Since posting this video I’ve continued using Retouch4Me, and I’ve logged the jobs I’ve used it on, and did “ballpark” estimates of how much time it saved me, including subtracting the time I’ve spent correcting things I didn’t want removed). 252 hours saved, 70% of which is used for the assignment, 30% of which was elevating quality of delivered images despite there being no retouching expectation. That’s roughly 175 hours of billed post-processing taken off my hands. Multiplying my rate x 350 to estimate how much it generates in a year, well…it’s a LOT more than the $800 that the plugins cost. As I said in the video, I understand the cost being high for those that are not generating much income from photography. But if you’re full-time and this level of editing/retouching is a large part of your work flow, it’s a no-brainer.

*Important Update* Oleg, the developer, commented below that the Dodge & Burn and Heal plugins have both been updated since the version I used in this video (which is the same that I've used since March). They stated that the updates now utilize GPU and run much faster than original version. I got home, downloaded the updates and compared them using the same image and it made a MASSIVE difference. Dodge & Burn (High Resolution) went from 3.5 minutes to 1 minute. Dodge & Burn (HR off) went from 55 seconds to 27 seconds. Heal (High Resolution) went from 54 seconds to 6 seconds (90% less time!) Heal (HR off) went from 11 seconds to 3 seconds It's worth noting that with the update using your GPU, it should be faster for everyone, but the better your GPU the faster performance you'll see. I have an RTX 3060 Ti for reference. The previous version ran at 100% cpu utilization for 4 minutes, but after the update my cpu utilization was under 20% for the minute it took. On top of that my GPU only ran around 28%. These utilization drops make it a far better experience to use the computer on other tasks while Retouch4Me batch processes. I also want to commend the developer Oleg here. When Oleg first reached out back in the spring, there were only 3 utilities. Now there's 7, and there's been significant performance improvement on the two most important ones. It sounds like Oleg is currently trying to get another D&B update to run even faster, and will work on the Backdrop cleaning utility. This is a ton of progress in such a short period of time. Meanwhile Adobe still has the same Lightroom inadequacies as 4 years ago.

@koganinja777

2 жыл бұрын

What OS are you running these programs on??? Thanks!

congrats on your 1st child thank you for all the support Tony

congratulations and happy 1st fathers day! keep the content coming at your own pace LIVE ON PURPOSE!

You can make the action to allow you the option to tweak those parameters (the eyeball icon left of the action steps)

Welcome back! ;)

How does the skin tone plug-in work with darker complexion skin tones?

Is the AI calculation done locally on your computer or is the image sent to some external server? I don't know if "neural network" is just a buzzword or not.

Hello, After install how do i add this as a plug in on photoshop?

Congratulations to you and you lovely wife, Rob! Yes, your lives will change dramatically but it will be worth it :)

that vs luminar ?

Thank you! !

I downloaded the demo but the program just close down when running on image and nothing happens just crashes/close down the program. I have 16gb ram windows10 ×64 Amd rysen 7

good idea but for 100 or more each plugin? not for me since you still have to make adjustments to find tune results, I'll just do it in PS

welcome back mr rob

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Emmanuel!

my gpu rx 470 cant work ... open CL error.. i do the fix but it doesnt work... my other pc whit gtx 1070 works fine ... it the amd problem ??

I saw the video on another channel and this was more intensive, I'm pretty excited about this software but its to heavy on my computer I made an action and crashed my computer, while watching videos on youtube, well watching this video, I was not able to run it, this program is very expensive and they are sold separately instead of as a package, hope they work around things for the future because this is genius. Edit: I should have said I had a second screen going and that aided to crash photoshop, the program uses too much ram.

Would you give the clean backdrop filter another shot with Photoshop's "select subject" to mask out even faster?

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that is certainly a workaround, although still not something I'd confidently batch process, especially regarding the large pieces of debris.

@bfvader

2 жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto It's saving me hours of work on group photos on my white cyc wall that is impossible to keep clean. I automated an action where I use select-subject to apply a mask to the layer after it's run.

Having an issue with the plugins. I enjoy the software. I think the heal plug-in is pretty helpful. I'm having a major issue with it though. It seems to crash randomly whether you use the software or the plug-in version. I have tried many different things to troubleshoot this from deleting registry files to completely uninstalling the programs or disabling the graphics card. It seems nothing is working. At this point I don't know if it is simply a plug-in issue or something else. If anyone has had similar experiences and knows the fix I would greatly appreciate it.

If the background clean worked I would pull the trigger on this but that needs a lot of work.

do you need to buy the 3d lut creator for the plug ins to work or be able to download them? because I bought the dodge and burn plug in and never got a download a key or anything

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

No you don't. log in to your account, click the plugin you downloaded, click more info, and it shows your key. Though you should get it by email too.

Have you tried Portrait Pro? Similar in ways but it runs all filters simultaneously- much faster and more controls. On a totally separate note, is there a way to mount an umbrella to the AD300?

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I like retouch4me over portrait pro because like imagenomic portraiture, it uses color masks so adjustments are blended in, which blurs the edges, especially into dark hair / strong shadows.

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

And yes, the default stand attachment has an umbrella mount.

is this photoshop 2020 version

Do you know when they will have support for Mac? I think right now it only supports Windows.

@robhallphoto

Жыл бұрын

Everything is available for windows and mac.

As the portrait volumes is more like an intense dodge and burn, do you think you can get away without using the dodge and burn and getting nice results with the portrait volumes with a low intensity. I would be purchasing the heal to accompany portrait volumes. Thanks.

@robhallphoto

Жыл бұрын

While PV is an intense DB, it's a macro DB, whereas the Dodge and Burn action is a micro D&B. I'd much rather have an action for micro DB, as macro D&B takes very little time.

@elzycollins

Жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto thanks for you time.

Nice but at around $1000 for the total package it's a bit pricey when I still have to go in and retouch it's mistakes. And I only edit the shots I love not all of them. So having it spend the time to edit all of them and then I pick which ones to do final edits too is a lil much. I'd rather just pick the premium shots and edit them myself. Or send them out to be edited by a editor. Not saying it isn't a technology I won't use in the future. But it still has a ways to go to be polished well enough.

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you have it spend time editing all photos only to do your selection afterwards? If you’re culling either way, wouldn’t you cull first?

@mverick160

2 жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto I guess that's kinda where I was heading. So if the shots are culled first. How many are you editing to provide to a client? I can knock through 20 to finished in a half hour pretty easy. And then they're done. Don't need to be gone over again. Then the client choses if they want signature edits. If it's for a recital with 100 kids. Not sure I'd even want to chose and put up anything edited for parents to order. A lot just copy and past with the name over it and then remove it in a post program themselves. I'd rather have them order the base print and then pay to be edited up. But that's not my workflow. And that's one of the reasons why. I guess where I'm heading is the only edits I'd want are finished edits. If I still have to go back through them all anyway to catch what it doesn't catch. I'm still going over the pics with a fine tooth comb anyway. If it did everything and all I had to do was signature edits. Now that would be worth $1000. If it was around $200 to run through all of it I might be interested and it did it all in one whack. But Capture one doesn't cost this much and It's a whole lot more programing then this is. I mean seriously. Just selling the teeth whitening by itself? Who in the world would just buy a single package. Either buy it all or nothing. And as such should be priced as a package. Breaking it up was done only to drive the price WAY up. By the way. Glad you're back I was wondering what happened to you. And I agree, taking me time with the wife is a good thing. Hope everything is going great for you.

why dont i have the options of running the programs in high resolution?

@sudeepadhananjaya6653

7 ай бұрын

me also not showing high resolution check box

Can the batch mode be run in Lightroom? Or do I have to use Photoshop?

@chrisbovell9859

2 жыл бұрын

THe App can be accessed by itself if you don't have lightroom

Works not on all pictures well. The prices are also the biggest rip off over 100$ for whitening the teeth ?

I'm considering a purchase, but don't need all the apps. Which 2 or 3 apps would you recommend to start out with?

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Top 3 are Dodge and Burn Heal Portrait Volumes.

@02bimmer530i

2 жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto Awesome. Thank you.

@joseph-the-seventh

Жыл бұрын

If you deal with wrinkled clothing a lot, I think the Fabric plugin is well worth it.

Anyone experiencing problems with Healing plugin not working? I sure could use a fix right now. Thanks in advance.

I downloaded this plugin. How do you add it as a Plugin to photoshop. Right now I have it as a Standalone. Photoshop does not recognize the software

@vickyhultman2650

Жыл бұрын

I have the same question. Did you get an answer?

How many computers can you use this on at once? I edit on a couple of computers and hate having to sign out of one ro be allowed to use a piece of software on another. If that's all good though these look like winners.

@sehejjuneja9714

Жыл бұрын

3

Good

Glad I didn't waste my money on this. My personal PS actions and batch processing in PS are good enough for now lol

@mroblige1018

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same way but I do get exhausted doing it manually... Very exhausted. So I gave it a try and only bought three of them

@JEDINITE30

Жыл бұрын

@@mroblige1018 I had bought them also since I made this reply. They're actually perfect lol

@RyanHarville

Жыл бұрын

@@JEDINITE30 This before and after comment alone was enough to convince me to buy this. Thank you lol

@JEDINITE30

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanHarville lol, your welcome!

not showing high resolution check box?

@robhallphoto

7 ай бұрын

thats a thing of the past.

Has anyone who has purchased any of their products been able to get technical support? I've sent 2 emails and sent an additional message via their website requesting tech help and have not received a single reply. Been weeks since the first message was sent.

High resolution isn’t quite what you’re saying here. You use high resolution when the subject you’re wanting to correct is smaller in the frame. Full body shot (or multiple people) compared to just a face shot, for example.

@huyked

Жыл бұрын

Actually, it's opposite. It really should be named close-up (as in face close-up). That's when you use "High Resolution".

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

@@huyked where are you getting that?!

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

@@huyked I went back to the 3d lut creator tutorials (from the creator) and you are wrong about this. He says to use high resolution mode when you have a lot of people, smaller in the frame.

This is right up my alley as I shoot thousands of school kids, acne covered faces and all! I've been using Anthropic's PortraitProMax as it's batch processing is also awesome, but I'm always open to new software. Regarding the slow rendering of that last filter you showed, if Retouch4me takes advantage of the GPU to crunch the math, upgrading your RTX3060 to a 3080 card may help. Thanks for sharing!

@agorka

2 жыл бұрын

Thank Rob for the review! I have a few things to add: I noticed he used older versions (below 1.000) that used CPU only. Latest versions run on GPU and work much faster, especially on such a beasts like RTX3060! Also, for close-up portraits, heal and d&b could benefit from low-resolution mode cause in this case plug-ins can detect larger spots. I'm also going to update Dodge & Burn for a much more powerful and faster model, and I'll work more on Clean Backdrop to reduce the unwanted changes =)

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@agorka well shoot, sorry that I didn’t run the most up-to-date versions. I’ll update and report improvements. Thanks for following up and I’ll pin your comment to maximize views of these details in the meantime!

@haies09

2 жыл бұрын

@@agorka possible to add an notification when the plug-ins get updated, this way we don’t have to keep checking our accounts?

@agorka

2 жыл бұрын

@@haies09 Sure, plug-ins check for the updates themselves, I just didn't use this feature yet before I update all plug-ins to the same version.

@timk8258

2 жыл бұрын

​@@agorka I've been playing around with the demo versions on photos of a senior with bad acne. If I use high resolution mode with "Heal" it barely does anything even with sensitivity at 100. I have to use low resolution mode to make a big dent, however there are still some large, obvious pimples that it misses. I'd say it gets like 2/3 of the blemishes in low res mode and maybe 1/5 in high res. It seems like there should be a way to go even higher with the sensitivity for subjects like this. Also, I've had weird stuff happening with the interface, like the buttons on the left sometimes don't show up when I launch the filter in PS, and sometimes they don't work or I have to click my mouse more slowly (hold it down for a second before letting up) for them to register. Also the skin tone filter changed the colors of lips on the photos I tried it on, even though it's not supposed to.

Yep good idea but way too expensive for the package, just not worth it.

My stand alone program just crashes, close the program. 😔

$150 each wtf

@agorka

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I know it seems expensive when you look at all of them as a package. But I put a lot of effort into each of them, even right now in the night I'm editing images to add to Skin Tone training dataset to make it work better. I offer you to think another way: you can try one, which suits your workflow the most, it can be heal, d&b or clean backdrop. I'm sure it will save you the money you spent in a few days, usually a few hours spent on shooting instead of retouching is enough to cover the money spent on the plug-in. People tell me that they booked twice as many shootings comparing to the previous year just because they don't need to spend that much time on retouching. Sorry for the long reply =)

@Francisfphoto_

2 жыл бұрын

@@agorka Hi! I’ve been trying to test out your wonderful actions/filters, but keep getting the same error message… Was using a 2019 Intel 16” MacBook Pro and I now have a 24” M1 iMac and keep getting the same error. I've sent you an email.

@mroblige1018

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Just wait on sales and charge clients the amount for each shoot. Like if you're doing a beauty shoot charge the deposit $75 plus what the shoot costs and you'll get the money back eventually....... Heavy on the eventually lol

Seems mega expensive, each tool is +$100. Tools can be helpful, but nowhere near perfect. Crazy expensive as a suite of tools.

Luminar AI …. And the new Nero coming is amazing for most of these for £50 all in.

@mverick160

2 жыл бұрын

I know. That breakup of all options and the total all in price blew me away.

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Giving it another try, here's my first impression from new trial... imgur.com/a/V0luQU2

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

I just dove in, because I want to make sure the things I recommend hold up to competition. For whatever reason with .dng files Luminar would not work, they displayed awkwardly in all modes (as shown in the link above). I didn’t even seek to resolve this and instead made jpegs to test the options. Yes, there are options from Retouch4me that are similar in Luminar AI. Luminar’s skin defects removal is similar to Retouch4me Heal option, but has no control from what I can tell and only did a fair job (on a non freckled person). Then Luminar has the “amount” slider for general skin softening, which one might call similar to Retouch4me Dodge and Burn. However the result: Not. Even. Close. Luminar AI suffers from the same thing that has plagued automatic skin plugins forever. It’s applying reductions in clarity/contrast via what looks like color masks. So hair around the face is affected by softening slider. Clothing with warm tones affected by softening slider. Nostrils - affected by the softening slider. Teeth whitener - again brightens all the gums and parts of the lip due to a lack of quality masking. Eye brightener does whiten the eyes, but doesn’t resolve vessels (unless you just brighten the eyes to an unrealistic level) None of this to say Luminar isn’t good,m. For a one time cost of $50 it has a ton of excellent options. But it took 60 seconds to see that it’s using feathered masks that leave effects bleeding into unwanted areas, just as soft brushes and radial filters would do in Lightroom. I don’t think Luminar produces anywhere near the results of Retouch4me in comparable categories. I’ve seen Nero teased though and it’s marketed as a substantial improvement so I’ll check that out once released! I’d be curious to hear what you thought of R4M if you used a trial version and went head to head with the results you get in Luminar.

Ridiculously expensive plugins, i will prefer to do it manually

I can finally send Luminar to trash bin. Especially when they send subconscious messages to the world by calling their piece of software "Neo".

The price is a big turn off.

@artphototech

2 жыл бұрын

Great video however.

when you own the plugins, you know its bullshit to say, it works while you sleep. Because you have to click OKAY after every plugin on every picture.

@robhallphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. If you record an action with any plugin, you do not need to click anything between plugins. You can also have an action run multiple plugins in whatever sequence you like. You can also take said actions that run multiple plugins, and apply them to a series of photos via batch processing. Anyone can run any combination of the plugins in this video, in any sequence, on any number of photos, while they sleep. I do it multiple times every week. Sounds like you’ve got some phrases to research here on KZread, cheers.