself is unmatched ❤
Thank you for keeping it real Rio and for speaking out in support of Gareth, love all your videos and podcast!
_This_ is why I think people who think Southgate is a bad manager/not good enough for England don't know what they're talking about. The underpinning reason England have done so well recently isn't just because the players are improved over older generations (and you could argue, in some ways, many are not), it's a blend of technically gifted players and a manager who knows how to help them form a _team!_ None of our previous managers in the last 20-30 years managed it to the same level GS has. This is something that we may go on to miss when he leaves, mark my words. And I guarantee that his history as a player is a big part of that. You don't necessarily get that with a big name star manager. GS has elevated England and I just roll my eyes whenever I hear someone saying he needs to go. He's the best manager for England in my lifetime (which started with Bobby Robson who, along with Venables, did pretty well with a decent group of players but nothing close to what GS has achieved; sustained later stage tournament performance over 8 years, including _two_ finals!). Yes, the technical ability of English players has improved. The funny thing is, what most people still forget is that Southgate has been involved heavily in _that_ project as well! He deserves success and I hope he achieves it tomorrow. And we will miss him when he's gone.
@thrilla72
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I've spent years defending him and you put it so well. It might be because I have coached a team for a few years, it made me appreciate what managers may go through
@EmuGamesMaster
Ай бұрын
If you look at past managers for England they normally get to the Quarter finals and Semi’s on the odd occasion so its nothing new. he has gone 1 step further but still hasnt won anything or got their by beating the TOP Teams. Sunday will show you what he is really made of and eont be surprised if we get walloped as i wont be.
@bushidobrown6742
Ай бұрын
Southgate’s experiment have failed - Trent in the midfield - Gallagher coming in instead of Mainoo - Trippier on the left - Foden on the left - Leaving Watkins on the bench All of these things were apparent to “fans” and England only made progress when these failings were stopped
@thrilla72
Ай бұрын
@@EmuGamesMaster Then the issue isn't the manager...the players just aren't as good or better than the top nations
@TurboGomez
Ай бұрын
@@bushidobrown6742 You say all this but fans can't even agree universally on the starting line up everyone has a better idea.
What a way to wake up ! Rio is such a great analyst and his stories are fantastic……thanks guys for everything during Euro 24 🙌🏻👏🏻♥️🏴
Thanks Guys. One of the most insightful podcast episodes in recent years. Rio's thoughts on England's past squads at major tournaments explains a lot. The tension between club and country writ large demonstrates what a great job Southgate has done. Cheers!
@garyowen4112
Ай бұрын
plus we never got much luck with the draw
@marklloyd7385
Ай бұрын
@@garyowen4112 In a tournament you get whoever you get. A team that is together has a better chance of success than one than is splintered on club lines. Gerrard and Lampard for example...That for me was Rio's point.😎
Really enjoyed this. Interesting to hear Rios comments about clicks in the England teams when he played, I think that explains a lot of the missed opportunities England teams had.
Listening to this interview with Rio Ferdinand Is An Insight into The Unseen Professionalism of Football League Team Manager Experience. 👍👏👏
“OMG ALAN SHEARER EATS BROCCOLI ”
Great chat , guys I'm so gonna miss this x
Let's go England, great content this tournament
Loving this podcast. You guys should really continue this post the euros. Go in depth of all aspects of football.... England campaigns from 98 until now, in depth views on evolving tactics of different clubs overtime, etc. etc. get the right people in as you are with this format. This is a footballing media goldmine
Gary, Rio, Alan - great insight into the England set up for an England fan stretching back to my memories of Mexico 86 thru to now 👌
Hoddle should never have been fired, excellent coach.
3 Legends great to see Rio on the channel “”COME ON ENGLAND” Please lift that damn cup. 2-1 to the three lions
Bloody brilliant. Rio. Amazing. I am 51, Italia 90 was always the defining moment for me but I honestly have fallen in love with this tournament. The pods, the Germans as hosts, the fans, the football wasn't great to begin but it's grown. Amazing. Embrace it.. It's coming home!
@tastewithjase
Ай бұрын
PS Rio really knows his shit
This podcast is getting better. More actual conversation, analysis and observations. Well done.
Rio's opinion on Gareth creating a group! (Which he never had) Speaks VOLUMES for what assets Gareth has as a manager ✌️❤️
@kyledurrant8452
Ай бұрын
That's his only asset though, tactically he is dry, Slow to react and relies on his individuals to show up. So really thank goodness he can bring a team together and thank goodness they are quality enough players to do it on their own without the wrong tactics given from Southgate.
@lokizeme7342
Ай бұрын
@kyledurrant8452 good point m8 👍✌️
@ushmush4074
Ай бұрын
What makes you think Gareth did that?
@lokizeme7342
Ай бұрын
@ushmush4074 are you not aware of Gareths ENTIRE ethos?? U always get one ✌️
@ushmush4074
Ай бұрын
@lokizeme7342 genuinely no idea on his ethos. Watch most games and it is impossible to tell!
Great pod lads. The issue of a lack of No9's in English football, and maybe even European football is due to the influence (and greatness over a long period of time) of Messi and Ronaldo. Clubs, fans, academy's, and even the media all prioritise that type of player - attacking forwards / wings who can get you 25+ goals a season - and every young player and kid wants to be Mbappe, Vini Jr, Bellingham, Lamal.
You gotta luv Rio for his honesty, knowledge & sincerity & he just keeps giving to anyone who needs. The word superstar is so easily cast around on people who are mediocre. Rio is genuine superstar.
Another great episode thanks again for that ! Love Rio, been following his content on UEFA during Euro but also before on his channel Rio Ferdinand present Five. What a man and a player !
Football is being killed by the lack of physicality, diving, VAR and boring slow and sideways play.
So right Rio, I was in Dusseldorf 3 years ago on a road trip from Paris with my German Colleague. Very trendy and cool neighbourhood. Fashion houses too.
Love the show! I look forward to every episode. Wonderful personalities Alan and Gary, great insights, superb dynamic. I absolutely love it. Thank you, and please keep up the great work.
This is the best episode yet lads. The way Rio talks/thinks about football is such a pleasure to listen to, what an easy listen!
Yaaaasssssss!! What a build up. Been great company through the tourney. Let's GO lads! 🔥💪❤️🏴
Hope Rio was drinking the quality, strong, German beers. Some of the best in the world. The Rest is Beer is needed.
What a great watch, fascinating to hear Rio talk about the Golden Generation and how club rivalry got in the way.
Great to see Rio i definitely agree that Gareth has brought unity to the England team. Literally hoping it's our moment. Looking forward to co commentary with Alan for the final i didn't expect that but I'm very happy. Come on England! 🏴⚽
Rio admitting that the Golden Generation wasn't so golden was honest. Great players, no team. The manager should also spot divisions within the camp and quell them imo. But, this England seems more united than ever before and that for me is why they have a chance.
The wolfpack of podcasts welcomes Rio Ferdinand!!! Awesome ❤❤❤
@sratus
Ай бұрын
'wolfpack of podcasts' - what?
@Nickelodeon81
Ай бұрын
@@sratus I think he meant rat pack...
That was fun, enjoyed v.much, pre final weekend buzz is on!
Great to get an insight of the Golden Generations downfalls. Such a shame they didn’t gel as we all thought they could go on and win something. We knew Capello’s wasn’t a happy camp. Sven for me wasn’t brave enough and Rio confirms that with withholding his forward drive. Come on England Sunday 14th, bring it home 🏴
Rio is what's england legends should be like. Enjoy the game with fans
@jayb8298
Ай бұрын
Really?..lol..go check his past...
@sratus
Ай бұрын
Is Rio Ferdinand an 'England legend'? Don't think so.
Love hearing rio in this sort of setting. My favourite ever centre back
this is brilliant to listen to. former elite pros and great minds chopping it up. cant wait for the game.
Spain 🇪🇸 well deserved winners throughout this tournament 🏆
100% agree with Rio, Southgate has built a great team spirit with England !!!!!
@ushmush4074
Ай бұрын
I couldn't disagree more. There is 0 evidence to suggest it has anything to do with the manager.
@stuartscott1679
Ай бұрын
A good team is the combination of managers imput and player imput Southgate definitely is asking the senior players to contribute ideas.
Frankly, Spain is the best performing team and most formidable opponent England could have confronted. Two silver medals in a row would be daunting and heart-breaking but it would presumably occur.
@Ludydobry
Ай бұрын
2/2 back to back final losses, now thats a record you dont want to have 🤣
@Mr.Monta77
Ай бұрын
Football is so unpredictable and you can never tell. Like United got lucky against City in the FA cup. England has a very good chance to win. Especially if it goes to pens.
@rattyfatty246
Ай бұрын
England has the best defense. Spain won't score against England. We're winning it. IT'S COMING HOME
@Mr.Monta77
Ай бұрын
@@rattyfatty246 I love optimist. Pray to the God of Football you are right.
@rattyfatty246
Ай бұрын
@Mr.Monta77 I am mate. Just watch tomorrow we win our first euro.
Love this podcast the last few weeks! Come on England bring it home 🏴🏆
that was one of the best TRIF podcasts 👍,so interesting to hear Rio and his insights on 🏴⚽️,from his time to now and his career at man utd
Come on England.
@user-kx3jb2dn3l
Ай бұрын
🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴❤❤❤❤❤
Rio really puts a spotlight as to why the "golden generation ⭐" failed to deliver. Regardless of what many might think about Southgate's tactics, the fact that he has actually developed a team/squad mentality, is the reason for their progress in tournaments. Players win you games but a TEAM wins you trophies 🏆
@davidkelly790
26 күн бұрын
Southgate has also been fortunate with the draws. Just look at his record against the top teams, he has failed time and time again when he plays the better teams. It's very easy to argue that he has achieved the bare minimum considering the talent available. I personally think that if England get a top coach you'll win the next world cup or euros, someone like Klopp for example would be far more likely to win a trophy than Southgate.
@doubleophysiquecreation1525
26 күн бұрын
@@davidkelly790 - people try to rightly or wrongly, discredit Southgate because of the "lucky" routes to the final. What most seem to forget is that past English managers also lost to the "elite" nations in tournaments but ALSO lost to teams like Iceland, didn't get out the group or even qualify for the tournament. Southgate made England into a tournament team and this is why, despite the play style, he had a good tournament record because he copied the Didier Deschamps playbook 📖 Even though I think England need to go in a new direction, it's mainly because Southgate feels he's given it his all. I do think it's ridiculous people are discrediting what he has achieved when more talented England teams didn't do better. Only one team can win and Spain, before 2008 were like England in not winning tournaments despite their player ability. It's not impossible for England to get Klopp but I doubt it because he left Liverpool BECAUSE of the pressure toll it took on him. So if Klopp is out, what other top manager is there that wants the job and will win England a trophy? That's now the expectation for England as this is the level that Southgate has set. Southgate is not an elite manager in terms of managing matches at the trophy winning stage, but he is at everything else in terms of progressing through a tournament, getting the team to want to play for England and getting the fans to believe in the team again. I'm Scottish so I don't support England but what Southgate has done is incredible because for the first time in my lifetime (I'm almost 41) I thought England would actually win an international tournament! What England need now is to play as a team (rather than as individuals) and have an ENGLAND way of playing/identity so when England players get together, they know what they are meant to do on the field. As I said in my initial comment, "a TEAM" wins you trophies and England have never, in modern history had the best TEAM in terms of cohesion and play style.
@davidkelly790
26 күн бұрын
@@doubleophysiquecreation1525 One manager lost to Iceland. England have, in the main, been knocked out by top teams. It's a combination of fortunate draws and the consistency in beating teams that you have better players than. It's not much deeper than that. It's not Southagtes fault that he's been drawn against poorer sides. The comparison to Deschamps is an interesting one, his teams played free flowing football until recently where he has moved far more defensively (or "controlled" as a lot of people refer to it). It's a trend in football really which has made the vast majority of top level football really boring to watch in my opinion. The difference is that Deschamps achieved more and actually won a trophy of course. I'm not discrediting Southgate, I credited him for having a team that consistently perform. But the same applies on the other side that because he beats the teams that they should beat that he is a great manager, the truth is that he is an alright manager who has benefitted from fortunate circumstances. Some of the hate that he gets it's crazy but some of the praise that he gets it's way over the top. I'd say it's a 7 out of 10 in terms of his performance. I'm scottish as well btw. We have similar with Clarke where we play boring football, as Clarke is risk averse. It's worked to a degree as we have qualified for two tournaments when we hadn't done that since 1998. But then we have been humiliated when we got there without having the guts to play on the front foot. Many fans, myself included, want him replaced as we feel that we should look to push on to achieve better as negative football can take you so far and attacking football wins out more times than not (not always, but usually). There are parallels between the two just with different levels of talent / aspiration involved.
Absolutely top pod....Rio is such a likable guy with a wealth of knowledge
Rio's insight in how Gareth has united the team was awesome. I just assumed that if you play for England, your club rivalry stays at home. Clearly, that was not the case,...and most likely why we haven't won anything since 1966.
Ollie watkins should be a legend if we win the cup. Because of his goal we are in the final. Sure, palmer provided the assist, but any other player could have easily missed the goal. Imagine a baby faced ollie watkins at such a young age to become an england legend. Lol. Or a sir or an mbe/obe. A player who hasnt achieved much in the league all of a sudden becomes a legend. Surreal, life works in mysterious ways sometimes
@RA-wp6th
Ай бұрын
Same can be said for Bellingham. He saved us with that late goal in one of the previous games.
@tomisinosabia967
Ай бұрын
Watkins is 28 loool
@Baldrick_dogsbody
Ай бұрын
@@tomisinosabia967 thats nothing. he is still a baby
@tomisinosabia967
Ай бұрын
@@Baldrick_dogsbody not he ain’t idiot I am 1 year and 2 months older than him
@SuperGilly71
Ай бұрын
I bet you’re a villa fan 😂
I've always said this about that England Golden generation side. It's not that they weren't good enough, but they also had to compete against every other teams golden generation teams. France, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Spain , Netherlands , were all loaded too
@somethingcleverhere
Ай бұрын
If all those countries are "golden", the term is pretty meaningless? They can all be elite, certainly, and I don't know the coverage in those countries, but "golden" here is an adjective England gave itself. That's the problem.
@izzy9189
Ай бұрын
@@somethingcleverhere golden in the text simply means if you look un almost every position there is a world class talent , star studded team, and this era of football had that in almost all these teams . Bro Messi was 19/20 coming off the bench for Argentina in 2006 lol. Same for Kaka in 2002 for Brazil , England would debate whether to start Gerrad and Lampard together lol
I love the way Alan started “ I THOUGHT IT WAS LIT” love the slang mate
Great watch! Thank you for keeping us entertained during the Euros.
I really hope Spain wraps it up in 90 minutes, wins it cleanly 2-3:0. They deserve to win it by the way they are playing, amazing football.
@Therejectionartist
Ай бұрын
Deserve has got nothing to do with it. It’s 90 minutes with both teams gathering momentum, of course I think Spain are the favourites, I am predicting 2-1 or 3-1, but if England ride their luck, they could take it to extra time at least.
Enjoyed this, think Rio is always honest and gives great insight.
@StephenCarrIsBald
Ай бұрын
Shame he isn’t the same to his wife
@MrResearcher122
Ай бұрын
@@StephenCarrIsBald Gossip in the politically incorrect dictionary online is defined as: ''trash talk, based on hearsay, often spread by men raised too long around women...''
Lineker and Alan Shaerer are the best England pundits. Always respectful to otther teams. 👍
Really enjoyed watching Rio on this episode, his insight into the previous England squad issues was very interesting and well presented
I am a pessimist or realist, however you want to look at it. I don’t expect England will win, but if they do I think I’ll cry.
@marlee2309
Ай бұрын
Same here
@Allwin-lz6yj
Ай бұрын
Battle of attrition I think Spain have to win it in 90mins otherwise England can bring on their firepower off the bench, right now I’m 52/48 in favour of Spain
@MagpieGeordie
Ай бұрын
England 2-1 win believe me
@marlee2309
Ай бұрын
@@MagpieGeordie 🤞🏻
@user-rq8si4eu1s
Ай бұрын
This is the only time when I think it might be an idea to play for pens! Simply because we’ve proven how good we are at them. I’d back England to beat Spain on pens but then the pressure is a big factor 😳
Key Battles: Walker vs Williams Shaw/Trippier vs Yamal Saka vs Cucurella Rice + Mainoo vs Olmo Bellingham + Foden vs Rodri
@user-kx3jb2dn3l
Ай бұрын
Can't wait 😊
@nigelingaritv6596
Ай бұрын
Put some respect on Fabian Ruiz's name aswell
@randomdaveUK
Ай бұрын
I think it'll be Trippier + LCB vs Yamal. He'll cut inside into traffic if England do it right. Williams is dangerous. But I'm more worried about the triangle of Ruis Rodri and Olmo tbh. Lethal combinations, lots of movement, Ruis is so calm under pressure.
@nigelingaritv6596
Ай бұрын
@@randomdaveUK what traffic yet the boy is good at finding killer passes and releasing them at the right time too. Y'all English people just hope Spain has an off day and the football gods to be on your side otherwise there's no hope for Y'all with this tactics 😂🤣
@randomdaveUK
Ай бұрын
@@nigelingaritv6596 no Yamal likes to cut inside on that left foot. He's lethal. I'm just saying if Trippier and the left CB have it covered, with Rice as well then he'll run into traffic and be forced down the wing. I don't think the England players are hoping for anything, just focusing on themselves. They cannot do anything about Spain's prep, not in their control, so it's useless hoping they have a bad game. It's a final, both teams will be up for it, we're expecting a great Spanish performance
The two best podcasts on KZread colaberating!! Great watch
Great content and interesting to here about England teams in past. I think the team now have only one problem on Sunday which is the pressure of country willing them to win. If I could say one thing too the England team is give 100% and leave nothing out there and if you lose ,at least you tried and you can have no regrets.and as a fan I cannot ask more of you and will be proud of you regardless of the result. Good luck lads.😊
¡Lineker fuer un genio cuando jugaba al futbol y es un genio como comentarista /analista de futbol!
Cole palmer is underrated! He needs to play in the final to counter luiz and Rhodri to keep them occupied.
@kippsguitar6539
Ай бұрын
By whom? I only say praise universally
@VillaBoys123
Ай бұрын
If anything he's overated now.
@xfph1LLy
Ай бұрын
Luiz is brazilian and Rhodri is Welsh ?
I'm not the biggest Rio fan, but he was an exceptional guest in this. Need to see more of him on the show
@mitzy123
Ай бұрын
Not the biggest fan yet you want to see more of him? Make it make sense
Brilliant interview and discussion, down to hearth and straight to the point, thanks guys
Just checking in, how did it go?
How fitting. All 3 podfathers are the best players in their position in their era in the country !!!
Micsh sorry but this show was brilliant Rio is so good with the football world n hw he analize each player ,club,n even at country level wow it was a breath taking reasoning jus to listen to 3 men have a proper tlk
To be fair to Yamal, he did not bring the ninja turtle mask with him. It was handed to him by a fan or a media member, who was probably part of the entourage. And then the other guy opted to take it away from Yamal. It would have been an epic moment though had it materialized. 😂
Let's not give Gareth undue credit. We played poorly within the Group Stages. We were lucky to finish top of the Group and get the easy side of the draw. We played poorly again against Slovakia and were just one minute away from exit when Bellingham saved us. It was an improved performance against the Swiss, however we won the lottery of penalties. It was our first good performance against the Nederlands. So far, one good performance in six has gotten England to the final. Yes, we have been resilient. We have also been very very lucky, especially with that pen against the Dutch.
@Mr.Monta77
Ай бұрын
The harder I work the luckier I get. Same applies.
The only hard team English have faced in the tournament
@kippsguitar6539
Ай бұрын
Pathetic nonsense
@jzilla1234
Ай бұрын
@@kippsguitar6539 yes they are.
@kippsguitar6539
Ай бұрын
@@jzilla1234 no they're not,
I flipping love this podcast! Absolute perfection! Keep up the good work!
Really insightful commentary on the England/media relationship. These guys have turned into really excellent broadcasters.
Love this show but not the same without micha
@willlloyd9480
Ай бұрын
Don’t agree
@mattjames4978
Ай бұрын
Better
@StephenCarrIsBald
Ай бұрын
Much better without micah
@johnfoy7461
Ай бұрын
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 the guy is funny as fuck
@RA-wp6th
Ай бұрын
Micah is ok but I prefer Rio, as he brings a lot of knowledge to the pod, not just laughing all the time.
Ah yes, Rio. Notoriously great in finals. If the Kane curse can make Bayern not win the title, there's no chance England will win. The most England thing ever would be losing the final with him getting the golden boot
@mwccpark
Ай бұрын
England scores 2 with Kane early and still lose 2-3 due to shit defense, Kane wins golden boot and England loses.
@randomdaveUK
Ай бұрын
Spain have been the best team in the tournament 🤷
@mikerotchburns2568
Ай бұрын
Why did the golden generation fail then? Kane wasnt even in the squad, who was the curse then?
@NellyGandhella
Ай бұрын
@@randomdaveUKSpain had a lower xG against Germany and France they conceded lots of chances against both. This notion that Spain are this unbeatable team is false. They are favourites but they aren't the Spain from 2010
@randomdaveUK
Ай бұрын
@@NellyGandhella well yes that Spanish era was dominant. We don't really have a dominant team at the moment which is better for football I think
this is my fav football podcast, love the analysis honesty and how laid back it is
I wondered about club gains / losses nowadays in teams like Portugal Croatia Denmark we (England) are playing against them clubs which is making us a top European team. Especially Spain for the competitiveness within League relations proves how teams can play at their best, you must enjoy yourself first the winning follows grazie. Nice1 I still miss Italia'90 Euro'96 Gary will keep his golden boot.hahaha good to see you Rio & Alan.
England are going to win the Euros because of their bench strength.They just need to stop Spain in first half.
@alixldn
Ай бұрын
so true this
@Inglese001
Ай бұрын
Agree Southgate has to be brave and go for it in the second half. If they’re still in it, with 30 minutes left, I’d put on Palmer and Watkins.
@Allwin-lz6yj
Ай бұрын
Battle of attrition fr
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh
Ай бұрын
Keep dreaming.
England's bench is *insanely* talented. A 10 year old could make the subs and watch them be successful. It's crazy he's getting credit for Bellingham's brilliance, for a penalty shoot-out, a lucky pen. He has a brilliant squad and has _undoubtebly_ been lucky
This episode is absolutely excellent. Top tier stuff!
Brutally and refreshingly honest pov. Seeing Rio in a new light
Rio and his room temp IQ really exposed this Euros.
It’s common knowledge some Man Utd players didn’t talk to each other so to use excuse to cliches in England during ‘golden generation’ shows it was nothing to do with that
@DuranStonnell
Ай бұрын
Difference is man united still won lots of trophies
This is the best podcast for the Euros! Going to miss it once the tournament is over!
Always great to hear what Rio has to say. Good stuff.