any questions about the carb cheater stuff, feel free to ask - most of this project has been built off of solid suggestions from you guys - heck, one of you out there even came up with the name. (were the designers and programmers behind it) Heres the 0-60 datalog, this is exactly what you would have with your own carb cheater also: thecarbcheater.com/?db=9xdmz also, heres a log file of us turning the CC on and it doing its adaptive AFR control stuff: thecarbcheater.com/?db=S1tn8

@jasonaxelson7721

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Would it be possible to use the carb cheater with a turbocharged 300? I am debating whether to go with efi or carb

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

​@Jason Axelson I dont recommend using a carb for blownthrough. Unless it's only going to be doing wide open throttle, they are very difficult to tune well for all driving conditions. Draw through is no problem

@michaelschoenau3305

Жыл бұрын

I really like the carb cheater concept. Simple yet seems very effective. I’ve had people question why I didn’t go with a “self tuning” efi kit for my 79 Bronco and choose a carb. Cost and simplicity. I’d love to get my hands on a carb cheater.

@GUE5TPA55

Жыл бұрын

where and when to purchase?

@jayburrough4308

Жыл бұрын

You should send bill one of those from old man garage KZread channel he is a big carb guy and has there own carb line they do a lot of racing.. his son has a big KZread channel to it's SRC street racing channel.i think it would get your product out there to a lot of people that would be able to put it to good use.good luck on everything buddy.lovd the channel

This is the realest dude on KZread no joke. I could listen to this guy talk about anything

@shabadoo24

Жыл бұрын

Luke explains everything in a relaxing way, Kevin from Junkyard Digs, Dylan McCool and Derek Bieri are the same way.

@Robrt32

Жыл бұрын

I agree he knows what he’s talking about instead of making something up like other channels but that is the most used statement on KZread. Almost every channel has someone claiming the same thing in some form or fashion.

@AFellowFloridian

Жыл бұрын

@@Robrt32 lol alright rob

@brianandglendaharkin9457

Жыл бұрын

Cold War motor is on the top list as well . 👍🏻🇦🇺💯⛽️

@theskydiverdriver7193

Жыл бұрын

Yup !

I think you're going to see a big market for the Carb Cheater once you really get production up. I think ALL the old muscle car guys who are CARB ONLY and won't take the plunge into EFI just don't' want to deal with the computers and all, this thing is a GAME CHANGER! I love it!

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

We also worked hard to make it under 400 bucks where even just a wideband alone (we have one built in to ours) is 200 dollars now. And even with efi, your still going to be tuning unlike what people seem to think. Personally I'll take a carb any day (and I'm even a heavy programmer by day at work, so that's saying something)

@willallen7757

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's perfect, I was thinking about breaking down and getting Holley injection but I'd much rather go this route.

@anthonyblacker8471

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm in the same boat. I appreciate the honesty and hard work you put in. I feel like engineers are of a dying breed today, software is one thing, but hardware still keeps us moving forward and with today's progress and controllers we really can do anything.

@AndyL940

Жыл бұрын

Carbs became obsolete for a reason… because fuel injection is 1000x better 😂

@willallen7757

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyL940 and you think none of us knows that Einstein?

Luke is so down to earth and humble. Honest about what he knows and what he is teaching himself. Has no problem venturing into what he is not familiar with .Luke and his business partner are gonna go leaps and bounds with their cheater carbs product

Great job! That carb cheater is simplistic enough for us old guys to use. Glad to see a young engineer come up with it.

Amazing development of your product, Luke. Pretty mind boggling that it went from this little idea.....to developing all the peripherals needed to make it work, including a phone app. You're doing amazing work!

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

The prototype was acceptable, but once joe was involved, man we have been able to go really far on it together

The 300 is a legendary offering from Ford..It has a cross drilled, forged crank..like a 427..it has forged rods..it has forged pistons..it is a beast..Power Nation built one that made over 500 hp and over 500 ft.lb. of torque..I had one in my 1981 Bronco, New Process drive train for 475000 miles..before the body rusted off of the frame..everything else was fine..Long Live the Mighty 300 !!!

@yeboscrebo4451

Жыл бұрын

I went searching for a 300 and found one finally in an old 70s telephone truck parked in the woods in Tahoe. I have it all fixed up and running good now with a flat bed and ready to work!

@ratrodrigs9583

Жыл бұрын

Poor man's diesel

Glad to see that some young men are into old cars and trucks that is why I watch your videos

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Modern cars are soulless.

Lunch by the graveyard 😊 Keeping in touch with the roots. Thanks for another great video.

It's nice you walked through the process of correctly identifying the resistive lead, pointing out the difference between the engine not running and then running. Great video!

DAMN, YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING ON THIS PROTOTYPE! THANKS FOR TAKING US ALONG ON THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR CARB CHEATER. IT'S GOING TO BE A HOT ITEM. GREAT JOB. IT'S A BIT OVER MY HEAD BUT I WILL KEEP REVIEW THE VIDEOS UNTIL I GET IT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT TEST ON A DIFERENT CAR/TRUCK TO SEE THE COMPARISON. AND PART 3. ONE MORE THING, WHOEVER DID THE COMPUTER TESTING PROGRAMING DID A GREAT JOB, TOO.

A lot of people find going into the data / numbers more into this mechanic stuff kinda boring, (myself included), but Luke is just such a nice dude, that I will always like and share his vids for that fact alone. Dude seems to be a legit salt of the earth cool fella

Thanks for the mention at 4:55 man! Appreciate it! 😂

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

That's hilarious

Those old 300 in line six cylinders were one of the best motors ever

I'm gonna turn 59 pretty soon. I don't know much about engine mechanical work except for the stuff I watch on KZread..... Thunderhead 289, Junkyard Digs and Mook, Dylan McCool, Sleeperdude, and Halfass Kustoms. With all that being said, Thank You, Uncle Luke, (remember I'm turning 59)for this super Awesome content, your creation/invention and knowledge you share with your viewer.

I love this. This is my mindset, and my train of thought exemplified but a smarter and more motivated person. I dont want 35 computers, but im not anti tech. Dont make it more complicated, make the most simple thing better. This carb cheater is genious and i hope you stay safe because there are alot of powerful folks that are going to hate this. I dont need sniper efi, i need my carb to be smarter. This is plain awesome and thanks for sharing

I have a 68 f100 3 on tree and a 240. They will run under any condition thrown at it. A pleasure to drive when tuned right. Looking forward to being able to purchase your setup one day

I'm hoping I can buy one from you once you get to that point. Very useful and in the same vein as progression ignition, another brilliant idea.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

I know Ted who created progression pretty well, he's a great guy and extremely smart

I have an old Datsun 280Z that I’m converting from factory EFI to a carburetor setup. I’m liking how much this would help me tune a dual carburetor setup! Subscribed and turning on notifications on this one!!

Really incredible that no one has come up with this in the era of small-form pcb’s. I know that this is really just the tip of the iceberg and I’m glad to be here to see it. As always, I enjoy the informational videos on these old rigs.

@anthonyblacker8471

Жыл бұрын

He has a video where he had some fun with his garage door control in the house he was at.. I love the small form pc stuff (arduino is amazing!) controllers for days.. not professional with it, but I really love seeing it used in the real world. My friend was lead engineer over at Crestron back in the 90s 2000s, the beginning days of home automation, before the pi came out.. Fun and you can do ANYTHING with it

@TheKeymaster316

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyblacker8471 I’ve enjoyed the Pi for game emulation but there is some serious fun to be had with these units with the right know-how.

I really hope a few of these make it to a high school shop class. I think using these to do a unit on how the components of a carbureted engine work together would be amazing.

Hey thanks "Science Guy" for understanding and demonstrating how a load affects a resistive circuit and reading it with just a meter doesn't work (IOW having the load on the circuit, then measure). I tried explaining this to Derek over at VGG, and got treated like a wacko. Maybe you should send him this video......

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Joe is really smart - I'm pretty dangerous with circuitry, Joe is really darn good. Not much slips past he and I together. He's got me a few times like that, done a heck of a job bulletproffing our circuitry. Carb Cheater wouldn't exist without him, that's for sure.

Looking forward to this project getting out there and into the market. You guys are definitely onto something.

I really want to see you tune a windsor 302 with MC2100 carb. Nice Job by the way

I cannot wait to buy a carb cheater unit when you guys make it available. This will be the perfect setup to fine tune my woodgas powered projects and bring the manual/analog woodgas air fuel mixing into the current century! Keep pushing the envelope Uncle Luke!

@PaulThomas-qo9vy

Жыл бұрын

Great idea to use the Carb Cheater on your woodgas engine. What is the AFR range for woodgas? I've never even pondered that before. Wood gasification is fascinating to see & study but looked complicated to operate. Good luck!

@OUTTAGASGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

​@@PaulThomas-qo9vy The ancient rule of thumb is to hit a target of 1.88 to 1 woodgas/air mixture. The old fashioned way to hit that target is to introduce air into the woodgas before the intake via small throttle body half the diameter of the total intake diameter. Using a choke cable to regulate the mixture which varies by quality and humidity of wood fuel, gasifier temperature, hopper conditions, etc etc. I would love to see how the carb cheater reacts to that with providing PWM signal to a dedicated electronic throttle body to provide sole fuel mixing without a carburetor in mind. This is already a much better system than my simple arduino/PID setup that just monitors hi-low readings of a target AFR and then adjusts a servo to move the throttle body to reach AFR goals. The user interface is a game changer! Count me in for instant purchase.

Absolutely great. Anyone and everyone can learn from this. Ripper, Mate!

i put my pertronics on my 1979 ford and it is still good after 10 yrs.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

If you wire them as per the directions and use the specified coil, they never die. I've collectively put 180,000 miles on pertronix stuff without a single failure

Good to see you back Luke!

I like the "I don't know what I'm doing."meme on the foreground screen. 👌

drooling cause I want this unit sooo bad

Hey Luke. Sure enjoy seeing the old truck percolating like a champ. The old 300 is/was a great engine for working trucks. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.

Sweet truck. I'll take it over any new one. Any day, every day. Six and a four speed? Those babies were fun to drive.

The 300 I6 is probably the most solid running engine ever

That's a really nice 68. great video guys keep them coming.

Really cool to see the data manipulation in real time 👌

Making a carbureted vehicle absolutely efficient and consistent, it's a great idea. Luke I wish you all the best with this exceptional product. I love you videos you're really informative and thorough. Keep up the good work dude 👍✌️🇺🇲

Very few and far between, the people like you with a wealth of knowledge. Makes me feel sane hearing about the resistance lead. Can't tell you how many times I've argued with people about removing that, lol

Luke! Ford uses different lengths of push rods. Usually. .030,.060 longer. Fantastic video !

I love it r&d in the real world. Education fun and entertainment all in one video. You rock

Hey Luke, just wanted to say thanks to your tinkering, you've inspired me to start working on my hall effect speedometer/odometer Arduino project again. Keep up the good work, as always!

Great video👍🏻 I always learn something and found this episode helpful because I struggle to tune my 300! Thanks Luke!

I can't wait to get one of those on my hotrod. Man that's cool

My dad had a 1967 F100 long wheel base with a 300 in it that was a good truck .it would go from 0 to 60 a little quicker than what his does it was a 3 speed on the column

Great job Luke! You should send one to Kevin at Junkyard Digs

Thanks for taking us along on this journey.

I just did a lot of work on my cousin's 85 f-250 with a 300 six. My cousin is not one to do much to it except regular oil changes. So the spark plugs were the ones that were in it when he bought it new. So a full tune up. Also i put a four barrel intake, headers, new exhaust. Ect. Now it runs like new. And he is getting better fuel mileage. He is happy.

Stay with it Luke! I am confident you will succeed with this endeavor. I have an old '84 302 that I have thought about reviving for a daily driver, but I know the 2 barrel will need attention. I would also like to get more than the 140 hp out of it. I was going to get an aftermarket carb, but maybe you have a better solution here.

@Bender_B._Rodriguez

Жыл бұрын

if thats really an 84 I think you have a flat tappet cam and its not actually a 302

@DanEBoyd

Жыл бұрын

@@Bender_B._Rodriguez First roller-lifter 302/5.0 was 1985.

@tombryant1104

Жыл бұрын

@@Bender_B._Rodriguez The 302 was introduced for 1968 models, reguardless of cam it's a 302(I have one in a '69). The 5.0 moniker was first used on the '78 Mustang II, continued into the Fox Stangs. For '80-'82 there were 255 versions but 302 were produced for all years '68 thru '01.

Hi Luke and Joe! You know by now, all the big boys out there, (Holley, Edelbrock, etc etc etc.) are taking notice on the Carb Cheater. I am sure you applied for a Patent, TM, Copyright or whatever you can get on your product. When you get to the stage to market this, I would love to preorder one. Thanks much! Cheers from Motown/Dearborn.

Love the Big Six, cool to see a bit of it on this channel.

That trick with the needlenose vice grips and rubber hose is brilliant

Super cool. Your unit is going to help a ton of people.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

I hope so - so much of carb tuning is expirience. Carb Cheater does a really good job of bridging the gap of understanding. Most people going efi, really that's all the info they need at their disposal to succeed

@HFG

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@@ThunderHead289 I'm pretty sure you're the only person online who has really broken down carb basics for the masses. Unfortunately I forget things super fast. You know I'm a supporter!! I've already got a carb cheater earmarked for a summer project :)

I started with Chevy V8s with adjustable valves back in the 60's. Then I bought a 70 Mustang new with a 302 V8 that had non-adjustable valve rockers. If I remember correctly the way to adjust the valves was to collapse the lifter, measure the gap, and use longer of shorter push rods to get the adjustment correct.

love that outro photo of the farm truck. also, more on that chevy 2 please!

Thank you for leaving in the fact the battery wasnt on 😂 i do stuff like that too 😅

Best truck I ever had was a 70 150 w/300. Just breathe on the key and it started no matter how long it sat. I might've flogged mine to about 4k before shifting it I wanted to brag about speed.....LOL

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

We would have but it's neither our our truck so we didn't want to be hard on it - we may have shaved 3 seconds off tho 😄

Thanks Luke-- I learn tons from yall!! Have a fantastic summer- C U next time.😎

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much

I could see this being used for multiple carb balancing as well

I’m sure someone has mentioned this before, but I looked through every Alice in changes song I had access to to find the song in his videos. Turns out it’s a band called skorned. The song is psychosis. And it rooocks!

i have an 88 f150 with a 302 f.i. 4x4 5 spd manual and was thinking of putting a 300 6 in it. the 302 was overheated hot enough to warp the head.

Is glad to see you making videos Again Uncle Luke It's pretty amazing what you can do with that carb cheater Is it blows my mind I could listen And learn new things from you all day long Is that's what I love about your channel Is not only a great content Is but you actually explain So even somebody would Is my abilities Is kinda understands what's going On you and Kevin Brown Are Just amazing what you guys can do Thank you once again for all your hardwork and great videos

This is just so good! Good to see you go further with the cheater. Man that lawnmower carb on your v8 really showed what it can do.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

. I just wish someone could have made the carb cheater 10 years ago when I started out - would have been a cake walk to learn carb tuning. I got here the hard way 😅

Valve adjustment info is dead on. Have been doing it for years. Couldn’t tell you how many thousands of valves I have adjusted NOT on TDC. Been trying to explain this to different mechanics, unreal how many people don’t understand basic engine theory. Good stuff

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

There's so many things the internet shrouds in folklore that actually are very simple - don't get me started on pushrod length or ignition timing 😄

Good reminder on the points era having resistance wires in ign. circuit.

Fascinating stuff, another fantastic video.

My 76 F100 with 300 6 had an emissions rail plumbed into the head at each exhaust valve. I castrated the emissions and plugged holes with 1/2-20 set screws much like someone has done to joe's. I would guess your 300 is a 76-79 engine. As a 300 6 fan, your last two videos have been very interesting ! Thank you VERY much and keep up the good work !

@PaulThomas-qo9vy

Жыл бұрын

Yep! Lots of us 300 Straight 6 fans out here! Paul with a '65 F100 & a 300, 3 on the tree & factory Aux. Overdrive.

Very impressive. Thanks for sharing

I like what you are doing here! keep it up.

Great video. Glad your back.

I had a 1967 mustang with a inline 6 as a teenager I ran out of oil. All I had to do was add 3 quarts of oil and was good to go. Can't beat those old Ford 6 cyl.

Hey that's awesome you made another video ! I'm the dude that talked to you at the git n go truckstop ! I seen your badge for work but I couldn't read where it was for. Anyhow keep up the good work !

Great video Uncle Luke you do a great job explaining things to the average guy thanks so much Bill in Fort Wayne Indiana

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill, hope things are treating you well

The 300 heads have 2 different style rocker studs, one is a non-adjustable pedestal style, the other is an adjustable style. The rockers from a head from 84 and newer is non-adjustable, just tighten to the torque spec, 83 and older you adjust them like any other rocker adjustment. From what I remember, the non-adjustable style have a shoulder stop. That one looks like the adjustable style.

Thanks, Luke! These old trucks (67-72) are my favorites, I have owned a few BITD and I wish I still had one now.

Looks like a great program, can't wait to see next one.😁

Great Truck, love the 300 6 it's a tuff engin. 😎👌

Very good video ,keep up with making great content, your excellent, thank you

Thanks for the video Luke.

Keep at it uncle Luke, I always enjoy the content and information you provide. I'm old enough to be your uncle but dun matter. I'm interested in this fancy gizmo for carbs mate. Would be awesome to have one on a few of my old vehicles. Cheers from Australia. oioioi

I love seeing the improvements to your device. I can't wait to see it on a strangers car one day

Whats up thunderhead 289 other great video from y'all finsh up f100 .2:05

an old man on my block has 2 of those both kept cherry in a pole barn he built just for those trucks lol him and his wife always drive em in holiday parades that year model always looks sharp even when there "patina " everything

Love your content, love the truck, my dad actually had a 71, same color, stick, with a 360, just as clean, ill be be looking to buy a carb cheater

You guys do great work! Aux relay ideas: RPM based exhaust cut outs maybe, or would it be vac based? Hmm ... variable tuned length headers Muwahahaha... all of the scavenging!

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Whatever someone wants to do with it, it's there with multiple setup styles 👍

Really like your choice in vehicles to work on, not Junk like so many channels. Hey, proper bolt torque is a procedure: clean and lube the threads, then pull in a single smooth pull till the torque wrench clicks. Pulling on a tight or torqued bolt is not a real torque value as friction between nut and bolt is higher than the actual torque. Also, you can change the rocker stud and nut for a Chevy style adjustment that allows you to set the lash, the "zero lash plus 1/2 turn at TDC".

Nice looking truck 👍👍

These videos accomplished too things for me: 1. Made me want a carb cheater. 2. Made me want an old 6cyl Ford truck to put it in. Too bad there aren't any trucks like that here.

Testing grounds in a cemetery--no complaints from the inhabitants! 😆

Great video !!

If they haven't already, Holley is going to come knocking with a wad of cash. Don't sell out man.

Nice looking forward to this becoming available

That pickup is damn clean for iowa weather. I know, I'm about 65 miles southwest of you.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

You can't hardly find any good 70s and early f series trucks anymore - dried up in the last 10 years

Hope to run into you again this year on power tour. Enjoy the video😊

Love that carb cheater idea. Keep up the good work guys. Very interesting!

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

It's honestly ready for release - held up my legal/government right now but we're getting there. Can't keep our hands chained forever

@davetapani3253

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@@ThunderHead289Need one for my old Dodge. Very cool love it. Can't wait.

@GRAMZ67

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@@ThunderHead289 I definitely want to get my hands on one of those when they are available

The old 300s where my favorit ford motor mechanical point as kid just easy to work and Torqueyliy little trucks for what they where I love all straight engins

Love the tech videos Mixed with the mechanical Luke nice work as always @ThunderHead289

Yeah as far as I know pretty much all the 300's had hydraulic lifters and you just torque the rocker to spec, and any excessive lash/noise from there on would be lifters on their way out or already dead. In rarer cases a bent pushrod. I had to call my dad on that one and he agreed he couldn't remember any of the other big 6's (300 series) ever having solid lifters

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Rocker style really is unrelated to solid vs hydraulic - granted I wouldn't try to do solids on pedestal torque style.

@MacPoop

Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderHead289 Let me rephrase - non-adjustable is what we had thought. Preload on the rocker sure but as far as lash adjustment you just get what you got out of those for the next 30 years lol.

The same resistive lead issue comes into play when converting an older GM engine from points to the GM HEI distributors. It WILL run, but like you said, not quite right and the HEI module will not hold up long term.

that is cool nice work

Anytime I see something ghetto rigged, it warms the cockles of my heart, I appreciate that way more than fixing things "the right way" screw that, I like to see McGyver stuff.

If you have a GM with points you also have a resistive lead and an extra wire from the start solenoid on the starter to the coil. That's why people bitch about the Pertronix units which are as reliable or even more so than a HEI which is saying something. I've run both systems for over 40 years on almost everything without a problem and the biggest problems those units have is people not reading or understanding the instructions. A full 12v is a must, you can just jump the ballast resister on a Chrysler, and the second problem that bites most people in the butt is using the proper resistance coil. Some coils have a resister built in that simulates the resister wire for a point ignition and the Pertronix units require a specific resistance (ohm) primary winding in the coil depending on which model you use. You gotta pay attention and your project is a perfect example.

@ThunderHead289

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more - very rock solid comment right here