Well Kap you saved me some headache. I was just looking at those. Thanks for the review

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

you bet. I'm pretty sure these had great reviews on Amazon, but I should have shopped a little better! lol

I got my kit about 3 weeks ago, installing this week. I got 2 inch bolts with mine. And like previous comment said, just line em up and mark for the holes and then install.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

lol yeah, after this I saw on their website the 'new and improved' bolt kit!!! Yep, hindsight is 20/20, but we were trying to be more efficient with time management. Life is a constant learning curve. Thanks and good luck with the install!

Have you thought of marking where the the holes should go, removing them, drilling holes, bolting it down, then pulling the vehicle on again? 🤔

@cwisted5308

11 ай бұрын

That's the proper way to do it. They have tutorials on instagram explaining how to properly install. All you have to do is put the vehicle in the spot you want it and use a sharpie or some sort of marker then back it out and bolt them in. They aren't supposed to be installed with the UTV on the trailer which ending up bending them

@rynoling5024

9 ай бұрын

Yep these dudes suck. Do it right and its fine.

@Hotfishgrease1981

3 ай бұрын

I’m with you when your right lol… common sense

Like how you got Phil doing the under the trailer work! LOL

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

heck yeah man, he sure ain't over here for his good looks!! :0 Oh snap!!

Well one try’s and thanks for keeping it real Joe. Have the solution to your canal bridge. Went with buddy I have not seen since high school and he has a beautiful timber and pond and a bridge he built that is over a creek. We did a video of how he built it. He had to get it approved Thru all kinds of red tape, but it’s wide enough with room to spare for his one ton truck , his bobcat and he had a 23,000 pound crane cross. I tried sending thru aol and drop box and file is two large, I have to send it in 2 or 3 emails unless you the king of videos have a better way. Your love his bridge.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Something like that you'll need to upload to a drive. Either google drive if you have android or apple cloud if you have I phone. Then you would send me a link to down load it here. Thanks

I just marked 2 holes with a marker, backed out and drilled and bolted them in.

Great review Kapper!

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, have a good weekend. Cold and rainy today here.

@hartleyhomesteadmichigan6041

2 жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors have a good weekend too! Supposed to warm up to the 50’s here by Sunday

This video made me curious about the product, so I went and looked at it on Amazon. The listing goes through a great deal of trouble to talk about "supporting a USA based family business". That being said, the first question someone asked about the listing was "are these made in China?" The answer was listed as "yes". So they are Chinese crap. I think your review was very fair, and showed the problems and low quality that these really are. Thanks for the honest review!!

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I know it, at first you see all of this proudly engineered in the USA but then in small print on the box was 'assembled in China' Thanks Chris

@toddbuh

Жыл бұрын

when I called them out, all they would say was that it was designed and engineered in USA. I initially asked about a rope shackle and got the "but it was designed & engineered in USA" answer, my 1st thought was you can't make a rope? they've been around for a thousand years, just how do you design and engineer a rope? cavemen made them and now you tell me your not smart enough to make a rope?. but their design is to copy other companies already making the same thing, and the engineering was painting it a different color and giving it a new name. I'm sure it was very hard picking lime green for the color even though it's the same green color as all their other chinese made (by 10 yr. old girls) products are. all you have to do is buy another brand already available, then measure it and send the specs to china to make one like it. which they probably didn't even have to do that, I'm sure china already had the specs from stealing them or making them for 1 of the other companies that used china to make theirs too. I wish I had done my homework and found out before buying them. I won't let that happen again. Buy American made products everyone!!

@shanescott3168

3 күн бұрын

Rhino USA seems to want to come across as making their products in the U.S.. It is like the iPhone: Engineered in California, made in China. Mac's tie downs are more expensive but made in the U.S..

In Rhino's defense, The install video on there website shows how to avoid what you did by installing the front mount first then placing the rear mount and marking drill holes removing utv then install rear mount. Also says that hardware will work for most applications not all.

@kapperoutdoors

Ай бұрын

Yeah we made some tactical errors in this install for sure. But since we only did it once we keep it real. Thanks

I picked up a set of Erickson wheel chocks , same style as yours. But now I am trying to decide if I should install the e track instead. I like the idea of being able to adjust the tie down points for different machines with the e track. Thanks for the review.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

I agree that e track looks like a nice system! Good luck

I just bought the Ericson ones so far am happy . When i installed mine had to also buy larger bolts and lock nuts . I loaded my sxs straight enough was happy then placed all the chocks traced outline black felt pen removed them unload then place them back in the outline then drill & bolt on seem line up fine . They work awesome compared to just tie machine down never not use this system once try it never comes loose 👍

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think you got a better brand. But I agree it is so much easier to get loaded and tied down with the chock system! Thanks, have a good one

@normsatv

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors Thanks man wish i bought this system all yrs rode atv lol so much faster load & unload .

Hmmm ain't no rocket surgeon but thin as emm are Ida not have droved over emm thangs🤪 Thanks for the video, I was considering buying these. I'm exploring other options now.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough! But I figured they could handle a run over! But since they were not fully bolted down, I 'kind of' get it.. Although IMO they are a bit too thin anyway and for sure them bolts were too weak! Thanks

Good review, seems like a decent system incorporating the E track. Once fully bolted to the deck, it should prevent any deforming of the chock. Fuel prices are terrible here, it costs $290.00 to fill up with diesel.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Now that we beefed them up I think it will be fine. Contacted Rhino they said should hold down over 6,000 lbs.

I installed the Erickson system ( similar to what you have there ) and they work great for me. Drive up and over the chocks, strap down all four tire/wheel and my CanAm doesn`t move at all. They are just what I needed for hauling my CanAm, the wheels are held securely ( like I said ) but the body can bounce and jounce all it wants, but it's not going anywhere.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Well they sure advertised these as being the best on the market!! Not so sure about that! lol.

@regsparkes6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors Where are those Rhino cocks made? They look considerable inferior to the Erickson brand that I bought.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@regsparkes6507 The are 'engineered' in the USA but assembled in China!! They got me on that RHINO USA one..

@regsparkes6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors I guess this is what I was wondering. Oh well 'nuff said.

I bough mine from Cabela"s for my ATV and works great for tie downs.

@kapperoutdoors

7 ай бұрын

I do like the overall system for sure, just lacking some quality control. Thanks best of luck!

Hey kapper I'm the guy that told you about the wheel chocks,I went with the ones made by Erickson .I don't rember having these problems with quality and my straps seem to be more heavy duty,guess I should of told you the name brand also ,sorry .

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

No worries man, I think these will still work fine, but next time I need to do a little more homework before buying! Thanks

Most deck is not that thick You only have to do one front wheel and the opposite side rear…2 per ATV or UTV. You take a black marker mark your drill spots then remove mounts and UTV then drill and install. A good video on how to improperly install tie downs.

@kapperoutdoors

11 ай бұрын

hey life is a constant learning curve. But I feel much better about these after beefing up the bolts.

I wish I would of saw this video 5 days ago. My set just showed up in the mail today. Lol I will def do the same as you and get beefier and longer bolts. I plan on putting them on my car hauler that I use for my side by side. Did you try and drill thru any steel cross members on your trailer or just anchor to the wood decking?

@troyconnolly3027

2 жыл бұрын

Another question for ya. I know everyone has there on opinion on what is best for your machine but when using the rhino system in your video here it is best to put your machine in park when trailering?

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I do feel a lot better with the heavier bolts. Best of luck with yours. I did not go through any steel members, but it would have helped if we did. Good luck! Thanks

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Can't speak for others, but yes, I always put mine in park after I get the weight and straps all settled out in neutral. Really wish they had a parking brake though.

@troyconnolly3027

2 жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors thanks for the reply I did subscribe too after watching this video. You put out a lot of good info and someone who doesn’t sugar coat everything on KZread is a rare occurrence. Thanks again.

I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for some wheel chocks today. ~ Wimpy

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

lol we did have triple cheeseburger's at McD's!!

So true bolts are way too short washers are junky was very disappointed now I got to spend a bunch of money on nuts and bolts too bad I did not see this sooner thanks for the info and telling the facts maybe rhino usa will learn from this

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help, this install was disappointing, but with the bigger bolts it really beefed up it's capacity. Thanks

Your video reinforced my decision to go another route. Instead of a $120 set for 4 wheels, I went to HD and bought 8 D-ring tiedowns and bolted them to my decking for a little over 1/2 price. I had to buy the bolts to anchor them down (just like you had to do anyway). I had some 1/8" scrap metal for my backing plates. Each D-ring is rated for 3,600 lbs - more than enough for my 1700lb SxS. Other than that, it's similar to the Rhino set up. Their instructions could be better. Locate and drill the 1st two mounting holes on each chock as you did. Then remove all of the chocks and back the SxS off the trailer. Then the remaing holes can be located, drilled and all bolts installed.

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. I like the sounds of your setup much better! But I have used these now for several long range transports and so far no issues at all. Thanks

@redteam9881

11 ай бұрын

You only need 2 per ATV and UTV !

@danburch9989

11 ай бұрын

@@redteam9881 The cost of anchoring all four wheels is cheap insurance against the alternative. I can have two, but I need four.

The other issue is if your bolt holes don’t line up across two planks, if the wheels are wider by an inch then you are drilling into the gap between the planks

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

At least this one laid right with the planks!

What do you do when your hardware, after lining up the tires, goes right overtop of the cross member of the trailer? I'm running into that issue now.

@kapperoutdoors

11 ай бұрын

We drilled right through it and got longer bolts. Also makes the chocks much stronger. Best of luck!

Do you have any problems with your deck boards moving and if not how are your secured. I got a set and now I'm worried about my deck coming up

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Well the decking all depends on the manufacturer and how they secured it, but most are quite secure, being fastened to the steel frame. If you use all 4 wheel chocks like this I doubt you'll have any issues, regardless of the decking. They are made to hold down a UTV with just 2 chocks, so if you go with all 4 like I did you should be just fine. Thanks, and good luck.

Probably should of traced the holes or outline of the chocks onto deck. Then removed chocks & then bike. Then placed chocks back on & drilled & mounted.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Yep in hindsight no doubt about that!

@lennylarson4192

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that seems like an install error not factory design error. That's why they were designed for 6 bolts. But the bolts being short is kinda crappy.

You should have checked reviews on Amazon. Not many reviews compared to the 2600 five star for Erickson brand.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Well I did, and they have tons of great reviews, but they also market them quite well. Oh well, hindsight is always much clearer, thanks

@RobertLink-sq5qu

3 ай бұрын

You guys are idiots 🤣🤣🤣

i would put a fish plate underneath for the nuts and washers.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

sure wouldn't hurt..

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Although I'm guessing that in a crash or roll over those metal chocks would give way before them bolts would rip through the wood.

So other than the bolts the only issue here is the installer

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Also the thin metal they used for these, and the quality control of the cuts as well

I just installed the Erickson Chock tie-downs on my trailer for my Polaris General and they wouldn't even stay on the tires on my trek to/from the woods! I'm assuming the curvy roads causes the Polaris to lean L and R compressing the tires which then allows the strap to fall off?! Any thoughts or solutions? Let's go Brandon!

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

man sorry to hear that! I have not actually tried these out yet for a real trailer haul! Did you have all 4 Erickson's or just 2? I have heard good things on them Erickson's. Thanks.

I wouldn't trust those of any brand. I bought a SpeedStrap 2" ultimate UTV kit for under $275. Best strap made.

Did you use 1/4 20s?

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not that great with sizes and such, but I think they were grade 2 5/16 bolts, the new ones. And the original ones were only 1/4 inch. Not sure if that was what you were asking. Thanks

Lot easier to use E track with your straps

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Just looked at those e track and they are the exact same thing as these. Sorry I was looking at the strap tie down point. Now I see the difference.

Thanks for your honest review. I will not be purchasing this sub par kit. Are you sure it wasn’t made in China!!

@kapperoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

lol it probably was China! In hindsight, yeah, I wish I'd got another brand! Thanks

Thanks Kap. I had to chuckle when your panio said he may need some Preparation H after getting reamed by the gas pump prices. We're all feeling that Biden crap. Things will be different when we get Trump back where he belongs (in the oval office). Yep, seems like Rhino cheaped out on their Quality Control. Thanks for the honest, straight-up impression of these Rhino chocks. Stay healthy my friend and say hey to Mrs K. S/F Don 👍🏽🙂 4/8/22.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, and have a great weekend! SF

Always just use wooden chocks 🙄😳😂 but great idea 👍

@regsparkes6507

2 жыл бұрын

Then how do you hold down your ATV Bob?

@bobpaterson1845

2 жыл бұрын

@@regsparkes6507 straps round the wheels Reg 👍

@regsparkes6507

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobpaterson1845 I'm curious, you mean the wood chocks are screwed down to the deck and then how do you connect the straps to the floor ?

@bobpaterson1845

2 жыл бұрын

Reg the straps are connected too the hooks on the chassis rails of the trailer👍

@bobpaterson1845

2 жыл бұрын

Reg the straps are connected too the hooks on the chassis rails of the trailer👍

That's one reason I'm careful what I buy thru Amazon, people who sell poor quality products are there #1 customers.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course it had good reviews if I remember correctly on Amazon! Go figure!

You made this really hard. Why just place them in the right spot. Outline them with a pencil. Remove machine. Install them. Put machine back. My god. This is an easy job

@mauricewilkins7871

8 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. Installing mine now and didn’t even go through all of that trouble.

@kapperoutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Well you live and you learn! Since I had never done it I over thought the process no doubt about that.

Let's go Brandon!! Also, good review. I've got a set of straps for mine made by SpeedStrap. I've been real happy with them so far. Combine the speedstrap bonnets with some ETrack rails bolted to your trailer flooring is a quality setup in my opinion.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

lol no doubt. I should have shopped a little better I think! but this set had good reviews on Amazon... go figure.

@Will7981

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Well it looked like it was worth a try to me. I looked at that set I think when I was shopping and was wondering if it was a good option. I just ended up going with the speedstrap option.

@toddbuh

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors me too, I just learned of speed straps today. why dont the rear straps look like the front straps? I read where one guys rear straps thru wheel got cut from the bouncing while hauling it. but you never know how to believe replies on here or reviews on amazon, I've bought highly rated products and after getting them I wonder why anyone would give that junk a high review? it's obviously crap. that's where the return option is so handy, send it back and try again with a different brand

Hope Rhino USA sees this vid....Made in the USA....yea....right

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I just read the box on that. They are engineered in the USA but assembled in China!

Rhino? Lol. I think they should go with the "fawn", becayse they're so light weight. Or maybe the, "squirrel". Because they're squirrelly, and weak. Perhaps, the "skunk", because they stink, and you feel like you got skunked by purchasing them. Seriously though, they are way to lightweight to give one any sense of solidity or ability to last for any length of time. They certainly don't inspire any confidence in the strength required to keep a $25k+ toy safely secured to a trailer that will be bouncing along for the potential of upwards of 50 to 500 miles. All in all, those things look like they're made out of something only twice as thick as a dole pineapple juice can. They should go back. And man, those screws... Holy smokes. Pot metal garbage. You Gents are polite, reserved, and cordial.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

lol some good analogies there! I do take a little solace in knowing we planted much heavier bolts in these things!! But they do have a great advertising department!!

Uhh Ohh, not sure those chinzy things are going to be "good enuf for who they're for"??? Looks like those things are a way to lose a UTV off of a trailer!!!

Not the sharpest knives in drawer I see. Ever heard of a sharpie or majic marker?

@kapperoutdoors

4 ай бұрын

eh.. what fun would that be?

FJB

That's some chincy crap. No way I'm buying these. Thanks for the video.

American company made in China?

@kapperoutdoors

11 ай бұрын

That's actually quite common..

Rhino- tough name, big price tag, cheap material.

A smart person would have just put the sxs on the trailer where you wanted it, then put the chocks in place and marked all of the holes, then backed the sxs off and drilled and mounted the chocks, you guys made it look like 2 monkeys doing you know what to a football.

@kapperoutdoors

25 күн бұрын

Live and learn

@Upracefan

25 күн бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors Or you could have just read the directions that came in the package!

@kapperoutdoors

24 күн бұрын

@@Upracefan I did read the instructions, this was awhile ago so I don't recall why we decided on the methodology.

why waist your time use 10000lbs D rings

@kapperoutdoors

4 ай бұрын

Maybe this method is faster hook up and tie down..?

@americansilverback1947

4 ай бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors no try them all best way and easiest is Dring rachcet strap over the tire that way the suspension works for the utv from bounce for the trailer

It’s called being lazy,,,, only using cordless impact??? You could have easily tightened with a ratchet

@OzarkMtnLandowner6653

2 жыл бұрын

And toxic people could easily keep negative comments to themselves but choose not to.

@kapperoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

we were trying to be productive, but you know what they say about hind sight..

@toddbuh

Жыл бұрын

@@kapperoutdoors tony lee is jealous because he is too cheap to buy a cordless impact. It's called being smart, not lazy. if you like being slow.... Try using your metric crescent wrench instead of a ratchet. ( I bet he's shopping for a metric crescent wrench right now ) let me know if you find one on amazon :) the dumb ones always look. heeheeheeee