Its like the casts are children of a divorced parents and being told differently in every visit to each

"Three stand-alones that hate each other" very nicely put

I think one of the biggest problems with the film was that noone seems to have actually cared about telling it's narrative. Say what you will about TLJ, but it's clear that Rian Johnson wanted to tell a story he cared about. With Rise of Skywalker I get the feeling that Abrams looked at the Star Wars Reddit and watched a few YT videos to get a quick overview of what the fans might want/hated in TLJ, and then tried to somehow string these things together into a plot. The result feels not just void of any logic, but also of any emotional connection to the viewer.

“Just Rey... “ would be the best answer !

The big question then is.. why switch directors? And why make these movies "write as you go" instead of one big, bad ass, well thought out arc?

"Rian Johnson didn't write J.J. Abrams into a corner--he gave him all the space to take the story in whatever direction Abrams wanted, and he took it backwards." I paraphrased the quote, but I think it's such a good summary of what an unimaginative letdown Rise of Skywalker was.

"Rian Johnson didn't write JJ Abrams into a corner, he gave him all the space in the world to take the story wherever he wanted. And the direction he went is backwards to try and fix what had already been done" - louder for people in the back!

But can we all agree Ray deserved better?

They should've just given JJ the entire trilogy and then given Rian his own trilogy. Not having a plan for the trilogy and changing directors between the films worked for the original trilogy, but was a big mistake here. JJ and Rian wanted to go in different directions, but in the end neither got what they wanted.

Oh you could.. just ... you know... give Finn (you know, the one who actually had the most original character arc in this whole trilogy) a proper storyline....

i just cannot believe these people got payed millions of dollars to write a STAR WARS trilogy and couldn’t even be arsed to think the entire think through before starting filming, normal people get fired for that level of incompetence

That was exactly my problem with the movie. It didn’t feel like the end of a trilogy, there was no real development or closing on the potential questions. It was disconnected and didn’t really focus on narrative itself. It wasn’t planned ahead from the beginning, and TROS was a way to say “No, my way is the right way”.

Kylo/Ben (or Adam Driver and his great performance) deserved better than a standard redemption arc that ends in death. It showed me that they didn't know what to do with the character anymore. Huge disappointment for me :/

I still have no idea what this trilogy is about

To me, the character who suffered from the complete lack of planning in this trilogy was Finn. He was as stormtrooper who broke out of his conditioning and was clearly force sensitive. There was so much history, lore, and potential with this character (e.g. understands how to break out the stormtroopers and the inside players of the resistance).

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JJ Abrams is a fraud. He has a history of doing this, setting up mystery boxes, questions that don’t drive the plot forward, let them hanging without having a plan for them, leaving them to someone to figure it out and then blame them for not living up to the expectations.

Why are so flew people pointing out the weird way the characters talk about Rey's parents in TLJ? Not once was it indicated in TFA that her parents were anything special. Nor did Rey think they were. She was just waiting for them to come back for her, whoever they were. But in TLJ they talk about them like Rey expected them to be someone special. It's like Rian Johnson injected fan expectations into Rey.

This is what I don't get: it seems like these movies were plotted out by each installment. Why wasn't the whole trilogy outlined before they started shooting ep 7? I'm so confused...

RJ and JJ are like two recently divorcee using the sequel trilogy (their metaphorical children) to badmouth each other.