I was on team Issac until I opened up both of their pdga pages for the year and sorted by place, and then it was clear. Calvin is the player of the year. His season was crazy good.

Brodie’s point that Calvin’s worst finish was Isaac’s average finish was a crazy stat to put forward. That should settle it right away. Over every style of course over the whole year, Calvin proved he can be in contention no matter what the course was. Isaac is a specialist and excels at certain types of courses. It just happens that the Majors he won were at courses that suited his style whereas Calvin proved he has the ability to win at any and every course and did it the whole year

@mortenlundkristensen7050

8 ай бұрын

Champions cup was definitely wooded, but worlds was highly varied holes that demanded a lot of skill across a variation of shots. And the temperature of Isaacs blood is waaay lower than Calvins - not really buying your argument

@the_undersea_astronauts

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@mortenlundkristensen7050here’s another one: calvin beat isaac 16 to 6. any player can pop off in a tournament and win. Isaac is great but his stats for the whole year speak for themselves. he got his title: world champion. Calvin’s is POTY not player for a couple tournaments

@mortenlundkristensen7050

8 ай бұрын

I guess coming from competitive team sports i dont value top finishes as you do. The objective is to win and while anyone 'can" do it there is a reason that Isaac is the world champion. And while the stats and scorecards don't have pictures or vid ive seen the tournaments where Calvin put himself in the drivers seat and then forgot how to drive (well, putt) so many times it hurts my eyes.

@the_undersea_astronauts

8 ай бұрын

@@mortenlundkristensen7050i get that its just that if the award was who won the most then Gannon is POTY because he has the most tour wins. from a team’s sports perspective, i am a big college football fan. grew up in Alabama, but im an Auburn fan. there are plenty of instances in which Auburn pulled off a crazy win against Alabama in the Iron Bowl. just because they had one incredible win doesnt mean they are a better team than Alabama over the season. obviously the biggest difference is that wins are the measure of success in that sport. but again id say if the POTY was based on wins alone then Isaac isnt even in contention for that. i definitely agree tho. as a huge calvin fan it has been exceedingly frustrating to see him miss multiple inside the circle putts that costed him the W. if he made like 1/3 of those then he would have won an insane amount of tournaments this year

@Discsforbaskets

8 ай бұрын

​@the_undersea_astronauts if just any player can pop off and win, why is worlds even seen as prestigious? It's just always someone having a good tournament I guess?

The segment with Brian was excellent. Great job guys, you asked really good questions. Brian gave good answers and explanations that seemed very honest instead of just blindly defending his employer. Well done.

@realcourier20

8 ай бұрын

I thought the questions were backwards

Rickys laugh at house of dicks was instant

Everyone just fast forward past 57:50 nothing to hear

@chrism4008

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Chaser90EK

8 ай бұрын

You and Uli are adorable man-children 🤣🤣🤣

Calvin says is best at 1:46:18. If your POTY argument is just whomever won Worlds by default , then why give two different awards for the same single accomplishment? Calvin is POTY 2023 hands down.

Zach Melton and Calvin Heimburg Podcast would be great!!!!!! 🤪

Calvin rules. Keep being real brother.

@craigbuchanan9176

8 ай бұрын

Top tier people all. Brodie needs to go rockhounding with Luke and Vinny sometime.

I think Ricky said it best. The fact that there was a cut AND a reset made it so that the battles at the top AND the bottom were irrelevant for the first two rounds. The most interesting part of the first two rounds was the “battle for 12th” which is never a good thing. The other thing, the end of year schedule next year is a nightmare for fans. If they’re worried about fans not showing up, just look at next year. In a row, it goes: Worlds, Playoff, Playoff, USDGC, Tour Championship, Champions Cup.

@bulkbogan4320

8 ай бұрын

Probably has the best putting style ever..

Shout out to House of Dicks and Dickies! The MVP of this episode!👏🏿👏🏿😂😂

Thank you for the shoutout of our Trophy for our tournament coming up this weekend! Wish you could have found the video to show off the trophies when they light up.

57:50 is THE greatest moment in Tour LIfe history. Crackle Gang approved.

@selfawarepotassium

8 ай бұрын

Nailed it. So awesome.

@HaikesXO

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Everything in this podcast was incredible!

You guys know how I feel about things. Dig ya’. Keep in touch.

Add a sponsorship brand team tournament at the beginning of each season. 4-8 players from each brand represented plays in either a tennis or cross country scoring style. This would allow brands to get their new roster up in front of people, as well as allowing lesser known brands to get some airtime, while being lined up against the pros from the big brands. They'd have to have a play in tournament though (possibly giving a bye to top 4 or so teams from last season), fixing the number of teams that makes the tournament, allowing the cream to rise, bur parity to exist, say 8-12 teams. It'd put more meaning behind the terms like "Team Discraft", etc...

Calvin could be the next Steven Wright!

Best Tour Life episode so far; the content, the guests and the funny moments.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I’m so with Brian on his first pet peeve

Best episode yet.

Add Brian as the final panelist on Tour Life next season please and thank you.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

He would make a great addition

Holy smokes, the content you would get from Calvin and Melton visiting you will be nothing short of gold. Hope you can make it happen!

Saturday and Sunday are the more popular days for fans, and not knowing who’s going to be there, as a fan, why would I commit to go see it.

Calvin looking a little toasty

Calvin is the biggest Chad on the dgpt..

I went to TC last year and spectating was very challenging due to course layout. I know they worked on it this year and cleared trees, but I chose not to go this year and chose usdgc and passed on TC in 2023. After watching coverage this year, I'll continue to pass on TC

Calvin even has the best audio in the disc golf scene ! What a player of the year.

Champions Cup is akin to the PGA Championship. A major in name only. Worlds, USDGC and European Open are all significantly bigger in my opinion.

IMHO the player of the year is essentially the season MVP.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. I think they are different names for the same award.

I think the semi-final/final format is ok. I think they should change it to where the first day is a play-in for the top 24 who missed the finals in a one round playoff with the top 4 advancing. From there make it a 3 round tournament with stroke advantages similar to this year. All 36 play the final 3 rounds. I think this might create some excitement especially the first day to see who can make it in plus it would make it a bit more interesting for spectators than having just 8-12 players to watch.

House of dicks was hilarious. Playing New London Tech in a couple of weeks for the first time, I’m terrified but can’t wait!

Ricky being on the pod when brodie had the funniest goof was so perfect because Ricky is hilarious. I havent had a good belly laugh like that in awhile.

U guys should clip out the interviews and make them into videos a week after or so. It’s tuffer than it needs to be to find an old foundation interview

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Sounds good!

I feel like the USDGC is right up there with Worlds now.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Its def 2nd

They should make the pro tour championship a match play tournament and points sent you seed.

Look I'm in at the $10 a day get on the grounds, I'm definitely out at $25 ... And I'm an enthusiast player myself ... I mean think about it ... $50-75 per person per weekend well congrats I'm not going alone, and so I'm likely buying someone else's ticket too, and then I'm not going to get to spend all day there since I'm bringing a friend. Okay a weekend on the course for me and a friend for $40 is tempting, $100-150 isn't

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

I think $25 is too high

No one went to that tournament because literally everyone blew their bank on usdgc the weekend prior

Agree with Brian. Depth perception is a skill.

There's way more leniency in prison, there's way more opportunities to have nice things in prison like a TV cellphone, some airforce 1s. County jail is like a mental institution with more aggression and less being strapped to a bed

@theemonegro

8 ай бұрын

Chili with out beans is either called beef sauce, meat sauce or hot dog sauce which is also called Texas chili even though it only started to be called Texas chili when a group of women in Texas started calling meat and beans chili, chili con carne like what comes on enchiladas

@chrism4008

8 ай бұрын

In the counties ive seen they have, instead of beds with straps, a chair with no legs and 6 point harness. I wish i could remember the nickname for it, but its absolutely brutal

Season isn't about being good one or two weekends. If we take the whole season as one long tournament then Calvin threw the fewest amount of shots. If you had a score for the whole season he won that by a landslide. If at any random day during the past season on any random course and random hole you'd want someone to throw that shot it would be Calvin. Someone can have their perfect woods course they like playing on in their favorite weather with their favorite t-shirt on and win a tournament over one weekend. What made Calvin the best player over the year was it didn't matter where or when they played, he was always near the top. The ones you're comparing him to had off-weekends and courses they couldn't figure out way more than Calvin did. Thus he was the best player over the whole season. But I am a Calvin fan so take it for what it is.

Re:filming disc golf. I know it's hard to pull off in practice but i've always enjoy watching discs fly from the side, it gives you an idea of just how long the holes are. Depth isn't obvious if you film from the front or the back, the line is, but not depth. Drone shots are ok for that but not ideal.

Fantastic segment with Brian E. on video production. Great questions and insights from both Ulu and Brodie. It's really cool how much work Terry Miller has done pushing video over the years. That dude is a VERY hard working guy, but he is the PAST. Guys like Brian are the present and the future. Terry and Nate Doss should not have a microphone for ANY DGN coverage.

Calvin is the easiest guy to root for across all sports. Only player I buy your series discs if that I may not even use, just to support.

When is the talk about Catrina discussion? Can’t seem to find it.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Look at the time stamps in the description

Arkansas Open gives engraved samurai swords as trophies. Pretty awesome, and they display nicely

My general 1 day ticket was $45 for the final day of the Pro Tour Championship

I have a lightning hookshot 2. It's a disc that i will not throw over water and would probably spend an hour looking for it if i lost it. It's my forehand short approach disc. I'm not very good..

I swear the opening song sounds like it’s from Zelda

Yo laughing like that was hilarious, got me laughing. Reminds me in class in grade school you and your best friend can't stop laughing and you're trying to hold it in but it only makes it worse 😂😂😂

Statistically, Calvin is far and away the best player of 2023. But probably a simpler way to look at it - if you asked all the pros on the last day of a tournament and Calvin, Isaac & Gannon were in contention, 'who do you fear most', i think a majority would say Calvin. I think Calvin is the most 'feared' player in the field. I think in general, in any given tournament, people view Calvin as the guy to beat.

IMO Calvin is in the same tier of Paul and Ricky where if you are on lead card with one of them with a 3 stroke lead you know if you’re not lights out they will catch and surpass you every time!

For me, it had a lot to do with the format. I like brackets and when there can be some underdogs. Also, I came in expecting the same layout as last year. Hole 18 was like 6th and I was like uhhhhh. The last 3 holes are eh.

Question: do volunteers have any choice as to where they volunteer on the course? I feel like moving people around to a different hole or different priority each day could really enhance the experience for volunteers and spotters that just get stuck in an open field for hours by themselves as opposed to a udisc volunteer that gets to follow a card and be up close. One reason i turn down udisc volunteering is because I'll miss everything else about the tournament, like a spotter on hole 11 at USDGC just watching discs land in an open field/hill all day and not even from a fun vantage point.

Regarding the media of the sport...idk if anyone else has gotten tired of long format post production. I find myself tuning in every week to the free live round then watch the round recaps on the dgpt KZread page. I find myself missing half the jomez content this year. I think it would be worth an experiment to do condensed rounds like the dgpt does daily and have the commentary really highlight the good shots. Like if you play hole 1 but 2 through 5 are really boring with bogeys and par frames, maybe you show a few interesting shots from that stretch but the 3 holes take up as much time as one currently. Then you could add more value to the good shots and the story lines. Videos also being 10 to 20 minutes rather than 30 to 45 will be way better for consuming all the content available.

Dynamic ***** 🤣👌

I think Calvin's point is spot on. If your picking whoevers season you would rather have it's always the world's winner but player of the year I feel has to go to the most consistent player. Hints player of the year, not player of the last 5 tournaments

So the podcast group thinks the best statistical season is POTY? At what point do you say this person performed well enough (not necessarily the best) with a combination of huge wins? Issac is third top 10 finishes. If you use statistics in comparison to the current field of players, I think you also have to look at it by the scope of rankings as well. Being 3rd in top 10 finishes is also significant. While Calvin is by far ahead of that, Issac has 2 huge wins, one of those is worlds. If Calvin had only 0-1 wins people would have said Issac is POTY. How much weight are we really putting on wins because wins are significant in the eyes of the player and awards for many sports?

Saying Calvin only finished outside top 10 once says alot about his game. He good at any course you put him at and Issac did amazing at some and bad at others. Meaning overall he just is the better player in any circumstance/style of course.

People need to stop dumbing this down to Calvin’s consistency vs the 2 majors. Issac was also decently consistent and competitive enough the rest of the season, as well, so his majors aren’t flukey. Calvin not getting a major is the sus piece.

RE tour championship attendance - it's 100% related to USDGC being the week before in the same market. Sorry, you have to be a die hard to go to both, and anyone would choose USDGC if they were traveling for 1.

Interesting points about Worlds, in my head it makes sense to have Worlds be more exclusive with fewer spots to play, but with a points qualification and played at the end of the season. This would paint a clearer picture of the best player in the world vs someone just playing out of their mind that week or on that course especially with the growing talent across the entire field. Also, having the USDGC after Worlds just doesn’t make sense.

Broady may not like it but BIG MONEY is a great nickname.

I'm team Cuntrina! let's go!

What if Parker Welck won worlds??? Would he be POY?

I wouldn’t attend pro tour championship because of the size of the field on the weekend. If I’m going to spend money on a tournament I would want the opportunity to see all of my fav players.

Love the pod, although I feel like you haven't really asked the hard hitting questions lately. Early on, that was something you were very forth right about. Lately to me, it seems more laid back and fun. Either way I love the podcast, but I feel like there plenty of harder questions you could have asked Calvin and missed that opportunity. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, but just wanted to point that out. Excited for the next one!

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Hard hitting questions like what? When is he going to win a major? I’ve asked him that before. No reason to bring it up again.

@GYT88

8 ай бұрын

@@FoundationPodcasts I get that. But last time you asked him there were still 2 more opportunities to win majors. Now that the season is over and those 2 opportunities didn't turn into wins, I think a question along those lines could have been worth revisiting. At least knowing how he felt about his season as a whole. Idk, I'm not an interviewer you guys do a great job, like I said, keep it up.

Paul never got to tell his story about Ricky. 😭😑

When you backload the end of the season with big events and they are close geographically, you will lose interest

How many times did Calvin beat both of them?

Look Calvin carries himself in a way where it's obvious to me. That he could be a riot when he wants, for example Calvin 'I haven't been to either yet'.

Fix the brodcast delay.

USDGC is way bigger and has way more activities to do. Plus many more pros. Pro tour championship is way too small and viewing sucks. Went to Hornets a few years ago and it sucked. It was so boring. 2 vendors and 1 food truck.

They weren't telling me the individual player story or the overall story for shots they were showing. just sticking to set storyline or something

Hard disagree with gunning for first place with tour champ money. Losing 8k is worse than not winning 18k if it’s a very significant income portion of the year. That’s why it’s imo such a monotone event, ppl just hit a good stay/pay bracket and try to not lose important cash for the winter.

I could be wrong, but i have this feeling that discraft could not sign paige or missy, sign val and hollyn, and use the saved money to go after a Gannon, or eagle as an eventual replacement of paul.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

Paul still has like 6 years left at 1 million a year

@danday9697

8 ай бұрын

​@FoundationPodcasts I mean as the top guy, not contract

I really love disc golf and I am one of its biggest supporters. I buy your series discs and I am a dgn subscriber this is my biggest complaint I don’t think when I pay subscription fees for dgn and then it’s littered with advertisements it drives me effin crazy I would rather watch jomez and am sincerely thinking about stopping my subscription to dgn

@JW-ff1nc

8 ай бұрын

Watching DGN it’s like paying for dog food when you get steak for free. Post produce is 1000 times better.

@Jase-ul5yi

8 ай бұрын

@@JW-ff1nc oh yeah, it's great having half the tournaments spoiled for you before you get a chance to watch them. Watching live is much better. I love jomez, but come on, I've had lots of tournaments spoiled for me

I think we should keep worlds, keep it elevated above all else, and make it no less than 6 rounds. I think that virtually guarantees the world champ is the one that is playing the best and most consistent at that time. If not, stop calling it world champion and rename it something else.

I feel like no one went to the playoffs because it doesn’t carry as much weight, like winning the playoffs isn’t a major win, it’s kind of in this weird no man’s land that people don’t know what it it. To disc golf fans worlds is the big deal, I don’t know why they don’t have that at the end of the season. People just don’t value disc golf playoffs very highly

They talk a lot about going to twosomes. However, as long players are being force to enforce rules, that just doesn’t work

Calvin has to open 4 bert 😂

Bearheart rules

But what about Paul's favorite Ricky story?!?

The most popular disc golfer wasn’t there this year🤷🏻‍♂️ #McBethEffect

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

He wasn’t at USDGC either

@Riannacaswell1

8 ай бұрын

@@FoundationPodcasts Which is why I wasn't as interested in USDGC this year either.

Brodie, I think those 3000 viewers on the live round are concurrent views not total views. You might have 20k people that watched the event, just not all at the same time. Different people tune in and drop off all the time, it's a long event.

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

No I know. I’m saying that’s very low still.

@chrism4008

8 ай бұрын

Id say 3k concurrent live viewers is very low for a pro sport live audience. I think if it was free it would be more, and it would grow much faster

Throw Pink this year has a huge asterisk beside it. Not relevant to this conversation, except how coverage could have actually helped make the correct call, but can't be forgotten.

The James Proctor argument is moot. He was playing to make the cut. Everyone got a bonus to attend. It's the same as missing cash in a regular tournament. The first guy to miss and the last guy still get $0. That's the format, it's fair.

Jomez- #1

it was really hard to follow what was happening on live. Horrible pacing and fact that they didn't have regular reference to overall scores and individual scores drove me crazy!

@FoundationPodcasts

8 ай бұрын

It just felt like an overload

what if Calvin and Issacs seasons were flipped?

Thumbs up for Calvin and Rick being a good sport with the 12 year olds with the giggles.

@selfawarepotassium

8 ай бұрын

Dam we got a cool guy in the chat.

The price of tickets is another reason why people didn't go to DGPT Championship. The USDGC Gold Pass was $250. The DGPT was $750 and it did not include everything USDGC gave us. They got greedy and it shows.

@chrism4008

8 ай бұрын

Holy frick! 750 dollars!?! I dont think they could do anything to get me to spend 750 bucks to spectate a disc golf tournament in person. The value is simply not there. I cant even think of any kind of perks that would get me to do that. Thats just so crazy to me

@mahazroko6753

8 ай бұрын

750 is ridiculous

Make worlds the pdga tour finale.

@chrism4008

8 ай бұрын

They aren't playing the pdga tour, because there isn't one. They're playing the Disc Golf Pro Tour, which is a different entity

@jonathanritenour6563

8 ай бұрын

@chrism4008 I think should just combined them and spread out the majors.

Chili isn't chili without beans.

General admission tickets are trash, you get treated like an inmate

Phase out Ian and put Brian in announcing. Friend time is over and they need to be professional

Proof that we as men grow old but never grow up! Brodie says dick in stead of disc by mistake. Cue uncontrollable laughter 😂

I really didn’t care for using Nevin for the Tour Championship. Way too much luck to determine a champion. You could have an almost identical shot as someone else, but be an inch or two different and take a kick that lands you in jail. I want to see skill cause the win/loss, not good/bad luck.

Discgolfpodcastword of the year award goes to???? And the winner is: DICKY"S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last day if theres 12 guys again, they need to do twosomes like Brodie has been advocating for

Sorry but da Bears ended all hopes for the raiders.

Calvin will never get a big money contract if he stays with innova