Before you are ready to have a passenger, be sure to first practice with someone whom you wouldn't care too much if they got hurt, like an ex, a telemarketer or your mother in law

@courtneymcgowan9561

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@gregoryeditor

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment. 😂

@Striker50_

2 жыл бұрын

Golddddd 🏆

@esatd34

2 жыл бұрын

OR, get someone who KNOWS how to be a pillion. Then get someone inexperienced

@Gruntilda-Winkybunion

2 жыл бұрын

i will try it, thanks 🤣🤣

"Pretend like it's raining" That's a great way to describe the mental frame of mind that the driver should have. Perfectly said!

@scubarubanzaii

11 ай бұрын

In my case, I learned with my wife on the back of a Benelli BN125 on a rainy day in Portugal. It’s legit a good way to think of it.

The last comment about not trying to impress the passenger is an easy trap to fall in. When I was younger, I had a strict rule of No Passengers, and a strict exception if the passenger was attractive. I had to consciously remind myself that the goal wasn’t to impress them, but to get a “second date” and not scare them off. That worked way better than giving them a lecture about leaning and body position so I could ride fast in the canyons and scare them anyway.

@__Razer

2 жыл бұрын

lol at the exception if the passenger is attractive. Do you keep a female sized set of full gear to loan out to your dates? I've never ridden with passenger and, frankly, I agree with you completely, as I would make a rule that I don't ride two up, but I do fantasize riding two up with my crush. I've been wondering if it's in my budget and worth it to buy my girl full gear that she might only use a few times.

@JCintheBCC

2 жыл бұрын

@@__Razer I'm not a big guy at 5'8", so my jackets could usually fit a female passenger, if a little baggy. If you have any interest in being ready for a passenger, having a second helmet is clutch, though. I was able to borrow a spare from a friend the first request, but I ended up buying a second helmet, since I had a couple of classmates that wanted to try out the pillion. Investing $150 or so in a good spare (like a Scorpion EXOR420) so you don't have to say no to that attractive classmate is worth it IMHO. If you think you'll get at least a few uses, it's not that much more than a few dates out, if you think of it that way.

@TheOpi45

2 жыл бұрын

@@__Razer do it my friend :) me and my girlfriend have been together for 1 year she use one of my old helmets and gloves so that cost nothing for me and we made a deal i bought her a jacket and she bought the pants and found some boots on sale for 750 dkk thats 110 dollers the jacket was 3000dkk thats 443 dollers and we have been riding alot she loves it even tho i ride and s1000rr

@Kenanhower

2 жыл бұрын

Im 5’9 and 170lbs and bought all my first set of gear and bought a size small helmet for girls. But a lot of girls wore size medium surprisingly That I kept my old jacket and helmet and gloves when I replaced it and use it for girls. It’s a tad baggy but works

@davidgiffordsr.930

Жыл бұрын

I do remember taking a gf for a ride, she said not too fast, but it was a 900 Kawasaki KZ. Took it up to at least 80 mph. She didn't like it, burred her head in my back. Oh well.

I get many comments from friends on how smoothly I ride solo regardless of the pace... I put it down to many years of almost always riding 2 up with either my wife or step-daughter. I found for new pillions to keep it simple - - look over the turn direction shoulder - acceleration - toes down - braking - heels down - I'll tap your leg to hang on tight - You tap if you want to stop/ talk. A friend made me a small sticker for the back of my helmet that said "Just scream if you want to go faster" 🤣🤣🤣

@musawenkosimaphisa5126

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The biggest conscious change I make in my riding style is an extraordinarily long braking distance, particularly on any decline. Even with hefty rear brake application (as you mentioned) there is a lot of weight shifting over the front end on steeper hills.

@allanespiritu3

2 жыл бұрын

Biggest learning curve when first starting to ride with a pillion. Luckily my wife after two years had enough of riding on the back and we got her her own bike to ride now

@Yutter89

2 жыл бұрын

Doubly so when I weigh as much as most people 2 up lol.

@motojoe7493

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you need engine braking+rear. If you only rely on your front just like when you're solo you'll exert more brake force to stop which would make your motorcycle dive and your passenger to push you forward

@JamieS1992

2 жыл бұрын

i just take longer to brake so there helmet does not smash into the back of mine

4:52 A moment of appreciation for my GF that did 2.5k tours for 2 years with me on the back of a CBR. We're getting a sports tourer soon!

@iam_kuz

3 ай бұрын

bro how small was she to go thru something like that

@Valks-22

3 ай бұрын

​@@iam_kuz 5'9 - we're engaged now, keeper vibes from that alone

@iam_kuz

2 ай бұрын

@@Valks-22 jeez man

That tip at the end. Ride like it's raining, man what a lovely piece of advice. Thanks m8!

I just introduced my friend into the two-wheeled world by hopping on the back of one of the rental mopeds in SF. I explained to her the do’s and don’ts as a passenger. She understood everything very quickly, but she was a little still scared at first. But we went for another ride around the city she had a blast! She’s definitely considering taking a class and getting a scooter for herself!

I introduced may daughter to riding after she started driving and wished to . Our first rides were safe and within her limits. She became an awesome pillion where our confidence grew to a point I could ride with a bit of pep knowing she was enjoying the experience . She is now learning on her own MT03.

When I was younger, I took a passenger out on a date to a beach some 100km away. In the middle of the ride we decided to take a route thru some sand dunes that were reasonably ok to ride (I guessed). I got exited and ended up doing 75KPH on a long descent with her on the back. We never went out again.

@lurtzy_

Жыл бұрын

75 km/h is nothing?

@sk8lucas

Жыл бұрын

@@lurtzy_ those little sand bumps make it seem like it is

That ending comment was so awesome! The honor of introducing someone to riding a motorcycle 😊 it truly is that important 😅 and an extremely huge responsibility. I'm so proud to be someone who gets to ride a motorcycle almost daily. Pure joy these machines!

Great tips. We ride 2 up most of the time & have always enjoyed the rides. I would like to add 1 additional tip, make a habit of pulling the front brakes firmly while your passenger is mounting. This add more stability (with both feet on the ground of course) and you won't get caught rolling at some unexpected inclines.

I remember taking my brother for a 5min ride to his work. We didn't go above 30km/h. He couldn't stop talking about how much fun it was to lean and how fast it felt 🤣

Hhmmm, "bike choice" at 4:20, made me remember my first ever motorcycle when I was 16 - 50cc Jawa, double seater. and giving rides to a neighbor girl.. Never forget her "DD" in my back! Cheers..

Good video, the only thing I want to mention is holding on by the shoulders. This could be a bad idea if you hit a bump or something and could cause the passenger to pull back on the rider's shoulder, and accidentally pulling more throttle.

@brucearena

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely. I always cringe at the idea of pillions grabbing the rider's shoulders

@arjenbootsma6881

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, if I ride with an "inexperienced" passenger, I always tell them to hold on to my hips or torso, or the grab handles on the bike, but to never grab my shoulders or my arms, since that may cause unwanted steering inputs.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

2 жыл бұрын

I've always just told passengers to keep their arms and hands "...anywhere UNDER my arms... such that you feel comfortable and can hold on securely"... Had a buddy who liked scaring girls in high school on the back of his bike... It was mostly fun and funny as hell... Until one that was holding onto his shoulders "freaked out" and ended up locking her arms around his NECK... As luck would have it, he got it stopped and in a few minutes we were all back to laughing (nearly hysterical) again, including the girl... BUT that could have been SOOOoooo bad... ...SO I've just been fairly strict about "below my arms"... I don't really care where or how exactly... wrap around me like a bear-hug,... clench fists into the folds or whatever of my jacket... latch onto the "oh-sh*t" handles on the sides of the bike... whatever floats your boat... Just as long as my arms are free to control the bike, and you're NOT tangling up my neck in a choke-hold... I don't need to pass out, and we BOTH don't really need to die. ;o)

@esatd34

2 жыл бұрын

I dont like myself being held in any way. Get the bikes handles, theyre there for a reason

@bananasaur5209

2 жыл бұрын

@@esatd34 Clearly maidenless

All good points. I also let them know that if they need to adjust their position, they can, as long as they give me a sign and do it when the bike is in a straight flat and nice tarmac or at red lights or stop signs.

@lala45531

2 жыл бұрын

i found that they can dance on the back for all you care as long as you are riding. at slow speeds like 10kph or at a red light its better to sit still.

Man I started riding after a friend took me for a pillion ride on his motorcycle. The same day I bought it off him. Haven't let go of the throttle since. I understand the deep value of giving a motorcycle ride to an associate or friend. Ride safe fellas!

After 30+ years of riding with my wife on back of everything from a 86 GSXR to a Fjr 1300 I've developed 2 distinct riding styles . Solo and 2 up and heaven forbid I ever ride solo with her on back ! Always put the joy and comfort of your passenger first , you'll be rewarded in the long run .

@imyuuki3310

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me, my body have 2 mode when riding which is solo and duo and will automatically adjust whenever i have/not have passenger (usually wife or sister). During duo ride i always told them to just relax and always go on a comfortable speed, but whenever i need to speed up i told them beforehand and if they don't comfortable with it then i won't do it

@johnnyblue4799

2 жыл бұрын

Nope... you'll be rewarded in the evening... :))

@AEdavirgin

2 жыл бұрын

I took the opposite route so my girl won't ask to ride with anymore.

Enter to win a free Kershaw pocket knife here: a.pgtb.me/W6wfPG Check out Ari’s full article on Common Tread about riding with a passenger! rvz.la/3dtLv7b

@dbdan61

2 жыл бұрын

How about you guys hire me for that HR position so I can make my cross country trip on two? Worth a shot 😂

My pillion constantly hated riding on my old naked bike, but since I got a fancy ADV with electronic suspension both myself and passenger are happy to crush miles. Best bike change decision ever!

You are a pro!!! Your presentations are so easy to understand and absorb... Thank you

Been riding with a passenger pretty much ever since I started riding 20 years ago... but I still clicked. The shop manual is just that good! Always something helpful.

I would also add that putting a little bit of upward pressure on the shift lever prior to actually shifting makes the ride a lot smoother. Prevents jerkiness and bumped helmets.

A system I found that works well (if you don’t have BT comms) is telling the pillion to tap my thigh if they need to stop. With a new passenger, sometimes they freak out or just have a gear issue. A dedicated way of getting my attention, at speed, that wouldn’t normally happen (none of my classmates were grabbing my thigh normally) was really helpful.

Another tip is to put a top case on your bike. I know, it might ruin your bike's aesthetic, but the passenger will have something to rest against to. Furthermore, it gives them confidence that they likelihood of flying off the seat is considerably reduced. Plus, they have a small place to put their purse or bags. Excellent video as always Ari!

@coastaku1954

11 ай бұрын

I rode as a pillion on my cousin's Snowmobile, and holy shit did I almost fall off the back of it on some bumps, even with holding onto him

@davidle7807

5 ай бұрын

Yep, sound advice. I ride 2 up with my wife and it gives her confidence and gives me extra room on my back so we're not crushed together.

I think the most important thing is explaining how the passenger has control over the bike by shifting their weight and so it's important they remain in line with the bike. I always explain it like "If I lean right, and you lean left, we go straight" lol

Don't forget that the rear preload adjustment on some bikes (especially older ones) is air pressure. A manual bike pump is a good choice for adjusting these, as the max pressure is usually still pretty low, and the volume is also much lower than a tire, so it can be easy to over pressurize and blow out a shock by just using your regular air compressor set to 100psi.

Very good advice on riding two up. Thank you for this video clip.

Great video. All good information. I always ride like I'm in rain when I have a passenger on the back.....and when it rains I ride like I'm in snow. This is the first time I came across someone that actually says just that. This is a good video to not only watch, but have a new passenger watch as well. I could not have said it better ! Barry

Bravo. I whole heatedly agree with this advice. I was surprised how quickly my 8 year old daughter picked up how to be a good pillion passenger. Give them the low down on what to expect and go easy.

What an awesome video stuffed lot of nice and practical suggestions for rider who want to ride with their passenger!🔥🔥🔥

Great advise as always! Keep up the excellent work!

This video came just in time. I'm about to take my first passenger on a short road trip through the mountains.

Great concept for this video! Great tips especially first ride, pick a gentle cruise route. 2nd time will be much better, yeah.

This is a great no fuss explanation. Love it. Great work again you guys.

OMG he is showcasing an Italika motorcycle from Mexico, that's so cool! Greetings from CDMX folks, I love your content.

I like this dude! Chill and a great presenter, stating facts without being verbose.

Thanks Ari, as always good and helpful tips.

Always enjoy and learn something from your tutorials. Thank you

14yr MSF Beginners Rider Instructor here… Well said instructions Sir, A+.

Very informative! The first time I rode as a pillion with someone else than my Dad or brother almost killed me 😂 Like the guy was doing 70kph on city traffics! After that incident I don't ride as a pillion with someone else than the most trusted people. I always make my pillion wear necessary gears and I try to ride at an even slower pace than usual :)

My tip for riding two up is always do everything a few seconds earlier. Like braking for instance. The first thing that I remember noticing was the amount of extra inertia caused by my pillion.

Taking my partner for our first ride together and her first ride on a motorcycle today. Thanks for the tips. Muchly appreciated

Excellent as always.....thanks Ari!

Always a joy to watch your videos my friends. Stay safe

My wife and I started two up on a sportster. I felt every little thing she did. We bought a road glide special last year. Now I have to reach back and touch her leg to make sure she is still there. It’s fantastic two up on bigger bikes. Way more forgiving.

I always tell my passenger the phrase "always lean with me, keep your chest in line with mine and the ride is smoother." It's all about keeping their center of gravity aligned with your own.

@BlueDevilMoto

2 жыл бұрын

I always tell them to put their head on the same side of mine that coincides with the direction we’re turning. A little thing but it subconsciously helps distribute weight and body position a lot.

@DR4WZ

2 жыл бұрын

Fortnine has a video about riding with a passenger. He actually advises the passenger NOT lean with the driver, but remain as straight up as possible, if I remember correctly.

@BlueDevilMoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@DR4WZ also recall its all relative to your speed. Speed determines everything, lean angle, body position, brake pressure, etc. His video on counter-leaning the bike vs. leaning with the bike might’ve mentioned this also.

@DR4WZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueDevilMoto it's been quite a while since I've watched the one about riding with a passenger, so I may have to rewatch. Him saying it's better for the passenger to remain straight is just what sticks in my mind. It may have been more nuanced than that though...

@DR4WZ

2 жыл бұрын

I rewatched the fortnine video and it seems I was incorrect in my recollection. It really doesn't say passengers should remain straight up, he actually said passengers afraid of moving can be a bad thing. I stand corrected. He does mention for the passengers chest to follow the riders back. Seems this is closer to the original statements others made. Just wanted to correct myself and not spread bad or potentially dangerous information...

Good one after some training and seat time it`s getting more and more comfortable!

My introduction to motorcycles was a pillion ride, but I was quite young, a bit more recent was trying out some of my cousins' toys up north, like a 100ish CC Dirt Bike for kids (Could still haul my 200lbs self just fine) and riding a Yamaha 250cc Supermoto illegally around a small subdivision, two awesome experiences that I will remember forever

Spot on! Thank you for the cool post, TSM

Ok I've been waiting for this video from you guys a lot, but I gotta say I'm most definitely surprised that you guys showed an Italika ft125 I'm like wtf? , I'm from Mexico and that's one of the most seen delivery bikes around, enough of that, thanks for the awesome job explain and giving recommendations 👍🏻

Wow, I've been riding for almost 20 years and never noticed the recommended psi when riding two. Thanks for the added knowledge 🤙

Great lil video

Love the 'pretend it's raining' advice - gonna remember that 😀

Did it for the first time yesterday. She was definitely more nervous than me, judging by the deathgrip she had around my waist at the start. But it got to the point where she was barely holding on at all. Just ride slow and smooth. You can throw in some speed later on.

Thanks. Really good info.

This is a great sgort and sweet video, thanks!

When I did my driving school we had our instructor sitting behind as a passenger. It wasn't easy as me 14 year old carrying 100+ kg heavy person. It took some practice before going out of the yard into the town

My first time on a bike was being the passenger on a panigale 1299. My entire neck and back started hurting after 30 minutes, even though we weren't going fast or anything.

That is a great tip about treating it like it's raining when riding two up.

Good stuff! Thank you.

lol, the last time I took my friend as a pillion on a 500km ride, all I did was asked the mechanic if the bike will run for 500km. He said, changing the engine fluid and increasing tire pressure will do the job. It ran, we were going at 90kmph+ on Nepal's narrow windy roads. It was a blast.

Great advice! And I love Kershaw knives. Made in the USA, carry everyday.

@KershawKnivesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Waylon! 👊

Excellent series.

excellent info. Thanks

I love how both you and the passenger shook your heads when sitting on the sportsbike LOL

As usual, very well done.

Awesome video and editing !

Thanks. Nice pointers.

I haven’t been riding long and a cute girl thru friends suggested we go for a ride soon. Thanks for the tips

I ride a KTM RC 390 and I have taken 2 girls on the back 😅 didn’t adjust the suspension. I did have them wear proper gear tho and told them how to get on and off and how to hold me. I find it more fun riding solo tho it can be stressful with a passenger

Awesome vid. Ride safe, god bless u all.

My first time on a bike was as a passenger on a race track with a pro rider. I was scared shitless......and I loved it😊

Lol I didn't know there was this much to it, me and the boys just hop on our rides in shorts and go around our day

La poderosisima Italika FT150 haciendo presencia mexicana en Revzilla ✌🏼🇲🇽

Really good advice 👍

okay here's a quick tip, go eeexxtreemmllyy easy on the throttle and breaks cuz us riders dont feel the jerking as much becuz we're expecting it and have handle bars to hold on to, the passenger on the other hand will feel every single bump and jerk

great video. Thanks

Excellent suggestions

My cousins and I learned to ride by taking turns riding two-up with each other on my uncle's raggedy old 125cc in shorts while we coached each other. His drum brakes barely work, the rear brake stops about as hard as blowing air out of your mouth and his carb runs so rich, it pops and crackles every time you let off the throttle. Speaking of throttle, his throttle was so tight, we had to squeeze to turn it. And his clutch was dead from start to like 2/3rds if the way with a couple millimeters between nothing and full bite. Our arms were aching by the end of the days and our butts were sore from the awful vibration, but we learned a lot and it was hella fun. Now, riding alone feels like riding a bicycle because there's so little weight and the bike likes to go so readily.

love this vid

I introduced a girl to motorcycling over 40 years ago. I guess I didn't scare her because she married me anyway. We're still married. Not riding anymore because old bones don't belong on a bike.

Well presented. When I take a passenger, whether for the first or hundredth time, I consider my role to be an ambassador to the world of motorcycling. Everything I do for my passengers you have covered here. Thanks for sharing!

The note about responsibility is key. When you take a passenger, you are potentially accepting responsibility for their life and limb. It pays to take a moment to consider that. And just as well, you should talk over the risks of motorcycle riding with any passenger you take. Let them know what might happen, what things are dangerous, and make a plan together on how you together want to handle those risks. And always, always stick to that plan. And finally: Never talk someone into riding by saying it's totally safe. Have an honest, risk aware discussion about it.

this was fantastic

As usual, 100% sound advice.

Definitely some good advice

Two up rider for a decade now. Great tips!

Great tips.

I've given a lot of people their first rides on a motorcycle. Every single one of them has asked for a repeat! I've never scared them away! I tend to ride very VERY carefully when I have a passenger. However once I went on a group ride in Utah and two of the guys on fast sportbikes had passengers. When we stopped at a gas station, the girls were discussing getting an Uber home because they were scared. One of them said she tried, but there was no signal where we were.

One thing I would add is that if possible, go for a ride as a passenger. It makes world of a difference understanding how the pillion feels when riding with you.

I LOVE having a passenger on my bike because it made me a lot more road conscious and ride safer, making sure the other person is comfortable.

@h.d.h

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! I pay attention to everything when I'm with a passenger.

Great advices. Greetings from Ecuador.

Great info 👍

The steering geometry change really does take some getting used to with a passenger. So keep that in mind if you're not experienced having somebody on the back. It will make your bike feel totally different.

That last comment though. Picked up my then new boyfriend during rush hour in DC. Me just normally riding through traffic almost ended it right there. Thankfully he trusted me again and I learned real quick that it’s more terrifying for a passenger fitting through tiny places between regular cars and delivery trucks.

Jack O'Shea always has great tips!

Where did you get that Italika?! And why do you have one?😆 I’m from Mexico and we obviously see them everywhere, but I didn’t know you could get them in the US. Gracias por el video!!

Great tips. I only dislike the suggestion of the passenger grabbing the rider's shoulders as I believe it can lead to poor handling and even a crash. I always ask my pillions to grab either the handles on the side of my motorcycle or my thighs as it doesn't produce interference with handling. Cheers Ari

"In today's episode of Ari's dating advice...." 😂 Great video as always. 😊