Thanks for the review Chris! 🙏🏼 We're loving this mini series so far.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Neewer Tean, that's awesome you checked out this review - impressive for a company to be on here responding. I enjoyed the mic - awesome product for the price. But if I would improve something, it would be the noise floor on this one. Looking forward to what you will release next.

Man! this is dedication at its highest! thanks a lot for your effort!

@ChrisSpiegl

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Helpful video, thanks! I am currently using this mic (though replacing it soon) and it is nice to see the differences in all of the configurations.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

GREAT Review

@ChrisSpiegl

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that.

I bought a set and I found that they are really nice for the low price! The only thing I noticed is that there is a significant tolerance between two capsules of the same type. So I bought a second set and matched the capsules. Now I have one really 'good' set and a 'useable' set for less critical recordings. Self noise is no problem with the ones I have. I suppose self noise is much lower than 24 dBa.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting analysis. Great job and thanks for sharing.

Very good and detailed explanation and tests. From 3 feet away, can the loss be rectified by the preamp? And have you noticed if they sound better with the preamp (which I assume you were using the whole time)?

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

With the distance you could of course pull up the gain and depending on how clean your A/D converter is that may not be an issue. However: - the Neewer NW-410 themselves have a lot of noise and that also is going to get louder with more gain. - I am using the Zoom F6 with 32bit float recording which means I basically can add my gain after without issues and it still was really noisy. - you’d also pick up from all around if you pull the gain up. Happy recording 🌸

Hey Chris Spiegi thank you so much for the reviews of these microphones, I had time to listen to Neewer, Behringer C-2, t.BONES 140 and oktava mk-012, could you please help with reviewing Samson SAC02 penci condenser microphone? Thank you for making this available to creatives out here.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Nyatiti, thank you for your comment. Right now, I am not looking to review more pencil type microphones since I made my choice and went with the Oktave MK-012 for now. I hope you will find someone who reviewed the SAC02 and that you can gather all the info you need to make an informed purchasing decision.

Would like to hear more of the mic you’re talking about, as opposed to the mic you’re recording with. Consider recording the presentation with the mic you’re talking about.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, that’s what you are hearing. The only part which was the Oktava is the disclaimer at the beginning. Everything before and after that was the Neewer (unless otherwise displayed in the screen). There is a note that pops up in the upper left corner signifying which mic you’re hearing.

@josephthrower2839

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl If that’s the case, then, ignore. All is well.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephthrower2839 You're welcome. If you want to see more comparisons of this mic with some others and a lot of sound samples… here is a video for that: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKZlj8yMaLyoXcY.html

Excellent review! Do you know if I can use this mic with my zoomH1 as the recorder using and adapter to connect the XLR cable of the mic into the input of the ZoomH1 ? Or this only works with external records that have XLR input?

@ChrisSpiegl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Since these two need phantom power and not just plug-in power, I would not even try to connect them to something that only has a TRS input. So, personally: I'd get a different recorder which supports XLR inputs and provides phantom power.

@AndresArosemena

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl thanks Chris!

I think it's always better to not cheap out and go for Oktava just for noise floor as other than that thr Neewer sounds perfectly good to me.

@ChrisSpiegl

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

You have to drink every time he says dig or digging

I hear distortion (clipping?) cracking at high frequencies. Sounds like it cannot handle sibilance. 18kHz top from a condenser overhead ......?

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

I did not explicitly hear those out. But it definitely is a mic with limitations.

@albako13

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl notice when you speak ,the very shasp tones are rough, not clean. For cymbals,hihat and even speach one has to filter out - and then it looses the beauty

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

@@albako13 I had a felt sense of that probably. I didn't quite like the sound and noise floor. So I am not using these any more and returned them after these tests were complete.

I found the noise floor way too high on these. Anything over 20 dB isn't usable for me. The iSK Pearl has a 16 dBA noise floor and it's a $30 mic. The Oktava MK-012 is 18 dBA but that's also a $230 mic. 20 dBA would be good on these given the price. 24 dBA makes them useless for anything other than really loud guitar and drums IMO. Even some of the cheapest Behringer SDCs have a 19 dBA self noise. Now Neewer doesn't market these as dialogue or voiceover mics, but if it can't do a decent job on spoken word/voice it has no place in my locker.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

I can totally understand your point in regards to what one likes to have. I personally chose the Oktava MK-012 out of the lot and I am pretty happy with it - especially in combination with the Zoom F6. The Neewer for sure is not on my list… I was a bit disappointed because I would have liked to see so much value for such a good price. But naaaah; that's not gonna work. One question for you: Where did you find the noise floor given for the Oktava? I had a hard time finding one in the dBA scale?

@dylanj8676

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl Oktava USA, Oktava-Shop, and a catalog I have all say 18 dBA. It's listed as Weighted SPL in my catalog. Oktava-Shop's listed specs are great. It even tells you the off axis rejection of the capsules. The MK-012 hypercardioid capsule has 8 dB of rejection from 90° in the 250-5000 Hz range.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

​@@dylanj8676 ​ Thank you for these details. I appreciate that. Great to know and get more details like this. I for some reason did not find this information at the time when I was researching it.

Low noise floor? The official 24dBA spec is the highest I have ever seen.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

For the price it’s still very interesting.

@aristotle_4532

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl For general experimentation perhaps, but I doubt that the polar pattern implementation is capable of offering useful experience.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

@@aristotle_4532 I would say that there are most likely going to be people who can really pull something great out of these mics if it's all that is available / affordable. The polar patterns are versatile and ok. Sure there are better mics out there but those cost more than double or even 3x of this set.

@aristotle_4532

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ChrisSpiegl I would say that due to cost and quality, only beginners/amateurs would get these, and those do not really need a stereo triple pattern pair. A pair or entry levels cardiods would do the job or even a single one. And those would have better quality, some specification for polar pattern, and even multi year warranty. The greatest cost in audio is time. Even the most expensive mics cost very little money per hour, even less than these mics, because they hold their value for years, decades in most cases and provide good audio quality as an additional advantage. 10 euro mics may exist, but they serve no purpose really. Anyone's time and audio quality is worth more than the cents per hour of production saved by a mic of this quality. If in the same time I'm using a camera that will end up costing a lot of money, it's a ridiculous choice. Are you shooting with a 50 euro camera using a 10 euro lens or is it a 50 euro mobile phone? No, because it doesn't make economic sense. Are you recording into a cheap camera to show the actual quality of this mic in the situation one would probably use it? No, you are using a low EIN recorder that costs a lot more than the mic. Besides, anyone knowing how to use mics, would not use a mic of this quality. His/her standard would be higher,. Today good mics are affordable and even a top quality mic that will serve a professional production for decades of daily work cost less than a good mobile phone, a good zoom lens, or a cheap mirrorless body that will be worthless in 5 years.

@ruudvansteenis

3 жыл бұрын

I suppose the 24 dBa is a very safe specification. I have them and noise is no problem. I suppose the real self noise is much lower than 24 dBa.

to be completely honest, these sound like crap to my ears. the samson co2 pair is pretty unbeatable in this price range.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. I tried getting my hands on the CO2 at the time but sadly was not able to. But I was also pretty underwhelmed with the Neewer and much rather would use the T.Bone: crsp.li/tbonesc140 Supposedly the SC140 is pretty similar tot he CO2.

@rosselur

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSpiegl I hadn't heard about those before. Watched your video just now, and yes. They sound miles better than the Neewers. Much crisper and airier.

@ChrisSpiegl

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosselurI think t.bone is more available in Europe. But they are good. 👍

At the beginning of the video, you say the word “serious” when I believe you mean to say the word “series”. I understand American English is not your first language, but just thought you should be aware that when you say the word series, it comes out sounding exactly like the word serious which is a different word in the American English language. Just something you might want to practice.