Same reason why Poland is diversifying tanks/IFVs - to not be reliant on one source. LEOs were a pain to deal with due to Germany BS.... US has its quirks as well.

@valerianocuomo996

8 ай бұрын

English bankrupts, Italy goes shopping in England, and from work, Italy, Fincantieri, Leonardo, European leadership,

In Poland, its most important armament will be the Brimstone ATGM. I am happy with this purchase, but I was hoping that the Polish Ministry of Defense would buy training helicopters in the first place, such as the AW-109, to replace them with the Mi-2 training helicopters. Minister Błaszczak has recently declared the purchase of more S-70i helicopters at PZL-MIELEC, i.e. machines of a similar size to the AW-149.

@przecie3856

5 ай бұрын

Poland use different types of helicopters AW149 for Army, AW101 for Navy, Apache for heavy tanks brigade and S70 for special forces because they already uses them

These helicopters are manufactured in Poland at PZL Świdnik.

@Happy-wb8gi

Жыл бұрын

Not the only thing Italian made in Poland, I think even FIAT have a plant there .

@nosferatus777

Жыл бұрын

no! It was designed and produced in Vergiate in Italy. now they reproduce it on all the factories including PLZ, which in any case belongs to Leonardo.

@BarnabaRudge

Жыл бұрын

Fragment of the article in Newsweek (18 april 2012) : "AW149 is a twin-engine rotorcraft of the latest generation. It was created in cooperation between engineers from PZL-Świdnik and the Italian-British concern AgustaWestaland. It can be used for: transport, medical missions, supplies, search and rescue tasks and combat support. Three prototypes of the helicopter were produced Serial production is to start in mid-2013." I relied on it, but perhaps the information contained therein is no longer up to date?

@krzysztofbosak7027

Жыл бұрын

@@BarnabaRudge"It was created in cooperation between engineers from PZL-Świdnik and the Italian-British concern AgustaWestaland. " This is bullshit misinformation for uneducated people. You would get the same info about Fiat 126p. Except Fiat 126p was at least produced under licenc in polish branch. This one wasn't.

@luigirescigno9226

11 ай бұрын

Come on bro, Leonardo doesn't need to cooperate in order to design and produce helicopters. It's literally the sole company in Europe capable of doing that without having to form consortiums.

Poland will be a military power when it gets all the equipment .. 200 F16V F35A F15EX KF21PL,1700 tanks K2PL and Abrams SepV3 in the future SepV4 many MQ9 Reaper Bayraktar Gryf Gladius drones and many more, for this training and combat planes FA50PL Block 20 and Korean Himarys whose names I forgot .. lot more equipment

@jacksonteller1337

Жыл бұрын

K-239 Chunmoo if im not mistaken about the name. Same situation as with the tanks a limited number of the non indigenously produced M-142 HIMARS and a shtload of the K-239 indigenously produced. 👍 But i doubt that they will introduce the F-15EX as it is high maintenance and the added strain on logistics will be too much. The F-16V, F-35A and the FA-50 block 20 have a lot of very similar systems if not exactly the same. The F-15EX has a lot of other avionics. The engine situation is already hard to sustain once they are all in service.

@ninjagamers2659

Жыл бұрын

@@jacksonteller1337 FA50PL Block 20 is a training plane that is to replace the Italian training planes because we do not have parts for them. KF21PL is to replace the F16C / D or the F16 will be modernized to the Viper standard, but the KF21PL is to be a help for the F35A that we are going to buy in the future

@twinsiesyt

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjagamers2659 FA50 is a light attack plane. T50 is a training plane. I guess FA50 can replace some of the attack plane as well as training planes.

@jacksonteller1337

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjagamers2659 the FA-50 is to replace the Su 22 and part of the Mig 29 to keep pilots skilled. Due to the F-16V being on back order everywhere and Poland is too impatient they aren't waiting. If they wanted pilot training aircraft they would have bought the cheaper T-50 or TA-50. Those are capable of carrying out training missions.

@bluesword20

Жыл бұрын

How does poland have so much money?

I would love to see Korean made K9's sent to Ukraine. It will be an interesting duel between North Korean made shells and South Korean made artillery/shells. The fact that North Korea sending artillery shells to Russia gives South Korea a green light to send arms to Ukraine.

@JustWine_1111

Жыл бұрын

Korean are not wanting to destabilize the balance of power in their area. Pissing of the Russians would destabilize the balance of power within the regio. The South Korea is having 'neutral', bad not hostile relationship. Directly supporting the Ukraine would make China, Russia & North Korea more hostile than they're already to isolated South Korea bastion

nice one.

Except it wasn't compliant with the requirements of the original tender. Actually only one helicopter was.

@jaroslawgarbus5676

Жыл бұрын

for everything mean for nothing

@times4937

Жыл бұрын

Why does Poland prefer this helicopter model? The answer is prosaic because Italians are more effective in corrupting Polish officials than the French and Americans who do not have such influence in the Vatican as the Italians. It was the Vatican, which has significant influence in the environment of the currently ruling Polish party, that secured this contract for the Leonardo corporation. Leonardo offered the same product that he lost in the tender competition with Caracal.

@times4937

Жыл бұрын

Thanks to the genius of Macierewicz, for a few more years soldiers of special operations forces, i.e. the best module of the Polish army, will use the old Soviet Mi series scrap, and when this refuses to obey, they will change to public buses.

@adampiech7143

Жыл бұрын

@@jaroslawgarbus5676 well, the original tender was for helicopters what would be used in submarine warfare and possibly operating from frigates. Only one option was available that had such version and that was Caracal. The other two would essentially have to be upgraded so much that they would be another versions. Ones that for instance would use materials that can resist corrosion.

@jamesbartlett5640

Жыл бұрын

@@times4937 Why what other helicopter was ideal?

so.... what was the reason?

훌륭한 헬리콥터

as a pole i can tell you actual reason without even watching: money

@miroslawobr3383

Жыл бұрын

What means money? ... If we can't protect our country

@Itchybol

Жыл бұрын

@@miroslawobr3383 money means cheap

@VoidCosmonaut

Жыл бұрын

@@Itchybol Cheap as TuSSk and Sikorski or cheaper? I bet Germany didnt pay much to TuSSk to try to act for Germany Interest

@stantymansky2916

Жыл бұрын

@@VoidCosmonaut Pomyliłeś kanały o polityce to gdzie indziej . Tu jest o zakupach dla wojska.

@jamesbartlett5640

Жыл бұрын

To replace your aging Soviet Union era aircraft, why you also got Apaches and load more equipment on order.

USA purchased the same helicopter and it’s called gray wolf

@JanKowalski-he3gh

Жыл бұрын

Gray Wolf is a similar, slightly smaller AW-139 helicopter.

Great to see Italian engineering doing well. Its so sad that Italian politics stop many from growing due to taxes and bad politics.

@valerianocuomo996

8 ай бұрын

2ND industry and 2nd export in Europe, navy,airforce at TOP.softpower

The only weapons Poland needs at the moment are nuclear submarines. Where are the subs?

@robertciesluk7207

Жыл бұрын

Under water

@SuperSokol7

Жыл бұрын

@@robertciesluk7207 lol, there are non :-(

@robertciesluk7207

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperSokol7 Don't you worry Patrick. We will have the submarines... 🥂

@SuperSokol7

Жыл бұрын

@@robertciesluk7207 When? Polands spend on military will be 30 billion per year. And Germany is increasing its military spend to 50 billion. Anybody asking why? Is Germany afraid of aggression from Poland?

@robertciesluk7207

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperSokol7 No. We are NOT afraid about their military. We want to reduce german industry potential some 30% down. Our British friends are hard working on it. Putin sold energy to germany 3x cheaper then to other klients in Europe. This time is gone. Project € is also going to the end. And germans dont want to fight. They don't want to serve in army.

get a voice

Brawo Polska 👍🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱👍 Brawo PIS 👍🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱👍

Disadvantages : 1) Large windows in the transportation section. 2) Poor armoring. 3) No ramp at the rear (long loading/unloading time. Cannot take sapper robots, unmanned platforms, and other vehicles . 4) Small side doors. Hard to install .50 BMG there . Landing craft during embarkation / disembarkation has no shooting cover. 5) All items have to be lifted including stretchers with wounded, ammunition bins, heavy team weapons such as 120 mm mortars , automatic grenade launchers, etc. 6) When it takes a landing craft it is hard to rearm it on the side mounts. Suspended armament is unlikely to help in loading and unloading. It is not very clear what is the resistance of this helicopter to modern mines attacking low-flying targets. I wonder what decided Poland to purchase these helicopters ? Legendary ,Italian workmanship, or even more legendary product maintenance (see - training aircraft, grounded all the time). Not for me to judge....

To jest zakup polityczny.Reszta to dorabianie ideologii. Krótko mówiąc przeszklona taksówka do wożenia dupska generalicji. Nigdzie nie sprawdzony w walce, słabiej uzbrojony od S70 i włoski ..... czyli kłopoty na horyzoncie jak z Masterami i wieżą do rośka. Ale poświęcony i to przez Watykan😂

@jarmos1858

Жыл бұрын

puk puk,jest coś tam pod tą twoją czaszką?

@stantymansky2916

Жыл бұрын

@@jarmos1858 A pod twoją mózgojad już zdechł 😃Następnym razem jak będziesz chciał coś napisać złap dwa głębsze oddech ,policz do dziesięciu ach no i pomyśl ,nie boli. Może wtedy choć jedno pełne zdanie uda ci się ułożyć.

@valerianocuomo996

8 ай бұрын

Ah 249 and MANGUSTA THEY ARE UNIQUE HELICOPTER FROM WAR BUILD IN EUROPE...TIGER OF THE AIRBUS...A FLOP.MANGUSTA FROM SOMALIA,KOSSOVO,IRAQ AFGHANISTAN LIBIA, IS A TRUE WARRIOR, GERMANY EXIT FROM ALLEANCE .IS A BULLSHIT THE TIGER

@valerianocuomo996

8 ай бұрын

Hou are a polsky,😅😅😅a small country, poor,10 ago food less

Ah 249 ...top of Apache