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Sparkies doing any data work always send shivers down my spine, installing internal access points outside gives me the fear.

@riks.1773

3 жыл бұрын

I understand why they dont know, but for the products they deliver being new and mostly connected devices a bigger grasp of that would go a long way, i mean they can upsell a customer a whole retrofit domotic system but dont because the lack of knowledge in that field. But again i understand the lack of knowledge.

@oninbridders

3 жыл бұрын

I will have to subscribe to the Data KZreadrs to see what they say about Sparkies. Kitchen fitters of the Data world.

@drumsonly44

3 жыл бұрын

its an outdoor rated access point

@calummcmillan3691

3 жыл бұрын

@@drumsonly44 it's suitable to mount under a canopy not right out in the elements.

@acelectricalsecurity

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah normally they just do the easy work, installing the cables ready for the rock stars to do the hard part 🙄

"The UAP-AC-PRO may be installed outdoors under an eave or other protected location. Do not install the UniFi AP in an open environment."

@jborde

3 жыл бұрын

came here to say this

@metrotechguru5863

3 жыл бұрын

Good job sharing that mate.

@QuattroUK2011

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad they used an Access Point rather than an extender as mentioned on the previous video. And yes you might have issues with this device if it is open to the elements, might have got away with installing it directly under the charger. Best bet for outdoors is the UniFi AC Mesh.

@wallyhall

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the CAT(5e?) cable doesn't look UV rated on the bit that's exposed. Probably will be fine - but I've seen those degrade quite quickly (and go horribly brittle) outside when exposed to sunlight.

@tommymack3210

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuattroUK2011 its not directly under the charging robot though.

You DO realize that the Ubiquiti AP-AC-Pro is NOT waterproof and NOT designed to be mounted outside without a protective case? Please go back to that customer and fit a case over the AP or it will fail due to corrosion within a year.

@hawk_ness

3 жыл бұрын

I will give it a month before its dead...

@metrotechguru5863

3 жыл бұрын

@@hawk_ness Less if their dog wees on it.

Like others have said that AP is not waterproof & I would also be proper miffed as the customer if I had forked out extra for an Anderson EV charge point because of its looks only to have that glaring white disc on the wall with a black Wiska box next to it along with the grey CAT 6 cable that is not externally rated plus the meter & a half of armoured CAT 6 coiled up & cleated to the wall.

@TheManLab

2 жыл бұрын

Was a proper dogs dinner after the addition. Looked slick before the changes.

@jsouto77

2 жыл бұрын

The AP is actually weatherproof. However I did not see the need for its placement there. They are more suited to go under eves to be fair and could of gone outside the main building and provided plenty of coverage. Also, as it was just a single unit, it would of come with its own POE injector and unless you were planning to expand, there was no need for that POE hub.

@APSuk2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsouto77 Weatherproof & waterproof are entirely different things. That AP is open to all the elements. They are designed to be installed with shelter overhead like below the eaves of a roof or a porch. I agree with you on placement & the injector.

@ritchierennie8556

2 жыл бұрын

agreed, was it fitted free??? bet not

@amenaspecialist

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I would of just tried an directional AP mounted to the house first, think it looks a mess installed there like that

That first job was painful to watch and looked a right mess at the end Jordan, sorry. As mentioned elsewhere in the comments, that is not an access point that's rated to be fully exposed to the elements like that. Ubiquiti make outdoor specific access points (that are cheaper than the AC Pro too!), that are designed in such a way that it would also have saved that mess of an unnecessary Wiska box installation too. Definitely reconsider going back and redoing that with a UAP-AC-M, much better form factor for that job and designed to be fully outdoors.

I think it is nice that you are showing the faults/problems too, not just the "Here we are doing a new installation"

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks yeah we try to keep things real

"They've changed the way these wiska boxes mount"... foreshadowing the 'read the instructions' mantra you had just ranted about :D

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been so long since he been on the tools

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly i've been off the tools for way too long!

@Fishbait075

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Grab some pringles, a consumer unit, and a camera man. Show Cory whose the boss :)

@bellas_switch_adapted_toys

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan, do yourself a favour mate and contact your local wholesaler for a KDHDDC6S65-WHT, it should cost you around £7 & put that AP within it.! It'll give it IP65 protection and just look like a light fitting / bulkhead.! (I'd suggest the WHT on the code as that'll include the white decorative trim! Don't have to use it, but looks a bit nicer.!). (I've done this for several customers when they've come in to the trade counter with this issue). Failing that, give me a direct message with your preferred address and I'll send you one FOC.!! (Looks like you had a nightmare day in this vid, so may make up for it a bit.)

@MrKonastinky04

3 жыл бұрын

Could the bracket not just mount the other way up? Not a criticism just a thought as I haven't yet seen the new version Absolutely love the channel 👌

That's not an ap rated for outdoors. It can be installed outside but only if protected from the elements cause otherwise water is going to drip inside the Unit. For this install an ap-ac-m / M-pro or an ap-flex would be perfect.

@gorgonbert

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 👍… …also you didn’t need to put a PoE switch… a simple power injector would have been enough

@SquirreliciousMe

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't think they were rated for exposed outdoor use either - also, unless you needed a switch, a protected injector (Ubiquiti make them, they just don't ship them by default) - £12 or so.

@stephencoulthard1718

3 жыл бұрын

The Pro is IP rated but only for under soffet etc :) Can put in IP box or get Ac-m as above

@IReUploadVideos

3 жыл бұрын

It is BUT you have to put the grommet the comes with the AP in the back, he will be back to replace that unit soon.

Can’t wait to see the next episode titled “replacing a ubiquiti non waterproof access point” also why wouldn’t you just use a ubiquiti injector would have been cheaper and more simple for the client rather than using a POE switch

@davidranieri924

3 жыл бұрын

@@voltare2amstereo only if you buy the unifi stuff . The standard ubiquiti doesn’t

@andrewwatson3576

2 жыл бұрын

@@voltare2amstereo TPlink is just cheap utter rubbish, I suggested it to a customer when their range of controlled access points came out and two weeks later after various replacement parts and the best thing i done was to box it back up and send it back, replaced with an unifi setup and no problems

@andrewwatson3576

2 жыл бұрын

Them pro access points are waterproof, but he would have been better off using the Outdoor Mesh one for around £80 and spending a bit more on a decent 8 port PoE switch, not to mention the cable will fail from the Wiska box to the AP as the grey will break down over time

@LionelWilson007

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, this is the wrong AP, only two of this range have a stated rating and this is an IP54, which, at best only tolerates some dust or light splashes. So it’s fine for a porch but will not survive in an unprotected environment. There are outdoor APs in the UniFi range and this not one of them. This will definitely have to be replaced although I am interested in how long it will take before it goes legs up! 😊

Eeeeek. Those Ubt AP’s won’t last long outside like that!

@tommymack3210

3 жыл бұрын

Hope they are IP44…

Anderson need to sort that out, no Ethernet port ! Wifi only on equipment that’s always going to be outside the house is a bit poor if you ask me !

At least you've been payed something for doing warranty work, I've luckily not had to many warranty call out but the one's I have had dont pay me the electrician to diagnose the problem let alone do the replacement EVER. Luving your channel from Australia Corey and Johnny you legends 😎

Not only is that AP not designed for that use, should have been a UAP-AC-M or UAP-AC-M-PRO but you bought a single unit, it includes a POE injector so no POE switch required. Not a good data install, to be completely honest.

1. As everyone says the AP is not outdoor rated. 2. Is that network cable UV protected? All the outdoor cables I use are black for UV protection, the other colours including grey eventually crack and split in sunlight. 3. Surge protection is not required for outdoor PoE, although it is recommended. 4. An 8 port switch is incredibly overkill for this application and costs the customer money unnecessarily. 5. If you only have one network cable terminated you should replace the unused keystone with a blanking plate. I love the videos overall, but you really need to do proper research before putting installs in or content out.

Could’ve sworn those Ubiquiti Pro units could only be outside if shielded from the elements, e.g. under eaves or somewhere equally protected like a porch.

@breakz187

3 жыл бұрын

Its going to die

@adriangoodwin4801

3 жыл бұрын

Correct maybe if he had actually read the instructions would help

@robinjones140

3 жыл бұрын

Plus, that is mounted far too close to the client. Its radio antennas wont be very effective at that range.

@hardave17

3 жыл бұрын

There is literally nothing stopping water ingress from getting to the internals.

As some others have said, the UAP-AC-Pro isn't rated for direct weather exposure, only outdoor in covered areas. UAP-AC-M would be the best choice here.

Poor customer. Sure he would prefer one ugly box on the wall rather than 3 ugly boxes

@tomorichard

3 жыл бұрын

What about the 3 meters of cable coiled up underneath it ?

@SquirreliciousMe

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the whole reason for that Andersen originally was to have a really clean install, that is the opposite of what they've now got.

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

@@SquirreliciousMe I guess if they knew that functionality had been removed they wouldn’t have fitted it. Availability of other chargers isn’t great

@Leftfield2k7

3 жыл бұрын

Should have mounted the AP to the bottom of a fully sealed IP rated plastic box drilled a couple of small drainage holes in the lid and then buried it lid down in a shallow hole with some tree bark on top! Not only would the install then be invisible to the eye, the AP would have far greater protection against the elements !!

Sparkies doing telecoms. It never stops to amaze me

@acelectricalsecurity

3 жыл бұрын

Well sometimes they have to, I left a master phone module for the BT guy to connect and push in the grid I fitted, only to get a call from the home owner to say the BT guy said he can't connect it because he hasn't been trained on how to connect it. So in the end I had to go back and connect it, obviously he was confused because the terminals were 1-6 and not A&B.

@ronnielloyd4676

3 жыл бұрын

Not telecoms...data...there is a big differnece.

How come you didn’t use a Poe injector instead of a switch as that would be cheaper and easier to install?

As a few people have said, those APs are not rated for open outdoor environments, the instructions do say this. You’ve got potential overheating issues, UV breakdown of the plastic (yellowing) and also water ingress - they’re probably moisture resistant at best. Ubiquiti do sell IP rated APs and this needs to be changed for one. It’s not about one-upmanship but as an IT engineer I’ve installed many of these and just some advice which you need to know 👍🏻

AMAZING job!! You enjoyed driving your new van comfortably. Thumbs up! Cheers!

A lot of extra equipment because Anderson removed the Ethernet, gone from a smart looking charging box to a ufo, con box, poe switch, and extra leads, shame really.

@robthomas7232

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of extra expense as well

That AP doesn't have the level of ingress protection you think...

Another great video! Love seeing these repair videos, installed a few zappis lately so any tips for when they go wrong is really useful, thanks

Bit of a dog's dinner this one... Looks like you'll be heading back there soon again!

@rogerbean393

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yes it does look proper shite !

20:10 CP stands for Control Pilot. PP is Proximity Pilot. PP is used to tell the car the current rating of the cable ( mostly useful for non-tethered). CP is used to tell the car how much current is available, and for the car to tell the EVSE to turn power on. You should see 12VAC from CP to earth.

@gerrysweeney2127

3 жыл бұрын

12V AC at 1Khz squarewave, some meters might read slightly different to that.

@mikeselectricstuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@gerrysweeney2127 In practice it's either going to be 12v or nothing, so even a crappy meter should give a useful indication. And people working on mains should not be using crappy meters.

@gerrysweeney2127

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeselectricstuff yeah fair enough, I guess all decent meters should read a 1Khz squarewave without issue.

That first job was awesome. I've installed those Ubiquiti access points at my job and we started using those same small switches to avoid using the POE injectors. We also have a WIFI bridge system where the main Ubiquiti is broadcasting out about 100 yards to an access point and I'm about to install another one of these systems to give WIFI out to a pump room for a massive lawn irrigation unit.

I had a Zappi installed mostly because of the big up that you give it and now I'm getting worried that it's going to fail at some point..if it does I'm coming for ya. Only kidy your vlogs are top notch and I can't wait for the next installment 👏👏👏

You can buy some really tiny APs. 48mm x 49mm x 11mm. For this job one of them would probably fit inside the charger box for a much neater result. You also don't need the PoE router. A simple PoE injector would do the same job and cost a lot less.

Thanks for highlighting the zappi issues, they can't afford to let quality slide even after chip shortages and the massive growing pains they are currently going through.

Personally ide have put a back-to-back RJ45 connector within the box then created a small patch cable between the box to AP using externally rated CAT cable.

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think he had rj45 crimpers in the van looking at his face

@ricardobranco7357

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyK.1 hmm maybe :), ide even look at the Amphenol waterproof bulkhead connectors, might be overkill but nice way to isolate the box from the connected unit.

Congrats on 73k, great video mate keep it up always love the content 👍. Hope u had a great weekend, wish you the best for this week!!.

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

At 20:33 you say that only one of the CP - PP connections are used; they are both used. CP connects to the vehicle to provide communication; PP has a a resistor to PE inside the plug to tell the vehicle (and charger in untethered units) the rating of the cable. I recently found a cable where the PP resistor had gone open-circuit which prevented charging.

I have installed many UI based systems here in the US. It's not a wifi extender, its a full access point. That access point isn't made for direct wet environments and isn't IP rated as such. They are only made for use outside in a in sheltered environment (under a porch for example) that isn't in direct spray areas. The transmitters are way to strong and will over power the receiver in the Anderson. If anything at least put the AP in a plastic outside waterproof box. The signal will work fine, and unit will work for more than a few months in the rain. Or better yet you can get an outdoor rated AP that would be much better fit for this application. Surge protection really isn't needed as its floating and not tied to earth anywhere, also the Ethernet spec has isolation built in by design. If it was tied to a PC out there with another ground point, then yes there would be much larger differential in grounds and surge protection could be used. If lightning hits it, a surge protector will be vaporized along with the Anderson. Also you have to make sure that any surge protection won't trigger based on POE voltages on the link. Keep up the good work Jordan.

Reminds me of when I used to be an electronics field service engineer but we also repaired the pcbs down to component level back at the workshop.

@oninbridders

3 жыл бұрын

It's still a thing but to keep the warranty everything gets sent back to the manufacturer. As things have got more complex, the job that is, not the PCB, I guess it makes sense to skill up a group of people that only do repairs back at base and the field engineer can focus on the job in hand.

You can't mount the Unifi AP outside like that. The manual clearly says: Outdoor Installation Requirements IMPORTANT: The UAP-AC-PRO may be installed outdoors under an eave or other protected location. Do not install the UniFi AP in an open environment. Maybe the Unifi AP Mesh is a better option? Keep up the good work! Greets from the Netherlands

@ozziejames1993

3 жыл бұрын

Are you an actual electrician or are you a keyboard warrior who pretends he is?

@mattsan70

3 жыл бұрын

@@ozziejames1993 He is correct - they are not IP65 rated

@flip0546

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics I just wanted to point it out as it was your first Unifi install. I'm not an electrician but a Unifi installer ;-)

@jonathanp4128

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah UAP-AC-M-EU cheaper as well than a pro

@ja_adam_

3 жыл бұрын

@@ozziejames1993 he is simply telling someone the correct information so he can help them. Maybe you are the keyboard warrior.

Superb vlog and yes very much appreciate what you do I love learning new things and you are a credit to your trade keep up the amazing work kind regards to you mark from billericay 😃👍

Of course, Learning and informative!

Would be good to get an update on this video to see whether you swapped out the AP for a waterproof one. Also in future you didn't need to put the AP next to the charger. Just mount on the house (as long as it's within range). In the end it's Wireless. Have you ever thought of sending your guys for a basic IT/Network hardware course/qual? Would really help you out when dealing with Comms kit.

You could have used just a POE Injector instead of the 8 port switch, much smaller, neater and cheaper

Good video. I must admit after using all my senses I’ve met a few girls in the past that were showing signs of electrical burning. 🐠

Great vid Jordan, really enjoyed that. Hope you don’t mind but I used you hypervault vid in my degree. I was really impressed with the tech in that

@artisanelectrics

2 жыл бұрын

Thats great!

You don't have to use the mounting brackets with wiska boxes, you can spray and screw through the holes in the corners of the box where the lid is screwed shut. Might need a thinner screwdriver or bit to fully tighten and reach the back. Still doesn't affect ip rating and makes a better fixing then brackets. Hope this helps👍

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know but I just never find they line up very well on uneven surfaces if you do them like that it always bends the box

Happy with Hypervolt you recommended 👍

I'm an OZEV approved installer and predominantly fit Pod Point and occasionally Wallbox. Never had a single failure.

Loving the van

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

Sortimo racking coming soon ?

When you mount your wiska boxes outside do you use a IP washer? I use them in work and argue that when glanded it doesnt requires a ip washer but i could be wrong? Any light to shed?

Anderson removing the hard wired option is poor, especially for what they cost. It would be a reason I wouldn't buy one. Wireless should be the option of last resort, not the only option.

@vincentguidi8997

3 жыл бұрын

Key issue is lack of transparency. Wifi in the garden is always a plus, but needs to be an informed choice.

@SquirreliciousMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentguidi8997 By all means put Wi-Fi in the garden, but still, fixed appliances are best served by ethernet. Removing it saves almost sod all but does create hassle where Wi-Fi isn't possible or just plain difficult, and again, those Andersen chargers are stupidly expensive so it's hardly necessary to penny pinch.

@metrotechguru5863

3 жыл бұрын

@@SquirreliciousMe Well said.

@vincentguidi8997

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickhickson8738 as a general FYI you can get skins for the ap installed.

You raved about Zappi. Now you're just making yourself look like Hypervolt lined your pockets...

@Blackf1ngers

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair a lot of people did. We are replacing and repairing quite a few of them now, and few we've fitted recently have been faulty from the box or gone bad within a few days use.

These APs don't need to be that close to the unit, it could've been installed indoors (based on the video it's quite near) and it would be protected. That Ubiquiti AP isn't Outdoor rated and will fail with moisture buildup (please update to the UAP-flexHD, which is Outdoor rated), also if you're doing an outdoor AP please add an isolator / surge disconnect to the POE lines. (First portion of video)

You don’t necessarily need a lightning surge protector on the WAP it is belt and braces though if going directly in to a PoE switch. Save the expensive switch and sacrifice the protector. If using an injector then surge protector and injector cost roughly the same so no point really. In reality though unless you are buying certified surge protectors to the the correct lighting protection level then it’s just a gamble, the surge protectors get real expensive fast going down this route. However have a look at Rolling Sphere Method for lightning protection. The tree, wall, charger would be the first to be struck as the WAP is within the shadow of the sphere and not the sphere itself which all above mentioned components/items would form the circumference off. Keep up the great work.

Looks a little like you installed that small board a little too far to the left? If it’s unkeyed, you might have fried it, make sure it lines up with the outline on the PCB behind it.

@ThePrawlin

3 жыл бұрын

Deffo. More care needed with electronics stuff Jordan. Either that or don’t touch anything involving less than 5 Amps!

Thanks for an entertaining episode.😃👌👏👏👏

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Having 2nd thoughts about being an ev installer now, there’s got to be a reliable unit out there which does not require constant repairs.

@davecowan9466

3 жыл бұрын

How does anyone know how reliable a product is going to be until they’re tried and tested? Everything’s great until it starts going wrong, just a shame that’s often some way down the line when you’ve already fitted loads of said item 😂🤦🏽

@edc1569

3 жыл бұрын

I've had a podpoint on my wall for five years, daily use, no issue. Considering myenergi are subsiding site visits - it doesn't seem that bad to have to go back to

@123tinhat123

3 жыл бұрын

EV domestic charging units are a fairly new technology so some will prove the test of time others not. If a 1:10 failure rate for the Zappi is true then I would avoid installing them.

Good rant, Jordan - bad shown from Andersen not updating existing approved installers about some fairly major changes! Re the WiFi AP, wouldn't it have looked nicer to hide it behind the hedge? 🙂 (also would be better to use an outdoor rated unit!)

I use those AP's at home, there is no way I would mount one of these externally, they are not rated for that, rain will kill it within months if not weeks. If it were me I would have mounted an IP67 plastic enclosure on the wall big enough to put the AP inside, I would have run the cable into the box using the gland.

Ubiquiti... great choice and fantastic work as always!

With that myenergi fault it looks like from the angle you plugged the pins in off-by-one, so likely is you plugged the top row, into the second row, which results in the power line cooking something.

@mattsan70

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that - easily done and confess I have been there myself!

@oninbridders

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattsan70 everyone who works with electronics knows the smoke test. I still blame myenergi for making it symmetrical. Unfortunately a lot of PCB designers like to do a neat job, just like we all do.

@mikeselectricstuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@oninbridders Yeah they need to make it electrician-proof - should have used a shrouded header. :-)

@ThePrawlin

3 жыл бұрын

Easily done sure, but super easily checked for and corrected BEFORE actually powering up. Too much time posing at the camera and not enough care and attention to detail on the job in hand. Sorry but true. Poor customers previously working Zappi destroyed. Poor MyEnergi footing the ZAPPI renewal cost no doubt without any quibble too! All entirely avoidable. Sorry but it has to be said, especially as Jordan is slating Zappi so much. Zappi is way more advanced and complex than any other EVSE so comparing reliability to dumb ones is a bit silly TBH.

@MorgenBlue

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrawlin If it was working fine before he wouldn't of been there. Can't really tell for certain from the video if it was plugged in correctly or not.

Is your £96 an hour plus VAT too? With MyEnergi paying you £75+VAT that works out as £90 which isn’t too shabby as there are hundreds of manufacturers who DON’T pay anything when their product fails; downlights, RCBO recalls, speakers etc. Going back to sort an issue, whether it’s your fault or not, is called customer service as part of after sales and running a business. The customer has paid you handsomely so I should think they’d expect a no quibble visit to sort these things out?

@rscelectrical7091

2 жыл бұрын

Nicely put.

@richardm2445

2 жыл бұрын

96 an hour? Disgusting.

@JasperJanssen

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardm2445 keep in mind this is London. High overheads.

Hey, I just wanna let you know that, that Unifi AP is NOT outdoor rated. I work as a technician for an ISP, and there are other more suited alternatives for this like UAP-AC-M.

I’m not an electrician but would it make sense for all chargers to have some form of external cover to protect from the elements. That includes those at service stations.

Great vid. Didnt realise OLEV were not allowing historical applications after 1st Aug. Can i be cheeky and if you (or anyone else) have time post a link about this as im not able to find it.

I'm a plumber by trade and love you're vids, they helped me install my own car charger here in Ireland. I recommend replacing those trouble some Anderson chargers for the very reliable wallbox pulsar plus charger 😀 Keep up with the quality work

@DerekHeffernan21

3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics shit trust a plumber to pick the wrong one lol

Guess ANDERSON is no longer a premium product if you can’t hard wire it?

I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one having issues with the zappi chargers! 😅

I can see the number of faulty charging points just rising in the following year as EV is really kicking off. I have a feeling that 10% failure rate will reach around 25-30% this time next year.

Could do with that AP inside a meter box or something

Have you fitted any Hypervolt chargers for customers with solar PV?

I would rethink that outdoor wifi install. As others have said, that Ubiquiti AP is not designed for outdoor use. Also, it would be fairly trivial to take that AP off the wall and plug straight into the customer's network. I would look at putting an outdoor rated AP on the outside wall of the main building, high enough to make it difficult to access from the ground. That way you lessen the risk of someone fiddling with it and getting access to the customers network.

@timprice5

3 жыл бұрын

That's a really good point about plugging straight into a customer's network from outside - no VLANs i would guess so indeed a direct LAN connection so would be so easy to get into all their devices with likely default passwords

The POE injector provided with Ubiquity gear is surged protected so always use this for a single install. For multiple installs to a POE switch use a Ethernet line serge protector for each device.

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Great info thanks

@adriangoodwin4801

3 жыл бұрын

No it’s not a surge protector unifi do a surge protector for £10 and why these access point can be used outside if you actually read it should be under cover

@alexanderbuckland

3 жыл бұрын

This info is wrong. It's not surge protected.

@paulblundell8033

3 жыл бұрын

@@adriangoodwin4801 i totally agree with this, we have probably 2000+ Ubiquiti AP’s now installed and this is not a model I would mount like this. I think it also skips over the controller part ( which is a big thing with Ubiquiti ). I would of also used a Ubiquiti POE switch ( though they are a lot more than a TP Link and hard to get hold off at the moment ) as you get loads more info on the controller portal.

@danfrance7778

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbuckland Unifi POE injectors have always been surge protected it’s in there spec.

New van out-n-about 😀

I bet there’s gonna be a rushed board meeting tomorrow at the my energy head office lol

No RJ45 and no type A rcd? I'm so glad I watched this - I was going to buy one but those were literally the 2 features I wanted built in to the unit. Looks like I'll be getting a zappi.

ANDERSEN have been told! If they have costed down their product there would be no reason why they can't make the RJ45 a snap in module. Shows they don't watch these videos as most of them you have hard wired.

Love the Final Fantasy battle jingle from the fried charger

Are you sure you installed that RCD circuit board in the correct orientation?

@Firecul

3 жыл бұрын

From the back of the circuitboard it looks like it should be correct

@roymorton8142

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder was the CT fitted in the correct orientation

@edc1569

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the pins weren't lined up properly, so they ended up being offset - as he was more worried about the piece to camera than getting the board in correctly. Though Myenergi need to redesign it with shrouded connectors if they're going to make that part end-user/installer serviceable.

@crazyirishman121

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems like a poor PCB layout to me if the user can install it the wrong way or at an offset.

@ThePrawlin

2 жыл бұрын

@@edc1569 The pins deffo were misaligned. He caused the fault that wasn’t present before the hardware update. I think what you are saying is that ME need to redesign the connectors to make them IDIOT proof.

Oh dear Jordan, I really like the content and appreciate your putting yourself on view to the public worts and all. That wasn’t one of the best mate, too many mistakes for a man of your capabilities

I have had a few issues with my own Zappi recently, seems I am not the only one.

@shaft8779

3 жыл бұрын

Which one do u have? I had issues with my zappi2 but it was the electrician who connected it wrong

@jackbrown1260

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaft8779 Zappi v2, had one of the relays inside melt which caused an 'output fault' error and then also had the smart hun completely fail. Both replaced by Zappi but still a pain

What do you do in the scenario where you've got to replace a charging point, who do you bill for your time?

Great vid, I will be cancelling my Zapi order soon 😀

Would have personally gone for one of the ubnt outdoor AP mesh devices as they look a lot sleeker, perhaps hidden it behind some of the wall bushary

I would have run the armored cat 5 behind the shrubbery and terminated in the box, connected a bit of black external cat5 and used a TP-link eap225-outdoor AP (it's supplied with a POE injector with 4KV lightning and 15KV ESD protection built in) Get a can of mat black paint and give it a quick spray and you'll be good.

The days have gone when a sparkie could repair everything that came there way

Worst thing about EV charge point installs is WIFI connectivity!.....oh and OLEV grants!

@oninbridders

3 жыл бұрын

Reading online, someone said a hard wire is a security risk. That does make sense. You could easily tap into someone's home network via a snip. Install a router and the charger would still work.

@olivernash6004

2 жыл бұрын

@@oninbridders Good shout but only really an issue if it's not configured properly. If you enable port security or place the drop to the charger in a seperate VLAN then you can prevent access to the rest of the network. This is why more and more sparks/security installers are partnering with IT/Networking firms so the IP aspect is taken care of for them.

As well as moving factory, Myenergi have had to completely re-design the circuit boards due to the chip shortages, so new boards, new firmware etc. all problems now fixed so supplies should get back to normal.

@artisanelectrics

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s hope so!

that duct poking out the ground and the coiled armored cat 5 looks a right bodge.

Hello Jordan my parents have a Ceiling Fan wth a Heavy Motor but the plugs are starting to slip now 5 Years after installation and are hanging out half way I'm worried that the whole thing will Drop what Plasterboard Plugs would you recommend? Before it Drops totally! You input would be Very Helpful Buddy 🙂

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

You should have a batten f wood above to screw it to

Turn the wiska bracket round, my apprentice pointed it out to me😂

I am mid EV charging course and the IET book states even with a TNS system you must assume it will be a hybrid TNC-S in future and there fore you need to earth the EV charger with a TT and consider making the whole system TT. Systems like Zappi are excepted of course. What do you think? I don’t think I have seen a KZreadr instal earth rods as part of EV instal.

@artisanelectrics

2 жыл бұрын

I had installed earth rods on videos a couple of years ago before the charge points incorporated PEN detection

@richiegtridentelectrics9635

2 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics this was exactly the explanation we came up with, PEN either incorporated or at source. It’s the first I’ve heard/read about the DNO driving to TT systems so they don’t have responsibility for the earth.

thank you Jordan you proven to me i want be getting a electric car .

@AndyK.1

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen Tom the sparks latest video where 2 street chargers don’t work. He did get free parking though !

I’d love to know how to connect one of those ubiquity AP’s I have one am I am so far struggling to set it up…

@danfrance7778

3 жыл бұрын

If it’s just a single unit out the box just download the ubiquity UI app and you can set it up as a single access point. It should pick it up. If you want to get deeper in features and manage multiple units. You can download abs install the controller software on a PC or buy a controller.

That last charger is playing the Final Fantasy Victory jingle noise.

As many others have said, the Ubiquiti AP is not suited for that install location. Does the customer even have a controller for that access point? And the included PoE injector that comes with the AP is fine - don't need a PoE switch for it. That solution is a real "do over".

flapi zapi nice one jordan

I'd be inclined to spray that white flying saucer black to contrast the brickwork / unit and the match the Whisker Box.

You are going to be back again to replace that access point...

Are you keeping the old zappi units and breaking them for parts as a way to get your money back??

A radio like a wifi AP should be mounted as high as possible. Wouldn't it be better to mount it higher up the wall, especially with the length of cable that Cory had put the gland at? Will also keep it out of moisture at the lower level.

@metrotechguru5863

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. I would never mount an AP so low to the ground for exactly the reasons you provided. Plus, their bloody dog might wee on it.

@guffermeister

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily - depends on the direction of the spatial streams which depends on the internal antenna positioning. Most modern decent wifi points are MIMO so less of an issue in that regard

@ThePrawlin

3 жыл бұрын

It won’t matter where on that wall it’s mounted as it’s gonna die soon due to water ingress 🤣

@metrotechguru5863

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrawlin You're quite right. Que sera sera.

That access point is not waterproof. It is designed to be installed in semi-outdoor conditions with shelter from rain and direct sunlight. You also didn't need to install a PoE switch, as that access point comes with a PoE injector. The cabling isn't externally rated and there's too much excess. Cmon, terminating a data line with an RJ45 plug isn't difficult. Usually, I really enjoy watching these videos but that AP is going to die very soon, potentially bringing that switch with it. PoE switches usually also need to be earthed separately, especially if the lines are going in an outdoor environment. You should be using an outdoor-rated, shielded (not necessarily armored) cable if going outdoors with PoE.