Respected Writers Who Were Actually Terrible People

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Have you ever read a book and wondered how could the author think of such a fascinating and inspiring world filled with messages of hope? They must be great human beings with lots of humanity. But writers are known to be a quirky bunch and it’s best to remember that at the end of the day, they are human just like you and me. Great writers of the past like Ernest Hemingway and J.D. Salinger were said to be enigmatic characters in real life, but also displayed shady sides to their characters. It’s why we’ve made a video of respected writers who were actually terrible people. Did one of your favorite writers make our list?
#Writers #Famous #Terrible
Hunter S. Thompson, first-class jerk | 0:00
George Orwell sold out other writers | 1:44
Ernest Hemingway, KGB spy | 2:53
J.D. Salinger, total creep | 4:14
Jack London, horrible racist | 5:29
Roald Dahl, anti-Semitic jerk | 6:49
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  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ6 жыл бұрын

    Which of these writers shocked you with their antics?

  • @TheKing60210

    @TheKing60210

    6 жыл бұрын

    Grunge I thought JD was a savior lol...

  • @erickthompson7815

    @erickthompson7815

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hemingway was a badass

  • @Gripen1974

    @Gripen1974

    6 жыл бұрын

    I got some other which should be on the list, HP Lovecraft, Rudyard Kipling, Ayan Rand, Robert A. Heinlein and Walter Scott. Scott for being antisemite Lovecraft and Kipling for being xenophobic assholes in general, Ayan Rand for being a selfish bitch and Heinlein for being an authoritarian militaristic asshole and borderline fascist.

  • @hiko73

    @hiko73

    6 жыл бұрын

    None shocked me; old, rich, famous, white, people (mostly men) behaving atrociously? Not shocked at all :)

  • @RuudJH

    @RuudJH

    6 жыл бұрын

    A lot of 'supposedly's and allegedly's and rumours and pc madness in this clip.

  • @TeatroGrotesco
    @TeatroGrotesco6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds more like Hemingway was trolling the KGB, wasting their time and giving them nothing.

  • @TheGroundedAviator

    @TheGroundedAviator

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sort of fun guy he was... probably gave useless info about them too the FBI as well!

  • @terilefevers6189

    @terilefevers6189

    6 жыл бұрын

    Teatro Grottesco I thought the same thing.

  • @kostajovanovic3711

    @kostajovanovic3711

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much

  • @6thwilbury2331

    @6thwilbury2331

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay, good... I thought I was missing something here.

  • @NaNa-bt1wd

    @NaNa-bt1wd

    6 жыл бұрын

    Teatro Grottesco doubt it

  • @jennyzarate7086
    @jennyzarate70863 жыл бұрын

    In México we actually eat grasshoppers, so it makes perfect sense that Roald would write that and there's no need to take it as something offensive.

  • @SensitiveShellCollector
    @SensitiveShellCollector6 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I don’t think hunter s thompson was living in the same reality as the rest of us.

  • @darwinxke2827

    @darwinxke2827

    Жыл бұрын

    So what’s your point?

  • @zackpumpkinhead8882

    @zackpumpkinhead8882

    5 ай бұрын

    Hey Kev.

  • @rangerripcheese3511
    @rangerripcheese35116 жыл бұрын

    “Roald Dahl, author of James and the Giant Peach, Matilda, and The BFG” forgetting something?

  • @Icebear-lu6ho
    @Icebear-lu6ho6 жыл бұрын

    Jack Nicholson being scared of another human being is weird since he plays the crazy scary one

  • @TheLobstersoup
    @TheLobstersoup6 жыл бұрын

    It can be argued that good writers have one thing in common: they hate humanity.

  • @euansmith3699

    @euansmith3699

    6 жыл бұрын

    Terry Pratchett was angry with the world, but seemed to like people.

  • @MsVorpalBlade

    @MsVorpalBlade

    6 жыл бұрын

    It seems all good writers will have their work and actions deliberately misread.

  • @MrRKWRIGHT

    @MrRKWRIGHT

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good call - Beat me to it. Was just about ready to throw that one in. Here's a pretty good explanation of what Sarte was getting at: www.the-philosophy.com/sartre-hell-is-other-people

  • @hiko73

    @hiko73

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, but hate it all not just those with different skin colors, religions, or lacking of a penis....

  • @grammaton6leric

    @grammaton6leric

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheLobstersoup That is certainly an arguable point.

  • @walkertongdee
    @walkertongdee5 жыл бұрын

    “Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.”

  • @stevenblack1903

    @stevenblack1903

    3 жыл бұрын

    Failed writer makes shitty video.

  • @meow121.5

    @meow121.5

    2 жыл бұрын

    what a roast, one of the best i've ever seen

  • @zackpumpkinhead8882

    @zackpumpkinhead8882

    5 ай бұрын

    Doug Walker?

  • @walkertongdee

    @walkertongdee

    5 ай бұрын

    @@zackpumpkinhead8882 Nope, Sean Walker.

  • @maxmilburn4046
    @maxmilburn40466 жыл бұрын

    Can’t write jokes - reference rick and morty

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns5 жыл бұрын

    It’s a good thing I never actually treat an artist’s work as being them literally. I don’t idolize an artist because of their work. I prefer to like the works, not the person. Example, I prefer to like pieces of music, not idolize the people making it.

  • @evanrayswenson

    @evanrayswenson

    Жыл бұрын

    Good trait

  • @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    6 ай бұрын

    That's the way to do it!

  • @bipinsamsohang
    @bipinsamsohang6 жыл бұрын

    I hate that I clicked this

  • @ArcAngle111

    @ArcAngle111

    6 жыл бұрын

    bipin samsohang why?

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sad propaganda about some great writers! Sad!

  • @keyboardcorrector2340

    @keyboardcorrector2340

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hate that I finished it.

  • @kathifidalgo0

    @kathifidalgo0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@taramahoney3368 awww can't handle the truth

  • @zd4v1d

    @zd4v1d

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kathifidalgo0 Aw, can't tolerate history without revising it.

  • @j.9889
    @j.98896 жыл бұрын

    Lmao, I don't think Hunter S. Thompson ever claimed to be a good guy.

  • @CurtisAlfeld

    @CurtisAlfeld

    5 жыл бұрын

    He truly was the best example of a human.

  • @jerryrichardson2799

    @jerryrichardson2799

    4 жыл бұрын

    True.

  • @DingDongfootballl

    @DingDongfootballl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Such a brilliant mind.

  • @8House
    @8House6 жыл бұрын

    OK. Orwell is a bad guy for outing Soviets and Hemingway is another bad guy for working for them. This is a $hit video.

  • @kakstin

    @kakstin

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's about betrayal. Orwell of his friends and Hemingway of his country.

  • @hiko73

    @hiko73

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've heard that about your mothers pron vid's ;)

  • @muxperience

    @muxperience

    6 жыл бұрын

    the Information Research Department wasn't like the McCarthy-driven purges in the U.S. It was an anti-propaganda and infiltration outfit, and Orwell's work didn't betray other writers so much as exclude communists from an anti-soviet organization So unlike what Kazan did in the red scare, Orwell's actions were far more limited in scope and in effect. he didn't land people in jail

  • @SBCBears

    @SBCBears

    6 жыл бұрын

    The "McCarthy-driven purges" weren't McCarthy-driven. He grabbed attention like cheap entertainers grab it today. The HUAC was doing serious work because the Soviets were doing serious work in Hollywood. Just as Russia did on facebook, etc. Elia Kazan had first-hand knowledge of what was happening in Hollywood. This was verified by the Venona papers that come out after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure that is correct! I agree with the last part though!

  • @mmmoroi
    @mmmoroi5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder when they will start accusing Willaim Shakespear and Charles Dickens for The Merchant of Venice and Christmas Carol, respectively?

  • @Anna-xh6fk

    @Anna-xh6fk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dicken’s Jewish acquaintances were like wtf with the depiction of Fagin in Oliver and he was called out in his own time (he gave a pretty typical, celebrity, half-assed apology, but did improve his depictions in later works). Racism has always been bad and people have always been anti-racist (wether or not their voices are those that are listened to now, as you clearly think everybody was somehow on board back then). People have talked about Merchant of Venice since it came out as well but guess what? When it came out there were literally no Jewish people in England cause they were FORCIBLY REMOVED SINCE THE 13TH CENTURY. Like bruh what’s ur lame ass point?

  • @mmmoroi

    @mmmoroi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Anna-xh6fk  "When it came out there were literally no Jewish people in England" which was why Shakespear had to stage this drama in the 16th century Venice, IMHO.

  • @gtr.453
    @gtr.453 Жыл бұрын

    Jack London, was not racist. Many of London's short stories are noted for their empathetic portrayal of Mexican, Asian, and Hawaiian characters. In her Russo-Japanese War correspondence, as well as her unfinished novel "Cherry", she shows great admiration for Japanese customs and capabilities.

  • @ramblingnutcase

    @ramblingnutcase

    Жыл бұрын

    "I am first of all a white man, and only then a socialist." -Jack London

  • @pikachus5m166

    @pikachus5m166

    11 ай бұрын

    Unparalleled Invasion inspired Japans Unit 731, and later the US biowarfare offensives in Korea. And should it transpire SarsCov2 is American in origin, then the greatest warcrime in history.

  • @lvgenivs2319

    @lvgenivs2319

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ramblingnutcase Extremely based, I agree

  • @joanlynch5271

    @joanlynch5271

    2 ай бұрын

    John's nanny and probably more of a mother than his real mother was a black woman.

  • @cottonrabbit1685

    @cottonrabbit1685

    2 ай бұрын

    Except when it's black😊

  • @grimtheghastly8878
    @grimtheghastly88786 жыл бұрын

    I think it is very important to distinguish the artist from their art. For example, H.P. Lovecraft was apparently a racist, homophobic xenophobe (and unlike a certain subset of people I am using those terms in their *ORIGINAL* definition) but Call of Cthulhu is still one of my personal favorite books to read every Halloween despite the fact that as a black bisexual woman he probably would not have liked me very much. Just because an artist harbors an opinion you personally disagree with or has done something questionable does not mean their work is automatically shit.

  • @dzyanist

    @dzyanist

    5 жыл бұрын

    Grim the Ghastly..: VERY well said !!!

  • @dukadarodear2176

    @dukadarodear2176

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you. One of my favourite authors is Eric Blair /G Orwell. Yet he hated the first and closest nation to Britain that suffered genocide, theft of land and starvation at its hands - my country Ireland. Strange that he would have sympathy for the down-trodden everywhere else. Perhaps his family were old English Colonists who made their fortune robbing Ireland. But he's still one of my favourite writers.

  • @pagethreemodel

    @pagethreemodel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you think that a white person would read the works of a black writer who was notoriously and openly prejudice towards whites and died without any regret as to feeling the way they did about whites? In fact I doubt it. But do you boo.

  • @duncangriffiths4399

    @duncangriffiths4399

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Similar story with Robert E Howard.

  • @doublehsword6508

    @doublehsword6508

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @oodlesandoddles806
    @oodlesandoddles8063 жыл бұрын

    Actually Dahl has been proven strict and many angry problems after the war and I look at ever interview of Dahl and he was not at all racist he got annoyed in the interview you allowed though cause the reporter kept interrupting him Edit: all the stuff he said was written by just random people

  • @ombrenightcores4153
    @ombrenightcores41533 жыл бұрын

    I’m not surprised about Salinger. Catcher In The Rye has a ton of predatory undertones, from both perspectives. Clearly it was on his mind.

  • @tammeraespinal8675
    @tammeraespinal86756 жыл бұрын

    I think you should add Harlan Ellison to this list. I met him one time and he walked into a room full of people and insulted my appearance forr no reason at all.

  • @thedeepfriar745
    @thedeepfriar7456 жыл бұрын

    With great artistic talent also comes a lot of demons and mental instability, we can commend them for their works and also accept for the completely complicated and flawed individuals that they are. We can praise their work while condemning their behavior.

  • @randyowens3419
    @randyowens34194 жыл бұрын

    "The arrogance of the present", is what I call it, judging the past with current social mores is completely idiotic. Wait 50 years and see what they think of you then.

  • @stuartbritton7408

    @stuartbritton7408

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Today's generation is scum. We'd be better off without them. If there's anything good about them, it's fake. Listen to David Icke.

  • @shomershabbos6291

    @shomershabbos6291

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's far more awareness today, but being racist, violent, a complete asshole or being a pedo was never okay, it's also very easy to justify it by saying it was the past and things were different, without actually thinking about it more deeply and realizing that those things weren't okay back than, and they weren't as common as you'd want to believe

  • @dylansharp3086

    @dylansharp3086

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartbritton7408 shut up

  • @stuartbritton7408

    @stuartbritton7408

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dylansharp3086 ?

  • @iranianintelligenceagency9337

    @iranianintelligenceagency9337

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shomershabbos6291 being racist had been okay for much longer than it hasn't buddy. I don't know where you got that from. Otherwise, I agree

  • @apanapandottir205
    @apanapandottir2056 жыл бұрын

    Orwell is a goddamn hero.

  • @TheFreemanAlways

    @TheFreemanAlways

    6 жыл бұрын

    all these people forgetting that he is still was anti-capitalist( not like its a bad thing)

  • @drumyogi9281

    @drumyogi9281

    6 жыл бұрын

    ForTheWatching i think you didn't read much of his work. He was a Socialist but changed his toon and wrote extensively about it. That was kind of the point with Orwell... while intellectuals in the west were still believing in Soviet lies Orwell wrote about the tragedies. That is like saying Yuri Bezminov was a Socialist. 'Was' is vague in it was a past but the change is the important part and why they changed.

  • @davidsprenkle2641

    @davidsprenkle2641

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jason Bay. I've read almost everything Orwell wrote. He was from a working class background and was both anti-fascist and anti-authoritarian (hence anti-Soviet). He was always a pro-working man European-style socialist, but he was also certainly anti-Soviet and anti-propaganda of all sorts. He was certainly not some sort of libertarian, as some people seem to assume.

  • @hannahdyson5603

    @hannahdyson5603

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am from Wigan and he was generally seen as a red herring who did feck all in reality . He was in fact a snob who thought he new what people needed better than the people themselves

  • @danscott7

    @danscott7

    6 жыл бұрын

    Orwell is a goddamn hypocrite. He preached against people not being allowed freedom of thought and expression in his novels, then he did his damnedest to get people who punished for expressing their beliefs in real life. You're missing the bigger picture.

  • @SuperEvilduck
    @SuperEvilduck6 жыл бұрын

    >having a political viewpoint that differs from mine makes you a monster.

  • @MichaelDavis-cy4ok
    @MichaelDavis-cy4ok6 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, the example from White Fang isn't racist. It's recognition of how horribly the native tribes in Alaska lived under White rule. It's exactly how things would have looked to an outside observer at the time. London might have been a racist, but this example is complete misinterpretation.

  • @almishti

    @almishti

    5 жыл бұрын

    The essay he wrote when Jack Johnson, I think his name was, a black man, became World heavyweight boxing champion, would've been a much better example. He called for a white man to step up and defend the 'honor' and 'superiority' of the white race by beating the shit out of Jack Johnson, who was called all manner of terrible things.

  • @valerieneal2747

    @valerieneal2747

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@almishti Thanks so much for dropping facts. The knowledge that Jack Johnson beat the tar out of a white boxer incensed London.

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whitesplain harder Cletus

  • @desherman9526
    @desherman95266 жыл бұрын

    Orwell calling out commies does not make him bad in my book.

  • @fauxmanchu8094

    @fauxmanchu8094

    6 жыл бұрын

    DE Sherman Orwell was not against socialism but like many other on the left at that time despised the Soviet Union under Stalin and the reign of terror.

  • @mizofan

    @mizofan

    6 жыл бұрын

    he also called out the faults of capitalism, many of which can be seen in 1984 and in today's reality (in Animal Farm too)

  • @TheFreemanAlways

    @TheFreemanAlways

    6 жыл бұрын

    NORWAY IS NOT SOCIALIST, GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS ARE NOT SOCIALIST, BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT SOCIALIST. socialism's goal is a non-capitalist govenment-less society, or in other words, communism.

  • @Pfisiar22

    @Pfisiar22

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but participating in a government sponsered black list and contributing to the red scare does not make him look good either.

  • @AIWARAS619

    @AIWARAS619

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pfisiar22 It is not a "scare" when you are talking about one of the greatest evils in human history that stands on the same level as Nazis and colonization of Americas.

  • @blacksmithorange8906
    @blacksmithorange89065 жыл бұрын

    Surprised Lovecraft (although I do admire his work) didn’t make this list.

  • @theghostofchristmaspast293
    @theghostofchristmaspast2936 жыл бұрын

    This is just making my Life more Depressing.

  • @brianarbenz7206
    @brianarbenz72065 жыл бұрын

    I live in the neighborhood where Hunter S. Thompson grew up, and people here sometimes get chills down their spine when you speak his name. Though some tales of his teen misdeeds are false, there is no question he was violent and abusive.

  • @Ian-yf7uf

    @Ian-yf7uf

    Жыл бұрын

    Good art comes from troubled people.

  • @thebasedgodmax1163

    @thebasedgodmax1163

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ian-yf7uf that's nonsense

  • @Ian-yf7uf

    @Ian-yf7uf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thebasedgodmax1163 not at all. You'd be hard pressed to find a good literary figure who didn't have demons in their life.

  • @darwinxke2827

    @darwinxke2827

    Жыл бұрын

    YOUD BE “HARD PRESSED” to find anyone that didn’t have demons in their life!

  • @brianarbenz7206

    @brianarbenz7206

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ian-yf7uf Did Steven King or Ernest Hemingway ever rob a store at gunpoint? Hunter Thompson said he did as a teenager. He also said he broke into several businesses at night to steal cash. He was never caught, but he insisted he did all these things. There are troubled people, and people who cause troubles for others because of the lack of empathy. Don't confuse pointing a gun at a person and putting them within seconds of the end of their life with being quirky or colorful.

  • @patchfile
    @patchfile6 жыл бұрын

    Was really expecting to see Lovecraft in this video.

  • @re1010
    @re10106 жыл бұрын

    Hemingway is a terrible person because he was a low level spy for the KGB? Just because you join a horrible group doesn't mean you're a horrible person. Want proof: the actor who played Goldfinger, he was a party member but protected some Jewish people, Schienlier anyone, and Reinhard Heinrich's brother made false passports to help those considered "inferior" to escape. All these men join a horrible organization but had no intent to do harm. As I said, Ernest was low level, probably because he didn't want to kill anyone.

  • @TheAuntieBa
    @TheAuntieBa5 жыл бұрын

    Roald Dahl (aka Saki) was married to actress Patricia Neal when she had her devastating stroke. In ‘support’ of her, he bullied her terribly about her physical therapy. She credited. him with amazing recovery - and divorced him.

  • @valerieneal2747

    @valerieneal2747

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely true. He was so horrid to her.

  • @Pantano63

    @Pantano63

    11 ай бұрын

    Saki was H. H. Munro, not Roald Dahl.

  • @janetaldrich7747

    @janetaldrich7747

    3 ай бұрын

    Dahl wasn't Saki. Saki was H. H. Munro.

  • @jrabele
    @jrabele5 жыл бұрын

    I think you're a bit hard on Jack London. If he was racist it was not central to his work. He had a very ruff childhood and died at the age of 40 and he also abused women. What most people hold against him is that he was a revolutionary socialist. I think he is underrated as a writer and have always found his work informative and rewarding.

  • @jamesrogers5277

    @jamesrogers5277

    4 ай бұрын

    You mean he had a very “RUFF!” childhood…

  • @douglasskinner
    @douglasskinner6 жыл бұрын

    Millennial history especially with regard to Orwell.

  • @knelle1114
    @knelle11146 жыл бұрын

    William S Burroughs was living in Lawrence, KS when my mom was going to school there. She met him a two different occasions, she said he was a really mean guy. He was terrible to the staff at the restaurant she worked at and was terrible to the people at the hospital she was working at.

  • @knelle1114

    @knelle1114

    6 жыл бұрын

    How is a nurse common trash? Burroughs was a mediocre writer, a trust fund brat, and a murderer. Not someone to be proud of.

  • @kephahor4251

    @kephahor4251

    6 жыл бұрын

    And he shot Joan vollmer, his girlfriend, in a "william Tell " act in a Mexican bar--and actually got away with it.

  • @dickgreen5914

    @dickgreen5914

    6 жыл бұрын

    Opioids can make people really bitchy when theyre high and especially when theyre sober. Needless to say he did lot's of opioids

  • @robertlawson682

    @robertlawson682

    6 жыл бұрын

    She was his wife and he shot her in their living room.

  • @lizatanzawa7910

    @lizatanzawa7910

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds just like him. And he wrote "Down and Out in Paris and London", where he bemoaned the treatment of waiters and kitchen help. Hypocrite.

  • @beeroftherat1
    @beeroftherat16 жыл бұрын

    I'm always wary of these kinds of videos, because they're highly sensational and don't paint a very full picture. I strongly recommend taking this with a grain of salt.

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    I strongly recommend you stop being a biased white fragility racist

  • @beeroftherat1

    @beeroftherat1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rachkate76 Critical thinking and reservation of judgment now equals racism, apparently. How disconcerting.

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@beeroftherat1 imagine having to play word salad bs to desperately try to pretend that bigotry and fReE sPeEcH are the same thing. You same wankstains play persecution oLyMpIcS when anything is said about inbred mayo supremacy. 🤔

  • @beeroftherat1

    @beeroftherat1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rachkate76 Have a Snickers.

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@beeroftherat1 I said what I said Cletus. Read it again and cry.

  • @janosk8392
    @janosk83926 жыл бұрын

    Your representations of London & Dhal are silly & likely out of context, and heresay to boot for most of them.

  • @mery5989

    @mery5989

    3 жыл бұрын

    right? everything else was so inaccurate, there's no way dahl actually said that! the things that came before where fine, I mean he's an author can you really blame him for fighting with publishers, but if he'd said that sentence the was the bad thing why didn't we see video of that? I would bet it isn't true

  • @markukrainetz5058
    @markukrainetz50585 жыл бұрын

    I've never read White Fang, and I had no idea it was written from the dog's POV. I'll have to pick that up. Thanks Grunge.

  • @valerieneal2747

    @valerieneal2747

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make sure you read London's essay "Salt of The Earth". It will open your eyes. He was a racist

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of racism in Call of the Wild too. Glad it was remade with less racism last year- no wonder the white supremacists went batshit crazy and hated it.

  • @mickeyfinn8956

    @mickeyfinn8956

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a great read, a classic.

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy6 жыл бұрын

    In the case of George Orwell, I think what he did was more out of his experience with the Communist Party. He himself was never a Communist and seemed to dislike the direction where they were going. He was definitely anti-fascist but also against totalitarianism in general and his experiences while he was fighting in Spain with the anarchist POUM defined his experiences and in the war which he wrote about in his book Homage to Catalonia and at one point he and his people were accused by the Soviets (who dominated the Republican side of the war) of being Trotsky followers and they found themselves hunted by the police. With all that in mind he definitely did not trust anyone who was Communist and he might have suspected them of being agents for the Soviet Union, which is not entirely unfounded since many considered that Moscow controlled the Communist Party outside of the Soviet Union. Personally I think he had a different view that most people had and his becoming an informer was more due to his experiences rather than the desire to betray for his own safety. Reading any of his famous books like Animal Farm will more or less answer the reasons for his anti-Communist feelings which actually were different than someone from a Right wing perspective. I suppose you might say he betrayed the ones he thought were betrayers.

  • @jessmith390

    @jessmith390

    6 жыл бұрын

    schizoidboy Right-wing perspective No.Got that wrong.

  • @denisenova7494

    @denisenova7494

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. I see nothing wrong about Orwell's actions and I think he's genius.

  • @babyeater639

    @babyeater639

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jessmith390 what?

  • @1996koke
    @1996koke6 жыл бұрын

    Some of these seemed exaggerated, for example I found funny the part of the grasshopper, as a Mexican I admit, some of us eat grasshoppers and we don't feel offended if someone says that

  • @loki2240

    @loki2240

    6 жыл бұрын

    jorge .espinosa de los monteros - It's also a matter of whether malice is intended. I have African American heritage and I like fried chicken and watermelon. But that's also been used as a malicious stereotype against African Americans - even though Americans in general like fried chicken and watermelon. And actually, I hardly ever eat fried chicken because it's unhealthy. But it still tastes good, when properly prepared.

  • @maxvilla5558

    @maxvilla5558

    6 жыл бұрын

    jorge .espinosa de los monteros Coco

  • @tahitislim25
    @tahitislim256 жыл бұрын

    Roald Dahl was Norwegian. His name was actually pronounced "roo-al"

  • @kephahor4251

    @kephahor4251

    6 жыл бұрын

    He was a Brit of Norwegian parentage. Min Mor, Gud Hvile henne, ver en Norske Jente.

  • @tahitislim25

    @tahitislim25

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kepha Hor Takk for din gode kommentar. Jubel! 😊

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz13293 жыл бұрын

    I live in Hunter S. Thompson’s hometown, just a couple if blocks from his childhood home, in fact. People here shudder when they hear his name. He robbed a store at gunpoint and burglarized others (he admitted all this) and was accused of beating up a child in a park. He was never a decent or accountable person.

  • @extantia
    @extantia6 жыл бұрын

    Orwell referenced Yevgeny Zamyatin's "We" in the writing of "1984", though not as heavily as Ayn Rand did with "Anthem." With that said, I did enjoy his nonfiction works "Such, Such Were the Joys" ,"The Road to Wigan Pier" and "Down and Out in Paris and London."

  • @brianknight5043
    @brianknight50436 жыл бұрын

    Some of these examples are a little overstated for example if someone like orwell is against a particular ideology why does pointing out people who may hold that ideology make you a jerk?

  • @Kikyolover9
    @Kikyolover93 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised dr. Seuss isn't on the list

  • @extantia
    @extantia6 жыл бұрын

    Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye", what little I read of it, seemed like a mediocre version of Dostoevkiy's "Notes from Underground" which preceded it by about 87 years. So no love lost there...

  • @charlesnwarren

    @charlesnwarren

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not a bad read. What was strange was how he became such a recluse after he'd won fame for it. There was a guy who'd made friends with him, and who'd spoke to him about "Catcher," when no one else could. I think it appeared in "Playboy."

  • @tealsoda
    @tealsoda3 жыл бұрын

    Goddamn, I bet Jack Nicholson could tell some amazing stories about so many people. Too bad he hasn't written an autobiography or something

  • @mr.smokey2130
    @mr.smokey21304 жыл бұрын

    As a retired teacher it horrifies me to learn Roald Dahl was such a creep!

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    So was Jack London the proud racist

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama51866 жыл бұрын

    Oooooooooo! What buggers! Fascinating & great narratives! Bravo!

  • @tre243t
    @tre243t6 жыл бұрын

    this is total bollocks!

  • @theflaggedyoutuberii4311

    @theflaggedyoutuberii4311

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why

  • @francescahuawei4194
    @francescahuawei41946 жыл бұрын

    what's wrong with openly speaking about your hate for autocratic states?

  • @fauxmanchu8094

    @fauxmanchu8094

    6 жыл бұрын

    Francesca huawei I would define the U.S. as an autocratic state.

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good Point!

  • @marissabones
    @marissabones4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video 🙃

  • @jpgabriele9596
    @jpgabriele95962 жыл бұрын

    Oh my ! this is soooooo interesting!

  • @francescahuawei4194
    @francescahuawei41946 жыл бұрын

    Hemingway was a "typical man" of his time when it came to his treatment of women and tastes, he hated the American state, he practically lived in Cuba, some of his books were awful and it's not a secrete he was an alcoholic or drank too much. I'm sorry to say that Salinger's behaviour with girls was not that different in comparison to some of his peers, to some pockets of his society, not just men, 14 yo girls were considered "fair game" in dating

  • @fauxmanchu8094

    @fauxmanchu8094

    6 жыл бұрын

    Francesca huawei Hemingway suffered from severe depression.

  • @tessie7e

    @tessie7e

    6 жыл бұрын

    All you have to do is read these men’s works and know they were twisted. Catcher made me uncomfortable when I read it as a 14 year old girl for school- I could tell Salinger hadn’t grown up and it creeped me out.

  • @pepefrogic3034
    @pepefrogic30342 жыл бұрын

    This is sheer biased nonsense. Not convincing at all...

  • @mortalhellion
    @mortalhellion6 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the interlude with the Dalek. Should have sent a Dalek to some of these authors for a visit.

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    NO!!!! PLEASE NO! They Murder my Musical ear! I am surprised my ears aren't bleeding!

  • @johngarbarini8474
    @johngarbarini84745 жыл бұрын

    Hunter S Thompson staged human hunting parties on his farm. He made snuff films of these hunts, and sold them for big money. What a creep, and he got away with this.

  • @josephconder9074
    @josephconder90746 жыл бұрын

    I have no problem with what Eric Blair (George Orwell) did.

  • @gryphonofmight
    @gryphonofmight6 жыл бұрын

    What orwell did doesn't sound terrible at all.

  • @TheLobstersoup

    @TheLobstersoup

    6 жыл бұрын

    He ruined writers lifes and carreers based on nothing but his own high and mighty "feelings" about their political orientation; completely arbitrary. And even if they were communists, they were living in a democracy, which is the form of state that actually thrives from different opinions and a broad political spectrum. The only bad democracy is one that tries to force its subjects and other countries into submission; because that is known as fashism.

  • @gryphonofmight

    @gryphonofmight

    6 жыл бұрын

    its spelled Fascism dear

  • @redpiper9836

    @redpiper9836

    6 жыл бұрын

    gryphonofmight Right sentences, dear

  • @brucetucker4847

    @brucetucker4847

    6 жыл бұрын

    If he had done the exact same thing to people with Nazi sympathies he'd be regarded as a hero for it.

  • @loki2240

    @loki2240

    6 жыл бұрын

    gryphonofmight - Your post should've been written as "It's spelled "fascism," dear." And it was lame to even make such a response, as it was clear from the video what was wrong with Orwell's behavior, and the other poster explained it to you in a little more detail. You had poor comprehension of the issue, and then you decided to nitpick someone's spelling after they took the time to explain it to you - and you corrected them incorrectly.

  • @leanacarter428
    @leanacarter4285 жыл бұрын

    Just BECAUSE some PEOPLE are very talented that DOESN'T mean they are Nice ,RESPECTFUL PEOPLE.

  • @bananafanafoferry6970
    @bananafanafoferry69705 жыл бұрын

    “I’d rather be fried alive and eaten by Mexicans” is actually in reference to something people in Mexico actually do. They eat fried grasshoppers and crickets. How is that even a racist thing for the grasshopper to say?

  • @Phobero
    @Phobero6 жыл бұрын

    So Orwell was also a hero? Good to know!

  • @connorhayes4923
    @connorhayes49236 жыл бұрын

    It’s quite fitting that Salinger was bad person, since his most popular book was pretty bad too.

  • @crs290

    @crs290

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hated Catcher, and the people I knew who loved it...unpleasant (to say the least.)

  • @bridgieoh9326

    @bridgieoh9326

    5 жыл бұрын

    I never understood why people liked Catcher. I hated it. Caufield was a whiny b*tch.

  • @joeyjohnson4826
    @joeyjohnson48263 жыл бұрын

    Dahl said no such thing, but he right pissed you off, still is... 🤣

  • @gibsongirldaydream
    @gibsongirldaydream6 жыл бұрын

    They didn't mention that Hemingway's daughters said that they were molested by him. It lead to one of his daughters committing suicide later in life.

  • @MirrorevO

    @MirrorevO

    Жыл бұрын

    hemingway didn't have daughters, this story is about his son jack who did that, don't make accusations when you don't know your shit

  • @alistairbain6149
    @alistairbain61494 жыл бұрын

    Hunter S. Thompson is great only in the eyes of his fan club 🙄

  • @anthonyfox585
    @anthonyfox5856 жыл бұрын

    okay so the ompa lompas were pygmies that in and of itself isn't racist, I'm​ not saying rald dahl was or wasn't racist

  • @healinggrounds19

    @healinggrounds19

    6 жыл бұрын

    Anton Fuchs black pygmies. Seriously dude? That isn't racist? GTFO.

  • @eduhub8508
    @eduhub85083 жыл бұрын

    Amazing bro...

  • @MsVorpalBlade
    @MsVorpalBlade6 жыл бұрын

    Wait on: Orwell worked for the Ministry of Propaganda BEFORE he wrote Nineteen Eighty-Four. So he would have based it on his experiences there. And in Nineteen Eighty-Four (spoiler alert) Winston breaks down and betrays his comrade. If anything, the book is a mea culpa for what he did during the war.

  • @ursamagick6110

    @ursamagick6110

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jaq Tweedie. Nobody likes a rat.🐭

  • @MsVorpalBlade

    @MsVorpalBlade

    6 жыл бұрын

    ursa magick I can't be doing with rodents. I would have folded too.

  • @ursamagick6110

    @ursamagick6110

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jaq Tweedie, I would have folded at 🕸🕷

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    Possibly, but you cannot be sure! I don't know about that theory! It is interesting though!

  • @richardroberson2564
    @richardroberson25646 жыл бұрын

    1984 and animal farm are actually some of the most entertaining books ive ever read. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good read.

  • @lucielouise2008
    @lucielouise20085 жыл бұрын

    Dr Seuss cheated on his wife while she was suffering from cancer for 13 years. She ended up committing suicide, then he married his mistress.

  • @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    6 ай бұрын

    And she was a married woman and a friend of them both. She had 2 daughters from a previous marriage and after marrying Ted (Dr Seuss ) sent them to a boarding school. They were 9 and 14. She said that they would not have liked him, and he would not have liked them, as he was uneasy around children.

  • @ercaner_buzbey
    @ercaner_buzbey5 жыл бұрын

    Well you should have added Jean Jack Rousseau and his hypocrisy about raising children in Emile when he just sent his children into an orphanage

  • @khalidhenry3857
    @khalidhenry38576 жыл бұрын

    Eric Cartman would have LOVED Roald Dahl

  • @pineapplepenumbra

    @pineapplepenumbra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ah *hate* Hippies!!!

  • @rokyericksonroks

    @rokyericksonroks

    6 жыл бұрын

    Grunge channel is not really that cool. A couple of vids are okay though.

  • @fozzieatdetourbillnye5514

    @fozzieatdetourbillnye5514

    6 жыл бұрын

    Khalid Henry I cant approve of what Dahl said but I don't really think he's a monster. I think he's a man who was viewing the world the way you were told to in a different time. Its basically the idea of people today calling gay wrong and using the bible as an excuse. You're taught someone is wrong so you're convinced. (I in no way am against gay marriage just so you know) Anyway the video clearly states his wife told him to be careful what you say.

  • @pineapplepenumbra

    @pineapplepenumbra

    6 жыл бұрын

    FozzieatDetour BillNye Although I thumbed you up, I have to say that following what society around you says isn't a valid excuse. For example, my girlfriend's mum grew up surrounded by people who though foxhunting was ok, and some of the vermin even engaged in the cruel, cowardly, perverted pursuit, but she still thought for herself and realised that it was wrong. All throughout history, there have been individuals who have thought processes not only far ahead of their own times, but also, in many cases, more advanced than many people nowadays. I know that most people give in to the pressure to conform, but people like Roald Dahl are, or should be, independent thinkers, strong enough to see through the bullshit of the day. Also the very fact that you put that his wife warned him to be careful shows that his views weren't accepted during his (later?) life.

  • @charlesnwarren

    @charlesnwarren

    6 жыл бұрын

    I liked him.

  • @kelligray1848
    @kelligray18486 жыл бұрын

    Ronald Dahl was actually named after my great grandma's uncle Roald Amundsen the famous explorer. Uncle Roald was NOT an asshole though, he was an adventurous, loving man. He passed down many traits on my Dads side.

  • @ggallintedtalk

    @ggallintedtalk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bullshit.. he was horrible

  • @rachkate76

    @rachkate76

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @williamlarkin613
    @williamlarkin6136 жыл бұрын

    Geroge Orwell is not his real name, it's Eric Blair

  • @veronicalloyd7902
    @veronicalloyd79026 жыл бұрын

    Who shocked me the most? All of them.. How can geniuses be so ignorant?

  • @lyokianhitchhiker
    @lyokianhitchhiker6 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else notice that there were no women on this list?

  • @CornishCreamtea07

    @CornishCreamtea07

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am not aware of any famous female writers who were terrible people, but then again I didn't know about some of the people on this list. I've heard some people claim that Agatha Christie was terrible, but that is based on her works, rather than her personal life.

  • @lyokianhitchhiker

    @lyokianhitchhiker

    6 жыл бұрын

    Your Favorite Crazy Sadistic Lover That’s so old.

  • @crs290

    @crs290

    6 жыл бұрын

    Double standard. Patricia Highsmith, Ayn Rand to name a couple.

  • @R.M.MacFru

    @R.M.MacFru

    6 жыл бұрын

    CornishCreamtea07 ...Marion Zimmer Bradley. She and her husband used her influence to molest children.

  • @drexelmildraff7580

    @drexelmildraff7580

    6 жыл бұрын

    Patricia Highsmith -- The Talented Mr. Ripely -- would be a good choice. She was a vicious anti-Semite.

  • @TheLloydro
    @TheLloydro6 жыл бұрын

    Wrong. George Orwell did not sell out other writers. The lists he had were private and were used to guess which writers were Communists/Fascists. He DID NOT SELL OUT FELLOW WRITERS. Interestingly it turned out he was right about the writers in most cases.

  • @charlesnwarren

    @charlesnwarren

    6 жыл бұрын

    He was dead at 38.

  • @TheMak445
    @TheMak4455 жыл бұрын

    You missed out L Ron Hubbard.

  • @thomasthompson6378
    @thomasthompson63784 жыл бұрын

    I don't know about this. People are not, usually, either angels or awful, and my guess is that most of the writers identified here had some good in them, too. Just like all of us.

  • @chadinmich1
    @chadinmich16 жыл бұрын

    Don’t think Hunter S Thompson was a jerk, so much as mentally unstable. I found him kinda likable, but crazy

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Drugs he took complicated it!

  • @chadinmich1

    @chadinmich1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tara Mahoney True. I don’t think he treated his wives very well, but I don’t think he was a jerk or terrible person generally speaking

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe not! I'll look into him to find out more! You may be right!

  • @charlesnwarren

    @charlesnwarren

    6 жыл бұрын

    The guy was on drugs.

  • @jessemorton-kopiasz962

    @jessemorton-kopiasz962

    4 жыл бұрын

    I literally laughed out loud before the narrator said, "Very funny Thompson, but you're the only one laughing." Apparently not Mr. Snowflake.

  • @rskalisky
    @rskalisky6 жыл бұрын

    Bukowski?

  • @craigjameshigginsbird6988

    @craigjameshigginsbird6988

    6 жыл бұрын

    rskalisky Second greatest author ever Stephen kings first but yes he was a pretty bad person

  • @jamier8726

    @jamier8726

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. And during one interview (guess you can find it on youtube) he was totally wasted and started to beat his wife. And he was always cheating her. But he basically admits all that in his autobiographical novels. But Papa Hemingway was also same kinda guy.

  • @siren7362
    @siren73625 жыл бұрын

    the only one i'm really scandalized by is Salingers. hebephilia is on a whole different level than questionable pranks or being a jerk

  • @Observer-cp4if
    @Observer-cp4if5 жыл бұрын

    Someone needs to renew their library card and try again. Too many inaccuracies in this to count.

  • @mrm2542
    @mrm25424 жыл бұрын

    Lol everyone knew that about Roald Dahl and Jack London 😂

  • @theveganvillainess
    @theveganvillainess6 жыл бұрын

    He tied Bill Murray to a chair and threw him in the pool!? The sadistic bastard! He can't do that to one of my favorite actors 😡😭

  • @denisenova7494

    @denisenova7494

    6 жыл бұрын

    YES! Such an asshole. Bill Murray is awesome.

  • @theduchessofspring2395
    @theduchessofspring23956 жыл бұрын

    I'm perplexed as to why Charles Dickens isn't on this list. He was awful to his wife and even their children said he could care less about them.

  • @jimparsons6803
    @jimparsons68034 жыл бұрын

    An eye opener. Did not know this. I guess I've lead a sheltered life. Interesting that these folks ended up with fame and or fortune? How does that happen?

  • @joshuaprice8501
    @joshuaprice85012 жыл бұрын

    The fact that we now demand our artists to follow orthodoxy and be "good" people is why there are so few great (known) artists today.

  • @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    @AnnaMaledonPictureBookAuthor

    6 ай бұрын

    You don't have to be a jerk to be a good artist. That's not how this works.

  • @liampatrick3110
    @liampatrick31103 жыл бұрын

    Was this list made by a TWITTER user?

  • @julianterris
    @julianterris6 жыл бұрын

    The great thing about You Tube is that anyone with a computer, internet, and editing software can say whatever they like. The worst thing about You Tube is that anyone with a computer, internet, and editing software can say whatever they like.

  • @mellakat80
    @mellakat804 жыл бұрын

    Let's not forget that H.P. Lovecraft was a heavy supporter of eugenics

  • @valerieneal2747

    @valerieneal2747

    3 жыл бұрын

    So was Jack London.

  • @redpiper9836
    @redpiper98366 жыл бұрын

    Talented people are not usually good people

  • @redpiper9836

    @redpiper9836

    6 жыл бұрын

    oceanblueharmony and why so ?

  • @francescahuawei4194

    @francescahuawei4194

    6 жыл бұрын

    not true

  • @fernthegreenfairy

    @fernthegreenfairy

    6 жыл бұрын

    That’s a shit stereotype

  • @loki2240

    @loki2240

    6 жыл бұрын

    Red Piper - What are you basing that on?

  • @sansam358

    @sansam358

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's a lot of bad people who is untalented, but you don't know them because they aren't famous.

  • @ghostdog7575
    @ghostdog75756 жыл бұрын

    WOW. I can't say too much about other authors here because I'm no expert, but what thee video says about Jack London is such a load of bullshit... It took the quotes totally out of contest making him say the exact opposite of what London's views were...

  • @almishti

    @almishti

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not really, London wrote plenty of other stuff, and said stuff, that shows he was very much in the spirit of his era when it comes to racial matters. A social darwinist basically who thought the Anglo-Saxon race was inherently superior. 'Teutonism' they called it at the time; Teddy Roosevelt was really bullish on it too. That's what Racism is all about. But they did choose a weak example here, uyet they weren't wrong.

  • @agentjs09
    @agentjs094 ай бұрын

    Jack London was self-described amoral. When his first wife got mad at him for going out at nights and philandering, he told her that morality is just a sign of low blood pressure.

  • @WRPUS471
    @WRPUS4714 жыл бұрын

    It looks like Jack London understood the Chinese before the rest of us. Racism is always truth.

  • @1cladius
    @1cladius6 жыл бұрын

    Seriously???!!! This is the best you have? You should do a vid on banal, petty, muck rakers who would denigrate anyone for a few measly dollars!! Then you could replay this video.

  • @KEMET1971
    @KEMET19716 жыл бұрын

    Is there any difference between the KGB and the CIA?

  • @kephahor4251

    @kephahor4251

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @ursamagick6110

    @ursamagick6110

    6 жыл бұрын

    KGB doesn't exist anymore. It's the FBS.

  • @taramahoney3368

    @taramahoney3368

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not Sure! I'll have to look that one up!

  • @jona71377

    @jona71377

    6 жыл бұрын

    russian

  • @jamesguthrel5015
    @jamesguthrel50154 жыл бұрын

    grunge is another form of brain washing we all fucked up but lived and got taken out of context

  • @Fromard
    @Fromard6 жыл бұрын

    Most of the things noted don't make them 'terrible' people. They were just people of their time doing and think what most other people did in that time period.

  • @martinhanley9524
    @martinhanley95242 жыл бұрын

    A woke fifth columner we got here

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