William found the right woman who was raised in a normal stable family, and was lucky enough that she agreed to marry him.

@michelleb3698

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. It's a credit to Catherine that she was able to join the monarchy and aristocracy successfully. She and her family faced snobbery, even from William's friends, who mocked her mother's time as a flight attendant. She and the family also endured years of unkind treatment in the media. She has never looked for sympathy. Catherine is tough.

@maryk.donovan7912

Жыл бұрын

It's too bad Harry couldn't have married a nice woman with a nice family and strong family relation. Harry is still without a family to lean on

@helentaylor7132

Жыл бұрын

@@maryk.donovan7912 I feel bad for Harry as it is, but if he ever hits the wall of reality after having burnt his bridges with the RF, his situation will be even more pitiful. I think the RF would welcome him back (minus Meg), but what would happen to the kiddos? She rushed him right on through the process to permanently bind him to her. It would be better for him to maintain his obliviousness throughout his lifetime as the alternative would most likely become an even worse version of Living Hell.

@despicabledavidshort3806

Жыл бұрын

​@@helentaylor7132i can't believe there's still people that believes there's real kids 😂😂😂

@Ariadne-cg4cq

10 ай бұрын

Harry had to leave the army because he had failed to pass the exams to be promoted to the rank of major which every officer has to pass otherwise he has to leave on completion of 10 years of service.

Difficult to work with? We call that a "bitch". Harry and Meghan deserve each other. 🇨🇦

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

They are a "Folie a Deux"

Ironically, Harry & his pals used to mock the Middleton family by saying 'Doors to manual' in relation to Carol Middleton's previous job as cabin crew., a lowly position in life by their standards. And here we are - Catherine has become the consummate royal, through patient hard work, while Harry is out in LA playing second fiddle to his wife. If I believed in karma...

@helentaylor7132

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the Middletons gave the RF lineage a much needed injection of good genes, class, common sense and real love.

@edennis8578

Жыл бұрын

​@@helentaylor7132 Absolutely. All people have to do is look up what happened to the Hapsburgs for proof of what inbreeding does. Catherine's family also injected a good dose of intelligence, common sense, and family values, like you said. All good things, and things that Meghan didn't bring.

@SMRT79

Жыл бұрын

Oh my word! This just reminded me of something - I read an article today about Doria Ragland and her past…the story now is that Thomas was away too much so Doria begged to move to LA so he’d be home more, so they did. But it didn’t work out. Then Meghan ended up living full time with her father (no dates are ever given of course) and it says “while Doria pursued her career” but another article says she went away to get her education…anyways, the article about pursuing her career says she moved away and opened her own travel agency that ended up going bankrupt…then she moved back to California in 2011 when her father died bc she inherited his house and that’s when she went to college and got her degree in psychology with social work…says she graduated in 2015 and went to work at a center there after becoming licensed in 2016 because you have to do 2 or 4 years of work supervised…but then she quit that in 2018 to move to London to be with Meghan and Harry! What’s wild is the following: 1. The article about her travel agency also mentions she was away often because she was a flight attendant for her travel business. Now my dad was a travel agent and owned his own travel agency in the 80s through the mid-2000s, he wouldn’t have been able to be a travel agent AND a flight attendant- that’s just not possible! He couldn’t book people’s trips then jet off as a flight attendant bc back then if people had issues with tickets or hotels rooms or whatever, my dad had to be available to help! This was before booking vacations online was a thing, he had to work out flights with the airlines and call hotels and arrange cars by phone, there was no online booking so Dorian story is sketchy, yes - but is she WAS a flight attendant- then that’s same as Cathrines mom was so Harry making fun of her mom for that career makes him a jerk and a hypocrite bc he thinks Doria is the Buddha…never hear him saying Doria and Markles were low bc she was a flight attendant. 2. Catherine’s mom built a successful business that made a great profit and she just retired and sold it for millions…Doris’s business (travel agency) flopped and she filed for bankruptcy and ran back to CA. So Harry is twice a hypocrite! 3. Meghan talks about how she’s so compassionate bc she grew up watching her mom do social work…hahah! Doria didn’t do “social work” until 2016 and then she did it for 2 years and quit and her license expired and never has been renewed! Meghan was s grown ass woman living in London in 2016, she didn’t grow up watching her mom do social work - the damn liar! 4. Doris’s now teaching a jewelry making class at the local community college where she lives in her inherited house in CA! Her supposed “social work” business is some sort of shame for money laundering bc you can’t find any info or clients nothing online about it…and it lists Doria as the CEO, VP, and secretary and no other employees or board members! How she teach a jewelry making class at s college if she’s supposed to be doing social work? Hmm… Doria is a scam artist and many say she went to jail for 5 years for tax evasion involving her travel business! That’s what happened and now she’s mooching off Meghan and H and helping them launder money and run their Mary-Jane growing business (imo).

@francescaderimini2931

5 ай бұрын

It wasn’t Harry it was William who said that about Catherine’s Mother!

@tanseypenfold2109

Ай бұрын

You believe in karma? What ever has Catherine done to become so ill then? I believe awful stress can cause illness. I wonder who caused Catherine's and Charles ????

As i get older, i realise how much of a stabilising force the Middletons have been for William. He is very close to the family and they give him what he didn't have in his own family unit. You can see it in how they are trying to raise their 3 kids. Harry was always troubled but couple that with a partner who can't deal with that in a mature way and you get what we have now. The whole story is fascinating as it is history happening in real time

@raquel5878

Жыл бұрын

The fact he met Kate, moreover at the very beginning of his adult life, has been absolutely crucial in William’s life and development and growth. He owes her a lot.

@happysmith6666

Жыл бұрын

Agree completely. Catherine is his rock, and good on him for being able to take that in and lean on her. Lots of us who grow up in chaos perpetuate it in our adult lives because it’s all we’ve ever known. It takes a lot to embrace a different way of being and that’s very much to William’s credit. If Harry had found a steady, emotionally mature partner, I think he’d be a different person now.

@robinanna5531

Жыл бұрын

I think that's true, but I also know that Harry and William have had different characters from the beginning. Look at their school grades for instance. William chose Catherine and not someone more like Meghan because he's got a much steadier head.

@m.h.6499

Жыл бұрын

@@robinanna5531And in an interview, William said he wanted his mom’s death to “make” him, not “break” him. (I’m only at the beginning of her video, she may say this).

@rachelwieselthier9518

Жыл бұрын

I disagree..the whole nature vs nuture…Harry was born a mean spiteful, jealous person! It’s not because his mom died nor the what ever else he whines about.. We are seeing the real Harry!

MM has Diana’s flaws and none of her virtues. ( paraphrased from Lady C)

@AJA-ie5uu

Жыл бұрын

Same goes for her younger son. He is all the worst aspects of both parents. William thankfully is all the best

@buttercup1765

6 ай бұрын

100 percent

I believe that because Harry acted like a 13 year old boy, everyone coddled him including the Queen and his father. The Queen thought he was funny and fun to be around. He was his father's dear boy. William did learn the important lessons from his mother's and father's life. He learned that Diana had courted the media when it suited her but couldn't get rid of them when she didn't. He understood that there had to be a relationship with the press but you can never let them in to far or they own you. He fiercely protects his homelife privacy.

In my opinion Harry's not a prize at all, lol.

@kakacoco5

Жыл бұрын

Not even as a prince 😂

@lonilonelony8419

Жыл бұрын

Word. Everyone is waiting for MM to get her comeuppance, but I’m pretty sure she is getting every day being married to that nasty dolt. 😂

@joycenichols6187

Жыл бұрын

Hairbrain a prize. Ha ha ha ha ha ha 🤮🤢🤮🤮🤢🥵

@robertlavigne6560

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it ironic that the Queen preferred Andrew and Harry. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ The family is so dysfunctional. Have a great evening, Debbie Lavigne

@jomarsh6449

Жыл бұрын

Jo..Jo ..Jo!! Of COURSE he’s a prize, girlie!! He’s the quintessential BOOBY PRIZE!! ( great name, btw!!😉)

Nonsense. I lost my Mom at 4. My Dad worked his ass off to keep a roof over and food on. There were never cozy moments. My Dad is my hero. Period. Full Stop

@mariabunch3541

Ай бұрын

Right!

Harry was coddled and enabled his entire life, including by his mother. He had no ambition or drive because he was too busy being a bad boy.

The rumour was that Diana sacked Tiggy because the boys were very close to Tiggy and Diana was jealous.

@lightningbug276

Жыл бұрын

Yes the BBC’s Martin Bashir planted that in Diana’s mind.

@AJA-ie5uu

Жыл бұрын

I remember it being reported at the time that Diana was furious that the boys had invited Tiggy to some sort of family thing at school rather than their embarrassing mum (who can blame them), and she insisted Charles got rid of Tiggy after that. She seemed like a very emotionally selfish mother

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

Diana even accused Tiggy of having an affair with Charles

@gingernightmare9152

Жыл бұрын

@@marybalding1435 Diana spread an ugly rumour that Tiggy was pregnant with Charles's baby.

@partlycloudy3519

Жыл бұрын

If you want to know just how despicable diana was to tiggy go get the the official inquest of bashir & BBC shady dealings . Diana accused tiggy of being with child with charles child & tiggy sued the press & threatened to sue diana who leaked the story to the press & yes tiggy won her lawsuit ! Diana was not mentally well .

Catherine and the closeness of her family saved William 😀

Diana out a lot on William from what I’ve read. She would go to him crying for support and complain about how terrible Charles was. It makes sense that he was upset at Charles. She was trying to turn him against his father.

@Anna_Key

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Just because one parent complains about the other, does not mean it's true. It DOES confirm they are manipulative though.

@sheilaperrone7654

Жыл бұрын

And may I add, you DON'T as a PARENT dump this sort of emotional baggage on your child! William was only about 10-13 years old at the time. William is one strong man.

@annemoncrieff3875

8 ай бұрын

U don't know if she wanted to turn him from his father. She just needed someone to talk to and there were few she cld trust. So, unfortunately her eldest son got the ear bashing. U know life isn't always straight black and white. Emotions, education, experience etc all influence pple as they grow.

@graceyoakum8863

6 ай бұрын

Don't judge unless you walk in her shoes.

No none of his previous girlfriends seemed to think so even with all the trappings they ended the relationship even though he says otherwise but we know he is a noted liar one said she didn't like it he way he treated people these ladies in my opinion had lucky escapes

@pbeck610

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, down right yuck!

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

They knew their own worth, smart women.

I think your assessment of Harry being enabled to do the absolute least but get away with the most because they feel bad for him is spot on. I think that Charles was the best father he knew how to be-& I agree with you that Charles & Diana were oblivious to the damage they were inflicting in their children because they were selfish. Diana turning William, a literal child-into her confidante & “defender” is disturbing, inappropriate & sad. I think that William has a less idealized version of Diana than Harry does. Harry has turned her into a Saint which we know she was not.

@Foggy_Til_Noon

Жыл бұрын

My mom & I (we're American) used to watch the news together growing up. She'd say "That Prince Harry is an ornery lil sh*t, ain't he?" while laughing amused (at times bemused) at his antics. My mom said "Yup, they're gonna have problems with THAT boy!" But, my mom just figured he was taking advantage of the fact that he, HARRY, could do WHATEVER he wanted, WHENEVER he wanted with little to no consequences cuz he didn't have the added RESPONSIBILITIES that William did. Harry's emotional/ mental abilities and SEVERELY underdeveloped. NO insight of his own self. NO foresight into the important things in life. Absolutely an absurd man-child he's turned into!

@valkyriesardo278

Жыл бұрын

I do agree that is wrong for a parent to lean on children for moral support. That goes double when the complaint is about the other parent. Children deserve to have a childhood and both parents. It is cruel to ask a child to split their loyalty. On the flip side, there were not many Diana could confide in. The palace was complicit in Charles' adultery. Nobody protected his wife's interests.

@SMRT79

Жыл бұрын

Yes, spot on 1000%! Said perfectly and of course Harry idolized her - she never told him no and gave him whatever he wanted, and William shielded him from her fits…Harry admits he doesn’t remember much of his mom so he never registered her crying or manic tantrums, he probably just recalls her buying him whatever he wanted or figuring out how to get it to him and babying him! And he wants to perpetuate that feeling bc he never saw a grown up woman acting as a mom, he just had his mom acting as his best friend and showering him with gifts and praise and he could do no wrong. Part of that was she wanted to win the boys to her side - probably saw Charles as coming out the winner in their divorce as he was still going to be king, he ended up w his true love, he had his parents and family, money, fame, purpose…Diana was floundering and had always depended on the men in her life to entertain her and provide, she had not idea what to do with herself but she didn’t want Charles to win everything so she tried to win the boys to her side. It’s sad really.

@Ariadne-cg4cq

11 ай бұрын

@@valkyriesardo278Diana’s sister was married to the Queen’s private Secretary and lived in an apartment in Kensington Palace but Diana didn’t want to have a close relationship with her which is very odd

He didn't admit in WAAAGH that his lack of academic qualifications barred him from promotion in the military? Did I understand that correctly?

@sarahmurphy8030

Ай бұрын

Yes..

I don’t think Charles could ever win with the boys. Diana though she had some amazing qualities, was very manipulative and insecure person.

Wow. People has forgotten all the times he spent with his children. I remember seeing so many photos of him and the boys enjoying themselves. NO FAMILY is perfect but it does not give one an excuse to behave so inappropriately

@elinstar6034

Жыл бұрын

Tom Bowers has made it clear that he doesn't like Charles, and will slip a critique into interviews whenever he gets a chance. He has recently started on Catherine too. 🫤

H saying they were putting out stories about him to cover up for PW’s bad behaviour: Look, if PW in a totally wasted state went around punching photographers we all would have heard about it.

@mezzamuddle

Жыл бұрын

🎯

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The press would be more keen to report about Williams misdemeanours than Hs just because he’s heir. It’s very easy to judge ‘parenting skills’ when you have no idea about the British upper classes and, while you may not like it, all the children would’ve been supported by a wider ‘family’

@StandAsYouAre

Жыл бұрын

@@marybalding1435H made is so easy for the media to put out content about him. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. H crying and moaning the media keeps telling all the dumb stuff he’s doing. Either: A) stop doing dumb stuff B) do it completely by yourself so no one can witness it. The whole extended family probably have put up with a lot of crap H has done over the years. I’m sure there has been a lot of talks during breakfasts, dinners and social gatherings where they wish H would just pull his head in. But that’s what most families do. Black sheep get discussed because they hope it won’t happen in their direct family unit.

This chapter makes me love and admire William more. Catherine’s influence helped him, I’m sure but he turned into a wonderful man and a genuine prince.

William had to go to bat for his mother because she continually expected him too. She was no better parent then Charles. William also was devastated when Diana publicly aired her grievances.

@lornarettig3215

Жыл бұрын

She was an exhaustingly immature woman who should not have been a mother. Parentifying children is unforgivable.

@elizabethmadron1336

Жыл бұрын

Diana lacked insight. My mother is historonic,narcissist and borderline. Has caused me much embarrassing scenes throughout my life. Never apologized. It is especially damaging when you are a daughter. You do not get the mothering a daughter needs. Mother daughter bridal shop moment turned into a embarrassing scene about my dress size reflected back onto her. She caused such a scene that she was almost kicked out of the bridal shop. No mother daughter moment to treasure. My mother is obsessed about her weight and mine. Diana was too.

@RIPmichael22

Жыл бұрын

King Charles is a hell of a better parent than Diana EVER was

@gardenroom65

4 ай бұрын

@@RIPmichael22both had major problems….

@francescaderimini2931

15 күн бұрын

Diana didn’t give Willian a heads up when she told the world she was having an affair with Hewitt! He was so devastated and ridiculed at Eaton he stay with the headmaster and his wife! He watched it at his school with his friends! Diana didn’t care or love!

I read where Harry would fly into an uncontrollable rage if he was told “No.”. No wonder the family didn’t know what to do with him.

@Cheere Denise A "frog" is an insult that the French are called by Brits. Its because the French are known to eat frogs legs snails, (escargot to name them properly) also, but as Harry called the barman a "fucking frog" it can be assumed the guy was a French man and Harry was insulting him because of where he came from‼️😉🇬🇧❤

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

Oooooh!!!!!!!!!!! That makes way more sense!

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

Unconscious Bias!

@redrumtruecrime

Жыл бұрын

@@rt66vintage16 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣‼️

@redrumtruecrime

Жыл бұрын

@@rt66vintage16 A reptilian slur‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣

@pamithequeen

Жыл бұрын

Escargot is snail 🐌 😅

Hi from Australia, Princess Mary of Denmark is from Australia and changed everything for Fredrick to become his bride.❤

@mezzamuddle

Жыл бұрын

And she never complained. Learning Danish is a billion times harder than learning God Save The Queen.

@BevHart

Жыл бұрын

And Mary is such a beautiful and graceful lady, HAHA not bad from us Aussie convict stock. 🇦🇺

My understanding that Diana was the reason that Tiggy was removed. Diana was very jealous of both boys' relationship with Tiggy. She also accused Charles of having a romantic relationship with Tiggy. Diana was jealous of everyone. I agree with your thought that what Diana did with using William as her confidant is evil! It is about the worst thing you can do with your child, and do many divorced women use their sons as the replacement for the husband. It is selfish beyond the pale!

@JT-lt5gr

Жыл бұрын

My mother-in-law

It’s wild to me that she acts like that to people. I mean she was pretty enough and met enough connected people that should have been able to at least hit B-List levels. I guarantee that word spread behind the scenes about her behavior and that’s why she couldn’t get better opportunities. We see time and again that she hustles pretty hard and there are plenty of bad actors who still gets decent roles. Her behavior was and is her downfall.

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

She's not even an average actor, but thought/thinks she should be in A-list movies. Background extra maybe, but she'd ruin the scene by looking at the camera.

@bettysmith9466

Жыл бұрын

😄😅😆

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

Exactly that. It’s not her being biracial or even her lack of acting talent it’s her attitude that she thinks she’s better than anyone. It is almost a Messiah complex but she treats people so badly. She just thinks she deserves so much more than people are giving her

@retrogradepink

Жыл бұрын

more than any other industry, it seems like Hollywood is at least 50% who you know and your reputation, the other half, or less, your actual talent. i don't have personal experience in this area beyond taking a filmmaking workshop years ago, and some classes about TV production, but what every teacher emphasized, over and over, is that on set everyone has a part, no one is above anyone else, and if you don't behave yourself you will trash your reputation and people in the industry *will* find out, so good luck getting work after that.

@pamithequeen

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Yes I agree with your thoughts on Diana. Her children were at school for much of the year, so she should have been able to stay away from men in the small timeframe she had her children at home. I hadn't thought of it before but yes, she was repeating the pattern of her mother walking away. I think much of Harrys anger is towards his Mum but he can't see it

If only Harry met a good girl and kept working on the Invictus game, honoring his mother's life and work in Africa, in hospitals and all over the world. He couldve been a great working Royal everybody wouldve loved. Instead, he married Megain 😐

@CarolFremel-my4hs

6 ай бұрын

He’s basically a fool

Henry sure does seem that he's gotten over his hate of being in public.

Easy, Diana was a Narcissist and not a very smart one.

@sarahmurphy8030

Ай бұрын

Harry's got Diana's mental health problems

@MinThNat

24 күн бұрын

​@@sarahmurphy8030 And followed her education path :/

I remember vividly the events of Charles and Diana before their divorce, they were in the news all the time and it was obvious that Diana was showing the world what a wonderful mother she was, and I'm sure she was, but she told a story about how William used to push kleenex under the door when she was crying. SHE leaned on William whereas Charles, according to Diana, was actually closer to Harry. You're right both parents were extremely selfish and it was so horrible that they put their children in the middle.

@iolandagirleanu9006

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like having a what - 14-15 year old entangled in your mess? Pushing Kleenex under your door? What?

@Ciara1594

Жыл бұрын

I've never believed that story. Why would he need to push Kleenex under the door when there was toilet paper and I'm sure Kleenex already in the bathroom. 🤨

@sheilaperrone7654

Жыл бұрын

Diana was THE WORST one dumping these problems on the shoulders of an 11 year old boy. Her SON! It's bizarre and VERY wrong.

@lindawhitcomb6939

Жыл бұрын

@@Ciara1594 perhaps, if true, it was feeble gesture by a adolescent that just 😢 know what to do. Pushing klenex under the door was a gesture. Not a practicability. But you’re tight. So much garbage and innuendo swirling around

@SMRT79

Жыл бұрын

@@Ciara1594I think he was doing anything he could to help her feel better - she was either asking him for them to make him feel bad for her OR he wasn’t thinking about what was in there already but was doing his best and the only thing he really could do to comfort his sobbing mother - he’d be there with Harry and his mom a basket case locked in the bathroom…I would bet William was trying to comfort his mom, she wouldn’t answer him through the door but he heard her crying and as the oldest and protective of his younger brother he probably didn’t tell Harry but would try to distract Harry with play or tell him he’d handle it. I can relate bc my parents fought like wild cats and I’d hide in the closet with my little sister and sing her songs or play dolls or tell stories - anything I could so she wouldn’t pay attention to their yelling and be scared…and I’d also try to get in the middle of them or disrupt them by yelling about their fighting to get them to realize what they were doing with two children there that were hearing and seeing it all. My sister grew up protected bc she was born with a deformity and eyesight problems, had brain surgery at 4 months old and had to wear glasses and eye patches and was teased and struggled, so my parents would excuse a lot of her behaviors - she was never mentally affected but her physical struggles made everyone excuse her behavior and she would get away with everything - I was the oldest and “responsible” for her…I’d do her after school chores for her just so she’d not get in trouble when my parents got home, at 12 I was the after school care for her at 7 years old and the helper with my grandmother who lived with us in the last years of her life. I can empathize with William and can see how Harry became what he is. My sister had to hit rock bottom in her 20s before she got right. After my folks constantly bailed her out of trouble, my mom finally took the therapists, counselors, bonds men, lawyers, police, etc. advice to let her hit the bottom to rebuild and that saved her. Harry has always been saved and so his bad behavior has perpetuated into his 40s. Until he learns that hard lesson from experience; he’ll never change. It’s hard to watch your kids/sibling go through that, especially after being their protector for so long.

I think the term Harry took the blame for William is wrong, Harry got caught because he always went too far. Also as first child maybe William was more cautious.

@magentass3064

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you, and I’m sick and tired of people saying that. You have never ever seen William falling out of a pub, fighting with a bodyguard, puking in the street, taking drugs. That is just absolutely crazy and I don’t like it when people constantly hark on about how Harry is having to take the blame for William, that is absolutely not true. By the time Harry was on the club H scene, William wasn’t even about anymore he was at university. I’m really sick of it, why are people constantly bashing on William. Harry was evicted out of a pub which is not that far away from me, the whole village knew about it, you never heard that from William. He was abusive to the bar staff, he was abusive to the landlord, that is why Charles turned his basement into club H. William wasn’t around anymore.

It wasn’t just that H lost his mother but his father was being vilified and blamed (unfairly in my opinion) by the press and the British public for the marriage breakdown. I think you have to take into account that Tom Bowers doesn’t really like King Charles and this colours his opinion. Apparently Tiggy left because Diana was jealous of Tiggy, even accused her of having an affair with Charles which was wrong and hurtful. I expect I’ll get flack for this but I’m fed up with Charles being blamed for everything

@RIPmichael22

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 😭😭🧡🧡 I totally agree! I am glad to see someone else standing up for the King xx

@jannjones7465

Жыл бұрын

i too feel charles was an east target for blame and camilla - i feel they are suited - diana was not queen material as she was too vain like her ghastly daughter in law !

@elinstar6034

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I felt it strongly at the time - I nearly wrote him a letter of support because the media seemed so brutal and biased towards Diana. Tom Bowers has shown by his snide comments in recent interviews that HD doesn't like Charles, and seemingly doesn't care for Catherine either.

@deeshires8721

4 ай бұрын

Agree, Bowers is always trying to find something wrong with William and Charles. I think King Charles realizes Harry has the same mental problems as his mother.

@mariabunch3541

Ай бұрын

I agree with you completely! Thank you for commenting.

I think Diana's idea of prioritizing her boys was turning them into the men in her life; oversharing with them, relying on them for support, and dumping her emotional trauma on them. Chasing after adult male companionship was a lesser offense, and might even have spared her sons additional damage.

@lornarettig3215

Жыл бұрын

I’ve also never agreed that Diana was a ‘great mother’. She was too immature to be a wife, and too immature to be a mother IMO.

@pennylando3145

Жыл бұрын

@@lornarettig3215 No, neither have I. It may have been immaturity, but I tend to agree with those who believe she had BPD. None of her many relationships lasted and by the law of averages it couldn't always have been the other person's fault.

The fame was her ultimate goal, I don’t think she cared about what Harry was like, being vulnerable made it even easier for her…..

@shelleythompson-brock6412

Жыл бұрын

OH, she definitely targeted him, and honed in on his insecurities. Straight out to the Narcissist's How To book.

Maybe I’m wrong but I think Charles was caring enough to let his kids hate him because he knew they needed adore to their mother. Diana had to be adored to feel loved. He was definitely the wiser of the two parents and he was counting on the kids growing up and gaining the clarity that normally comes with that. What he didn’t foresee was the tragic death of Diana, greatly magnifying the dynamic, and the unfortunate reality that Harry is in incapable of such mature insight.

@conniegalan5534

Жыл бұрын

Charles was too busy with pleasing Camilla. He has never had the reputation of being a good father. He was stand offish to everyone but Camilla. For whatever reason, she did it for him.

@busolaolagunju3410

Жыл бұрын

@Cornbread Oracle . Insightful comment.

@busolaolagunju3410

Жыл бұрын

​@Connie Galan You really don't know that. As a matter of fact there's masses of evidence to the contrary on the public record.

@user-rk1ie8lh4l

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same and totally agree. Diana, despite the numerous documented affairs even while married, was seen as the devoted mother. Charles was vilified, in large part because of the Diana mystic. I respect C & C for their long standing love and just getting through it. I pitied Diana because of her immaturity and lack of education her family, especially her grandmother, offered her up as the virginal sacrifice. Thankfully she did do so much good for so many due to her emotional empathy.

@m.h.6499

Жыл бұрын

@CornbreadOracle, that was well said, and I agree. I also think Charles did a lot behind the scenes he hasn’t been given credit for. I suspect Harry was ungovernable at a very early age. Diana took him to therapy for behavioral problems very early and wanted him to attend a special school, not Eton. I think Charles also tried to give Harry different potential forward paths, agriculture and farming as one example. He didn’t qualify for the Army, but they paved the way for him.

If by prize, you mean something that will help you achieve your goals of wealth and fame, the Harry was definitely a "prize" for Megan

@busolaolagunju3410

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

William probably had the advice of the Middleton family and calmed the waters for him

@here_we_go_again2571

Ай бұрын

At the very least he and Catherine could be with the Middletons and know that they would not go to the media.

Diana fired Tiggy. During the separation period and after the divorce, Harry and William became so close to Tigg, that Diana allegedly felt she threatened her status as mother.

Taking drugs does not help your mental health Harry!

Diana’s mother wanted her children but her own mother supported Earl Spencer who had more power.

@MeItsMeLol

3 сағат бұрын

Correct, Diana’s grandmother betrayed her daughter, Diana’s mother, in their divorce by taking the Earl Spencer’s side against her daughter. The grandmother was also the one who, with help from the Queen Mum, pushed for the marriage of Diana and Charles. That granny was a piece of work, more concerned with titles and money than her own family ties.

Thank you for bringing the Harry voice back! Oh, how I have missed it.😂

Harry has Borderline Personality Disorder, comorbid with Histrionic & Paranoia. His mother suffered the same, but she also had exquisite qualities. Nobody understands BPD unless they have suffered a person with BPD in their life. There is an incredible book called, "Understanding the Borderline Mother" by Christine Ann Lawson.

@pennylando3145

Жыл бұрын

I have a niece with BPD so I have some insight into the disorder and its effects on both the sufferer and the family. I also have family members who are mental health professionals and although they can't diagnose from a distance - rightly so because it would be unprofessional - their 'observations' tend towards Diana probably having BPD (or EUPD as it's now known). I would also agree that Harry ticks a few boxes for male BPD and/or a behavioural disorder.

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@pennylando3145 In Lawson's book, Diana is mentioned as is Sylvia Plath & Joan Crawford. BPD is also on a spectrum & not ALL BPDs will ruin your life -that depends if they are also obsessed with 'targets of blame' & are 'offence collectors' & vindictive. The Soap Opera, pity party, drama Diana kicked off was so dangerous by the time she got herself killed, that the Queen was forced to walk about studying the miles of flowers. It was like rubbing a dog's nose in her mess, like Queen was responsible for Diana's death? INSANE. It was shameful of historical British public to demand that. If it was France, the Queen would have been guillotined. Terrifying. Markle is just trying on the same story - "The Sequel, Starring Meghan Markle," but Diana did serve YEARS of empathy in her Charities & she like ordinary people. . Harry always had a dark rageful, vengefulness in him. As we say in Glasgow, "He is a "Shitey wee Bastard". Nice chatting 😃🥰

@bunnybuns7387

Жыл бұрын

55:16 55:16

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@LathenHamlet Yes, quiet BPDs do have the capacity to self reflect & can want to heal. DBT is effective but it is a lot of hard work. I doubt he has it in him unless his life falls apart.

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@LathenHamlet Yes the Group Therapy is key. Mutual support & people can recognise the syndrome in others & they heal each other - keeping each other in the process.

Good episode. I totally agree with you about Diana and Charles being selfish parents. It is not a popular view about Diana-everyone always says how much she cared for her children. I thought to myself when she died-bringing her children on a yacht with her latest man and then going back without them were not the moves of a mother who put her children first. And then not thinking to put on her seatbelt? If she had put their welfare first, she would not have been running around Paris but would have been at home for them throughout their childhood. And confiding in William like he was a friend-very selfish. Maybe what Harry saw in Megan that was like his mother was that they were both selfish children? I do have a higher opinion of Diana, though, because she actually did quite a bit of charity work, and gave hope to many ill people. But as a parent? Sketchy at best. Megan is frightening in her ambitious self-obsession without any moral grounding. But the whole family situation is a lesson in how we must deal with the problems of our own childhood or they will be passed on and on and on. I wonder what problems the Sussex children are going to have to overcome as the next legacies of this dysfunction?

@dianeshelton9592

Жыл бұрын

You do know throughout her life Camilla has been deeply involved with many charities , she just doesn’t invite the press along. When compared to Diana she has quietly done just as much. In addition she has been riddled with arthritis for at least the last 20 to 30 years due to osteoporosis. Physically she is pain every day. She says she shows pictures of herself to her children and grandchildren telling them to look at the physical difference in her before and after having osteoporosis. It runs in families and her mother got so bad that her ribs broke if someone tried to hug her. Don’t fall for the goddess Diana myth. She was just good at self promotion. Just before she died her star was very much on the wane , she had dropped a lot of her charitable work and people questioning the fact that she was always on holiday, without the boys , with Dodie.

@jrpacer6355

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@GMK379

6 ай бұрын

Well said. Goodness imagine if Diana had chosen her boys over herself for a few more years? Been self sacrificing like a lot of parents are to establish a firm foundation for their children.

Definitely watch Spare people if you haven’t watched it, Cheere made it so fun and actually hilarious to get through 😆🥰

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

I've been avoiding the reviews of Spare, but I'll give Cheere a shot. Thanks.

@shelleythompson-brock6412

Жыл бұрын

No. I would never deign to patronize their lunacy, all for their gain.

Diana had 2 lovers before Harry was born: Earl of Pembroke & Maneke. That is when Charles went back to Camilla. His friends pushed it bc Charles was so worn down & depressed by Diana's emotional drama's. AND 2 of Diana's later Lovers were MARRIED & she called them AT HOME where their Wife slept & his children played with their toys. FFS.

@lornarettig3215

Жыл бұрын

Right - and this was not some big secret in the 90s, so I was always surprised at the extent of the Diana-worship. I never liked the woman.

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@lornarettig3215 Diana created a CULT around herself. It took me decades to figure out what I was witnessing & why I felt manipulated. Only after I experienced abuse form female friends for decades did I do the study - read 36 books. Her BPD was evident from the jump - BEFORE they were married. A BPD is so emotionally extreme & labile they can be having fun one minute & then scream at you like a Rabid Banshee or in a puddle of tears the 2nd. IF you gave them your left kidney last week they could still unleash on you randomly over lunch for some perceived slight. But Diana had that exquisite fragile quality like Marilyn Monroe which made them so compelling. Monroe had BPD also.

@elizabethmadron1336

Жыл бұрын

Oliver Hoare was another one. He was a married art dealer.

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethmadron1336 Yes and Dr Khan?

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@pamelacole2756 YOu may be right Dr K was not married yet - & I have also thought that it was Dodi's FATHER who pushed the relationship - even purchased Edward & Wallis home in Paris - which is where they were headed that fateful night. Maybe Father & Son felt her pulling away so insisted she see the pad he had bought for them. Al Fayed was probably involved in Arms Dealing bc his purchase of Harrods was in cash - as were other acquisitions. The Idea to send them to Hollywood, Dodi being a "Producer" and set up "Charities" was all possibly money laundering.

100% about Africa! I have ALWAYS thought she purposely set up that "charitable" trip to Africa with a hairdresser, photographer and make up person in tow just to eventually brag about it to Harry as everyone knew how much he loved Africa! She was smart and thought ahead should she get the opportunity and meet him one day. BUT, i have now even reconsidered if Harry really liked Africa. I am doubting it as this is where one of his girlfriends was from so he went with her several times during that relationship. See Harry was ALWAYS a follower, NEVER a leader. It's been said that he fully follows a girlfriend and adopts her lifestyle to his. I think the guy is lost and also doesn't have an original thought in his head just like his wifey. Don't underestimateMeghan. SHE IS VERY CALCULATING!

Since finding your channel I have not been able to stop watching!! I have so thoroughly enjoyed your reviews of Spare and Revenge and hope to hear your review of other books! You have a great way of making me feel like we are friends reading the books together! Love love love your way of seeing things and sharing your thoughts and views!! Thank you!

i think you are spot on about mm's strategy to hook harry for a very long long time!

In Spare and in this book, I keep wanting everyone to wake up and recognize how many times the Spare became the Heir. In Spare, Harry seems to think he is in direct lineage of all the kings of England, but the number of times the crown passed sideways or to a younger son or even to another family, means Harry SHOULD have been more seriously prepared. (Just look at his great great Uncle abdicating!!!!)

Well, I am convinced you are a better parent than most people who "raised" kids in the 70s and 80s😂. Adults didn't think about our little feelings back then...

I started tuning into this channel because of the Royal content, but I’m excited for the next book. I enjoy your opinion.

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

I’m so excited to hear that!!!! I hope others feel the same way!

@karenmetcalf8765

Жыл бұрын

I do too!

Aside from the prince title, there is absolutely nothing about Harry that would attract HW. 😐

It's not going to be any different when she starts working under William Morris Agency. They are one of the largest and most prestigious agencies in Los Angeles, CA. If Meghan thinks she's going to get away with treating people this badly, she's got another thing coming. They will hand her her ass!

@AuntClara0911

Жыл бұрын

On a tarnished silver platter!

@JT-lt5gr

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of "doctor shopping." People with personality disorders change doctors frequently when the current doctor doesn't agree with them. I think the medical term is "peregrination." People with Munchausen by proxy do this doctor shopping. M is agent shopping. She has always been connection shopping, next boyfriend shopping audience shopping, etc.

The press definitely over amplified the Tampax story. Charles never said he wanted to come back as a Tampax inside Camila, what he actually said was “God forbid l come back as a Tampax” (meaning it would be pretty gross). Still an embarrassing conversation for a future monarch nonetheless, but their wasn’t any need to make it sound any worse than it already did.

I was shocked to read about the multiple lovers that Diana had. Also, she had more problems than Charles. She was devastated by her parents’ divorce. She threw herself down a long set of stairs when she was pregnant with Harry because Charles would not do as she wanted. Charles was raised by nannies. How would he know how to parent?

@TeamTimmmehh

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, though, Charles whinged quite publicly about the parenting he received. If he’d given so much attention to the issue to complain, he should’ve given at least equal levels of attention to his own parenting style.

Wow! You are definitely one of the most fair KZreadr Ive seen about every one of them. I love it!

This Prince of Dope, was an undesirably even as a prince he still couldn’t get someone stay with him… Until Megan, and of course he is like starving person in front of buffet…

I completely agree with your disgust at Diana putting her problems onto her two boys, especially William. Selfish and immature.

In Britain,“Frog” is a derogatory term for a French person

I am so tired of the endless criticism of Charles, when Diana was no saint. She forced William, still a child, to be her confidant and shoulder to cry on. This hampered his relationship with his father, because when your mother weeps, you react. When she was gone, he was eventually able to see his father as a human - good and bad. The love between them is clear. The fact that he does not go on and on about his mom, shows he was able to move on. Harry, not so much. Meanwhile, William must have known about his mom’s multiple affairs. Charles had the love of his life, it’s time to move on.

This chapter shows how people oscillated between feeling sorry for Harry and finding him to be entitled. Neither of which were good for him a bit like his traumatised todger. In spare he talks about Chelsea not being good enough for Grandma because she’s a patty animal and gives even less reasons why he decides against Cressida. Where it seems more like these were young women who had a good time in their 20s then grew up and realised Harry wasn’t going to and wisely moved on.

You are so right about them sharing too much with the boys. The thing that really gets me with Harry is when their mother died my family had recently been through a similar situation that made us feel like we went through it with the boys. On 24/6/97 so just 2 months before my sister in law suddenly passed away at the age of 38. Her children went to school and never saw her again apart from my 4 year old nephew who was with her when she collapsed and miraculously managed to call a ambulance where they told him to go and get a neighbour as my nephew didn’t know the address. My nieces and nephew were 15, 13, 7, 6 & 4 years old so when Diana died we totally relived everything with the boys but none of my brothers children behaved like harry! One thing that did happen though here in the UK was some of the children went to children counselling something that Harry actually said in a interview wasn’t available in the UK when his mother died. How come my nieces were offered it then. He is such a liar. Did he think nobody in the UK could easily debunk this!!

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness! What a horrific tragedy!!! I am so deeply sorry your nieces and nephews had to survive that loss! How are they doing now, if I may ask? My heart just goes out to them in such a huge way!

@Lewel-qw6en

Жыл бұрын

@@cheeredenise thank you lovely 💖 they are all a credit to our family. They are all adults now as the youngest child is 30 this year! They are have fantastic careers and they never used their mothers death as a excuse to play up. So my brother could get back to work and have a life after his wife died I would look after the 3 youngest ones during school holidays and I didn’t want the 15 & 13 year old to look after their younger siblings. They were dealing with grief themselves without being stuck at home during school holidays looking after their younger siblings. I just didn’t want that for them and I had boys so my nephew spent most weekends with me and we would take him on holiday with us so the little ones had my mum and myself in the background to gently hug my brother so they had mother figures if they wanted but my brother did a amazing job. Some did need counselling and they took advantage of it as soon as they were struggling. We didn’t even need to suggest it to them they saw posters in school etc. funny isn’t it how harry says that he didn’t know if children’s counselling was available in the US around the time of his mother’s death but it wasn’t in the UK yet my sister in law passed away 2 months before princess Diana so he is speaking rubbish. Did he think that there’s no children in the the UK who never had counselling in the 90s or anytime after that date? Also something that totally annoys me about him and his lies that people constantly debunk is that his own mother was massively involved in Barnardos for heavens sake! Are you telling me this beans on toast headed freak had no clue of the resources available or that nobody around him suggested Barnardos when he was acting like a complete moron? I mean Of course King Charles weighed it up and thought it was better that Harry bombed around acting like Paul Gasgoine then it was to get him some help? Come on that sounds bonkers. Of course they would of helped him rather than spend their lives with him acting like a petulant Brastardo embarrassing everyone and humiliating the queen! I just can’t with this idiot when my nieces and nephew went through loosing their mother , some were a lot younger than him although to be fair my 4 year old nephew was probably more mature and these kids didn’t find every excuse to throw shade at everyone!!

I couldn't wait 4 your video love it ..I pray 2 God that MM finds your channel 😊😂

Lol last comment. Without sounding like a monster, I have to say… if he said “I spent many years not wanting to grow up.” Then his childhood couldn’t have been that bad. I had an awful childhood including losing a parent; all I wanted to do was grow up and leave my house.

It’s interesting how much comparison the Markles make to Princess Diana being similar to MM One thing they clearly share is the desire to run their narratives/setting up photo shoots etc regardless of anyone getting hurt including their own children Yes absolutely similar in that way Love this book

If you had to marry Harry, the prize would be his family. Can you imagine having the Queen as a grandmother-in-law? Wow!!!

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

Only if you were English.

@AJA-ie5uu

Жыл бұрын

Imagine having all that and then trying to trash and besmirch the whole family, the country, the institution and Her Majesty’s 70 year legacy. I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to live the royal life, or the English life, or for leaving. But the spiteful, vengeful nastiness (from both of them) is despicable

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

So, you know about “the English life” do you? It might not suit you but some of us like it

@lynnerobinson8380

Жыл бұрын

What is "The English life", that you speak of?

@AJA-ie5uu

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnerobinson8380 and @Mary Balding, fair question. But my point, in that context, was the life entirely bound up with living IN ENGLAND as a working royal family member. Not everyone's experience of English life obviously, but the life of someone who for the most part lives there, and doesn't have access to beaches, warm weather, wearing shorts most of the year and Cali-Hollywood-psychobabble types who just loooove you for nothing more than being a celeb.

You are so right if you actually I think William meeting Kate straightened him out completely.

Harry definitely is NOT A CATCH‼️👎

You are a lot of fun !! Hilarious Really enjoying your channel!!

The held him back for a year and he re-took the exam for Eton the next year which he apparently barely passed. It was not the right place for him but that’s where Diana wanted him to go and that’s where William went so….

@marymacdonald2379

Ай бұрын

Harry, with his lack of intellect, might have been happier and more successful in trade school!

I think she wanted to be this century's Anne Boleyn. I think she wanted to get with William but if she couldn't make that work she would take Harry. She didn't realize that the only money he would ever have is what his father was willing to give him and eventually what William would be willing to give them. She felt they should have everything that William and Kate had and should be seen as equal to them. She was either ignorant of how monarchy works or she didn't care.

@rt66vintage16

Жыл бұрын

She burned her own bridge. And she could've had it all.

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

I doubt Markle has heard of Anne Boleyn. 🤣 Parallel entities for sure tho'. Unlike Markle, Boleyn was cultured & well educated, but like Markle she was an 'All or Nothing' schemer.

@gailweinthal1459

Жыл бұрын

Being the narcissist she is I think she expected William to fall at her feet and worship her. Have you seen the way she looks at him in pictures where they are together?

@kittyb9383

Жыл бұрын

@@rw4754 Interesting that May 19th - the date Anne Boleyn was executed, was also the date of Harry and Meghan’s wedding…

@rw4754

Жыл бұрын

@@kittyb9383 WOW really? 🤔😯

Not watched yet but going by the title - I think they deserve each other

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

I think so too

None of us really know why Harry behaves as he does, but I don't fully agree with the view that everyone felt sorry for him and gave him a pass. Between the ages of 7-18, and for much of the year, Harry was at a boarding prep-school and then Eton, and it's not very likely that he would have been allowed to behave like a brat without consequences. These schools are very focused on results - which is what parents pay for - and prince or no prince, no matter how sorry teachers may feel for the child's circumstances, he or she cannot be allowed to become a disruptive influence. Harry was a problem almost from the moment he could walk, and his mother's over-indulgence didn't help. Harry himself has said on two occasions that his mother told him that he could do what he wanted, as long as he didn't get caught. I was shocked when I heard that, not only because it's terrible advice for a mother to give her son, but also that Harry didn't even realise that he wasn't exactly crowning his mother in glory. Still - even with that terrible advice, his prep school, Eton and the army should have been able to iron out the brat-like wrinkles, and the fact that they couldn't suggests to me that the problem may be that of a behavioural disorder. If you look at the list of indicators for 'behavioural disorder', Harry ticks a fair few boxes.

@lornarettig3215

Жыл бұрын

I think Harry was always a lazy and obnoxious brat with a chippy attitude.

@deborahlester4018

Жыл бұрын

I read his book. He was allowed to get away with a lot of lazy and bad behavior by his own admission, so take it up with him if you dislike that information.

@pennylando3145

Жыл бұрын

@@deborahlester4018 I can certainly agree with the lazy part, but no matter what Harry may say in his book - which from start to finish is hardly the last word in truth - I don't believe he would have been allowed to get away with a lot of genuinely bad behaviour. Ludgrove is a feeder school for Eton, Harrow, Winchester and other top schools, and parents pay for that. That type of school can't allow one child to get away with bad behaviour if it sanctions others for the same thing.

@deborahlester4018

Жыл бұрын

@@pennylando3145 SMH, have it your way. I taught Art at a feeder school for the ivy league. They learn early that daddy's stature makes people blind and deaf, while lesser mortals pay the piper. So, I will believe Harry here as it helps explain the otherwise inexplicable lack of personal accountability. We may agree to disagree.

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

@@pennylando3145 you’re right about the schools. People forget that these, Eton and the like, schools are full of children from aristocratic families. Harry would not have been that special so would have expectations upon him. I don’t think even William would get away with misbehaving. They would’ve made a point of treating the boys as much like each other as possible. And Hs book is so full of lies I cannot believe what he says

She’ll eventually dump Harry and move on to a billionaire as soon as she can dig her claws into one, she thinks she’s Jackie Onassis or something..

@edennis8578

Жыл бұрын

I could see her marrying an Onassis type. Onassis didn't marry Jackie out of love, she was a trophy. He loved Maria Callas, the opera singer. He was a big, bad-tempered brute of a man and their marriage was miserable. It's been said that he was about to divorce her when he died.

@CarolFremel-my4hs

6 ай бұрын

But Jackie Onassis wasn’t a Duchess, was she? The second Meghan loses her title she’s back on a level playing field - she’d hate that

My fear is that Charles will still never help Harry take accountability for his actions now because he's still riddled with guilt!

I don't think Diana was careless or vindictive enough to have her second child with another man.

@pennylando3145

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I'm not Diana's biggest fan but I don't think she would have made such a terrible mistake. She was erratic but not stupid.

@kcirtapelyk6060

5 ай бұрын

It helps that Harry does kinda look like Charles. Especially the eyes and ears.

I agree with you about Diana. Her and Charles should have sucked it up for the boys.

I don’t disagree with you. But I remember his birth, and I was (like all of us) rooting for this new royal family. It’s devastating to hear how troubled he is. You always hope the best for a baby. It’s all I can think of, how crushing it is, this little boy is so emotionally stunted. He is responsible for his own actions, true. . . . But I remember all that promise, as a baby. It’s so sad.

@tbstarot7080

Жыл бұрын

I DON'T THINK HOPE IS LOST FOR HARRY, THOUGH. NOW THAT MOST OF THE TRUTH ABOUT HARRY IS OUT HIS FAMILY UNDERSTAND HOW TO HELP HIM BETTER AND WHEN HE COMES HOME FINALLY THEY WILL WELCOME HIM BACK AND SET HIM UP TO SUCCEED. IF HE FAILS AGAIN, THEN WE WILL ALL KNOW WHO THE REAL HARRY IS. I TOO STILL HOPE HE WILL COME TO HIS SENSES AND HIS FAMILY STILL LOVE HIM. MAYBE HE WILL EVEN BE RECONCILED WITH THEM SOONER THAN WE THINK--MAYBE EVEN AT/FOR MAY 6. ROYALS AND ARISTOS DON'T REALLY SHUT SOMEONE OUT. IT'S NOT DONE. CHARLES, WILLIAM, AND KATE STILL LOVE HIM I'M SURE. I WISH MEGHAN COULD DO GOOD AS WELL BUT HER MOTHER TAUGHT HER "WELL." :(

@elizabethgrogan8553

Жыл бұрын

​@@tbstarot7080 I don't believe Meg actually loves Harry. She's got the title but she wants a very rich man, billions rather than milllions. They would have to sort out the children's time with each parent.

@tbstarot7080

Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethgrogan8553 yea i dont think meg loves harry but she might think she does. maybe same for him but idk. they will end up divorced. sooner rather than later. the custody battle will be horrendous

The key to handling true pain is to reach out to someone who is doing worse than you!❤😢

Of course a lot of divorcing parents unintentionally cause their children suffer. And it is selfish but in the midst of difficulties that are breaking you mentally & emotionally, you don't realise the damage you're causing. You are surviving. I am not divorced but we had business failure that almost led to divorce and both of us came close to breakdowns. I feel immense guilt & regret for the period of time when the children witnessed our stress & weakness. I ideally we would both have done better. But we were in survival mode (my husband contemplated doing the worst). We managed to hold our family together and we talk to our now adult children about it. Charles & Diana were going through their troubles in the full glare of the world's media & judgement. I can find compassion for them in those circumstances.

Harry being a goober is one of the. Reasons she hooked her claws in him - I believe. Perfect prey for her to use. She’s a relationship jumper.

Totally agree with you and your view in how both Charles and Diana went about their business with their children watching. However I do think Harry is definitely Charles son. His close set eyes and their ears. Yeah he’s a redhead but that also runs on Diana’s side. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Love the Harry voice!😂😂

@AJA-ie5uu

Жыл бұрын

He is the image of Charles, and even Prince Philip in his younger days

I have so much respect for you calling out Diana crap. People still have her as this innocent naive person. Whole I might give her thst when she met Charles or the arrangement was made. moving forward she was not innocent. I to this day still do not care for Charles because he was a more experienced and older man, but Diana came to the marriage with her baggage and was partly responsible for the breakdown of the marriage too.

Diana, I recall, said that Charles was a good father, unfortunately Charles was a needy person himself and Camilla was the person who helped him, so he wouldn't have lost her again. Diana was so wrong in including the boys in her problems, especially William. Totally wrong.

I'm Glad you noticed the dates and how they change there are quite a few like that - different dates, times and places 🤔

I always thought the Africa trips were just for Harry to see , you could tell she had no interest really.

I really like the opinions, analysis and humor you insert in your readings. I could listen to you all night.

Sorry but even Diana said Charles was a good father, he use to come home and bath the boys, feed and read to them. Even Harry said Charles always sat with him stroking his check until he fell asleep when he was afraid of the dark. I watched another video where the lady said she watched the Markle family interview and at the end there were two people comentating about the Coronation, one was the Editor of Majesty, she actually said that she spoke to Diana before she died, it seems Diana told her that it wasnt Camellia who caused the breakup of her marriage it was the people around them.

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

The editor of Majesty is or was Ingrid Seward and she did, indeed, say that Diana had confessed that. Shame nobody said anything at the time because Charles was made the scapegoat for it all. I think Charles, the (then) Queen and Duke of Edinburgh all did what they could including staff and others in the Royal household, so he was surrounded by support, but Harry just seems to highlight all he negative ‘poor me’ and ‘not my fault’ views and thereby excuses his behaviour

She studied Harry’s damaged and troubled past. She’s used that information as a weapon to sink her claws into him. This will NOT end well.

A Prize Prick is the only prize Harry is.

@krinklely

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha!!! Genius! 😂😂😂

She didn’t care what Harry was like. He was a prince. Access to tiaras, jewels, palaces etc. I think,it’s funny, she only wore a tiara on her wedding day ( and I think it was a copy 😂😂😂. Tiaragate? And she didn’t get the palaces either ( despite asking for Windsor castle 😂😂😂😂). An apartment in Kensington palace was being refurbished for them but, her own behaviour and actions ( taking secret photos of Charlotte sleeping !!!! Perhaps George as welll). No palace for you wifey, out to Frogmore you go! Thstd where the problem people are kept. For example the Duke and Duchess of Windsor . She also drove to her wedding in the same car that took the Duchess of Windsor. 😂😂😂. Perhaps they knew she was trouble then. 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

I had a similar issue as William with my mum, crying to me about my dad and I will never forget the cruelty she inflicted on our relationship. Whether it was conscious or not doesn't matter, its manipulation of the cruelest kind to isolate a parent from their child. I was always out with my dad working on the farm as a youngster but by high school I couldn't have a rational conversation with him, it still hurts decades later but thankfully I was able to self reflect and see her behaviour. I don't believe she was malicious, like Diana, they were too emotionally immature to behave like an adult and take responsibility for their role in problems

You said exactly what i said when i read Revenge. I cannot stand the woman but her tenacity in climbing the pole would be admirable if she weren't so vile.

I disagree that Charles was an absent father; I think that Diana manipulated the press to show how 'good' she was

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

I think he was absent in the standards of todays parenting, but that doesn’t mean his interactions with his boys when he was with them were negative. And we can’t hold people in the past to a modern standard. It’s unintelligent and it’s bad study of history, so I don’t mean to suggest I AM holding him to todays parenting methods (which have plenty of flaws too).I think he loved them as he knew how to do, and unfortunately sometimes love can be expressed as indulgence. Charles probably interpreted a heavy hand as being misguided, especially if he had resented the heavy hand that often fell on him growing up. I think the pendulum swung in the opposite direction as he worked to father his boys and in a desire to be gentle, he allowed wayward behavior hoping they would grow up eventually.

@marguerite9605

8 ай бұрын

I'm the same age as Diana and bought the tabloids. I admired her fashion, her beauty and mostly, her compassion. I read a LOT about her since they got engaged. I feel bad for her, but she also was manipulative with everyone, including William. Shameful. Henry is a disgrace and like her in many ways. I wish their titles could/would be stripped

@mariabunch3541

Ай бұрын

I agree. From what I can tell, Charles was a loving father from the beginning.

The only thing Harry could offer was a title attached to his. Character-wise? Nah, he’s not a good catch.

Done already? Whenever I see you post I have to keep myself from dropping everything and rushing to listen and watch, but I save it for bedtime. When you begin I never want it to end. You’re incredible at the reviews, so talented. So until next week. Tom Bower seems like a very good author, but I’ll also have to wait for your review, haha. Have a great week and will be keeping a watchful eye out for your next video ❤❤🇨🇦

Commenting half way through: This was an excellent analysis of the parent/child dynamic here, Cheere. I fully second your rant about selfish parents and for the first time I can sort of understand the evolution of Harry´s obsession and hatred of the press.Thank you! (I suppose a thank you to Tom Bower, by extension, is also warranted)

@cheeredenise

Жыл бұрын

Tom Bower was definitely clear that Harry’s parents were thoughtless in their interviews, but that rant was my own so I’m glad it was tolerable 😆

@alexsilva-vn7jc

Жыл бұрын

@@cheeredenise I realise that, and it was more than tolerable, it was refreshing! I´m so tired of the sacrifice of children on the altar of "It´s my right to be happy". Well said!

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

As I’ve said I think you need to take account that Tom Bowers dislikes King Charles, which is evident in this book. H was parented by Charles and the then King and Queen plus he would have been offered psychological help.

‘Frog’ is an insult from English people aimed at someone who is French.

Diana had all kinds of therapists, healers, kept calling her ftiends, who varied over time. Apart from that she was grooming herself, with trainers, hairdressers, and servants and security. She was still alone in the evenings, because nobody seems to stand her. She never had a close, functioning relationship with anyone. She might have been a good mother, but she didn't take care of their needs. Nannies sleep with the children when they are tiny, and at eight years old they go to boarding school. The nappies, the tough nights with a crying child, rich people don't do that. I've read most books on Diana, both her own words, and the more critical ones. and she was immature, unhinged and difficult, but also beautiful, charming and put up a nice persona to the world. Charles has had a lot of criticism over the years, and he's definitely not perfect, but he's more stable. He's heir to the throne, so he's not a normal man, but he's ok.

@marybalding1435

Жыл бұрын

Thank goodness, someone speaking sense about Charles. He’s had the blame heaped upon him and people thinking Diana was perfect. Neither of them were perfect but they had other things to do (well Charles mostly) being in the RF

Harry was never invited to Sunday lunch with the Queen. The regular lunches began after Diana's death and it was reported (source: Daily Mail article) that Prince Philip was extremely concerned for William because he noticed his depression and increasing withdrawal into himself. He was said to have told the Queen, "If you want your heir to still have a living heir, you had better step in and spend more time with him." It makes sense that William would have been most affected by Diana's death since she's groomed him to be her therapist/knight in shining armor his whole life. And Diana has always spoken highly of William calling him "my little wise old man" and any concern she has about negative publicity was always "what would William think". As an example, when she went to the Met Gala after her divorce in 1996, she wore a gown that looked like a sexy negligee and she was reported to have hesitated about the dress because she was worried that William would be teased at school about it (Ya think, Diana?! Never stopped you having all your affairs being splashed in the papers because surely that's more embarrassing for William.). It also didn't help that Diana openly said how stupid Harry is telling Royal Chef Darren McGrady, "William is deep like his father; Harry is an airhead like me." I suspect this is the reason why Harry ALWAYS put out the story that he's the Queen's favorite (he's not, it's Peter Phillips, the Queen's first grandchild) though he has said, and it was reported on several occasions that he resented the fact that William regularly spent a special "alone time" with the Queen while he was never asked. Though I sympathize with Harry on this I don't really blame the Queen nor Prince Philip. They're old, why would they want to spend time with a shitty little asshole grandson who's always mean to people and deliberately did disruptive, troublesome things when they had other, more pleasant, grandchildren around. Like the Queen didn't have enough to worry about being the Queen. Let Charles take care of his son. The Queen had a special interest in William because he was going to be King one day. And I think, apart from milking his mother's memory for monetary gain, the reason why Harry seems to be claiming Diana like he was his only son is because he's trying to make up for the fact that he, and everyone else, knows that William was always her special boy. The Boy Who Would Be King. Easy for Harry to re-invent the narrative when the woman concerned is dead and the brother can't/won't really speak up to correct it.

@jaygatsby2790

Жыл бұрын

By the way, Frances Shand Kydd, Diana's mother, didn't walk out on her children willingly. She was abused and constantly cheated on while she was married to Diana's father, and when the divorce happened, Earl Spencer, who had the money and the connections, won the long, bitter custody battle and ran her off.

@Ariadne-cg4cq

Жыл бұрын

jaygatsby3790. The Queen used to have William spend every Saturday with her at Windsor so that she could tutor him on how to be a monarch which was something she could teach him from her own experience which he could not learn at school. She was very concerned that it was her job to preserve the Monarchy so that she could pass it on to the next generations in a robust condition and popular with the people. It was a very important priority for her and she did everything she could to cherish and preserve it. All the years he was at Eton William would come to spend his Saturdays with his grandmother who would explain to him how to be a good monarch respected and loved by his people so as to preserve the monarchy and pass it on to his son.