As a service rig mechanic, the first time i ever seen a service rig over 20 years ago, i asked why they weren't built this way. The response I got was "because they've always been this way".

@LukeA_55

5 ай бұрын

That one line alone has to be the #1 killer of innovation in human history. You could make something work 50x better requiring less time and they'd tell you to quit fooling around and keep doing it the way it's always been done

@deezelfairy

4 ай бұрын

The other phrase that drives me nuts is "we don't try to re-invent the wheel here". Quickest way to kill the soul of people with a passion for what they do. But that's what most companies want, mindless drones that do what they're told. Not bright individuals capable of critical thinking.

Make sure you guys add an option for shore power. Also the generator that you add onto the rig should allow for nat gas substitution. That way you can tie into an existing gas well on lease or electric power that’s available on location.

@bluebanana6753

5 ай бұрын

Not really a big problem if they go with a diesel generator (probably depends on what the customer want). The same way they can pull power out of it for other things. They can also use a natural gas generator to put power into the rig.

@TheWizardGamez

5 ай бұрын

diesel is already widely used and priced into the lifecycle costs of truck. so, i wouldnt worry about complicating it by making the generator also natural gas pwoered. but, if its a simple enough addition, who am i to complain

@MegaRgallardo

5 ай бұрын

If you’re working on a well you don’t want gas coming out of it. Also hooking up to the flow line for gas is a no go. Using injection line is doable, adds complications though.

@spencerneufeld2968

5 ай бұрын

I work in the oilfield and all our new equipment runs 70% gas 30% diesel. We frequently tie into a riser on the pad for gas.

@eddeetz493

5 күн бұрын

You should partner with commercial solar especially at remote off grid sites. The batteries also fill the rig from solar and wind portable trailers. Can't wait for usa kit installers.

The only small stretch feature I'd consider adding is an input for your solar plants. Maybe they wouldn't charge the batteries any time soon but they'd be good PR.

@Triaxx2

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, and not every well like this is completely away from electrical power. Having the option to just plug into external power, whether Solar or grid, would be a solid addition.

@alvaroasi

5 ай бұрын

@@Triaxx2 Yes. In some places less expensive tan Diesel, less noise for everybody (included wild life), and an extra backup.

@alvaroasi

5 ай бұрын

And for this applications, next steep is improve exhaust mufflers. No a strigt pipe. Here in Europe (I'm in Spain) a lot of trucks are offered on sale with an interesting extra pack: "City pack" that usally means: extra muffler, other extra insonorizations, low noise hydraulic pump and systems, and extra or dual radiators to avoid fans screaming. Typical trucks whit this pack are garbage truck (most of the work are done on night shift) and the chassis for buses. ...reading my words... garbage truck are good candidates for your system: they need powerful hydraulics to be fast moving the compactor and spend a lot of time starting, stopping, red light, maneuvering...

@DanielIsaacs

5 ай бұрын

Garbage trucks are also a lot of stop and go, huge efficiency gains for electric drive systems.👍

@dubya5626

5 ай бұрын

I believe they have input AND output on main panel for just these reasons ... Continue operation during diesel engine failure and/or maintenance of the diesel. These can be used both to draw from AND to provide power to the grid. Perhaps someone from edison can confirm this. Add to this someone's point regarding extremely quiet operation when desired or needed (e.g. residential work). Also, as someone mentioned, when grid power might be less expensive than diesel.

As an Albertan who’s been working in Oil and Gas since highschool, its amazing to see someone bringing electrification like this to the industry

@seanworkman431

5 ай бұрын

I like the idea for the operational factors esp. safety and quiet operation but the idea that is going to be beneficial for the climate when CO2 is essential for all life on Earth and there is no climate crisis.

@Jessev741

5 ай бұрын

@@seanworkman431 So is oxygen, but too much of it will kill you. Maybe this isn't the right channel for you eh?

@seanworkman431

5 ай бұрын

@@Jessev741 Yet another insult from a climate catastropher, @150 ppm CO2 plants are dying, @120 ppm all life on this planet is dead. The time of the greatest flourish of life on this planet, aprrox. 250 million years ago, the CO2 was @7000 ppm and we cannot get back to that because of all the carbon life forms that are now buried such as sea shells and bones. Plant matter becomes coal and protien or animal matter becomes oil. Water cannot become acidic due to CO2 as it can only hold so much bit like dissolving sugar in hot water, think of opening a can of beer, the sound is CO2 escaping. There is no climate crisis and if there was human intervention would only make it worse. The SUN controls our climate, not us. I like the idea of diesel/electric the way Edison Motors is doing it because it makes sense, more power to ground, static power supply and better fuel economy. All electric is stupid. I will watch whatever I please and I do not require your advice on what content I choose. FU

@b111372

Ай бұрын

Facts​@@seanworkman431

@dogefort8410

Ай бұрын

@@seanworkman431 Yeah, no. Can't pretend this thing away.

I’ve worked in the oil and gas industry in the Gulf of Mexico for over 16 years. Every offshore MODU operates exactly how you are wanting to do to this land rig. Just apply what others have done to what you want… Safety of the workers is the most important thing in my opinion ! Also Great Idea, and take the time to do it right the first time, because you always have time to do it two or three times to get it right. And please think about battery fires over a live well, a blow out can and has killed.

Don't overexpand too fast thats how new companies get in trouble

@benmoore2684

5 ай бұрын

Quick question, are you Nipper from USMB?

@Tuzzie902

5 ай бұрын

The good thing is they are using the same axles and batteries, it would be different if they had to start from scratch

@Neojhun

5 ай бұрын

Exactly, they are still such a tiny company. Those are some tall ambitions, especially with the Pickup Truck kits.

@AMCguy

5 ай бұрын

Ditto, Edison motors, we all LOVE what you do. But please dont bite off more than you can chew. Maybe prioritize stuff like this before the pickup kits if it makes more financial sense.

@ADMINM-ld7vu

5 ай бұрын

This isn’t all too much different to carl, except you add an extra PTO unit.

From a sub-reply, cross-posted here as hopefully to be read by Edison: One comment mentions need for input from grid or other source ... I believe Edison already permits input AND output on main panel for just these reasons ... Incl ofc their solar pack. This permits operation during diesel engine failure and/or maintenance of the diesel... Just roll up another gene. Note that with both input and output to batteries, one can both draw from AND provide power to the grid. Perhaps someone from edison can confirm this. ... Add to the benefit/need for this feature someone's point regarding extremely quiet operation when desired or needed (e.g. residential work... Constr vehicles). Also, as someone else mentioned, when grid power might be less expensive than diesel, why burn fuel when you can hook up a cable to grid when operating statically. ... Note that a main benefit of being able to provide power to the grid is also one of national security. The electric vehicle industry will have more benefit to the environment when production costs are lower, and production processes/materials are greener. The benefit to national security will be more immediate, given the stability that power-to-grid (and -microgrid) that these vehicles will supply. If Edison is not talking to the government about this, then they should be. Fair-sized diesel generators may be needed in a pinch for national defense. Make sure all of your trucks are compatible with mil spec electric supply... And sport a Canadian flag on their paint somewhere, too! 🇨🇦

In the Lloydminster area oilfield, there is at least 20 rigs that I know of running c9 engines. You could possibly downsize to even a c7 generator unless you are frequently doing 3 hour rig moves. I think it would be cool to use a whisper watt enclosed generator, that way when there is an engine or generator failure in the future companies could have a complete unit that is readily available that they could swap in. 4 bolts, 3 wires and an hour later (with a little help from a 40 ton picker truck) back in service. The consultant wouldn't even know you shut down

A true engineer, that one who masters his field of engineering, can visualize and design simple or complex systems by integration of commercial available parts at comepetitive costs with realibility and durability. These guys of Edison Motors are the best examples of such engineering!

@Zankaroo

5 ай бұрын

A big part of what makes Edison Motors good at that is that Chase and I think a few others all worked in trucking and other heavy machinery. They have first hand knowledge of what the operators want and need. Makes it a lot easier for them to engineer as much as little as possible but as much as necessary for efficiency of the job from the comfort of the operators to the cost of operating the machines.

You guys got a huge shout out by a caller to road dog live on serious xm radio today he was telling the host to check you guys out along with the rest of the world, keep up the awesome work can't wait to see where this goes

Dude it is so refreshing to hear your holistic approach to the vehicles, the use, and their operators. The discussion about noise level, yelling, and safety got me to subscribe.

I would say this would change our commercial fishing industry also take for example a 45 foot boat with a 450 hp main engine just so you can get 7 knots and a 17 kW GEN set to run all the lights safety equipment and a power takeoff from the main engine to run the hydraulics. This would change the way boats are being built no need for big engine and generator rooms, less fuel it would redesign the boat in a good way

@johnwenzel2003

5 ай бұрын

Best thing about a good idea/design is it's contagious in changing the way you think about things . ;-)

@autobootpiloot

5 ай бұрын

That’s a lot of horsepower for such a small boat at 7 knots. I would guess you can reach the necessary speed with about half that power when all components are optimised. I have worked on boats 16 meters long with 210hp that run 8 knots at average sea conditions. It ran with hydraulic of pto and a big ass 24v alternator to run lights and navigation equipment. They were able to run the boat at maximum hull speed with power to spare.

@walterhale3326

5 ай бұрын

@@autobootpiloot I’m on the east coast ( Newfoundland ) and we rebuilt a rebuilt boat and turned it into a offshore crab fishing boat where we could only have a cubic carry capacity of 5000 or 45’ which ever comes first so our boat was 42’ built like a bulldozer because we took the length of the steam head and required a lot of power but also we never slowed down in heavy undertow current’s or at maximum load capacity. That’s my whole point this design changes things a lot. I’m also a Red Seal journeyman in steamfitter pipefitter that have worked in Alberta oil and gas sector and also know this is a big deal. I’m currently looking at getting rid of my 1500 truck and looking for a f450 for this kit Great job guys 👍

@walterhale3326

5 ай бұрын

@@autobootpiloot also you are right on the engine size it was a 350hp Mitsubishi with matching 17 kW genset not 450

Change the world one retrofit at a time!

Chase is flexing on all the rest of the lumber industry with his double plaid.

I work in the crane industry this would be very interesting to see on a mobile crane. Same basic concept as this you have a lot of idle time and yea everything is just run off a hydraulic pump. And yea communication would be better if you don’t have an engine screaming next to you.

First of all, nice color on this rig ... She'll look sharp next to Topsy 😉. This comment is mainly regarding Chance's statement about it being weird to imagine hearing every squeak and creak. Just think how this may also be a boon to safety: the operator and crew will hear a cable thread snap, or a part wearing unevenly. Maintenance, longevity, and safety will benefit as well ... if the works "don't sound just right", the operator will know, and can inspect to determine if there is need for service, lubrication, or (in this case) de-icing.

I know that Nigel is a good guy when he does business meetings in his kitchen. Can’t wait to see how this turn out.

cant help but smile seeing the edison crew going for it with every update

Will be interesting to see this end-of-life service rig be saved from the scrap yard and transformed into a potential new generation of service rig. Like Carl it will be a great proof of concept for not only the re building of older rigs but even the manufacturing of new.

My hats off to the company for even exploring this idea. This is how technology moves forward. Its really interesting and I hope this is successful!

kitchen table deal, just like my grandfather (farmer of 3 farms) love and hugs from a NY upstate older kid, airplane avionics mechanic. unemployed and building solar stuff for fun.

😅9:55 this is why I think haven a set up like this in a commercial fishing boat is a grand idea, 👌 😀

All I'm going to say is A. I appreciate the translation to freedom units hahaha. And B. I've never been against electric big rigs and whatnot but always felt there was too much pressure to switch immediately. I think your solutions and direction is the most sensible and most feasible way I've seen. I wish you all success and I can't wait to see where you go from here.

No doubt about it, Edison Motors is going to have a chapter in the history books! How refreshing to see something done the RIGHT way!

@the_undead

5 ай бұрын

To be fair, Chase has said at least twice that his objective is to be. I believe the company was called Pacific trucks (definitely Pacific something) 2.0, and they were a titan in the location of industry up until I think a decade ago

sometimes factories require explosion proof electrical equipment. So its possible. you can get specially sealed and watercooled equipment

@dogefort8410

Ай бұрын

Ex rated components are still off the shelf, just expensive'er

Alberta oil rig worker and picker Operator, this is excellent. Just plain common sense that works. Thanks for this video.

I'm a petroleum service tech, and I wish my service van had a gas/ electric or diesel/ electric drive train! Making more efficient use of the petroleum we use should be our focus!

The comment section here is really cool - lots of oil and gas guys as excited as everyone else to see this take off and providing lots of insightful comments.

As a water well driller maybe you can take on one of those rigs next just so you don't have so much oil near drinking water

That thing with a 300 HP electric motor will run circles over that 550 Detroit. I know this because I own a service rig as well.

I just got to watch history be made. In the future, People are going to look back at this as a change point in Industrial electrification.

I like how even the old school dude driving the oil rig truck is passionate and interested in hybrid technology.

I swear every time I watch you I'm like watching the future are you single-handedly changed my mind about Electric I must ask I look at you big trucks conversion idea can I do a similar idea to my mini trucks I'm all about my mini trucks😅❤

The advantage Edison has is more in the integration than completely new designs. They are not making new service rigs, they are just adjusting the power train. The only thing that is strictly Edison is the E-axles. Floodrolics will handle the electrical interface. The rest is just off the shelf electric motors, batteries, and other equipment. It’s the integration that is where Edison is going to grow the most and in a few years you will see others following suit. But Edison will be an industry leader because of its business philosophy of no obsolescence, and minimal bespoke parts with owner repair in mind.

Chase i love the work you and your team is doing I am HD mechanic in the oil and gas. Great to see kiss attitude, right to repair and generic parts makes simple field repairs.

I just want to point out this man was wearing three layers of plaid.

This is going to be an interesting couple of years to follow you guys!

0:51 are you kidding me? That background looks so amazing that it almost looks fake. One of these days i really need to take a road trip. Good luck to y’all and wishing you a merry christmas

@kstricl

5 ай бұрын

That's Mt Robson in the background, he was pulled out just south of it. There are campgrounds right near the base. If you are into hiking, there is a lot to explore in the area.

@EdisonMotors

5 ай бұрын

That’s Mount Robson 👌🏼

Congratulations on the new contract!

You certainly can spread and balance the load a lot better with electric motors dimensioned for each application (air compressor, hydraulic pump, etc.) I've never worked with such things to have a better understanding of the inner workings of the rig or the work itself by the people running around it, so I can't say much. Keeping heat away from the workers during summers and heat close workers during winters seems to be something to think about when dealing with all the engine/motors, compressor, pumps, etc. Also, keeping batteries at a good working temperature all year long is a thing to think about, so you guys will need a good heat management on those. Keeping everything safe from external fluids and particles to avoid fires and fails does worry me, since that sort of work is a good dirty work, usually more then standard mining operations.

@EdisonMotors

5 ай бұрын

We could balance the load a lot more with more electrical motors. But we want to keep it as simple as possible. Prove that it works and worry about the smaller efficiency gains later

I wrote in a thesis, back in 2013 - stating/ paraphrasing: The power density of an electric motor, combined with the energy density of liquid hydrocarbons, will result in an optimal energy storage and power delivery system - (that was with respect to avionics, where energy recovery is less important, due to historical flight profiles - peak power vs mean demand - and mean mass aloft - is an optimisation to deal with, we can work going forwards based on flight missions ) - - for land based systems, energy recuperation will provide an additional benefit... lots to look forward to...

Great News, Chase and Crew. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Thanks for sharing.

Super stoked on what you guys are doing! You guys are gonna revolutionize the industry. Awesome that this kinda stuff is happening in my neck of the woods. As a red seal heavy equipment tech I hope one day I will get to work on/admire something you guys built.

My favorite thing about your company is that you understand how things work in the real world. "If you need to yell at someone that's doing something stupid" love it

We want to see more videos about Topsy.

Just a few days ago...1986

You know it's cold when he's got two flannels on xD

Having done some work on the rigs in Alberta/Saskatchewan for a couple years I am excited to see this project play out. This is industry leading stuff.

One company in New Mexico is Mack Energy in Artesia, Mack Chase started the company, he passed this last year. They have built their own drilling rigs, so certainly capable of converting one of their pulling units.

Looks like a very straightforward conversation that once proven will be easily reproduced and adopted widely. Great first choice for conversion! 😊

Keep changing the world man. Proud canadian

I'm so excited for this company

Okay, I’m all for these new fangagled electrocity trucks. Log trucks here in Alaska go downhill with a load, uphill without one. I think it would make sense! You are as our great Uncle BumbleFuk says: An Angry Pixie Wrangler.

This will be an awesome retrofit! Proving you don't need to reinvent the wheel, just make it spin more efficiently.

It seems like a great application. You pre build the engine/generator on a skid. You lift it it in and bolt it down. You pre build alll the controls and bolt them on the truck. By pre building everything you minimize conversion time.

Awesome and congrats on the contract looking forward to all the new things you going to do and put out. Most of all cant wait to see build videos of things, times laps are awesome.

I can see this being an effective solution for mine sites here in australia, very remote, often high torque requirements instead of top speed, 3 trailers of iron ore between train depots and/or ports would really suit this kind of solution, as well as some smaller service trucks that they use on sites/depots/ports would benefit hugely. I think companies in Australia like Rio Tinto, Woodside and BHP would probably be interested in ideas like this as they're always trying to reduce costs and carbon emmissions to meet with regulations here, and with their extensive diesel electric train network they probably already have the infrastructure to support this.

Thats sounds fantastic! If I might ask for a "future video", it would be to revisit this company after working a while with the diesel-hybrid system and ask them who it influenced their work environment (the stress level you guys talked about) and if they had maybe less dangerous situations because of better situational awareness and maybe if they see a change in the time they needed to bring new coworkers up to speed with operations. I think, those things might even be interesting for future customers. Because if you safe money because of less accidents, faster and more efficient training and less downtime of crews because they stay healthier thanks to reduced stress (and maybe work even more productive), investing in a diesel hybrid from Edison might pay for itself.

Congrats ... Good Luck!

Pretty cool man. It's funny how we can get stuck in a rut with what is an industry norm. I believe you guys are going places and paving the way for a lot more simple thinkers to get up and try out their ideas and challenge the status quo. Good luck and look forward to what's next

"Difference between an old and a new rig is the amount of RUST!"

Something I never thought about is generator and truck run away from a gas or blow out. Your electric rig can still run everything without a Gen for power so if you are getting a kick of gas turn off the motor and run 100% on batteries until the gas is dealt with. Ot if you trigger a gas alarm it can shut the motor down but maintain full capabilities

@johnwenzel2003

5 ай бұрын

The conversion will open the door for a variety of opportunities for enhanced safety and functionality.

@jamesphillips2285

5 ай бұрын

They would still need to make sure their electronics are explosion proof though.

@brettknighten1171

5 ай бұрын

@@jamesphillips2285 yes absolutely but that's not to hard most large industrial stuff is anyways

I’ve never found a company I’ve wanted to support more. I love what you guys are doing. I hope you guys can keep this dream alive and make history here!

Always good to see a bottle of Jaegermeister in the breakroom! Take off hosers.

Happy for Edison and crew.I am an industrial electrician.Your service rig electrification is so natural that I am surprised some of the big guys have not thought of this. IF YOU HAD TO YOU COULD HAVE MORE BATTERIES ON SEPARATE TRAILER. I hope you can keep some manufacturing in Merritt or at least BC and Alberta

@EdisonMotors

5 ай бұрын

I really doubt we’ll be able to stay in BC. The government just does not want us here

@johnwenzel2003

5 ай бұрын

​@@EdisonMotors?! 😮

@TheRedMekanik

5 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors That's a crying shame. It's apparent how much you love your home area, and how much you want to bring improvements to the industry there. Don't give up that hope too easily. Keep up the innovative work. Your ideas are getting out in the world and getting people thinking.

@AxleBoris

5 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors keep telling you I have a shop available in SK ready for you just let me know Axle

@Jessev741

5 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors what problems are you facing here in BC?

Love how he just states that every edison Truck has to have a trainhorn😂😂😂

On your announcement short people already mentioned the irony of you electrifying a oil/gas service rig. But one thing I would like to point out is petroleum is used for a lot of stuff that is not fuel.

this feels like some good transparency.

Would love to see the final product with a test drive would be a great video

Theres a lot of money in oil and gas. If this service rig works and commercializes Edison will get truely established and have the capacity to branch out more

I love the red flannel ontop of blue flannel. Little black dress for Canadian men

Bringing diesel/electric down from ships, mine shovels and trains to local equipment is as cool as it gets 😄

Man, I went back to school for data science. But your guys' video makes me feel nostalgic for my time as an underground miner. I used to work for Thyssen Mining.

I cant wait to see how this turns out

Great idea!! 💡 You guys work smart! You guys keep it simple!

This is an amazing step, congratulations guys. Look forward to seeing the results, get this done and the sky's the limit.

Gorgeous mountains! Our shared continent is a feat of nature.

this is gonna be really cool to see the progress and when it's fully working.

I hope one day I can get an electric retrofit for a grain hauling semi but that might be a couple years. Hope to see you all over the world one day

Why has nobody though about this before???? Edison morors just killin it again!!!

thats awesome guys i cant wait to see it in action

Congratulations! That's going to be a great conversion!

Everything runs smoother with hydraulic components if you can run consistent rpm's, like booms on boats, logloaders, logstackers, processor's, Derricks, cranes. So another words it'll be freaking awesome!!!

We at westview fleet do work for Forden, as you can see our Topkick in the background. Im so stoked to see you convert these service rigs!

This is awesome, I see great applications in the farm industry as well, combine or tractor running off little generator ,awesome

Man I’m super excited about this one

Awesome work guys. You deserve all the success you’ve had and will have in the future.

May I just make one comment on your videos. It would be so much better to have you and your guests wear some of those wireless mics so we can hear you, especially when your not right in front of the camera. Other than that you guys are doing great, I like what you are doing.

Started on a work over rig then to flow back testing. This will be huge.

It may not be feasible, but I think if you could somehow get the front axles to drive, turn and switch between on, off, and regenerative breaking, it could open a new list of possibilities. Think a truck like Topsy where it never had a 6x6 option, but now that you offer it, it could be an add-on if so desired. I understand the electric motors put better torque to the ground, and you are keeping it simple on the rig, but for a future project, I think it would be an interesting concept.

Now someday to be do something for Haliburton would be huge

Top Notch Efforts and Research Being put into the Rigs 🙏💪 Where I spend all My Days most of my life for hours and hours a day or night . I Think Most Drillers scream at Helpers Because of that Diesel Engine Screaming Wide open all day and all night. It's not on purpose ;) Gotta communicate safely 🙏 Get that footage safely .... if you think I am screaming at the levers i am not im just communicating so you don't get sent home early or in a box 🤷🤠

Love whatcha guys are doing. Very interested in this.

Love what you're doing!

Congratulations, Chase and crew. What a huge step in your way to the top.

I have worked on diesel electric tripple oil rigs in the 80's!

Looks like you might be able to regen when the pipe is going back into the well. Now they use brakes and brake retarder

that background is so beautifull, that in the preview i thought it was a photo and a greenscreen!

@JP-xd6fm

5 ай бұрын

Canada mate

@claudenormandeau9211

5 ай бұрын

Mt. Robson

I hope this works as well if not better than you guys think. Your thinking is based on fundamental principles and use of explosion proof electric motors will actually improve safety of that of the current diesel engine powered rig. Whilst you will still run a diesel engine the spark suppression of the Cat 9L diesel is already there for mining so it's a no brainer. I wish you guys every success.

Yahoo 😊 So Happy for you guys... I love it when your in Alberta 😍 Go Edison Motors❤ Go Canada 🇨🇦