Using the X Play review was a good framing device or hook for this review. It's funny how all these years later gaming at large still hasn't understood short, replayable, skill based games.

@magicjohnson3121

Жыл бұрын

It’s all about 100 hour repetitive slow open world games.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I know right, even now this attitude remains alive and well. 30 MINUTES AND THAT"S IT!

Any review that bashes X-Play is a good time for me! It's so sad because on Tech TV it was called "Extended Play" and was actually a good show. But when it became X-Play it became complete trash. Hated it since episode 1 and that hatred burns eternal in my heart. I said back when NAVGTR/Gaming in the Clinton Years/Flights of Fantasy was discovered and everyone was mocking them that "this is how X-Play will be looked at in another decade or two". Welp! Here we are!

I still remember when X-Play gave Raiden III a 2/5 because of Tate mode.

@EdgardR.

Жыл бұрын

Sol Cresta FTW

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

@@EdgardR. And I was like, “Come on, Adam, you’re a funny guy, but you can do better than that.” Of course, they also gave Doki Doki Majo Shinpan a 2/5 also. I can also suspect they did the same with WarTech: Senko no Ronde, but I don’t remember.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

LOL, top tier analysis

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUnderground I forgot why they gave Doki Doki Majo Shinpan a 2/5, but I suspect it’s probably because of bias.

@diegomauriciogomez1755

Жыл бұрын

Andrew Tate mode?

I forgot what a hotbed of bad opinions g4 was lol

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we have all blocked it out. Though I did enjoy attack of the show OG for being unashamed trash tv with playboy models ha

Please don't do edits like 16:30 , really hurts to look at. Good video otherwise!

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

ha maybe I had a bit too much with the effects filters ... maybe XD

Holy fuck those x-play reviews were insanely cringe.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Ha it's wild to go back and see how little they actually cared about reviewing the games

Yoo I have the sequel on PS2. Always wanted the Wii one too, but it spiked in price a while back during COVID and is just all over the place now.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

WOW even castle shiki is getting expensive, crazy

@AcceleratingUniverse

Жыл бұрын

30-50 dollars is not that expensive. the days of $2 retro games are long gone man

@capemron6330

Жыл бұрын

@@AcceleratingUniverse Most I paid for a Wii game was like ~30ish for Tatsunoko VS Capcom. I'm not paying 50+ for a *Wii* game before shipping and taxes. I'm not exactly a Wii collector either, I have a very small library of games for it and they're all games I'm really interested in. The 2nd RE rail shooter is around that range now too, and I used to see it for 20 bucks all day. Also not paying 50-60+ for a *Wii* rail shooter. I've paid a lot for some PS1 and PS2 games over the past few years but you don't feel good about it, unless it's a personal holy grail game.

I’m so happy I found this channel. Because of you my love for gaming has been reignited. I discovered the beauty of shmups from watching your videos and I have been on such a fun and addicting journey. I actually look forward to getting off work and blasting away. I’ve discovered so many great games and I really feel like I’m happier now that I found such a fun new hobby. I found your podcast as well and I’m really enjoying it. I know it sounds weird but my life is a little bit better now. Thanks!!!

The sequel to this is one of my go-to shmups on the Dreamcast. Love that game and I agree the bullet grazing is a lot of fun.

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

And mine is Border Down.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yes! from the sound of it the sequel is a big step up, so i'm excited to try it in the future :-)

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUnderground I think Castle of Shikigami III is even better, though.

@tommylakindasorta3068

Жыл бұрын

​@@SolCresta3405 Border Down is even better than Shiki 2. One of the most underrated shmups of all time in my opinion.

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

@@tommylakindasorta3068 I play the crap out of it on NullDC!

Thank you for sacrificing your time to give us regularlly uploaded content. I hope you cover Double Dragon Gaiden next month and cover Grind Stormer at some point! Keep up the excellent Work Mark MSX!

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

What a nice comment! I'm really glad you are enjoying the videos, because they are quiet a time investment! And don't you worry I will talk about Grind Stormer, I have a lot to say about the game actually, and I think that will be soonish.

The box art for the NA PS2 release is incredible 😄

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Top tier lol. I think they were literally trying to trick people into buying the game.

@AdsOfSteelGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUnderground Hahahahaha! Love it

I suspect the X-Play review is included on Wikipedia because Metacritic usually lists G4 "reviews" for some reason. Even so, it's still pretty strange in this case since the PS2 port doesn't even have a Metacritic listing.

Those G4 reviews were nightmare fuel, the Baten Kaitos 2 one was plain insulting.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW! and poor gungrave and like any ps2 action game, man they were brutal on ps2 action games.

@franciscor390

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUnderground That G4 Gungrave review hits Ign levels of not understanding the simplest of tasks. 01/10 too many bullets (and too much fun).

@Renovence

2 ай бұрын

-Review Japanese developed game -Make Japan stereotype jokes -SAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@franciscor390

2 ай бұрын

@@Renovence You see it's OK when they do it.

Shikigami no shiro 2 was the first Shmup together with ddp I imported back in the gc and ps2 days. I’m really fond of it. Extra kudos for Alicia Silverstone 😊

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yes I've heard shiki 2 has more of a cave feel, so I'm excited to try it :-)

Video hasn't premiered yet... but if you haven't included footage of a Mark dance party in the margins of the game footage, you've really fucked this one up.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

LOL oh damn ha I should have done that !

KOF Sky Stage for PSP has nice floating character graphics as well.

Good review! I’ve actually owned the port for a few years and while it is a pretty barebones port I thankfully never had any issues launching or with any sound driver.

The first game in the series is good, but it does have a bit of an identity crisis compared to the next two games. Sometimes, it's throwing Psikyo style sniper shots and at other times, it's Touhou style patterns. Also, the grazing is not as refined as it is in Castle Shikigami 2. The boss battle are really cool like you said and it still has enough going for it to be worth playing. Castle Shikigami 2 is phenomenal. The grazing is a lot more refined, there are even more characters along with an alternate shikigami attack for each character, and even the graphics and music are much better. The level design also encourages a lot more grazing. It pushes you in that direction more than Shiki 1. You need to do it in order to get extends and more bombs. Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that getting hit gives you a bomb in these games. Some people will take a hit very early on in these games to get an extra bomb, with hardly any impact to your score if done early enough.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I'm really excited to try shiki 2 and compare it to shiki 1. I really am curious if my critiques for 1 are addressed in 2, like the level design and the game borders and stuff :-) Hopefully the graphical style as well ha

I enjoy your commentary, but I don't understand why you have so many random video effects going on at random times. Ok, they are cool looking in a vacuum but it makes you a lot harder to look at.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I was experimenting with them a bit, the game footage of shiki is really bland so I was seeing if they could spice it up ... It sounds like I got carried away ha

i own the second game...the dreamcast port....what a fantastic shmup even if a bit on the hard side, at least for me

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes I ve heard the second game is a really solid upgrade, so I m excited to try it next :-)

I was introduced to the series through Sisters Royale (fans call it the 4th entry). The 1st one is a bit rough around the edges, but for sure the 2nd one is where it's at. For sure the main appeal is all the different characters and their abilities. But the gameplay highlight is definitely grazing for score as it's so much more fun getting high multipliers, lots of COINS, and stronger shots! I blame it for the reason why I can't 1CC because I get too greedy! The only thing I don't like about series is how long you can milk the bosses. I get too bored for that and then my score isn't as high! And yes I like playing as Reimu 😁

I picked up Castle of Shikigami on sale once, after it was brought to my attention that it was one of Tonnor's inspirations. I quickly saw the comparisons and it seemed pretty cool and fun in its own right too. I'll get around to it and probably the sequel too, eventually.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

awesome! and from what I understand shiki 2 is a step of from shiki 1, so I'm excited to try it too

I don't know if I'm alone on this, but in most shmups I play (especially bullet hells) I just can't pay any attention to the background, my eyes are on my character the whole time lol.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I think as you play the genre more this will start to go away, as you actually will start to be able to see the screen and control your character without looking at it :-)

Great review.I have quite a bit of nostalgia for the early polygonal games which remind me of the 32 bit and Dreamcast era.Really enjoying the recent dev vogue for HD res upgrades of these early games; G-Darius,Raysz, Raiden 3 all looking great IMHO.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah I really like this era of games too!

I totally agree with you about the lack of gutter indicator.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yeah that's going to trip you up, a lot ha

Mobile Light Force 2 was the best value in shmups.. I downloaded and printed the Japanese cover off shmups forum back in the day, definitely the way to go.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

It is a really cool value ha, I remember buying it for like 3 bucks for ps2 forever ago ha. I have no idea where the disc ended up though.

When I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was some cursed hentai game, for some reason. Turns out, the only thing that's cursed, in this video, is this G4 review.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Ha that g4 review is something else, that's for sure

Based on your review (and like what others said in the comments too), you'll likely enjoy the sequels more. Visuals are cleaner, general enemy design is more streamlined (though 1 has plenty of unique-looking popcorn enemy types, all based on the bosses themselves), and if you liked the bosses here, some of the fights will feel even more creative. The complaints about the invisible screen edges are very fair (and sadly the later games still have it and I also don't like it much lol) but CAVE and Touhou games (and tons of other shmups to my dismay) also have them, as there is a small space on the bottom where you can't put your hitbox. It is a much smaller gap in CAVE/Touhou than Shiki to be fair, but on the upside you aren't pushed to the bottom of the screen as often in Shiki games due to the grazing and point-blanking focus. As for the lack of scoring incentives, I am not so sure about that. In certain aspects you are right (like the very generous timer not putting any pressure), but on the other hand, scoring is pushed with the coin autocollection on shikigami use (and higher coin count depending on grazing) combined with the Every X extends. It is NOT a one-extend game, you have the first one at 150mil, then every 300mil. Extends also give one bomb. Kuga's inclusion in itself is also a way to encourage people into scoring since he is easier to score with even though the interactions and score ceiling are more limited. I'd say DDP has an actually much much worse disconnect between survival and scoring, and you don't see survival play trying to integrate any kind of chaining in it. It's not necessarily a problem in itself IMO, but if it is an issue for you in Shiki then it is true for DDP too. Though I imagine the more streamlined survival challenge in DDP may alleviate that a bit. In any case I'm glad you enjoyed the character variety and found some sort of "main", that's a very cool aspect of the series! I'm curious to see what you'll think of the sequels whenever you get to them. And thanks for reviewing the game!

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

On the point of the scoring/survival incentive, this is where I am going to very heavily disagree with a lot of the more hardcore players when it comes to game critique. Because in my view, the base survival gameplay is king, this is the foundation of what makes a shmup good. A great shmup, in my view, can be played enjoyably for both score and survival and no matter what top players say, this is largely reflected in the preference of the average players. In the case of DDP for example, it has phenomenal survival/scoring link because the scoring enhances the survival gameplay, and the survival game play is very strong. And what's great about it is that in sections where the survival gameplay is less challenging for superplayers, (loop 1) then the super players can opt into it's extremely strict chaining system. So at all times DDP is able to provide top level challenge and then elegantly can separate out it's challenge between new and experienced players. Shiki 1, on the other hand, RELIES on its scoring for the gameplay to be interesting. If you remove the scoring meta of shiki, it's actual level design and stage design is stale borderline amateur. The gameplay ONLY comes alive with scoring. So what my critique is pointing out is that this is a weakness of the game because most people are not going to care about the scoring, that's a fact. So Shiki is putting a weaker foot forward by not making the survival gameplay more reflective of the scoring meta in itself. Like the timer. The timer for survival has no purpose, might as well not exist. For it to have a more balanced design, the timer should effect BOTH survival and scoring meta, not just scoring meta. And this happens across the board for most of shiki 1's design. Like the extends. Clearly the extends only matter within the scoring meta right, if you can't even access them via basic survival gameplay? VS ddp where the extends are accessible to both survival AND scoring players and the extend system effects the game on both levels. So do not get it twisted, I know you like Shiki 1 alot, but DDP owns shiki1 all day every day and is clearly the superior game in terms of survival and scoring design.

@M_Knight_Jul

Жыл бұрын

Shiki 1 is one of those games where the best part is using the unique and fun tools and engaging with the system, but the game doesn't outright force you to do that for a clear, yeah. Some other games like Psyvariar and Karous are a bit like that too and they tend to have this more niche appeal indeed, but at least they offer a really great experience for those who dig deeper. In that regard DDP requires less initial proactive investment from the player because just shooting and dodging should be good enough. It kinda has to anyways, since there's not much else to it in terms of tools. However, I feel like you are not making a lot of sense when it comes to DDP survival and scoring mixing. Your own bias shows. For sure, its survival is solid in isolation; its scoring is solid on its own too. Together, though? There's no real overlap, your "phenomenal link" is imaginary. The most common DDP survival meta (at least for 1-ALL) is to survive the early game and then bomb spam every scary part. Zero scoring consideration. Shiki 1 has strats where players milk 5-1 boss even for survival so they replenish their resources to tackle the final boss gauntlet more safely. And scoring through the run will continuously give back resources basically like Battle Garegga. Nothing like that exists in DDP because the extends are trivial to get. The Shiki 1 timer may not be super important for survival but the DDP chain timer is even less so as it can never even actively hurt you. Following your own logic, it "might as well not exist". And the Shiki scoring system also lets people score specific enemy waves if they are comfortable with them, and play the others for survival, while DDP chains are more all or nothing. Still, I personally don't think it is a problem to have such a disconnect anyways, as long as there's fun to be had with the game. DDP survival not requiring scoring is fine by me. But then you say DDP scoring "enhances" survival, but also that DDP extends can be gotten without scoring (so where's the enhancement?), and that apparently survival and scoring can be elegantly separated (so it's basically two different games, not an enhancement), but if Shiki 1 extends require some scoring then somehow it isn't an integration and it doesn't affect the survival gameplay (as if a survival player would willfully ignore extends??)...so which one is it? There's a big web of contradictions in there.

Actually....the dance party is funny.😊 Shikigami 2 is a far more polished game...have 1 and 2 for the JP-PS2 and shikigami 2 for JP-GC...both very nice ports.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

xplay could certainly be funny at times ha. I think the original run of the show, where they were openly trash tv was fine (hit and miss humor for sure), but my issue is the legacy of the show since then, where people try to act like the show had credible reviews lol. The reboot I'm sure was like this too

CoS2 one of my favorite games

@stephenoleary9579

Жыл бұрын

Same

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yes from what I've heard shiki 2 is a big step up from shiki 1, so I'm excited to compare the two in the future.

Mark, have you ever made a video on Devil Engine? It is a great game, but unfortunately had that dispute among the devs.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I did forever ago ha. Or as i like to call the game, Drama Engine ;-) It's a weird one because i'm not sure what to say about the damn thing since it has all the publisher issues and stuff

I used to watch X-Play because I was already into Tech TV and video reviews weren’t as ubiquitous back then. The number one thing I hated was how much time they spent doing stupid gags and overreaching for jokes during the reviews. Sometimes they got through entire reviews without saying anything remotely critical. I only kept watching because I made my own game out of predicting how they would feel about certain titles then watching the review to see how accurate I was. I learned that they were not only bad comedians, they were also highly predictable.

I remember getting this for a quid in Poundland.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I bought it for three bucks at play and trade years ago, I have no idea what I did with the disc (this was before i was that into shmups).

Great review as usual.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Thank you woolly!!

2 is my favorite game in the series. Much more polished than the first.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

This is what i've heard!! I'm excited to review it in the future :-)

Hello, there was a channel on KZread called Bullet Heaven that had reviews on almost every shmup ever. The channel has disappeared.. anyone know what happened?

Imagine giving a 10$ budget title a 1-star review for being too short. How was this allowed

Castle of Shikigami 2 on the ps2 is a game an old friend of mine and me could never beat we get half way though and this dumb block puzzle just wastes us .. I really would love to see you do a break down on some winning tactics vs it like you did for Metal Slug.

The whole “you should be incentivised to engage with the scoring system” is an interesting debate. My solution is both. If you can make different modes then you can but the problem is that it will be more work and problems for the dev.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yes I'll have to do a video about this in more detail, because I think it's an important topic to explain and understand.

I had this on PS2. I wasn't a n00b but I also wasn't super hardcore and yeah...this one was kind of impenetrable. I just never got far into it.

Man, you should play Final fight lns. Its crazy good!

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I will! Bog has been telling me about it ha

I liked the review but plaese don't use the light effect you used for the timer and the scoring explanation. It is very distracting and straining to the eyes 🙏

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

ha yeah i was trying it out since the graphics of the game are pretty bland, I'll be a good boy and tone them down if I use them again ha

God hand got done dirty. Probably better than Resident Evil 4 and absolutely clowned on by video game reviewers at the time.

bullet grazing? deltarune.

The ps2 port does have some nice features with the practices mode. Too bad the game isn't more pleasing for the eyes. Also would prefer some bullets to be bigger. It's the thin red ones that endboss of stage 2 and 3 uses that I find kinda hard to see. And the dialogue seems to be missing! Otherwise a nice game.

This game plays very similar to Sister Royale on the Switch.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Yes for sure, though I personally like it more than sisters royal

I play cs2 and left this game in the corner. not because of the quality but because the sequel is a improivment. I like Those games because they are somewhere in a limbo of a transition of classic shmup and bullet hell (this more a proto bullet hell) and the formula was not standardized as today so there was much of experimentation. castle shikigami 1 and also those games from triangle service had unique gameplay mechanics (some good others not really). Playing today i fell that some of these games are unremarkable but well done games (wich is still a problem) , probably because some of the mechanics were good but lacked some polish but somehow their unique gameplay makes me comeback to them sometimes mainly because they are a experience i can´t find today. The boss fights are really cool, and i think modern bullet hells could learn something from them (also from classic shmups, but that is another conversation.

X-Play/G4 really was a cesspit.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yep, the run offs of low tier hollywood, brutal stuff honestly.

Remember when Gamexplain got their 4th string reviewer from Romania to review Daemon X Machina who obviously didn’t want to review it too? Not saying Daemon X Machina is good or anything just saying it’s obvious there are certain genres that reviewers just have contempt for.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yeah that's never a good idea ha. Also remember when polygon refused to review Star Fox Zero because they couldn't figure out how to aim a gamepad in real life.

I love the second game.

Honestly, I may try it at some point (I got the sequel after all) but most of the graphics just look utterly awful - especially the characters. I like the winged boss design, though.

I love x plays style to be honest to bad they never truly reviewed games I thought it was funny back then tbh definitely nothing like it

@TheElectricUnderground

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I think what people misunderstand about xplay is that it wasn't a review show at all ha. It was like a comedy sketch show that used games as the premise for the comedy, not unlike AVGN

Good riddance to both G4 and the even worse reboot of the same. You won't be missed.

@wussup12345

Жыл бұрын

I’ll miss the OG G4 but that reboot was awful

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I think during the original run, when x-play was openly trash tv, it was fine. It's the time since it's original run where sessler and co try to act like it was a real review show that is cringe.

@perlichtman1562

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUndergroundI miss the show. The more perspectives on gaming, the better - and anyone looking for a “hardcore gaming” perspective wasn’t watching the show for information anyway. Plus Adam Sessler was great to me when I met him in person at GDC 2005 while I was recovering from my best friend shooting himself. One of the highlights from a show where was I was overwhelmed by the sexism at an ostensibly professional show, even at 21 - a good memory right up there with talking with Nobuo Uematsu, Marty O’Donnel and a lot of other industry greats I got to talk to.

Gaming journalism was never good

@hewdyer332

Жыл бұрын

Ever read game fan magazine back in the day?

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

indeed, and here is some proof lol

@futureskeletons66669

Жыл бұрын

Edge is still good. Consolevania was, but they've gone a bit woke.

@-dash

Жыл бұрын

Greg Kassvin was good

@VuNguyen-fv5jl

Ай бұрын

Nintendo Power was really dope tho

This game looks awesome.

I had a similar experience with X-Play doing a favorite series of mine super dirty - Beatmania US for PS2. It was definitely a very flawed Beatmania game and many of the design decisions Konami made were questionable, like a tedious song unlocking system, ugly purple on rainbow color palette, inflated grades and trying to crossover the older beatmania catalogue with songs that were pushing 10 years old with a much jankier sound than the current Bemani music. It's not so much that X-play gave it a low rating, it's not a very good Beatmania game compared to the Japanese releases, but it's that they spent the time on the show just mocking the controller and doing a cringey DJ skit. You can tell from the footage that they played for maybe 20 minutes, had no idea what to do, and called it a day. They could have talked about the game's pedigree as the grandaddy of all music games, the keysounding, talk about the crazy difficulty and frame perfect timing, mention the Japanese PS2 releases, show some footage of Japanese super players in the arcade, anything. They just made fun of it and I'm sure most people who saw the episode probably never gave it a second thought afterwards. Konami couldn't replicate DDR's success and the game went straight to the bargain bin, which was great for the community in need of controllers, but after beatmania US was a solid 15 or so years of Konami ignoring the North American market for IIDX.

Clearly they don't understand the genre And making fun of it To bad the so called good games at the time Are mostly bad ones And themselfes included Capcom said it best A declaration of victory 😂

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yeah it's crazy that they don't even attempt to try to understand stuff like aspect ratio

The X-Play review sounds like the typical US gamers response to seeing the game for the first time. It's just to damn weebie for it's own good, lol.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yeah xplay were really basic in their tastes and evaluations, even in terms of humor

16:30 dude, please stop using this effect, I've got no epilepsy or any shit like that but I still got nauseous

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

Ha ok I'll def tune it down next time :-)

how about that 2000s era blatant homophobia eh

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

yeah x play were really into that type of humor at the time

Journalists only exist to serve low information people. I couldn't imagine looking up a reviewer score. I think for myself >)

Missed this video. Shocking how fiendishly shit XPlay was.

G4 was always shit, I dont know why people thought it wasnt b4 all the political shit.

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I think because we all watched it as children and all the crappy elements of the show went right over our heads ha. That could be my best guess. i certainly watched G4 growing up, and I think there was some novelty to seeing games talked about on TV mostly.

@voideyezz3234

Жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricUndergroundI see your point, it's all good, I used to read ign reviews growing up. We all gotta start somewhere lol

oh man that awful show. I remember them calling beatmania a "guitar hero rip-off" or something. what jokers.

Xplay should get shut down

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

Weren’t they already shut down?

@kirkcavenaugh758

Жыл бұрын

@@SolCresta3405 hehe

@SolCresta3405

Жыл бұрын

@@kirkcavenaugh758 I mean, G4 ended a while back. And there was a failed attempt to bring the channel back.

@kirkcavenaugh758

Жыл бұрын

@@SolCresta3405 hehehe

@TheElectricUnderground

Жыл бұрын

I will not rest until they do ... oh mission accomplished ha

So is this game getting worth getting or not let me know🤔🎮🕹😀👍🏾

oh man that awful show. I remember them calling beatmania a "guitar hero rip-off" or something. what jokers.