Resurfacing a Super Smash Brothers Melee Disc With the Venmill Hybrid 2.0
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Recently got this machine for my store and I decided to show results. Gamecube games are always hit or miss for these machines and haven't seen much videos on the hybrid 2.0 so here you go.
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8:06 oh thank god. I had no idea what that thing was I was beginning to panic
@wumpols
4 жыл бұрын
lol
Me: Oh cool I might get it *Is 2,000 dollars* Me: K bye
@jony_j8561
6 жыл бұрын
jfj easy pro just cost $150
@echangwang1821
6 жыл бұрын
Still far outta my budget, I'm a poor boy.
@jacobturner9767
6 жыл бұрын
Jfj is better and cheaper
@Jv-mz6zk
6 жыл бұрын
+Silley Doggo im fuckin rich
@ethicalcompanies
6 жыл бұрын
JFJ is good for the price. Can't comment how well they work in the USA but being USA made and "modded" to work in Europe on the higher voltage I found they can be a bit fond of blowing fuses.
Have the same game, with the same disc scratches, with the same time when it crashes, even the same damn TV.
@trickster4555
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Twilight Zone
You saved a melee copy! hooray! :D
@Browncurse
5 жыл бұрын
I am an advocate for game preservation. Lord knows that if Nintendo remakes Melee they will do similarly to Majora's Mask 3d that they make it some hand holding toned down challenge version of the original.
@SuperLuigiGuy64
5 жыл бұрын
@@Browncurse Totally agree! I hate all this hand holding crap they do nowadays. Luckily, I grew up in the right generation 😎👍🏼miss me with that hand holding BS!
@KingE6075
Жыл бұрын
my Smash melee is scratched and crashes too and i dont have this Machine 🥲
@dhgcrack3r111
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it still works after that abuse
@dhgcrack3r111
Жыл бұрын
@@KingE6075novus fine polish looks more promising then eating your disc for breakfast
I have a badly scratched copy of Need for Speed underground for gamecube. Thanks for the help.
@ulisesrl0
6 жыл бұрын
*Tails the Green Ninja* I used to have that game! Ahh the memories
@tailsthegreenninja2003
6 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@ulisesrl0
6 жыл бұрын
*Tails the Green Ninja* Yeah! I was always bad at it, cause I didn't know how to play, which most of the time I crashed. (Because I was drifting without knowing I was)
@jacobrichardson1952
5 жыл бұрын
@@tailsthegreenninja2003 I got that game too including my memory card I kept it on the cover
@ericbazinga
5 жыл бұрын
The Hybrid is $2000, get the JFJ Easy Pro for $150 instead. Or if you just have the one disc that needs to be fixed, take it to a used video store or retro games store. They should have a disc repair machine, and you can usually have them fix it for you for a $2-3 fee.
Just found your video! Bought a mini disc adapter for my works Hybrid. Now I know which way to set the adapter in! I work at a library and so far I'd say I like the Hybrid more than the VMI 3500s we've had for 11 years..... besides the cleaning part! My hands are powder white for days afterwards! Also for the people reading- you get some disc spray and a cloth with this machine. Takes the excess goop right off!! Thanks
Thanks for choosing the game now going to play it
I have the same game with the same error as soon as I go into Meele Vs mode. I cleaned the game that’s really scratched up. With a micro fiber cloth soft side of courses with damp 70% rubing alcohol. I clean it it really hard and good without breaking it. Like 4 times and in the 4th try it works! I am playing meele with my nephew who has never played GameCube before. We gotta teach them young!
My super Smash Bros melee disc is kinda scratch and it works perfect
@frankimaserati1395
4 жыл бұрын
Jiren Fan2004 mines use to be like now shit is acting a bitch as video
Well done! I did not even know about the Venmill Hybrid. I have the JFJ Easy Pro and love it. I just got the Gamecube adapter for it and I am trying to salvage a Mario Kart Double Dash game. I got it cheap but man, it looks like someone dragged it down the middle of the street. What are people doing to these game disks? The Venmill looks to be out of my budget but it is nice to see more people working to salvage these great games.
this is why I always keep them in their cases
7:35 - I sometimes get this error message on my two copies of the GameCube version of 4x4 Evo 2 (I've had my first copy of it since 2013 when I started playing games on my Jet Black Nintendo GameCube, but after a while, it started having reading problems during the load screens for tracks, and I bought another copy of it in early 2016 as a backup in case I don't ever get around to fixing the first one, but several months ago, it also began having the same issues, so could both of them be scratched?) This is a good solution, but it is faaaar too expensive, so I'll look for something else as I've been trying to find a versatile disc cleaner that allows mini DVDs and GameCube game discs to be repaired.
@Mysticgames136
4 жыл бұрын
CEO100able Probably your system
That machine is amazing
I had my Mario power tennis disc resurfaced a few days ago and when I try to pick a character it says the disc cannot be read
It's beautiful.
Hey loved the video , saving games for the nostalgia awesome bro , was wondering if I can send you my warioworld for resurfacing
@pokeboyz7282
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll pay the shipping and for resurfacing
Hey Browncurse, I was wondering how much it would cost to get a couple gamecube games fixed.
Each time that machine polishes the disc it eats a layer of polycarbonate substrate from the protective layer above the data. This will likely be a big problem in the future as more and more people use these machines. I'd guess that 5-6 times would eat into the data layer, rendering the disc unplayable.
@andrewaustin6020
Жыл бұрын
Well hopefully they won’t let it get scratched up again
2 possibilities why that repair took so long. #1 - the disc was warped to begin with and eventually the hybrid made the warp less enough for laser to be able to read #2 - when the disc came out spinning funny 1st time, because you didn't put the disc into the adapter properly, this created an uneven surface on the disc which required much more further repair to even out.
How did it survive that much work done to it? I’ve done games that with one time the data was chewed off.
If only I could send mine to you and have some work done. Does it work on what I can only guess are internal cracks or scratches
+Browncurse Why didn't you get a Eco pro 2?
So would you recomend the Hybrid 2.0 over the JFJ? How about the resurface marks that the JFJ leaves, is it the same with the Hybrid?
@Browncurse
3 жыл бұрын
I can't recommend the hybrid 2.0 over the jfj since their use scenarios are much different. The Hybrid needs constant use because the compound can get dry within the tube used to distribute if it isn't drained before long periods of inactivity. Pretty much if you will only clean casually and periodically the JFJ will be fine, but if you need something for more constant use the Hybrid will work better. The Hybrid doesn't leave nearly as many marks btw.
I had the hybrid 1 but found it wasn't cost effective for deep scratches so sent it back. Didn't like the polish left in middle either when its advertised as discs come out ready to be put back in case. Also when I tried to use it on a disc sanded by JFJ, it didn't polish all the sanded area, left some behind, but other machines were able to polish it all away. Whatever way the pads are on it, it looks like it should polish closer to centre but it doesn't, I think because the pads go too far and sit a bit on the discs ridge.
Nice video
Where did you get this machine
Unless it's Madden then it always plays. haha Great line.
i have the dx version of melee can i still use it on my wii?
I wished I had Medal of Honor rising sun fixed, best story and good acting in the game you should try it out
how do you like the jfj easy pro?
@Browncurse
6 жыл бұрын
It worked for me. It did have some issues. 1 In a retail setting it would often overheat and make the customer wait longer. 2. PS1 games are hit or miss, As in it would leave them swirly and the disc working is 50'50. 3. Gamecube games required you manually changing the plates. This machine needs a simple external adapter. Pretty much for a simple Ebay store or collector the JFJ Easypro is a great fit. Many of the easier 1 step machines require more use or the supplies perish easier.
Does the Hybrid fix Wii U games ?
Was this a Wii console problem or was it because the scratch was to deep? Thank you for reviewing this machine don't see anyone using this machine on GameCube games.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
I300MHEADSH0T hello that wii we use to test all wii and GameCube games. something we were doing off screen to make sure is first the wii on camera then the GameCube off camera. we just used the GameCube exclusively afterwards because during the wii sensor bar was being funny. but still the disc was deeply scratched. the machine itself is cool. it auto dries the disc unlike the easypro but leaves Polish in the non data layer.
Wow, that took way too many tries for something that costs $2000.
@PokeBlox21
3 жыл бұрын
I'm also aware of this method and gonna try it on my Mario Golf toadstool tour disc
@JuanGrande386
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for an 8 month later response!Some discs are just trashed! We have this machine at work (library) and it really depends on the disc condition. Minor scratches only need like a 30 second or 1 min buff. Games with circular scratches can be buffed for numerous 2 min or more cycles and still have visible scratches.
I have a melee and a windwaker need to get them done i heard something about the local library having a resurfacer they charge like 1 dollar
Hey Browncurse, I was hoping you could share some of your wisdom. I also have VMI Hybrid, but unfortunately the line that carries the buffing solution has clogged from not being used for some time. After weeks of trial & error, I've had the best results shooting hot water through the tubes with a dental water pick, but it's not quite enough to clear it 100%. I'm thinking of shooting some seltzer water or vinegar to break up the clog, but I don't want to harm machine. Do you have any advice on clearing a clogged line? Much appreciated. Thanks again!
@Browncurse
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you should call the company quite honestly
@jddeluxe2242
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's the first thing I tried. They don't want to help, they just want your money unfortunately
@RickyRicardo135
4 жыл бұрын
I had that happen to my Eco Pro 2 machine. I managed to unclog It by inserting a very thin line of sodder wire I had for my soddering repairs, It was tough and bendable and fit easily through tube. I'm assuming u can use a very thin copper line as well and get same result.
@jddeluxe2242
4 жыл бұрын
@@RickyRicardo135 Thanks Ricky. I may give that a try. VMI is the most unhelpful company I've ever dealt with. I won't be buying there machines again. It's a shame because it does a damn good job when it's not clogged up.
@RickyRicardo135
4 жыл бұрын
@@jddeluxe2242 hopeful that works for u. Ive never used the Hybrid but i can vouxh for the Eco Pro 2. They seem pretty similar in how they work with using water and buffing solution. I however do an extra step, I also have a VMI Quicksand that i use first to presand the discs and then buff it out on the Eco Pro. Saves me extra time on removing bigger scratches.
I guess you got it used, cause that machine needs to be cleaned xD
Im having the same issues with a copy I recently got, it keeps crashing and I have no where I can take it to get repaired 😢
My copy of Melee has the same issue as this copy. is there any way i can send you my copy? and how much would it cost for you guys to resurface? thanks
@BlahBlah-zb7es
5 жыл бұрын
Three million trillion dollars pls
@Mysticgames136
4 жыл бұрын
SteamUser5643 You can do it without one because I did
Whats the name of your store?
Where do I find a machine like this?
3:15 They actually have another version of the JFJ Easy Pro with a different screw part to it.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Does anyone have a video with it?
@vintagevhstreasures4058
7 жыл бұрын
No. But here's an amazon link to it: www.amazon.com/JFJ-ProTM-Repair-Machine-Assembly/dp/B00FSZRGY0
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
That would have been useful honestly, there would still be the other JFJ problems to deal with, like the overheating and constant changing. But with the twist nut so many times it would just come off while at work.
@vintagevhstreasures4058
7 жыл бұрын
That happened to me too. But luckily I have replaced it with the push nut version.
@carrieannproffer4167
7 жыл бұрын
It still functions badly though. I used the part and never liked my JFJ
Do you offer game cleanings? I have a copy of Wario World that needs to be cleaned, do you accept PayPal if you do?
GameCube games aren't recommend to be cleaned it's shows that info in the instruction manual that comes in the GameCube box
@Dillon69
2 жыл бұрын
so we just don't fix it?
How do you feel about it after a few months?
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
The machine? I love the finish it leaves, it does work a little slow. But it helps a lot around the store.
i got my gamecube a while back and mosts of the games are scratched, which made me dissapointed as an introvert myself
Hey I have tried to look up how to fix a GameCube disk that doesn’t play but is not scratched. Can anyone help please? I really want to play my copy of Ocarina of time master quest.
Will you do like 3 of mines?
I can't be the only one who has really valuable gamecube games and they're all just messed up and scratched
If you do this too Much won't it grind down the disc layers protecting the data
@decliningship4208
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's the disc laser in the Wii getting warmed up
If only we can all afford a 1800$ manchine.
Epic
My Smash Melee GameCube disc was so broken, it was cracked and scratched up really bad, I couldn’t fix it, so I had to give up on it 😔
I Need This Thing. My True Crime Has Been Messing Up. Where Can I Find It?
@celeryburgers3910
4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Kennedy-Simmons retro game stores usually have them
Most repair machines are pretty crap and I've owned and used several, but this one is literally pretty decent. It won't fix everything to the point of "looking new" but even the really bad stuff will work again after going through this machine.
@Browncurse
6 жыл бұрын
In my experience it is a slow worker, it takes a good while to do heavy scratches, but it leaves the disc looking perfect. This machine is pretty good when the disc has light scratches and you need to only use 30-1 minute.
@ethicalcompanies
6 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, but decent results take time with any machine I guess. I've got 4 of these VMIs.
@Chrisicola
6 жыл бұрын
So my question is: will these machines- particular ly the elm echo pro 2: make a disc that has a fair amount of light to medium scratches look like new?
@ethicalcompanies
6 жыл бұрын
No idea about the machine you mention but yes a VMI Hybrid will make a disc look brand new, I should know, I've done about 200 DVDs in one today :( Obviously if it's some Disney DVD that's been used as a frisbee by the kids then no, that needs more serious measures.
@Browncurse
6 жыл бұрын
I Love DVD's yep. Aside from some polish from the center ring that gets cleaned very easily the disc looks new. This machine is great at buffing games that have medium to light scratches.
After resurfacing GC or Wii discs, Did you noticed a noise while reading your resurfaced discs? That gave me errors eventually that actually is annoying. Compare it to one of your brand-new GC disc never resurfaced between the fixed one. IMO, It could work with any platform game such as XBOX (360), PS2/PS3, and Dreamcast; but I have very bad experience after resurfacing ANY NINTENDO game discs.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
Never noticed a difference between a resurfaced game and normal with the console reading. However, from personal experience. Nintendo CDs in general tend to be way more finicky. As in it has a much finer line of when it will work and when it won't compared to PS2 or 360 for example
@JnL_SSBM
7 жыл бұрын
That made me understand that you've already heard the difference between a resurfaced game and the normal with GC reading for the first time. Right?
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard a difference while a console has played a resurfaced game. It sounds the same to me. My point was that GC/Wii discs tend to have less of a leeway when it comes to scratches compared to others on how scratched they can be. Like GC discs tend to need to have all scratches removed before it will play again, while PS2 and 360 can have some scratches and still work.
@JnL_SSBM
7 жыл бұрын
My third SSBM disc was completely resurfaced as yours, and mine get error from everywhere forever.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
It could also be the machine that was used, Some don't leave a flat surface like others and it can affect the finnickyness the discs have. Also some machines can widen the inner ring if the disc is not put in right and that can make GC's/wiis not read the disc.
Where can I find this machine at?
@Slasheryt
3 жыл бұрын
It's $1300
My discs all work but if they ever get an error I’m gonna be so nervous taking it down an getting them resurfaced :( they’re scratched but so far so good
Is there a way to buy 3rd party consumables for Hybrid 2.0 ? What about chip. Can I use machine without chip inside ?
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
There is someone currently selling the supplies in ebay for about 5 dollars less than the official website and does not have a minimum amount for free shipping. You need the chip, it keeps track of when water is low and stuff like that.
@HiFiMaan
7 жыл бұрын
OK I understood about water control, polishing Venmill mixture capacity and so on but would machine work without chip ? Thank for the info about supplies.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
I can't work without the chip
That shit doesn’t hardly look scratched at all!
@ozzymorrison8628
3 жыл бұрын
For real
i bought this game from online, some dude sold me a scratched super smash melee and it is not working. Never going to buy online again
@darkdoctor1915
4 жыл бұрын
I have gotten melee 2 years ago, and it wasn't so scratched up, and it works perfectly fine, the only time it crashes was when I play the how to play
Where are you located and could I send you my game so you can repair it? I've already went to a few games stores around me and they all say they don't mess with gamecube games because they will most likely cause more damage. The way I see it is if you have patience like you do in this video it can be done.
@jimmylopez3866
6 жыл бұрын
send it to me I got a 2,000 disc fixer hybrid
@Jv-mz6zk
6 жыл бұрын
+JIMMY LOPEZ na son you just want the disc
@2002films
6 жыл бұрын
Disc thief
I made a gamecube adapter for the JFJ out of an old disc
@ingmacl
6 жыл бұрын
TheEvilPenguinGamer can you teach me how to do a Gamecube adapter for the jfj?
how did you even manage to afford this thing LOL
@Browncurse
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta have the right tools to succeed
Yeah I think my copy of Mario Party 5 is not gonna work because lots of use and I think this video would be good for my only GameCube game
How much is this game cost without box?
I resurfaced mine and now I got an error screen. Great.
Same thing happens to me :(
My Luigi’s Mansion disc is just as bad but when I put lip palm on it, it worked.
my ssbm cd is finished lol. my lil cousins split it in half while they were fighting. but I still have super Mario sunshine.
@sillymizooker
6 жыл бұрын
koroembi what the fuck lol rip
@Gamer-gt7yp
5 жыл бұрын
Something similar happened with my old PS3 copy of Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Collection, but my sister stepped on it.
@WH250398
5 жыл бұрын
Your cousins are assholes
My Smash Bros Melee disc is missing cuz someone stole it out of game case in 2015
@domi989
6 жыл бұрын
GE4Bricksquad Mafia rip
Would the toothpaste and baking soda with a banana peel trick work?
@Browncurse
5 жыл бұрын
Lawl.
@losilluminados3729
5 жыл бұрын
@@Browncurse Would it work?
I am gonna buy a scratched like hell Paper Mario Thousand Year Door and resurface it.
How come I have Mario kart disc that came with GameCube I bought in 2005 and now it's hella scratched but works flawlessly 😂😂
@Mysticgames136
4 жыл бұрын
GameFever you probably put something on it
One of Liam‘s friends stole it from Liam and they were forcing them to give it back so we want it so we can play that game the only thing we have for it is the case
Were ur store
*CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTE-*
Really wish my simpsons hit and run worked
5:50 pretty sure your wii is not set to widescreen.
strange how they can repair blu-ray. the data starts at the first layer so....
@7531monkey
5 жыл бұрын
bjorn van de walle not the first layer just closer than cd or dvd
@jon2kx
5 жыл бұрын
Data Layers are still bonded over and protected. There are multiple data-layers, but the bottom layers are still bonded to plastic. Otherwise, the slightest scratch would render the disk unreadable. The level of storage there is at 320nm, with a 405nm laser. To put this into scale, a nanometer is one trillionth of a meter, so data storage at 320nm, for your naked eye to see, would need to be magnified greater than 2000x times.
One deep scratch on disc goes in party mode plays like 10 minutes disc cannot be read please read the gamecube instruction booklet.
What kind of store is this? I have a second hand store but I don't know if they have this machine, have an incident with a super smash melee Thanks in advance.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
Used video game store, Any resurfacing machine could have problems honestly, GC games tend to be higher risk because of extra accessories needed to make them work again. That and they seem to be much more picky than other types of discs.
@Zandalot
5 жыл бұрын
Browncurse how would I reach your store to send games
7:35 Come on not now!
Hello. Where can you buy the Venmill Hybrid 2.0? Thanks!
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
It's something like venmill.com YOu might be able to get a used one for a little cheaper on Ebay though.
@stephaniehufnagel641
7 жыл бұрын
Oh, the k you so much for responding so promptly! We like your video! Thanks again.
I had this machine its good but has too many flaws to justify the costs like all the expensive machines do.
@Browncurse
6 жыл бұрын
It does have flaws, mostly that it can be very slow. It has fixed pretty much every major GC game that came in, we had another smash that we had someone else with an azuradisc machine try and fix it and they could not make it work. So after we got this one we tried it and after like 5 mins of buffing it worked again.
@redfairmont
Жыл бұрын
What are it's flaws?
could i possibly pay you to fix a copy for me?
I have jfj easy pro too
my super smash bros melee dose not work it is fricken scratched but I'm only 14 so I cant afford that machine :-(
It might play i used to have spongebob square pants movie video game for the gamecube and it played perfectly even it have scratches but the disc was worse than yours
@Mysticgames136
3 жыл бұрын
That is bullcrap because I don't think you got to the certain part again
@princefrancois3451
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mysticgames136 if i had the game again i would show you
@hipoleto
2 жыл бұрын
there was certainly a section that didnt work but you didnt acces, i have mario party 8 disk and i cant play any single minigame bc of scratches, the rest of the game is fully playable
20 minutes repair time on the vmi hybrid....... not exactly cost effective :(
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This is hard to watch.
my disc is not working it keep saying can,t read
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
Could be many things, might need more time, might have surface damage.
@erike.rodriguez1031
7 жыл бұрын
Desmond Collie Jr. put alcohol or perfume. then put a lighter to it slowy!
@communistcapybara7727
7 жыл бұрын
goku black put toothpaste around your disc
Tooth paste
Trips me out this day in age people still use physical consoles and games i mean really wake up people.
@eriklatta3937
6 жыл бұрын
When you like playing classic games you kinda have to have the physical copy there are some old game you can but digital copy on PS3 but not all some people like playing older games like Mario and sonic or even dragonballz tenkaichi 3 that don’t have digital updates but I kinda get what your saying but a lot of people still love the classics that have no digital download and probably never will so that why people still have older system or ones that plays the games
@Jv-mz6zk
6 жыл бұрын
+Woomy 64 da reason why super smash bros is the best
+Browncurse Why didn't you get a Eco pro 2?
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
When doing research on what to get, we actually called RTI first from their website but they started saying that another company is selling their stuff in the U.S. Had no interest in playing a who is who game. Plus Venmill was willing to include their gamecube adapter for free so that made the hybrid 2.0 the winner.
@mansamusa5197
7 жыл бұрын
i have an eco pro 2 and rti are nothing but pimps. that key card make sure that you have to buy chemicals from them forever. and the prices that they charge for the chemicals and those cheap little pads are a joke. the machine works fine on discs that are already at least good but no way it would have fixed that disc that well unless you ran it ten minutes. you never basically own the machine and when you really figure the price of repair its very expensive. not only that they give you 2 sets of pads that are suppose to last 300 minutes but only last about 200 before they break down. The kits come in 800 minute packs. How can 2 sets of pads last last 800 that can barely last 400. They dont. You order more and before you know it youre spending at least 200 bucks a month on chemicals easy.
@babygravy9383
7 жыл бұрын
Cedric Robin Okay, so in your opinion what is the best choice then?
@mansamusa5197
7 жыл бұрын
Sadly i don't know. It's hard to try another machine even they all cost thousands but i couldn't recommend an eco pro 2 to anyone unless they can hack the chip. Otherwise you'll just get pimped by the company with supplies. The company barely has any video or reviews for any of their machines. The eco pro 2 is worth no more than 500 bucks if you ask me.
@Browncurse
7 жыл бұрын
The Hybrid also uses the time card thingies. After using this thing for close to 2 month, I don't like it but I kind of understand why they do it. With the hybrid it keeps track of when the water will need replacing assuming you filled it and also when the polish needs changing. As long as you use the same supplies it will keep track of your stuff. At the same time the JFJ didn't need it though. It is what it is.
ok