So they making a subway.. those exist

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

When you step onto a subway train, you are forced to endure stopping at every other station until your destination. The Loop is in its infancy. Over the next 5 years, the Loop plans to expand to 29 miles with 51 stations. Riders can get into a Loop Tesla at any station and go directly to their destination without stopping at any other stations. The Loop is not the same as a subway. It is significantly more efficient.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

​@@LeoTheDestroyer222 I know it's hard in today's divisive and argumentative world to be willing to learn something new that causes us to shift our position on matters. I'm certainly not out trying to pick cyber-fights with people. I just have a hard time when people form opinions on incomplete information and then use social media to perpetuate the false narrative as facts, thereby influencing others to spread the misinformation.

@10melvis

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 another thing the tesla loop was much much cheaper and faster to build and a subway.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@10melvis True, and all with Elon’s money, no public funds.

@silimarina.

Жыл бұрын

@@10melvis lol, no! That was debunked. A similar size tunnel costs the same as a boring tunnel. You Elon fanboys are so gullible

Only Elon could reinvent the wheel and make it square.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he only managed to make a system that already now is 10 times cheaper than the cheapest alternatives. A system that can be built in a matter of weeks, (soon days) rather than years. And finally, a tunnel system that is privately financed and owned, creating free public transportation for the state. Sure, it’s not optimal yet, but the autopilot team is working on the software currently, and insiders have disclosed a Tesla designed car specifically for the loop is coming as well. Your argument doesn’t seem to be fair. Am I missing anything?

@rvdxpress

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 Yeah, you’re missing a lot. All you’ve managed to do is regurgitate claims. So far what we have in the real world is a single lane tunnel that moves at a snails pace. Let’s not get bogged down with what could be, but what actually is. Anybody can make wild claims. Sometimes people deliver on those. Elon, however, doesn’t have a great track record.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Correction, at a average speed of (50-60 feet per day) 55 feet per day, (20 hours operation per day), it takes a normal tunnel boring machine 9.5 months per mile, and that’s without setup, removal and the finishing touches. The boring tunnel on their first attempt achieved a slightly over 1 year time for 1.7 miles. Their current next generation is achieving 1 mile per week, and mid-term goal much later is 7 miles per day. Yeah. That’s on top of what i mentioned before.

@MrMonoposon

Жыл бұрын

​@@sebastianorye2702 he would hunt you for sport if he were allowed.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMonoposon No he wouldn't. He doesn't even take holidays. That would be a total waste of his time. Regardless, if that's your response, its clear you have nothing valuable to contribute to this open conversation.

Crazy. So they’re gonna make it into… a train. What a novel concept.

@MrTechroundup

8 ай бұрын

They are actually not going to make it into a train because the size of tunnel and distance doesnt make sense.

@GiangTran-fp3wu

2 ай бұрын

The novel concept is, they can do it at 1/10th of the cost.

@feonor26

Ай бұрын

​@@GiangTran-fp3wuNo they cant!

The tunnels seem so small that in an accident you probably won't be even able to open the doors fully to get out.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

Fit people can crawl out the windows. I may be the only way to save your life if it catches on fire.

@superchargedpetrolhead

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 if the battery catches on fire, the toxic fumes might kill you before you crawl out of the window. Great design.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@superchargedpetrolhead Battery fires take a while to get going. Fit people will just have to live with the screams of the disabled filling their nightmares from then on.

@thescottishbant2298

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 tf

@kingDavidivv

Жыл бұрын

​@@kensmith5694

Wow a single car subway! How super efficient.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Umm, do you think there will only be one car? When it is all built out, riders will be picked up at any of the 51 stations and taken directly to their destination stations with no stops at any stations in between. No traffic lights or stop signs. The target capacity will be 57,000 riders per hour. "Super efficient" is right!

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 LOL LOL LOL Nope

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 I guess we’ll see. The horse-and-buggy guys couldn’t imagine being wrong about the oncoming new developments either. Check back in five years and let’s see how it’s going.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 Yes, we will see and I am confident that some real advancement is the thing people will be talking about.

@einar8019

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779 so it will have more throughput than a 4 lane highway???? Good luck. Also a rail line had 60-90 000 max capasity per 3.5m lane

Ok hear my revolutionary idea: -Instead of using so many small cars, we use bigger cars with greater capacities that run every 5 minutes. -To reduce friction we lay down metallic guide rails and make our big car wheels out of metal as well. -Instead of using battery powered cars which degrade over time, we set up wires in the ceiling and directly supply them. We'll call it the "electro sex master 69 pod" and charge the government a 500% markup on construction cause apparently making normal public transport at reasonable prices is no longer cool.

@freedomforall2486

Жыл бұрын

Even if they charge 500% mark up will still be cheaper then most construction projects that are always insanely over budget!

@tge2102

Жыл бұрын

@@freedomforall2486 Brother I just defined a normal train with a fancy name because comedy

@SampleT3xT_

Жыл бұрын

Broo what a concept only if we would evolve that much 😂😂

@OnyxtheFolf

10 ай бұрын

This is an awesome idea by the way I've never heard of anyone using a long car with metal wheels underground

@MrTechroundup

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that makes so much financial sense for these routes that only have good traffic during significant conventions. Why dont you propose this genius idea to Vegas. Geez, the amount of idiots who think they are smart is astonishing.

Elon: I'm going to revolutionise traffic jams by making them underground Elon fan boys: *applause*

Wow, a less efficient subway, with way less capacity, thats truly amazing!

Wow! Amazing stuff. Elon is a game changer! First it’s a taxi in a tunnel and eventually a train in a tunnel! Elon needs a catchy name for the new train-tunnel idea. I suggest he calls it a subway.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, autopilot for the tunnel is being developed, and more than that, a car specifically for it is as well. So currently, the advantage of the boring company’s tunnel is that it’s 1/10 the price of the cheapest alternatives, and does it in weeks rather than years, this is going to be cut down to days with the new version.

@the-guy-on-your-moms-couch

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 you’re blowing smoke and can’t prove a single thing you’ve just said. And “1/10 the cost” has been proven wrong already, so that’s just straight up cap. And what exactly is going to take days not weeks? And how many days ? 4? 7000?

@isaacng123456789

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 why is it still developing when we already have that technology? Heathrow terminal five pods? People movers in every major airports? Morgantown PRT?

@joseluislopes3956

Жыл бұрын

​@@sebastianorye2702 "autopilot on the tunnel" yeah that an amazing over engineering of something called "driving on rails" An autopilot software may fail and make a car hit a wall. Meanwhile the few times I heard of a derailing the last years were vandalism

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacng123456789 those are on rails. Autopilot is on wheels and is guided to follow the white lines on the road. Eventually it will be more like what you’re saying, but that’s only when the purpose build vehicle is released.

Simpson's monorail guy in my head

@Namen59

Жыл бұрын

California high speed raíl

@I.C.Weiner

Жыл бұрын

The names Lanley, lyle Lanley.

@planespeaking

Жыл бұрын

@@Namen59 No, there's a strong use case for that.

Anyone else has thunderf00ts video about this in mind?

@raymonko

Жыл бұрын

Definitely lol.

@atheistmecca971

Жыл бұрын

Love it.

@JacobWilson

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@justinfowler2857

Жыл бұрын

Solar freaking roadways!!!!

@riba2233

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

That guy in front of you was like “ NoPe!” and just went back up the escalator 😂🤣😂

Once trains are installed in the hyperloop tunnel the whole concept morphs into....old school SUBWAY!

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is evolving back to the late 1800s. Maybe it will improve its throughput to almost that good in the next 10 years.

@Wardoon

Жыл бұрын

Trains, sub or above terrain, are much more efficient and environmentally more friendly than cars. The more we use trains or busses the better for us in many ways. Hope Elon makes subways more efficient and financially and esthetically more attractive to people.

@LOKSTED

Жыл бұрын

Why don’t you whine about nyc subway wasting your tax money instead of Elon spending his own money 😂

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@LOKSTED Nobody is whining about Elon wasting his own money. The comments are correct about this being a bad idea and a warning to not spend tax payers money on such nonsense.

@LOKSTED

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 Do you not get that private companies aren't funded by tax money?

The guy who got down the escalator and ready to go up right away

So this grift to get CA to scrap its high speed rail system is basically an amusement park ride now 😂

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

No. You can’t walk before crawling. This is just the first step.

@Clipper1094

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 first step to what? It’s a freaking tunnel, nothing revolutionary about that. Try using any of the tunnels in NY during rush hour and see how congested it gets. Not to mention this thing is a single lane tunnel. So yeah, super efficient.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@Clipper1094 The idea of a tunnel isn’t revolutionary as you say, but the technology to make it happen is. The current boring machines that they operate and plan to operate can and will cut times to construct from years to weeks/months, to finally days (the current prototype they have). Moreover, the price currently is 10x less than the cheapest alternatives. Not to mention, the 29 mile expansion to this loop will be entirely out of pocket, with fees to generate income. This essentially is public infrastructure for the city for free, something only seen on motorways currently. And then there is the fact that it will be powered by Tesla software, and a custom vehicle as well. As this is lower scale, it doesn’t make sense to mass produce that vehicle yet, but it’s according to employees in the works currently.

@georgespalding7640

Жыл бұрын

​@@sebastianorye2702 You can always tell when someone has drank the Musk Kool-Aid.

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@georgespalding7640 Well if that's your response, you clearly have nothing valuable to contribute to this open conversation. If you will, please lead yourself out. Only return once you have a decent argument backed up by sources.

So, they reinvented the Train 🚆

@yty445

Жыл бұрын

now imagine ur cars on autopilot and so is every other car on the road ur all going the same speed not allowing passing another train. thank u elon please make a oven that requires u to keep ur hand on it for it to cook

I thought he said he would be making highways underground not just a train

The real scam in Vegas is that the monorail doesn’t include the airport when the track literally ends across the street from it at the MGM.

Would you like to take a scenic route or the rat route? Lol

@zebedeesummers4413

Жыл бұрын

while a lot of this seems silly to me, honestly the rat route somewhere like NYC would be a great deal better if I was on my way to work or something similar.

So its a tunnel and a car is in it, driven by a human ... 🤣🍑 aahhh this futuristic tec is blowing my mind. Edit: trains will be replacing the cars just as soon as the cybertrucks, cyber semi truck, the rescue sub, landing a manned misson to Mars, solving world hunger... 🤣, Robotaxis, replacing the entire Porto Rico power grid with Tesla tec and finally the mother loving Hyperloop baby gets built 🤣 ....and I guess the interlocking dirt bricks that would be used to house the world 👍they would be the byproduct of the Hyperloop.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

There will never be trains in the Loop. The tesla cars in the Loop will be autonomous after FSD emerges from beta, and after FSD is approved for public use by Nevada, and after Clark County permits FSD for use in the Loop. Lots of legal hoops to jump through. You're welcome to be critical of how long it takes Tesla to develop FSD (or any of his other attempts to revolutionize previously-impossible things), maybe you could've done it faster than Elon. Much apologies for not accomplishing almost-impossible things according to your time table.

@EGoRBHD130

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779 Almost impossible? We've had subways for over a 100 years m8.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@EGoRBHD130 Yep, and we've had car companies and rockets for many decades too. If you can't see the difference between the legacy technologies and what Elon is doing, you aren't looking close enough. He is revolutionizing previously-impossible things. It takes legacy technology 10 weeks and $1 billion to dig one mile of tunnel. The Boring Co is doing the same in 1 week for $10 million. Revolutionary.

@EGoRBHD130

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 Yep. That is what Elon claimed, but came out to be false. XD they're not revolutionizing anything. The only thing Elon might have done is inspire better car companies to build better electric cars than Tesla's. Other than that. He takes old ideas. Claim them as his own and fail at them. That's why he abandons almost every project he starts.

@derekhiner1612

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779 No, there won't be FSD. The tunnel is too narrow. Did you not listen to the video? Salty Musk fanboy alert! 😂

I saw a video where two people raced to see who would get there faster. One just walked the route and the other took the loop. The guy walking won the race.

@parkerw.2155

Жыл бұрын

What's the video I can't find it

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@parkerw.2155 I can't find it with search either. There are a lot of youtube videos about the tunnel now so it no doubt is on page 703 of the search results.

@StormTrouper3

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 I am sure it was linked in one of thunderf00ts videos.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@StormTrouper3 Thunderf00t is not the only one who has pointed out trouble with it.

@larrysorenson4789

Жыл бұрын

You can easily do the same in Paris; walking versus the Metro. I found this out when the Metro went on strike and never rode it again.

its like a subway tunnel, but they ran out of money so they put a car in the meantime

Anyone else notice the guy at the bottom of the escalator just got off the one going down, to just get on the one going up!

Guy in front saw how small tunnel is, and was like NOPE

elon musk invented the hyper-subway, it's like a subway but the walls have rgb lighting. they're also guaranteed to take everyone to nirvana if a fire or any other emergency occurs, since nobody can get out and there is clearly no ventilation

That's the right place for those cars! Underground!

@peteh8077

Жыл бұрын

Hey Pete

So he took billions of dollars to show them what a subway is.

That narrow tunnel makes me feel claustrophobic.

What an invention! Making a network of trains underground. Truly the pinnacle of innovation

Adam something has entered the chat😅

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

Adam something, a notorious Elon critic is just about as well informed as anyone else. He knows what he’s looked up, and nothing more. His points, although correct are misleading, and sometimes flat out false. So currently, the advantage of the boring company’s tunnel is that it’s 1/10 the price of the cheapest alternatives, and does it in weeks rather than years, this is going to be cut down to days with the new version. They have gotten all the fire security checks from the local department, and have fire exists all throughout the tunnel. Plus, a major fan system can kick in in the case of a fire, allowing ventilation. Anyway, the cars (Teslas) inside them have 8x less fire risk than normal US cars, so it’s not much of a risk. Did I miss anything?

@isaacng123456789

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 you missed the part where they could add tracks to decrease friction, third rail/overhead wire to connect directly to the grid all the time, link multiple cars together to increase capacity (and Vegas needs all the capacity it can get with tourists, and conventions).

@sebastianorye2702

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacng123456789 that’s all part of they hyperloop goal, but the boring company isn’t related to that. Sure, the tunnels in the future are planned to be converted to that, but that’s well the future.

@panzerveps

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 You know why their tunnels are so cheap? They can barely fit a single car, and don't have the same safety features you'd find in a normal tunnel. And they are not built for speed, so they can cheap out on absolutely everything.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianorye2702 The Boring Co's machine is not 1/10 the cost. Traditional tunnel boring machine can dig one mile in ten weeks and costs $1B to do it. TBC's machine, called Prufrock-2, can dig a mile in just one week and costs about $10M to do, which is 1/100 the cost and 10x faster than traditional tunnel boring machines. There seems to be some question of interpretation about the planned speed of the next generation Prufrock-3 machine. In some articles, it says Prufrock-3 will dig 7 miles per day, other articles say 0.7 miles per day. Even if it is "only" 0.7 miles per day, that's nearly 5 miles per week, which is 50x faster than traditional boring machines.

How is a car in a tunnel a revolutionary concept

LOL, they cant get self driving to work in a tunnel.

vegas just got elon to dig a tunnel for them lmao

I don’t understand how 100s of people agreed on it.

120 year old invention. Amazing!!

no emergency exit. Simpson: " Enjoy your death trap, LADIES"

That shit gave me heart palpitations man. It's so narrow

Scam.. they promise autonomous driving yet can't even make it work in a closed system they designed themselves.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Tesla isn’t trying to “make it work in a closed system they designed themselves.” They are trying to solve autonomous driving to work without geofencing, without boundaries, in all situations. Drop a Tesla vehicle on any road, anywhere, and it will know what to do. This is a significantly more complex problem than mapping out a closed system. And Tesla is very close to solving it.

@NormalCleanCars

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 lol it doesn't do any of that. It's literally a scam. All other major car manufacturers can do the same level of autonomous driving that Tesla can do. The biggest difference is they don't advertise themselves as full driving which the EU banned Tesla from saying since it was not true. Elon been saying full self driving since 2016 "coming next year". Robo Taxi? His Tesla Semi? The solar roofs? Mission to Mars? None of the Boring tunnel promises have come to fruition. What about the Tesla Model 3 that was supposed to FLY using air canisters to make you levitate? Even the summon feature does not work properly. It can hardly find you. All of it is vaperware, all to make you think he's a genius, and everything always comes next year. Next year. Next year. Don't get me started on his Satellites. A company going bankrupt that is sending 46K Satellites in space.. His entire umbrella of companies is a sham, the greatest con man to have existed. But it's easier to convince someone of a lie then to convince them they've been lied too .

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@NormalCleanCars Wait and see, my friend. There is so much of what you said here that is incorrect. All the evidence I see confirms what I hear from Elon and contradicts the ignorant eyes-closed FUD you fling. But even if Elon ends up 90% wrong, I’m still on the right side of multiple technology revolutions. You’re welcome to stay with the horse-and-buggy “man-was-not-meant-to-fly” crowd. 😂

@NormalCleanCars

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 FUD? Fear? Uncertainty and doubt. This isn't a financial advice comment. I'm just trying to explain that Elon is another Theranos , or Nikola company. Elizabeth Holmes was a "genius" worth 4.5B $ that scammed the pharmaceutical industry with Theranos. In time, we'll see with Elon. I'm all for technology revolution mumbo jumbo you just said , but only if physics and science can allow it , not just some white paper that can say they can do it >.>

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@NormalCleanCars …and please tell me where Elon ever said the Model 3 would fly. LOL. He joked once that the new version of the Roadster would be able to fly with a SpaceX upgrade. I’m sorry, but what you are doing here is exactly how the left wing fake news media operates. Latch onto a misunderstood rumor, stretch it to the worst possible interpretation, and add it to a long list of other boloney talking points they can spout off to tear down and demean other people. If you have arrived at your talking points through actual qualified sources, great, please share them, but I suspect you have collected all of this FUD from other FUD-flingers rather than actually researching the company and its progress. I can produce qualified sources that dispute every negative claim you’ve made.

Imagine if all the cars were linked together, and rode on some sort of track. And instead of normal cars, they were design like a bus

That was the stupidest idea ever. Even dumber than buying Twitter to run it into the ground.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

If you’ve done five minutes of research and made up your mind about it by listening to one KZreadr who said ten things and got nine of them wrong, then yes I can see why you’d think this was the “stupidest idea ever”. It’s amazing how the county commissioners, Las Vegas Convention Center, dozens of pro sport event center execs, and hundreds of top hotel execs from multiple casino companies weren’t able to see things your way when they decided to make the Vegas Loop happen. If this really is the stupidest idea ever, someone should notify the authorities in Fort Lauderdale/Miami and San Antonio who are each considering expanded visions of the Loop within their cities after meeting with TBC and touring the current progress in Vegas. Someone should educate them with your understanding of the concept.

@angryhairpeice

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 There were definitely some greased palms there, and the only places stupid enough to see this and think it is a good idea are TX and FL. You know what they say "Everything's dumber in Texas."

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@angryhairpeice Ah! Even better! You’ve uncovered a massive multi-state conspiracy of fraud and bribery! And somehow you’ve done it before it could be uncovered by the FBI, the IRS, or the SEC. You should definitely call in a tip to the authorities. You watch too many movies.

@jandivis6924

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779 Its stupid And useless musk exploited his futuristic charming And instead of building normal metro/Subway they use few Cars to transport few people. From traffic point of view this Is just a waste.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@jandivis6924 Pretty sure the horse-and-buggy folks felt the same way about the useless exploiters peddling their futuristic charming automobile inventions. When the world's brightest college-graduating engineers rank the companies they most desire to work for, the top of the list is made up of companies Elon owns. How is it that you figured out before they did that this whole idea is a waste? Is it possible you don't know what they know? Be honest: is it possible your opinion of the Vegas Loop based on your limited understanding of the concept, or worse, is solely based on the anti-Elon negativity in the media? Help me understand your argument. Do you believe that if Elon didn't build the Vegas Loop, that Las Vegas would somehow someday end up with a "normal metro/subway"? No, that was never going to happen. Elon's tunnel doesn't stop you from choosing to use any of the other available forms of transportation currently available. This tunnel does nothing to make any of the surface traffic worse. Where is the waste? This tunnel only **increases** the total capacity of traffic to move people up and down the Strip. Instead of thinking of the Vegas Loop as an alternative for a subway system (which was never ever ever going to be built in Las Vegas), it is much more accurately thought of as an alternative to Uber/Lyft or taxis; it is a point-to-point ride-hailing service, but is underground and avoids all the heavy on-surface traffic. When the full Vegas Loop is completed connecting 51 stations across 29 miles of tunnels, it will accommodate hundreds of autonomous cars shuttling thousands of people every day for a fraction of the cost of taking Uber/Lyft or taxis.

.. and that's all it'll ever be

So they are gonna make a subway. I' m happy to hear that. Would be more efficient !

No ventilation, no escape tunnel, no fire suppression, no nothing. I guess regulation don't matter if you put enough RGB in

Wow! A subway. What an invention!!!

What if you the car breaks down?

@Justmekpc

Жыл бұрын

Or catches on fire?

@youtbe999

Жыл бұрын

@@Justmekpc Bore another tunnel right next.

@Justmekpc

Жыл бұрын

@@youtbe999 lots of tunnels 🤣 I certainly wouldn’t want to be in a tunnel with a Tesla fire or any lithium batter fire as they don’t go out because they create their own oxygen I don’t see any lithium battery system could be safe underground stick with subways.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@Justmekpc I see the media has successful indoctrinated you; another win for the fake-news media. When you get a minute, I invite you to do a little research and compare the percentage of Tesla cars that catch fire versus the percentage of regular gas cars. Go ahead, I'll wait.

@Justmekpc

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 that’s not my point if you can read. Lithium battery’s when they do catch fire produce their own oxygen and are near impossible to put out. Elons tunnel under Vegas is barely wider then the car, if it caught fire it’d be extremely difficult to put out. A subway works on electric rails and is much safer period. You’ve been brainwashed by Tesla to think any comment must be defended without actually comprehending what the comment says.

Ladies and gentlemen, Elon has brought us the future!!!! Single cars in narrow tunnels!

“It’ll be trains. No. Cars on tracks. No, just cars in a tunnel. On auto pilot? No. But some day trains!” Uh huh

Definitely no trains bud

@The_king567

9 ай бұрын

No

What a fancy subway 😂

@Barskor1

Жыл бұрын

What a fancy subway built for one tenth the cost of a old-style subway....

@sofalso

Жыл бұрын

​@@Barskor1 to transport 1/10,000th of the people

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

​@@sofalso The intended capacity of the Vegas Loop when it is built out is 57,000 people per hour.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@Barskor1 One hundredth the cost. $10M per mile versus $1B per mile.

@einar8019

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779 lmao thats a pipe dream

In the first part you see a dude arriving down at tunnel with his suitcase Next shot you see him walking up

So it's like a subway... But worse in every way possible... Bravo elongated muskrat,definitely one of the people of all time....

The hyperloop is unsurprisingly evolving into a subway.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

This isn't the hyperloop. Hyperloop is something else. Same company, but different thing entirely. And this isn't a subway (the video is wrong, there will never be trains), it is Uber/Lyft on its own private roads underground with no traffic lights, stop signs, or street-level traffic congestion. When it is all built out, the target capacity is 57,000 riders per hour.

How can anyone believe this isn't just a scam!?

@silimarina.

Жыл бұрын

Because there are a lot of Elon fanboys and they are not very bright

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Which part is a scam? Remember how everyone for a decade said Tesla was a scam because Elon promised to mass-produce EVs that were fast, fun to drive, with 300+ mile range and every mocked him for thinking cars on batteries because laptop batteries explode, and it would be impossible to do because nobody had ever done it before? Remember how Tesla is now building a million EVs a year now, each of which are two to three times more profitable than any other production vehicle, EV or ICE? Is it the Loop you think is a scam? Thousands of people rode in the Loop between Resorts World and the Las Vegas Convention Center last week during the SEMA show. Is that a scam?

An underground train system. Wow can’t believe no one thought of this before. 😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂

Great news. Greatest genius of all times invents subway 😂

Tunnels so small that if there's an unforeseen accident or people just being idiotic, these tunnels will cause traffic jams and possibly dangerous situations. They made a few "Tunnel" movies that show how bad tunnels can be. These need to be wider to be safer and more efficient.

This is the subway for rich people.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

I used the Loop a few weeks ago at the SEMA tradeshow...I paid $3.50 for an all-day pass to use the Vegas Loop to go back and forth between the convention center and Resorts World. I don't know what *each trip* back and forth would've cost me if I'd used Uber/Lyft or taxis, but I'm confident it would've cost a lot more and would've taken a lot longer with the crazy surface-street traffic. Careful, your liberal anti-capitalism bias is showing.

@Thisismyaccount82

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779nope, it’s called an opinion, I’m allowed it.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

​@@Thisismyaccount82 Well, yes, I suppose opinions are just reflections of our biases. Usually when faced with facts, opinions are either upgraded to "knowledge" or are discarded as false. Intentionally hanging onto a false opinion is senseless, unless there is some other agenda...

Wow a one lane tunnel with a Tesla! How exciting. Lol

My brother works for the boring company and he’s gonna be there in Vegas this week to work at the loop.

Nice a sucky subway with cars and congestion

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Super efficient point-to-point underground ride hailing service with no surface-street traffic.

@gangsterjan

Жыл бұрын

​@@jongardner6779are you a bot? You're just repeating the same stuff over and over

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@gangsterjan Because I know what I’m talking about, and there are a bunch of FUD-flingers out there spreading fake news because they hate Elon. It’s sad, really, how people let their anti-Elon feelings cloud their ability to recognize legit technology advancements.

@gangsterjan

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 why are you praising Elon then and not his engineers, he's the modern Version of Edison, not Tesla

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@gangsterjan You do know, don’t you, that this whole discussion is about The Boring Company and not Tesla. The fact that you bring up Tesla shows that your criticism of the Vegas Loop is based solely on your bias against Elon. I’ve said nothing against the world’s greatest engineers currently working for Tesla and SpaceX, all of whom want to work at those companies because they want to work for Elon. What was your point, again?

Inefficient rich people train with extra steps

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Super efficient point-to-point underground ride hailing service with no surface street traffic. There will never be a train in the Vegas Loop.

So the guy is building a subway...

They also make this thing called a motorcycle. My commute from Alamo to sf at 630 am took 28 minutes. There was even an accident and that locks everything down.

So why didn't they just build a train?? Is no one else seeing this??

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

When you step onto a subway train, you are forced to endure stopping at every other station until your destination. The Loop is in its infancy. Over the next 5 years, the Loop plans to expand to 29 miles with 51 stations. Riders can get into a Loop Tesla at any station and go directly to their destination without stopping at any other stations. The Loop is not the same as a subway. It is significantly more efficient.

@Zachary_McLaren

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 dude, the loop will never be as efficient as a train/subway. Just look at a system like the London underground and the amount of people moved everyday. This is just underground taxi's. Also Elon has be caught saying he only started the company to trick governments into putting money in high-speed rail and other public transport programs. If public transport is good, people won't buy his cars.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@Zachary_McLaren To be crystal clear, there is no intention of *replacing* any existing subway systems with Boring Co's Loop solution, and never in a million years would Las Vegas or Clark County install a London-esque subway system. The Loop will be, for a tiny fraction of the cost of a traditional subway system, extraordinarily efficient compared to trying to take an Uber, Lyft, or taxi up and down the Strip during any of the major conventions every year or anywhere near T-Mobile Arena or Allegiant Stadium during any of their events. And for the millionth time, you FUD-flingers love making claims about this-or-that supposedly said or done by Elon, but you never provide any source for this information. Just because some other FUD-flinger makes a claim and you heard it, doesn't make it true. Incidentally, Elon does have a history of making statements to the public in hopes that *someone else* will do something (like produce more batteries, mine and/or refine more raw materials for batteries, etc) only to give up and decide to do them himself because he can do them better, faster, and/or cheaper than others can. So even when the Loop has gone through various concepts before it arrived at the current model, virtually every new business idea or invention goes through many iterations and modifications before the final product or services is released to the public. Doesn't bother me one bit, and I can't fathom why it bothers you.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoTheDestroyer222 By your logic, NY Taxi companies shouldn’t exist either, right? But again, you are missing the point. There will never be a NY-style underground subway in Las Vegas. Never. Ever. The city will not pay for one, the county will not pay one. Boring Co is paying for this on their dime, and they can do it many times faster and for a tiny fraction of the cost of a traditional subway system. And it is definitely not just a “30 second” difference in time between sitting on a train with 200 of your favorite New Yorkers than getting into a car and going directly to your destination station with no extra stops. I’d venture to say there will be fewer random muggings, assaults, and attacks riding in a Loop tesla than on a subway train. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoTheDestroyer222 Who is paying for this imaginary subway and it's imaginary expansion?

Does anyone genuinely think Elon musk will step foot on mars in our lifetime?

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Uhhh technically it's possible right now but only if you're a crazy person. That being said, I think not if Democrats keep remaining in power and slowing us down with so much rampant Antihuman Insanity they're trying to force on us all against our wills at our own expense

@marcralfschricker

Жыл бұрын

Not any longer

@El_Andru

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not, but the man surely sent rockets up there better than anyone yet. We'll have to see

@bobbyhall7472

Жыл бұрын

@@El_Andru 🤡🤡🤡

@derekhiner1612

Жыл бұрын

According to him, he's sending Starship there this year 😂

I wonder how it did when Las Vegas was flooded a few months ago.

And if he has Jarod from Subway sponsor him, it will no longer be a boring tunnel . 😆🤣😂

Generic negative comment

lol and people thought this was some sort of revelation.

@angryhairpeice

Жыл бұрын

They still do. Stupidity is an endemic in America.

@Barskor1

Жыл бұрын

You like many missed the forest for the trees look at how fast this was done and how much it cost to build.

@nealinnc

Жыл бұрын

@@Barskor1 50 million dollars for 1.7 miles and over a year to complete. 30 million dollars per mile. Very high cost to maintain as well. Expensive taxis and expensive taxi drivers. Taxis at street level would have been far cheaper and only a couple of minutes max longer to wait. Trams buses and subways are far more efficient and cost effective.

@angryhairpeice

Жыл бұрын

@@Barskor1 Look at how slow and short it is. It was a huge waste of resources.

@Barskor1

Жыл бұрын

@@nealinnc Now look at what the recent New York city subway expansion costs and the time to compleation hint it is far more than just over a year 50 million and 30 million per mile as to high cost to maintain Tesla EVs have a 60% lower maintenance cost for operations than ICE cars according to Hertz rental cars and the drivers will be replaced by FSD eventually. For perspective the New York subway system costs 8.7 billion dollars per year to operate now.

So he has a lithium battery car in a small confined tube with no means of escape in the tunnel. Sounds safe.😅

This thing is a death trap... Notice the lack of emergency exits or any safety features. It would take 2 minutes max to completely fill the tunnel with smoke in the case of a battery fire, killing anyone who hasn't escaped by then. You have to wonder how this even got approved to operate, because it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Tunnel is not too narrow, county won’t let them use autopilot as it is not certified yet. As soon as it gets certified they will be driverless and the trains you talk about will be convoys of cars. This is not a subway because the seats in a subway don’t split off and go to different directions 😂. This is point to point soon(ish) to be anywhere on the strip and airport etc.

@nomercy4521

Жыл бұрын

So it's just an underground road, like other underground tunnels.

@lmcclymont

Жыл бұрын

@@nomercy4521 yup built at 1/4 the price and aiming for 10x the speed of those “other” underground tunnels making them viable to build many of them quickly and cheaply. Still at the very start of development really but the Vegas loop should move things on a fair bit.

@nomercy4521

Жыл бұрын

@@lmcclymont great if they really can build tunnels for cheaper than competitors, but, the purpose doesn't really sound very innovative. There's plenty of underground roads.

@lmcclymont

Жыл бұрын

@@nomercy4521 it does if you understand the plan, it doesn’t if you just think they can make a tunnel every now and again. iPads didn’t seem innovative at the time, neither did AirPods.

@nomercy4521

Жыл бұрын

@@lmcclymont the plan isn't innovative.

Pretty Kool and below ground probability of a earth quake is good too!

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

Significantly safer in a tunnel than on the surface during an earthquake.

I wonder why the narrow confines prevents autopilot? I would have thought a consistent tunnel like this would be perfect, no difficult obstacles to navigate.

Imagine that. Replacing cars with trains. It's almost like the cars in a single lane tunnel was a bad idea.

scam loop xd

The Vegas Loop is not on Full-Self Driving yet because it is not yet released out of Beta, not because “the walls are too narrow.” Also, 5 min to Resorts World? No, it’s like 45 seconds. And no, never going to be replaced with trains. LOL, where are you getting your info?

@Sibs

Жыл бұрын

All of this info was directly from the driver I rode with

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@Sibs Your driver didn't know what he is talking about. And you said the ride to RW was five minutes. It's like 45 seconds. Maybe one minute tops.

@dwainalfred4151

Жыл бұрын

Always someone who knows better than someone who went through the experience. Smh.

@jongardner6779

Жыл бұрын

@@dwainalfred4151 I hear you, Dwain, and the world is certainly full of those. I live in Las Vegas, have also ridden in the Loop, have had minor involvement in its development through my employment (which I’m not authorized to speak on behalf of, so I don’t), and have been following its permitting process through Clark County for over two years as it maps out its expansion to 51 stations across 29 miles of tunnels up and town the Strip. I’m not just another armchair contrarian. I only spoke up here because the information being shared by the OP is factually wrong (not just my opinion) and unfairly perpetuates negative sentiment to others as noted in the Comments. There is so much fake news out there; shouldn’t people who know better speak up? Or is it your preference that false narratives be allowed to stand unchallenged?

@dwainalfred4151

Жыл бұрын

@@jongardner6779 Life lesson for you if you may, Your experience is not the standard. You don't know the conditions on that day or if that is the new standard. I too am tired of new standard for truth ( Alternative Truth ), the fake news and the unwarranted negative comments, but so far, some of the negative comment attached this project is just justified because they are keeping Elon accountable.

Imagine breaking down in the tunnel

@BMWiE-lz3nu

Жыл бұрын

Or your tesla bursts into flames like they are known to do..

Trains 😂? I thought it was supposed to be faster than trains. Oh wait I already knew it wasn’t.

Convention center isn't even that far from resorts world, is literally crossing a street

Wow never seen a tunnel cars can go through before

I would not feel comfortable riding in that tiny tunnel in vehicles that catch fire after an accident.

@kevinbailey8827

3 ай бұрын

There haven't been any accidents. The vehicles don't go very fast, and the tunnels are one way. This reduces the chances of an accident. And these vehicles rarely catch fire after accidents. If you're not comfortable, don't ride. Your feelings are real, but the fear is not based on any realistic danger. You'll likely do several things today that are more risky. About 27 people die each year in elevator accidents.

@KD10Conqueror

Ай бұрын

​@@kevinbailey8827Oh god it's tge guy that defends this project like nothing else... thought I would never see you again. Welp.

@kevinbailey8827

Ай бұрын

@@KD10Conqueror why would you think you would never see me again? As long as it continues to make progress I will continue to follow. What keeps you coming back?

I love this version of subway

TBF, it's more of a tourist attraction rather than a form of transport. Think of it like a tour guide bus

@winterlinde5395

4 ай бұрын

Tour guide bus without the view. 🤔👍🏻

A tunnel with RGB. Such a brilliant idea that will revolutionize the world.

Did anyone else notice the guy that went down the escalator turned around went straight back up?

Elon must have some devious plans for this, we just arent aware, you sneaky bastard elon.

Turns out Musk’s revolutionary idea is just a bad subway line.

We have many of these in my country😂😂😂😂 Well almost all countries have this

Can't even use autopilot man 💀

So its a subway without the urine. At least for now.

Just corporate experiments 😅😂

I always wanted an elevated people mover on the strip connecting everything at Vegas. The cab owners prevented this from happening for 50 years. When the elevated thing got approved it was hidden to the east of the strip and you could not even find the ramps to if from inside the few casinos that connected it up. Now this. What a shame. Right problem, way wrong answer. Oh and don’t forget. Do not connect to the airport.

Instead of teslas they should just have golf carts , infinitely more fun

@I.C.Weiner

Жыл бұрын

Bumper cars. No need for insurance because wrecks are encouraged.

@Observer250

Жыл бұрын

@@I.C.Weiner 😂😂😂😂

Adam something will be delighted to hear that musk intend to transform this monstrosity into an actual functioning metro

so basically this was a failed experiment and they planned to change it to subway to recoup the lost😂

That's a big number of "IF's"

Yeah, it's almost like hijacking a subway construction to pointlessly replace all the trains with "pods" (and then just giving up and having cars) is actually really inefficient and stupid.

Ah yes! A subway! Elon, you're a genious! you are our savior!! what could we do without you

@LOKSTED

Жыл бұрын

Why don’t you whine about nyc subway wasting your tax money instead of Elon spending his own money 😂

@dmor6696

Жыл бұрын

@@LOKSTED because the NYC sub actually moves millions of people per year, and that LED tunnel you have over there is just a gimmick to sell more Teslas. But i am sorry i offended your god

@LOKSTED

Жыл бұрын

@@dmor6696 What do you not get about not whining when it's not about your money? 🤫shh

Ah yes, reinventing the wheel…er subway system lol