Restoring an old Polish bench vise. FPU vise restoration Bison
Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль
In this video I'll show you how I restored this Polish made FPU bench vise that was in need of restoration. These are very interesting vises that work using a set of ways that the rear jaw moves back and forth on. I used hammerite mid green paint.
Please consider supporting me on Patreon. www.patreon.com/user?u=58360840 You'll receive access to patron only posts as well as 3d printing files
------- Affiliate links ------
Scotch Brite Wheels amzn.to/38JmJgY
Polishing Compound amzn.to/3wHXof1
The best polishing wheels ever amzn.to/2VjG2GK
Overture 3d printer filament amzn.to/2UqwwRC
Some of my favorite hand files amzn.to/3lFzUDO
The die grinder I use amzn.to/3Aebg1c
Clear Coat - I love this stuff! amzn.to/2V71kYj
NeverDull metal polish amzn.to/3zumeiH
Liver of Sulfur amzn.to/3rIUBjz
Artillery Sidewinder X2 3d printer amzn.to/3KzJwZF
Elegoo Saturn 3d Printer amzn.to/3iGIPlw
Creality Ender 3 Pro V2 amzn.to/37sidiM
All of the links above are affiliate links. This means that, at zero cost to you, I will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase.
Пікірлер: 107
FAQ The Citristrip paint stripper wasn't very powerful and required multiple coats. Also it smelled like used urinal cakes.. Not pleasant. That's why I wouldn't recommend it. I prefer Jasco. The "Soylent Green" is Simple Green. The paint I used is Hammerite, color mid green. Its not the most durable paint but I really like the color so that's why I used it. Also I did apply two coats.
@blahorgaslisk7763
Жыл бұрын
If you would go for most durable paint what would you use then? I too like the Hammerite paint for it's looks. But sometimes I feel it's not really tough enough.
@daviddaddy
10 ай бұрын
So many people recommend "Citristrip" and I do not know why??? It really sucks!!! It does not work well at all!!! I had to redo a vise like 20 coats of it just to get a good amount of the paint off and it was extremely time consuming! I would have been better off using an angle grinder and one of those paint stripping pads or a wire wheel.
I love watching restoration videos like this. The idea of honoring something crafted during a simpler time by restoring it taps into the right spot of my brain. I could watch stuff like this for hours on end.
Just a little restoration video while I work on other projects! Have a great weekend everyone! By the way, I forgot to mention in the video that I used Hammerite paint, color mid green.
@samuelcastillo5246
Жыл бұрын
Oh God you used my favorite color 🙏🙏🙏
Love to see old vices like this restored. They are the ones that would sit on my bench in a safe spot as a decoration because I'd hate to use it and possibly damage it due to the uniqueness and age of it. More of a conversation piece!
I restored a similar vise made in eastern Germany (DDR), 150mm jaw width, 48kg ;-) Rather than re-painting, I just stripped it, then treated it with a mix of wax, oil and terpentine and polished it with a cloth once the terpentine had evaoporated. So it looks like raw cast iron, but it won't rust. That way, I can best appreciate the decades old Patina.
I admire you for not just replacing the bolts, and putting in the extra effort to keep as much hardware as you could, original. That's some attention to the detail!
That’s a nice vise, I bought one in 1974 brand new at a tool warehouse in Cleveland and still use it. It’s my “new” vise my old vise is a 4” Erie made in the 1930’s. It’s cool that you cleaned it up and painted it, all I do to mine is wipe the crud off of it. My understanding is the rear jaw moving vise was for machinist work note that since the front jaw is stationary the work piece can only extend down to the bench surface. This vise is from Soviet era Poland and it’s the type of manufacturing they excelled at so this is an incredibly well made vise. Don’t baby it now that it’s all prettied up.
This is a LEGIT restoration, expertly executed. Well done Sir!
This is so beautiful, it’s the kind of relaxing work that I like to do! Thank you for sharing this lovely moment!
Prism sliding vises are the way. Nice to see some classic Polish products on a Western channel :)
I love to see the step by step resurrection of tools or mechanisms that have been discarded by previous owners. The time you've spent on this vise will propel it well into the next century as a useful and attractive tool. Well done, sir, well done.
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Cool how the vice body moves instead of just the forward jaw.
I like the singing of your rotary tool.
Cheers from Poland ;)
Nice. Loved the soylent green reference.
@haydenc2742
Жыл бұрын
It's people :D
Poland rules!
Great video. A tool made to last is easily stripped down and refurbished. This video is a lesson to us all.
oh man...what a gorgeous restoring...I mean sure it's a vice...but it looks like art now! Keep em coming!!!!
Commenting here until Robinson Foundry collabs with us! 🫡
Loved the video even if I prefer the ones with commentary.
@hebes4056
11 ай бұрын
What paint did you use?
high quality vise
I love the color!
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
He cleaned it with people!
The video was excellent as well.
Nice to see some Restoration from my favorite meal smith!
I really love restoration videos. Enjoyed it, thanks!
That’s an interesting design. Good job!
Honest criticism, too much silence. It was a great video!
Soylent Green is definitely the best for removing old grease, but makes a great snack too 🙂
The paint choice was superb.
Looks good! Thanks.
I think you did a fantastic job!
Cool video
nice work! BTW, the manufacturer is called FUP, short for Fabryka Urządzeń Przemysłowych, which you could translate as Industrial Equipment Factory
@albindar1983
Жыл бұрын
Nie wiesz czy jest jakis polski kanał o podobnej tematyce?
@Zeebee1971
8 ай бұрын
FPiU BISON-BIAL FPiU = Fabryka Przyrządów i Uchwytów = Devices and Chucks Factory
Nice job 👍. Glad you shared it with all of us.😎👍
Looks great. I was kinda surprised nothing got sandblasted clean. That really is a unique vise format, having the jaw stay fixed.
Nicely done.
What a gripping video!!
Yes. Smth from my country 💪🏻👌😁
I just bought one of these! Bought it from a guy that restores them. Paid 450!
Beautiful work!
Really nice restauration. I’m used to using a spray for painting, but I guess your approach with just a brush is easier to implement. I shall consider it! It is quite common in Germany and Switzerland to have vices with the rear jaw moving, and quite unusual the opposite! Probably 90% of machinist vices are of the GRESSEL brand and this company is only selling such vices. They have my preference.
best thing is that those vises are still manufactured :D I have one myself :)
great video
Looks great 👍🏼
Buen trabajo. Saludos desde San Luis, Argentina
Great Job. Vice has some nice design points. Dovetail Ways with a gib and adjustment screws. Floating Leadscrew nut and the ring it rotates on is very robust were it wedge clamps on 3 points. But most important "You've gotta tell them! Soylent Green is people! We've gotta stop them somehow!"
I bought one like yours for $2.00 at a public sale. Fabricated an adjustable gibe and it looks and works great
Weird how this video should crop up. I've just finished (2 weeks ago) doing the very same thing to an old Woden (not wooden) vice that belonged to my grandfather, then my father then me. I'll tell you, that vice did a lot of work (still does) and took plenty abuse and it's still going strong. I totally agree that there's a lot of satisfaction refurbishing an item. It was amazing to see all the original casting marks once the body was stripped.
Looks great, well done.😊
Sooooo satisfactory to watch ...
Really nice work, perfect color choice for the paint, too.
you should replace or get spare parts and use rubber for the grips.
Great job! Now only if we knew someone decent at casting and foundry work who could make a replica? 😉
@camillosteuss
10 ай бұрын
I have the same vise, it could be recast... The problem is that you need a local foundry that will be willing to make 1 off castings like this, as you are unlikely to get any manufacturer to replicate this design... A great design, but one strongly on the wrong side of the cost cutting scale for the modern industry... Mine has a broken dovetail bit on the gib side, and i will need to braze a huge glob of bronze there before milling it out again to restore the geometry, but once that is done, i may just go to my local foundry as i know they do 1 offs and just bring them the ready made mould of the moving jaw body, as to have a new part cast so i can machine it to oem... I dislike any welded or brazed repairs of what was once whole... Its either whole or its broken... But yeah... It can be done, but it would be costly somewhat... I could, like this guy could, have a series of these recast at the friendly foundry, then the castings could be machined(really easy work) and we could sell those... Likely with better than oem work, as cast iron can be had better today than before, and machining is done with better tooling and accessories... But how would you price such a vise? If it aint pumped out a 100 a minute at minimum, with how much shit costs, these would not be cheap... Just the metal for it and the casting service would likely be a few hundred euros for the raw casting... Then you have secondary work of machining in another shop, which is also a few hunnit bucks... All the shit in between those two and prior and after either of those two services also would add up... Then you have shipping of such a slab(not really that heavy, but they do have around 35kg from what i remember since last lifting mine up) and all the associated bullshit with imports, regulations, cock sucking and being robbed by your own country and so on... All that shit would add up to at least 1200$ per piece, and that still leaves me or this guy who went through all the shit needed to replicate them with almost 0 earnings, just covering the costs we would have and the enforced theft that you have to pay to even own something(shipping, taxes, import tariffs and so on)... The only ones who would ``earn`` something would be the foundry owner and the body which would tax your ass and the shipping company, which leaves the one who invested the effort into it with 0 rewards for so doing... You would be better off finding a dude with such a vise, asking nicely to come over and make your own casting mould thereof, taking that mould to the foundry and having the vise cast for yourself, and then having to machine it yourself, just to avoid paying around 2k$ that this whole project would likely cost all in as a product... 2k is a kurt vise for a mill, and while i know a kurt and this are different things for different work, a kurt will pay itself off quickly in a good setup, where this is a bench vise, and those dont pay themselves off directly, but rather in comfort and benefits they allow you the user of them, while doing the work to pay them off... Sorry for the long rant, but i just felt compelled to produce it... I would like seeing such great pieces made today, but if you cant do it yourself, the most likely source will be china, and then, those vices will be metallurgicaly - likely crap... Sure, they will be machined nicely, but the metal chemistry will likely be as clean as a public toilet... ``you look at ladies' johns - you could eat maple walnut ice cream from da toilets, eh, there's exceptions, but a man's? heh, piss all over da fuckin` floor, urinals jammed with cigarettes and mothball cakes... even if you keep your shoes tied and you're not draggin your laces through urine...`` that is pretty much the summation of chinese cast iron...
When I do a restoration like this i use airplane stripper to remove paint. Jasco brand usually. Its nasty stuff but it works. Proper ppe required.
That's a great little vise and a very nice restoration job. Can you share what brand and color of paint that is, and where you got it.
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The paint is Hammerite mid green. Honestly it’s not the greatest paint. It tends to chip easily but I just really like the color.
@Bigfoot14000
Жыл бұрын
@@robinson-foundry I've seen Hammerite in European produced videos, but haven't seen it for sale in the US. That green is a great color.
@Bigfoot14000
Жыл бұрын
Well, I just found Amazon is full of Hammerite for sale. Go figure.
Nice!
Nice
Polska! Bialo czerwoni 🇵🇱 😁
1:17 happy family faces
Personally I would have thinned the hammer paint a bit and also add a second coat. Other than that, great job 👍
Soylent green is people!!!
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
Thats why it works so well!
The paint you used looks like what I Imagine the original paint looked like. I wonder if there is a hard clear coat you could use that would add some durability. also what size is the vise? I have one too that Im going to clean up a bit more, I believe its a 6" model. Oh, and for paint stripper, Easy off oven cleaner works amazing!
I'm surprised you could resist filing/reducing the machining marks on the sliding surfaces at least a bit. Since the gib is adjustable (NICE!) you could remove material without messing up the fit.
I'm impressed. This is exactly the process I've been looking for. Questions, if you find a moment: was the "soylent green" (ha!) a simple spray cleaner? And why don't you recommend the gel paint stripper, safety reasons or poor performance?
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The soylent green is just simple green. Just a little joke not very many people get. Lol I should have mentioned that. Oh well also the paint stripper was just less effective and took multiple coats. Jasco is what I’m use to using and its much better, but much more toxic.
Looks great! Hey, recently I had a new garage door installed and they said to spray the springs every so often with WD-40. That doesn't sound right to me because this would wash the grease away. I saw you using what I think is white lithium grease on your vise. Would that be a better product to use on my garage door?
Any reason why you didn't touch up the anvil square?
Slightly surprised that the jaws weren’t hardened. Did you soften them off camera before machining?
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
They were fairly hard. I used a carbide end mill to face them.
2:12 Soylent Green is people!
Hand holding nuts while grinding them is not smart and unsafe. Even a cheap pair of pliers can safely hold them and reduce your rise of personal injury. Other then that, another entertaining video.
Ciao, ottimo lavoro! Che disco è quello che usi per lucidare al minuto 06:22?
Why did you not recommend citristrip?
@robinson-foundry
Жыл бұрын
The Citristrip paint stripper wasn't very powerful and required multiple coats. Also it smelled like used urinal cakes.. Not pleasant. That's why I wouldn't recommend it. I prefer Jasco.
What was the paint that you used?
What type of paint is that?
i got one and cant finish the restoration because never found a replacement for the half moon part
Paint code for that green?
The captions are off. Any chance you could correct them? Thanks!
Nice.. how much did you pay for the vice?
After seeing Fireball tools vise, I can't appriciate any other vises..
"Is people!"
You sound so much like TKOR and it's giving me very conflicting emotions
Restore...??
GIVEING MY AGE AWAY NOW ASI REMBER THAT MOVIE FROM WAY WAY BACK LOL
This is why you just use your BEAD BLAST instead of all of this crap first. Might take a while but it's faster than this for sure. Also I just would've bought new bolts as I don't want to be wrenching on something and be relying on a 60 year old flat head to support what I'm doing!
@silverbackag9790
Ай бұрын
Bolts…for a vice made 60 years ago in Warsaw-Pact Poland. Good luck with those thread pitches and profiles.
IEEEEE!!! "Soy-lent Green is PEOPLE!!!"
@2:40 Wtf would you clearly show the product you used then say you dont recommend it. Other things you used just got a snapshot. Seeemed like it worked fine.
Weren't you tempted to make patterns while you had it apart and pour another one?
1:17 In complete shock at being released.
What a phenomenal job! I like that you resurfaced the edges of the clamping teeth and left the jaws alone and pitted. The color looked like it was super close to the original too. I've got a buddy with a vice that moves a similar fashion. I'll have to see if I can find out where they were made.