People aren’t talking about how Man City had to go on their greatest ever unbeaten run just to be two points ahead of Arsenal

@6ixTacos

15 күн бұрын

This doesn’t mean anything. City have gotten to 100 points and the upper 90s a lot of times in the recent past. They’ve drawn more games than usual but it doesn’t mean that they are on this dream run.

@eyesopen66

15 күн бұрын

​@@6ixTacos Great comments pal

@eyesopen66

15 күн бұрын

Manchester City have had 100pts one season and 98pts the next...etc etc

@yash96819

15 күн бұрын

lol, all it means is City are number 1 as of now

@brianmuchemi7111

14 күн бұрын

Can't you say when they were reaching 100pts they squads were weak just like the way people were saying arsenal last season was playing against weaker sides

I don't know why everyone continue to associate Arsenal with the word bottle, but Liverpool is let off the hook

@SkatePvP10

15 күн бұрын

But if they bottled it didn't you?

@husseinjmakshofi2697

15 күн бұрын

Yes. Liverpool should be renowned for dropping it at this point.

@user-wb5es4gs8d

15 күн бұрын

​​@@SkatePvP10they had a 5 point lead, they've been top the longest followed by city, they've been favourites or second favourites all season. Remember how everyone was quoting mourinhio a few months ago? "Liverpool 45, City 55, Arsenal no". Get rid of the hate it blinds you

@janysmahoney1271

15 күн бұрын

Rottnam, Utd an other runners-up have bottled it cos they've come 2nd too Infact every club whose come 2nd in history since football began have Bottled it, not just in their respective leagues but in Cup Competitions ( including England, Spain, Italy, Argentina, Germany an every other National side who finished runners up by your assessment

@ngyonghuei6577

14 күн бұрын

Because everyone associate 97 points and 92 points with the word bottle. Why you think Arsenal need to be let off the hook?

only trolls say arsenal have bottled the league. Their record since christmas is fantastic, city. even more so.

@AK47_.

15 күн бұрын

They lost to Villa. If they don’t win the league, they have thrown it away. No one will remember the ‘nearly team’.

@Jack-no9ml

15 күн бұрын

​ On game e we all lose ffS

@simplyharshad

15 күн бұрын

​@AK47_. no one will remember are the ppl who are just trolls n haters. we all remember how good klopp built thr liverpool squad and that could beat city to title only once and we still rate him as best coach. the fans, the club, the pundits and the all ones who associate themselves with the game respect it. every season is foundation for the nxt season.. thr is a continous work thay goes from season to season. nothing resets on day 1 of new season

@jaydash6013

15 күн бұрын

at the end of the day that’s how losers talk you lot say tottenham are okay with losing but make excuses when arsenal don’t win you lot have always said Tottenham celebrate failure by being proud of making it to a ucl final but it’s okay too lose the prem because another team was better 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Jack-no9ml

15 күн бұрын

@@jaydash6013 has anyone beaten city for nearly 5 yrs ?

Sorry, you cannot be labelled "bottler" with 89 points

@ngyonghuei6577

14 күн бұрын

But ppl labelled 97 points and 92 points as bottler. Why the double standard?

@rrjgpl

14 күн бұрын

@@ngyonghuei6577not all people, just trolls trying to wind others up

@cameronuy9552

14 күн бұрын

​@ngyonghuei6577 The noise of a few idiots always seem to take precedent over the silence of the vast majority. Every single real football fan would appreciate their achievements. These trolls are mostly young folk, hence the catchphrase bottlers. Older guys and true supporters don't use the word. We just live the game and appreciate amazing teams across generations.

@barryh.4220

12 күн бұрын

As a City fan I don't see Arsenal as bottling it this season, they are still in position to possibly win it on the final day of the season ffs ..... yes, they suffered the 'hitch' in the home game with Villa, but they have recovered superbly .... its just that City haven't relented and allowed them back in , so far!.... the very second, six games ago, that City knew for CERTAIN they HAD to WIN the last six games, was the second that the City machine went up a gear from most of their performances this season, and suddenly here we are, at the wire, and Arsenal living in hope.

@cameronuy9552

12 күн бұрын

@barryh.4220 As a neutral who just loves amazing football, I couldn't agree more. People let their biases and hate for a club cloud their reasoning skills. Any fan of the game can agree that Arsenal have been brilliant. Its just that city are city and they do what they do.

Liverpool were 5 points clear in February with the easiest run it but the question is if Arsenal bottled the league. Thats it. Im off the internet.

@jonbolton491

15 күн бұрын

Both bottled it.

@Rain188

15 күн бұрын

Liverpool was hard done by corrupt refrees

@Jack-no9ml

15 күн бұрын

​@@jonbolton491 arsenal lost 1 game Liverpool lost lol Loads

@Jack-no9ml

15 күн бұрын

@rain188. Excuse mate b

@jonbolton491

15 күн бұрын

Losing lots of games is not the definition of bottling. Bottling means throwing away a lead. You can say that Liverpool bottled it MORE. But both bottled it. Without the loss to Villa Arsenal would be on top.

If you tend to use the term bottled then you cant be taken serious!

Unfortunately for Liverpool and Arsenal,they are doing well in the era of City' s dominance

See how the media is quiet about liverpool .

the term 'bottle' is just the trending word of the times, people will use it anytime anywhere to feel relevant and get under people's skin, as an arsenal fan, I think you could argue that the use of the term 'bottle' was warranted last season despite the expectations at the start of the season and the fact that this man city side is the best ever team in the epl (because we were so many points clear and we crumbled at the end of the season), this season we did not 'bottle' anything

@user-tb3vg1dy8d

15 күн бұрын

Dude wrote an entire essay without using a single period… Considering you are an Arsenal fan, it’s impressive you can even write.. Arsenal fans finally got what they deserved.. A lot of heartache and a manager who only delivered Champions League football (and an FA cup)

@user-tb3vg1dy8d

15 күн бұрын

You did BOTTLE it because even though you knew that City would go on their typical season ending winning streak, you still could not beat Villa at HOME 😂😂😂 It was actually in your hands and you. BOTTLED it. And crashed out of the CL vs Bayern 😂😂😂

@lukaslesniak1415

15 күн бұрын

@@user-tb3vg1dy8d grilling me on the punctuation is crazy considering how you used your periods lol, also you just proved my point exactly about the kind of people who throw the term 'bottle' around so thank you, throw in a few more laughing emojis next time to really make your comments stand out

@user-tb3vg1dy8d

15 күн бұрын

@@lukaslesniak1415 I could claim that I omitted a third period due to a typo. Your “claims” are that of a delusional and salty BOTTLERS fan who can’t cope with the reality that your team is overhyped by the Arsenal PR machine. Anyone who is not an Arsenal fan is laughing at your sad organization right now 😂 😂

@user-tb3vg1dy8d

15 күн бұрын

You have BOTTLED it for the third season running. At least there is always “next year” for you!!

People have no clue what the term bottle even means anymore . How can you bottle something you’re not expected to win ?

No, Arsenal hasn’t. But Liverpool did bottle it.

@jonbolton491

15 күн бұрын

Both bottled it.

@theach84

15 күн бұрын

@@jonbolton491just like you bottled this comment

@jonbolton491

15 күн бұрын

@@theach84 Bottling the league means surrendering the lead. Full stop. If Man City fails to win West Ham on Sunday we will.say they have bottled it. That's it. It's not too complicated.

@ngyonghuei6577

14 күн бұрын

If 97 points and 92 points is bottle so what make you think below 90 isn't bottle?

@simmienyathi3746

14 күн бұрын

​@@jonbolton491So every team that does not win the league bottled it then😂😂😂

"There's something missing at Arsenal" My question is would that statement hold true if Son scored at Spurs or if City slip up on Sunday? It's just small margins not necessarily anything missing at this point. Last season yes, there was something missing. This season no.

@ikeman9784

15 күн бұрын

Thank you bro. It's literally fine margins/luck that's gone for citeh. Son scores that 1 v 1 9 outta 10 times. He scores arsenal are champions then the narrative changes. There's literally been nothing between the 2 teams this season. Matter of fact arsenal has beaten citeh 2 outta 3 times and drawn 1 this season..

lol I love the bottle word. It helps me know who is having a serious football conversation and who isn’t.

@Wazza555

10 күн бұрын

Good philosophy

No one is talking about Liverpool who were on top with 8 points

Liverpool bottled the league not Arsenal. You can't say Liverpool are a better team going forward than Arsenal. That's not true.

VAR bottled it. They robbed Arsenal of a point each at Newcastle and Villa

@edzico1908

13 күн бұрын

@Damian_Drake when truth can't find your path

@stnbch3025

12 күн бұрын

​@@edzico1908 ... path. You blame a referee.

He says “you haven't won the Premier League” ? Its not over yet. Its not over till its over.

If losing 1 game in the premier League in 2024 is considered bottling then idk

@Zacksolos2007

15 күн бұрын

They lost to west ham too

@silentobserver9418

15 күн бұрын

​@@Zacksolos2007not in 2024

No, the Gunners have been the best team of this season, except they lost to Villa at home which was such a decisive game. I am a United supporter but I have to say Arteta and his team can hold their heads up no matter they win the league or not.

Missing timber early on was unfortunate

@thebandthatisDAVE

15 күн бұрын

He will be the new sighing next season

@wapanglemdur

14 күн бұрын

Actually we didn't miss him that much

@achuthp.k4567

14 күн бұрын

​@@wapanglemdurQuite the opposite. Timber's dribbling ability could have been the great asset to this Arsenal team. Martinelli needed support in attacking phase on the left side.

@jaycampbell1992

14 күн бұрын

1 major injury during the whole season shouldn’t be stopping winning the league

@achuthp.k4567

14 күн бұрын

@@jaycampbell1992 City's main asset is their quality bench strength. Arsenal had a weakness in that LB position throughout the season. Zinchenko not so reliable, Tomiyasu injury ridden, Kiwior an okay backup. This personal change severally affected Gunner 's attack from left hand side. This was the reason Arsenal is overly depending on Saka and Ødegaard. So yes, in long run it can make a difference in title chase.

Where was this headline when Liverpool crashed out of the title race? Very weird

Btw, Arsenal has had the most difficult run of games in the last couple of weeks from the front three teams this season. Liverpool had the “easiest “ run and nobody is talking about them throwing away the league. Credit to Arteta and all the Arsenal team. Whatever happens we keep our hunger and we eventually win the league.

Nope, Arsenal totally bottled it. The fans were comparing and saying Arsenal is way better than Madrid because of a couple games😂

@trevorstatham4451

14 күн бұрын

Arsenal is better than Madrid lol. Even Liverpool and City are. Madrid this year are plain average

There's nothing missing at Arsenal. Best defense and best attack in the EPL? Could they do with unlimited funding, maybe..but the team is solid. They're just up against a behemoth of a team with more experience at winning stuff. Every year Arsenal keeps learning and can only get better.

The criticism comes from deep hate, imagine being a Tottenham, United and Chelsea and talking rubbish about Arsenal 😂😂

@benjamindadzie9657

15 күн бұрын

They have no shame... They are ridiculing me for being at 2nd position yet none is in Top 4

What a ridiculous title, this is Arsenals statistically best ever season.

To be fair, the abundance of American fans and coverage has dumbed down the convo.

@HouseNoir

14 күн бұрын

American fans aren't using the term bottled.

It's ridiculous to say they 'bottled it'. Then does every team that finishes second or third in every league every season be labelled as bottlers? If they are called bottlers then what do you call Liverpool when they suffered a complete meltdown in the last two months. Arsenal dropped points only twice in the second half of the season, compared to dropping points 8 games in 2023. If anything they had overachieved in 2024 by digging themselves out from behind the pack to top the table for a very short period of the season. The reason you think they 'bottled it' was because the table always showed Arsenal in lead for long periods but again that is only because the City always had games in hand under the schedule. If City and Arsenal had their matches in sync, the table would show City in the lead most of the time and Arsenal doing the chasing.

I would only say any team “bottled” it if they had everything going for them and there is no reasonable explanation on why they started dropping points. For Arsenal last year, the loss of Saliba was the end of it, it so dramatically changed how arsenal were at the back and less secure whilst also missing Thomas Partey quite a lot. For Liverpool this year, the injuries they had and to even be in the position they were was crazy winning week after week, when the bubble did eventually burst against United I feel that things finally caught up. When so many players come back after injury, it’s not the same level of cohesion and I almost feel Liverpool started getting too many players back at the same time. Neither team bottled it in my opinion. The whole bottled it narrative oversimplifies the actual analysis of what happened and fails to give credit where it’s due. Liverpool were so impressive this season and so was Arsenal.

arsenal is the only team put up a fight till the end while others team give up in the middle...how come ppl say arsenal bottled it mindblowing...or those ppl really wanna see epl become farming league like ligue1?

This is ridiculous; How can Arsenal be ridiculed. A team that made the title challenge looked better than other leagues which already have their winners? Only a small minded fellow will see it as if Arsenal bottled it. What did Arsenal bottled? Losing to Aston Villa is normal and then continues to to win the rest of their matches with this form and losers think what? Bottling? Like those are real haters of Arsenal. Kudos to them (Arsenal)

I think some critics are looking for relevance. In the end there are 2 teams that had a good season and one got luckier

Talking about unfortunate schedules, look at the UCL-PL-UCL schedule of the last three years for Man City. Way tougher. Good teams make it happen no matter what

If arsenal don’t sell players for more than £100M this summer and spend similarly to last summer + don’t win anything next season, they will have to sell key players, hence they will be were Chelsea are in terms of having to sell players in order to comply with FFP/PSR. Reasoning for this, due to Arsenal’s spending habits they’ve accumulated more than £55M loss every year Arteta have been in charge and more than £120M loss in the past 3 years. This is what needs to be discussed and spread around more.

Fulham at home was that game that lost us the league. Drawing with a team down to 10 men, leading after 80 mins should be played over and over again to these players as a reminder and motivation to win it next season.

Last season the main reason was the Saliba injury, the defense fell apart and they lacked the depth needed. This year is just very small margins between them and City, could have gone either way.

This shouldn’t even be a debate

Did Liverpool bottle the league? Weren’t they 5 points ahead? Didn’t Liverpool collapse? Man Utd knocked them out of FA Cup and they collapsed thereafter.

They haven’t done anything that Poch’s Tottenham haven’t. And Tottenham and Poch get nothing but criticism.

@jeanjacqueslundi3502

15 күн бұрын

Difference is Arsenal fans are the boisterous kind, whereas Spurs fans are not.

@theach84

15 күн бұрын

Did Poch have competition as good as pep in 2024 2022. Did Poch ever get to 86 or 89 points? Poch was in a title race with Leicester Even came 3rd in that race. Let’s act like this Arsenal team is just as good as that poch team

@colmd7680

15 күн бұрын

Pochs best season was in pursuit of an excellent Chelsea team but never got closer then 4 points and league was done with 3 games to go. City are a different prospect altogether. Havent lost in 23 games and were said not to be playing well!!. Arsenal make just one mistake since new year and thats enough to lose a league.

@BMW_Z4idiot

15 күн бұрын

didn't Tottenham win the league in Oct?

@chriskey7440

15 күн бұрын

Arteta won an FA Cup.... That destroys your entire comment, better luck next time.

Arsenal will finish 16-0-1 in 2024, 8 goals conceded. That's an amazing run. They just came up against a Man City machine in their run in since Dec.

They just described the definition of bottling. 😂

Arsenal were third favourites. Everyone had Liverpool winning the league and they've been irrelevant in this title race, yet no bottle tag. Anyone trying to label Arsenal bottlers are miserable, clueless and should watch another sport

They love to associate Arsenal with negative headlines to get views.

Still goes back to the Newcastle game and VAR decision that Joelinton "didn't foul the defender by climbing on his shoulders" to score. Fine margins meant there can't be a bottling.

“Ran out of steam against villa” who also played in Europe that same week, who also beat Arsenal twice and beat Man City more comprehensively than any other team this season

Does that mean that every team who tops the table have "bottled" it. After 1 game, 10, 30? This is crazy. At least they have got close. United, Chelsea, Liverpool have spent fortune's and not got close.

With a win this Sunday, we will equal MCFC points from their winning season of 22/23. When you equal the winning tally from the previous season, how can anyone say it was a bottle?

Flying kits situations son's intentional miss makes me feel different so that term bottled the league I never wanna hear that seriously I have seen some syndicate like situations as much I love the EPL

I have finally found a good sports podcast about the premier league. Credit to all of you, in particular to Harry. As an Arsenal supporter myself I am happy to also find a really good sport journalist that knows what is talking about my team. Everywhere else I can only see and hear biased comments and envy but in this podcast I truly see the truth. Keep the good work lads.

Lazy journalism with click bait headline

"He shouldn't have let Odegaard take that picture, absolutely disgraceful." 😂😂😂

Arsenal is getting more criticism in the media for competing with City till the last day than Liverpool who spent the most time staying on the summit of the league and even Chelsea fans whose fans are celebrating being in the Top 6 are bantering Arsenal. Quite the conundrum.

They took 4 of 6 points from City, 4 of 6 from Liverpool, Villa was their kryptonite this year.

Let's not gloss over the fact that Arteta splashed £700 million over five years to win just one FA Cup. And now, here you are, *trophyless for the second straight season* despite hovering in the top 2 for so long. Bottle FC

James banging this Arsenal aren’t good in open play when they’ve got nearly 70 goals outside of set pieces, fucking every time he talks Arsenal he talks as if set pieces is everything

Thought arsenal would fade like last season, but they have been great this season got there best points total and went far in Europe. Think it's crazy saying arsenal didn't have a great season.

Liverpool had it in their hands. Where is the debate on Klopp?

Adjusted for games played, Arsenal have the most points of any team in the Premier League in 2024...yet people still want to say Arsenal bottled it. That's crazy! What happened is that Arsenal had a very slight wobble before the winter break so they went into 2024 5-8 points down from the leaders.

They did. It’s okay. They’re set up well for the future

last season they deserved to be criticised, they were 10 points ahead and were top for 90% of the season and completely fell apart towards the end, this season they have improved a lot, but once again have just about fell short, you could say they bottled it when they lost at home to Aston Villa, but this season i dont think they have bottled it, they have pushed Man City all season, Man City are just a machine regardless, Man City win because of their experience and consistency over the years, you have to be consistent throughout the whole season to somehow get ahead of Man City, Arsenal could finish with 100 points while Man City could finish with 102 points, thats just how good they are

@TheChampIsHere_

15 күн бұрын

Arsenal were never 10 points clear last szn do you even watch football 😂

@junk301

15 күн бұрын

@@TheChampIsHere_ Unfortunately, a large..and perhaps hateful fanbase like Arsenal is going to get all sorts of weird banter. They had a 5 point lead on equal games played, but no one cares apparently.

@nnamdio3129

15 күн бұрын

They were never 10 pts clear 😂. This bottling story keeps changing 😂. Next it will be Arsenal were 15 pts ahead.

@kc270352

14 күн бұрын

@TheChampIsHere_ well maybe it was 8 points or something then, they definitely had a huge lead at one point last season

@nnamdio3129

14 күн бұрын

@@kc270352 it was 8 pts and city had 1 game in hand, basically 5 pts. And they still had to play City.

They didn’t fail, City has basically 2 starting squads in the team and win the last 50 games of the season since they have breached tons of financial rules and they’ve been able to build a squad beyond everyone Look at Liverpool, who actually loses a title in any other league with 97 pts?

Yes and it will keep going and going………….

“Bottling” is just obviously a troll word. You could level it at every team that came second or worse in history by only focusing on moments where a team didn’t take maximum points. Football is getting boring, particularly fans.

Arsenal had the hardest running, after last season people said that was arsenal's best chance to win the league even when they were not predicted to challenge, Liverpool actually bottled the league because they had the easiest running. And if people are saying arsenal bottled the league this season why didn't they say the same to klopp who lost the league twice on the last day?

Well it could be Harry's kids fault...

They bottled it last year didn’t this year - but didn’t go for it and risk it as much as could’ve ie played by or 0-0 v city as opposed to going for win

@TheKh65

15 күн бұрын

Going for the win and lose completely. Tell me how many teams have gone to the Etihad, played open play, and won in the last 3 years?

Silly clickbait. Liverpool BOTTLED it not Arsenal. Man City have had to go on their longest unbeaten run in history just to have their noses ahead of the Arsenal in the run-in and yet you choose to gaslight fans with this nonsense caption? nah nah y'all silly.

2pts ? City have beaten Pool by 19,9,1,17 an im sure Chelsea bt Rotters by 9ish pts about 7yrs ago an all the runner-up were lauded so why is it only Arsenal who r critiqued? Pool were ontop from December -March an all pundits said Arsenal had no chance of winning it from the end of last season and especially due t them having the hardest run-in,so u can't bottle what you were not expected to win

Liverpool not being asked how and why, with salah and klopp and leading the league by 5 expecting to go 8 clear when they played arsenal are now 8pts behind? Did Liverpool with all their experience bottle the league and Europa? Or is it only a new manager to be discussed?

How could a disappointment is not on the EPL? Are you kidding, 115.

There is always a microscope on Arteta on Arsenal.

Yes Jim! Get in there, ESPN dollaz coming your way. Good on ya.

You have to be there to have a chance

Yes

RIDICULOUS indeed. Liverpool bottled it with a 5 point lead and no one is talking about that. Arsenal still needs 1 or 2 more players to compete and be more competitive next season. 89 points and bottled the league.? goshhh.

This should never be a question. They just hate arsenal

YES!

Clive Palmer getting a mention.

What is the purpose of this debate?

why City get away with all those charges? totally unfair for the rest.

They've lost *ONE* game in 2024. They've set a club record for most wins in a season. Still not enough. Of course they haven't bottled it. City have just raised the bar to a level that's hard for anyone else to match.

He should have tried to win the Fa Cup or league cup to get the winning mentality before the

City spent 9 game weeks on top Liverpool spent 12 game weeks on top Arsenal spent 11 game weeks on top So Arsenal actually spent the second longest on top

Whoever says Arsenal bottled the league are the ones who mothers bottled, not swallowing them 🎉

Liverpool were the ones that spectacularly bottled the title, but no one wants to say it.

NO, NEVER. We are glad we are here where we are.

City fan. Truth is Arsenal (and Liverpool) have earned our respect. The rest of the country can mock, but they haven't been through the mangle (yet again) as we have. Hope WE don't bottle it on Sunday.

No thats absurd

Ignorant ppl criticising a better person at football. so u devote a whole show about irrelevant narratives!

Without Arsenal in the headline theen no traction

If Arsenal is criticise for bottle the league and except for liverpool then the rest of the 17 team is what? they can't even see the bottle, somtimes ppl have to be realistic there only one team that can win it.

Everything u said was bang on until u slid in the bit about Odegaard shouldn't have taken the pic and that it was disgraceful... U all need to grow up and get over it 😂😂😂

It’s a great shame Arsenal lost the game with Villa at home . When you want to win the league you have to be able to be better than City in every game and that is extremely difficult with the quality and experience that they have .Everyone has to be able to except criticism especially if you want to be a winner.

@edzico1908

15 күн бұрын

And you failed to mention that VAR robbed Arsenal of a point each at Newcastle and Villa with dubious decisions. SHAME!!!

Liverpool got criticised when finishing 2nd on 99 points..... says it all

@derickjd5274

15 күн бұрын

Liverpool never finished 2nd with 99 points. It was 97. They won it with 99 points in 2020

Bellend in cap say can’t say arsenal throw it away as not expected to win start of season and top least amount of time of top 3 - yet says spurs were 3rd in two horse race when spurs were never top and never clear favourites and arsenal were top for few months that season

We cup, plate, and bottle it out to city last season, but this season no

For GOD sake, Liverpool missed out on many occasions against MC, yet somehow, they were never bottlers, yet Arsenal are Bottlers, this should not even be a question

The weekend of the Aston villa game, it was in the hands of Liverpool. Even you people who discuss the topic are trying to disrespect arsenal. Why don't you discuss bottling of Liverpool because they were leading during the weekend of Aston villa game and they took spent lots of money

Welcome to liverpool fan club and enjoy frustration that we experienced in last 5 seasons

Hang on a minute. Im sure Liverpool were favourites a couple of months ago. But they get a pass. Arsenal takes City to game week 38 and are bottlers? Jesus christ 😂