Renault Scenic & Grand Scenic 2017 review - can 7 seaters be cool? | Mat Watson reviews

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I was at the launch for the brand new Renault Scenic and Grand Scenic and have the low down on this 5 seater and 7 seater people carrier. The Scenic comes with seven different engine options (two petrol and five diesel) and, even a hybrid option! Even the infotainment display is slightly unique, as it's mounted portrait instead of landscape. Find out more about the new Renault Scenic before it hits the market in our brand new 4k video. Will you be purchasing this family friendly MPV?
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  • @carwow
    @carwow6 жыл бұрын

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  • @monsifalayachi

    @monsifalayachi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi mat we want head2head Duster vs kuga vs qashqai

  • @alexb_2327

    @alexb_2327

    6 жыл бұрын

    carwow yes they can the Audi q7

  • @c3vzn
    @c3vzn7 жыл бұрын

    Hmm the interior isn't boring at all to me. Maybe the colour scheme is just a bit drab.

  • @misterosc
    @misterosc7 жыл бұрын

    I have had a Renault Scenic and believe me those 4:53 are so good for smuggling drugs across the border

  • @alles_klar

    @alles_klar

    7 жыл бұрын

    well not anymore they're not :(

  • @RivieraByBuick

    @RivieraByBuick

    7 жыл бұрын

    or if u are in a journey during the hot summer and leave your car parked - those boxes are the only place where food can survive.

  • @yahiakhaiwi743

    @yahiakhaiwi743

    7 жыл бұрын

    misterOsc the little cabinets under the rear passenger feet?

  • @yahiakhaiwi743

    @yahiakhaiwi743

    7 жыл бұрын

    misterOsc i didnt reach that part yet is it?

  • @ferhattje

    @ferhattje

    5 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @minecraft9037
    @minecraft90377 жыл бұрын

    Don't know what he is talking about! Interior looks great

  • @travisgoodwin7477

    @travisgoodwin7477

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is not the real scenic

  • @mihaildimitrov8275
    @mihaildimitrov82756 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the interior is boring

  • @flab3r
    @flab3r6 жыл бұрын

    One thing you can say for sure, french can design their cars. There are some crazy good looking Renault and Citroen cars.

  • @trombulan

    @trombulan

    26 күн бұрын

    You Sir, mean that a car should look like a Tefal Glide Iron?

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable5 жыл бұрын

    Really good looking cars that seem to be extremely practical. Well done Renault.

  • @vaclavkytka2731
    @vaclavkytka27317 жыл бұрын

    You know what you do the best out of all KZread car journalists? You make good length, high quality car reviews. And Mat Watson? You are the best. I love the channel and you produce so many videos! That is just brilliant. (my first comment on KZread in years.) Keep on doing this great work. (From Czech Republic.. :) )

  • @jochem1986
    @jochem19867 жыл бұрын

    The interior boring? That's like saying the interior of the NA MX-5 is boring... Honestly, what do you need besides comfy chairs and a good overview of basic functionality?

  • @shobin05

    @shobin05

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jochem Renault interiors are pretty bland tbh especially compared to Peugeot's interiors. Citroens interior also may not be the best quality wise but looks far more interesting and quirky.

  • @_mehdi_7528

    @_mehdi_7528

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bugatti is french

  • @senseihEnRY16
    @senseihEnRY167 жыл бұрын

    wow, the new Scenic looks really cool, deserve its place amongst some of the most handsome mpv in the world like honda Odyssey and KIA Sedona

  • @ScenesThroughTravels
    @ScenesThroughTravels7 жыл бұрын

    "If you've had a vasectomy after you're 3rd child" , Love it

  • @davidcooney4080

    @davidcooney4080

    7 жыл бұрын

    Cars On Tap m

  • @ThinkCleverAndSmart
    @ThinkCleverAndSmart7 жыл бұрын

    The music in this video was coming back again and again, which made it somewhat disturbing. But it was a great review! :)

  • @nikolaslabu3596
    @nikolaslabu35967 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations for 100.000 Subs!! Greetings from Germany

  • @jh5kl
    @jh5kl7 жыл бұрын

    we need skoda to do something for this segment

  • @Just_Mike64
    @Just_Mike647 жыл бұрын

    Love the looks of this car , I don't even need an mpv but might get one now !

  • @djhorlle6590
    @djhorlle65907 жыл бұрын

    You guys should have millions of subs, one of the greatest car channels of youtube

  • @MrStitty26
    @MrStitty267 жыл бұрын

    why get rid of the individual seats. that was one of the best parts. they come out as well to give a great amount of space. bad idea taking them away.

  • @ianpolo5673
    @ianpolo56737 жыл бұрын

    The glove compartment is huge because it is a LHD model. Will it be the same for RHD cars too? It is never understood why only French made cars still stubbornly refused to relocate the fuseboxes for RHD models to make the glove compartment the same size as LHD ones.

  • @livc44411
    @livc444117 жыл бұрын

    Excellent motor im sure! Shame Matt hates French cars, his reviews are always downbeat when it comes to those 😕

  • @muzzykara9336

    @muzzykara9336

    6 жыл бұрын

    livc44411 check his review in the Peugeot 3008. High praises for it

  • @PatOutdoorify

    @PatOutdoorify

    4 жыл бұрын

    indeed, why should there be always something wrong with french cars??

  • @RickyYTWLD
    @RickyYTWLD7 жыл бұрын

    Great review as always, Mat. One bit of feedback for you tho: the music was awful. Prefer the music in your usual reviews.

  • @mkoldewijn

    @mkoldewijn

    7 жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely right

  • @propanbutan4634
    @propanbutan46344 жыл бұрын

    This car is beautiful and the interior is perfect

  • @humzaaamir482
    @humzaaamir4827 жыл бұрын

    looks great, the scenic ain't bad either.

  • @theyruinedyoutubeagain

    @theyruinedyoutubeagain

    7 жыл бұрын

    Throwback to Rebecca jokes? :)

  • @humzaaamir482

    @humzaaamir482

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Andrei Simionescu :)

  • @matthewdollman9065
    @matthewdollman90657 жыл бұрын

    I think the interior looks very cool

  • @the-boring-car-guy
    @the-boring-car-guy7 жыл бұрын

    That gear shifter is unnecessarily large, just put a dial instead Renault

  • @adiththomas4045
    @adiththomas40457 жыл бұрын

    Great review, on of the more exciting MPVs on the market. Also, I think that Euro NCAP rating would be a good thing to mention in all reviews

  • @Lytinwheedle

    @Lytinwheedle

    7 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it 5* on all new cars, except some very cheap rubbish ones that don't bother optimising their vehicles to pass the test (and only the test).

  • @adiththomas4045

    @adiththomas4045

    7 жыл бұрын

    fair enough

  • @AnthonyMcBazooka

    @AnthonyMcBazooka

    7 жыл бұрын

    It isn't 5* on every new car because the last tests were double tests, one time with basic equipment and one time with full options. Only the new Scénic and the Subaru Levorg got 5* on both tests. So it's quite a thing for people who'd rather prefer to go for the basic version of a car.

  • @TrayzVidz
    @TrayzVidz7 жыл бұрын

    @ around 4:30 you made a mistake about the glove box size because that is not gonna be in the UK version, am I right Matt?

  • @nickyefimenko2843
    @nickyefimenko28435 жыл бұрын

    My grandpa has a JM Scenic, and it is a great car

  • @cansincan11
    @cansincan117 жыл бұрын

    Where is "thanks for watchin'" at the end?

  • @fallofdutee
    @fallofdutee7 жыл бұрын

    leather steering wheel only on the signature option? cup holders small and can't be used when console fully forward. the glove 'drawer' box has a narrow opening and the 60/40 split means moving two seats to access the back row. No full curtain airbags and it's 5* NCAP. Expensive too

  • @marius18br
    @marius18br6 жыл бұрын

    can you do a review on the renault talisman? thanks.

  • @PaulHojda
    @PaulHojda7 жыл бұрын

    Must say, it's really good looking

  • @bulentduran1303
    @bulentduran13037 жыл бұрын

    very good videos again.

  • @SebLoeb09Cars
    @SebLoeb09Cars7 жыл бұрын

    great great great i love this car :-) the gr. scenic is just nice and scenic is also :-) bravo Mat

  • @stuart6420
    @stuart64207 жыл бұрын

    Nice car but the 60/40 middle row seating is a bit of a step backwards, three independent seats are a much more flexible option for families.

  • @thinkpositive2393
    @thinkpositive23937 жыл бұрын

    Renault cars have come a long way in terms of reliability and looks. Excellent review Mat.

  • @wk5269
    @wk52697 жыл бұрын

    You don't mention about the size of trunk space - I find it's small for a 7 seater monovolume (the old scenic had great trunk space.

  • @Clocktoys
    @Clocktoys7 жыл бұрын

    The interior look is great to my eyes. It is annoying that the glove drawer isn't present in uk spec though. It also probably needs a more powerful petrol option than the 1.2 for the Grand version. I applaud Renault for caring about styling: these things matter every bit as much as prosaic functionality to people who can only afford one car. VW Touran gets praised by lazy journalists who'd never buy one for themselves in a million years, I suspect

  • @mustsilm
    @mustsilm7 жыл бұрын

    The interior style is minimalistic.

  • @mehimre9249
    @mehimre92496 жыл бұрын

    How much boot space do you lose in the grand version by configuring the car with Renault's Bose sound system?

  • @nickyefimenko2843
    @nickyefimenko28435 жыл бұрын

    Where is the old F4R 2.0 136 HP? A great NA, especially with a 5-speed manual

  • @andrejwalter8968
    @andrejwalter89686 жыл бұрын

    Can you in 2. Row make seats to fiferents angles?

  • @1985toyotacamry
    @1985toyotacamry7 жыл бұрын

    The Renault Scenic exterior looks weird but I love the way the interior look if it returns in the United States I would buy one the 5 seater

  • @stephen10.
    @stephen10.7 жыл бұрын

    i hope you had your surfboard for the beachs in south west of france .

  • @trentla7506
    @trentla75067 жыл бұрын

    do a mini countryman review please

  • @kara88bg
    @kara88bg7 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know how much more expensive are 20" tyres than lets say 17"? And does it make any sense to put 20" on a family car that was supposed to be somewhat economical?

  • @mrdaykurutakuchannel
    @mrdaykurutakuchannel5 жыл бұрын

    I wish us in indonesia has this within toyota innova price tag.

  • @sbomorse
    @sbomorse7 жыл бұрын

    The Grand looks better at the rear.

  • @berryfairy68
    @berryfairy687 жыл бұрын

    And of course we can't have it in the U.S 😐

  • @nishadshelar
    @nishadshelar7 жыл бұрын

    living in India, probably won't see this car here ever but watching Matt's reviews only cuz he's an awesome presenter! :)

  • @blingblingsam1490

    @blingblingsam1490

    7 жыл бұрын

    India is horrible country due to corruption and that's why you pay arm and leg for cars etc

  • @nishadshelar

    @nishadshelar

    7 жыл бұрын

    dafaq??

  • @marconelson1377
    @marconelson13772 жыл бұрын

    Very nice car, my relatives from Moldova have one.

  • @waynetan6359
    @waynetan63597 жыл бұрын

    why do the British hate the French?

  • @al3oqab128

    @al3oqab128

    7 жыл бұрын

    history between the two countries

  • @freepadz6241

    @freepadz6241

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wayne Tan cos jealousy. frogs are better by pretty much every measure.

  • @TanakaJulian

    @TanakaJulian

    6 жыл бұрын

    Homophobia.

  • @alinfin

    @alinfin

    6 жыл бұрын

    In cars, a British hates German cars more.

  • @fff340

    @fff340

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@freepadz6241 apart from winning wars

  • @gergelykondas7842
    @gergelykondas78427 жыл бұрын

    looks great

  • @kyojitsu1
    @kyojitsu17 жыл бұрын

    I kind of like it although compared to a Grand C4 it's a bit safe inside - better storage by the looks of it though. A 60:40 seat split in an MPV from the company that pretty much invented the idea of 3 separate 2 row seats? That's an odd design choice. Also annoying for people with 3 small kids and needing to fit car seats. I mean who else is this car for exactly?

  • @eld3176
    @eld31767 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate you have made a new jingle to punctuate your videos - and it's a nice jingle as far as jingles go - but 10 times? Really? Absolute jinglefest

  • @blingblingsam1490
    @blingblingsam14907 жыл бұрын

    Has more comforts in the back seat than a Lexus! Lexus take note

  • @xuchia117
    @xuchia1177 жыл бұрын

    Mercedes A class AMG 2016 review pleaseeee

  • @miskatonic6210
    @miskatonic62107 жыл бұрын

    Screen is painfully slow and they even programmed fancy unnessessary animations to make you wait longer and make it even unsafer to use. I would be annoyed every single day.

  • @dtse4777
    @dtse47777 жыл бұрын

    Great review, as always. I am very interested in the new Renault Megane GT, if you have a chance to review one it will be fantastic.

  • @davidcooney4080

    @davidcooney4080

    7 жыл бұрын

    D Mmmmmmmmmmm

  • @HITHEREFELLOWHUMAN
    @HITHEREFELLOWHUMAN7 жыл бұрын

    diesel is spelt wrongly in the description

  • @erik6554
    @erik65544 жыл бұрын

    please always show the indicators in the front early in the rev. if they are at the wrong side of the headlight the car are of no interest

  • @Matticitt
    @Matticitt7 жыл бұрын

    It's pretty ridiculous that you get lcd dials and 20" wheels as standard on this car, but you'd have to pay around 8000 pounds extra for those things in an Audi A4 or A6.

  • @pkishomenow
    @pkishomenow7 жыл бұрын

    20 Inch rims as standard!?!?

  • @dakar795
    @dakar795 Жыл бұрын

    Scenic (Grand) or S-max? What do You think?

  • @cmartin_ok
    @cmartin_ok7 жыл бұрын

    So there is a huge sliding glove box, just like the Captur... except that when Renault converted the car to right-hand drive, the glove box shrunk to the size of a medium jiffy bag. I suspect that the new Scenic will suffer the same problem. A tiny glove box in a family car is unacceptable. Also I had a first-gen Scenic and the seats folded individually and could be removed. The latest one shows that when the seats are folded down, you may have a flat load area but there's not much volume as the seats take up so much room. No car manufacturer seems to make a truly versatile MPV any more where the seats can be removed to create a small van

  • @dzonikg

    @dzonikg

    7 жыл бұрын

    i have scenic generation 2 and all seats can be removed completly in one minute

  • @kyojitsu1

    @kyojitsu1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Grand C4 Picasso is massive with all seats flat, over 2000 litres. I agree with you re the Scenic Mk 1 - ahead of it's time and very innovative. I had one for a little while - super cheap and still really practical.

  • @Akeso_ppp
    @Akeso_ppp2 жыл бұрын

    can you do video of 2023 car? :D

  • @tarkadal5563
    @tarkadal55636 ай бұрын

    I love how he describes the choice of car you should go for to be based on when you decide to get a vasectomy 😂

  • @369bogo
    @369bogo6 жыл бұрын

    The scenic is fantastic but i have 2 problems with it 1) too expensive and 2) that flat board in the middle where is the big 7 or 8 inch screen is kinda ugly I am a renault fan btw

  • @jeremycubs8331
    @jeremycubs83317 жыл бұрын

    Just made a big mistake for buying ford grand cmax, the new grand scenic is killing me it's so fxxking great.

  • @aamirmusa5650
    @aamirmusa56507 жыл бұрын

    review the new A class

  • @mercedes2336
    @mercedes23366 жыл бұрын

    You should review the Renault espace

  • @cmartin_ok

    @cmartin_ok

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is a UK channel and Renault don't sell the Espace here any more.... so no review

  • @haydenblueeyes7846
    @haydenblueeyes78465 жыл бұрын

    That's brilliant

  • @pugtato01
    @pugtato016 жыл бұрын

    Why get the grand scenic when you can get an espace

  • @theyruinedyoutubeagain
    @theyruinedyoutubeagain7 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, Mat. I must be a snob because I would never buy a French MPV for my kids. Touran/Sharan for the budget option (and really for a 5+ family they're all the car you'll ever need), or XC90/Model X in case I win the lotto. Or even the derpy yet lovable BMW X5 - actually, what do you think about it as a 7-seater?

  • @miskatonic6210

    @miskatonic6210

    7 жыл бұрын

    Touran/Sharan isn't exactly budget for millions of people with many children. Just saying.

  • @miskatonic6210

    @miskatonic6210

    7 жыл бұрын

    Touran/Sharan isn't exactly budget for millions of people with many children. Just saying.

  • @theyruinedyoutubeagain

    @theyruinedyoutubeagain

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Sirion definitely agreed, that's why I mentioned me being a snob. I own a Passat becausd the Sharan is so damn expensive.

  • @Sto79Be

    @Sto79Be

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least you’re self-aware I guess. No money sense, awful taste in boxy cars, but self-aware.

  • @mikkosrussos
    @mikkosrussos7 жыл бұрын

    Soooo tyres are gonna be expensive then.🤔

  • @MrRasalgethi
    @MrRasalgethi5 жыл бұрын

    Where is point number 4?

  • @nabillarif
    @nabillarif7 жыл бұрын

    absolutely love the practicality of it , not sure about the reliability though

  • @WJA79

    @WJA79

    2 жыл бұрын

    Driving this Grand Scenic for 4 years now… haven’t had the slightest problem

  • @enisemini2282

    @enisemini2282

    8 ай бұрын

    all cars have problems, but they are not the same for reliability, but this is human satisfaction, some like this and some like that, you don't need to say, I don't have reliability, they are all the same. only if you like them. .!!! at the end of the day, the car is known to be a car and nothing more.!

  • @turquoisecat761
    @turquoisecat7617 жыл бұрын

    The easter egg is a guide to France?? Looks ok, but too many electrics in a French car spells trouble!

  • @MrAronymous

    @MrAronymous

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oh you. Still partying like it's 2005, huh?

  • @Lookbusybuddy
    @Lookbusybuddy3 ай бұрын

    My choice would be a 7 seater purely for space. With the middle chairs removed can put ya feet up a cuppa after a long day walking

  • @anthonyperkins7556
    @anthonyperkins75565 жыл бұрын

    A good 7 seat MPV should be ideally capable of taking 7 adults in reasonable comfort and still have room for their things behind the third row. This Grand Scenic isn't worthy of that requirement, as it can't comfortably accommodate adults third row. When Renault first introduced the Grand Espace in Mk2 and Mk3 guise, it was perfectly capable of taking adults in third row and it still had good room for carrying things. Since the new model in 2003 and upwards, things haven't kept that to that essential practicality need in the Renault Grand Espace and Renault Grand Scenic which improved the Mk 2 and Mk 3 Grand Espace.

  • @mkoldewijn
    @mkoldewijn7 жыл бұрын

    1,2,3,5,5,6,7,8,9,10 lol

  • @carwow

    @carwow

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Matts Koldewijn ooops

  • @mkoldewijn

    @mkoldewijn

    7 жыл бұрын

    +carwow Ah well, things go wrong sometimes... Nice video though the music was frankly useless, sorry

  • @stephandolby

    @stephandolby

    7 жыл бұрын

    You can just pass it off as an homage to the Renault 5 and move on... ;)

  • @mkoldewijn

    @mkoldewijn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oooh but I wasn't hating! I just found it funny xD

  • @Neversettle0o
    @Neversettle0o7 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't care less about these cars, here for Mats reviews.

  • @TS-vj9dc
    @TS-vj9dc5 ай бұрын

    As if there weren’t enough electrical problems with Renault the folding rear seats join the list. And they will join the list.

  • @danhodgson8185
    @danhodgson81857 жыл бұрын

    Will you be doing a ford edge review at all?

  • @ahqhue

    @ahqhue

    7 жыл бұрын

    They don't sell that in Europe,-(googles) wait, they're selling that in Europe?

  • @danhodgson8185

    @danhodgson8185

    7 жыл бұрын

    They do it's been out for a bout a month or so👍🏻

  • @WinkelHoof

    @WinkelHoof

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Quinn Hue They do, test drove the edge this weekend ( in Sweden). 😀

  • @PIG8STUIPID
    @PIG8STUIPID4 жыл бұрын

    Renault Espace Initial Paris maybe?

  • @canaljoaodomine2420
    @canaljoaodomine24207 жыл бұрын

    Algum Brasileiro que queria essa scenic aqui ou só eu ...

  • @soren-1184
    @soren-11848 ай бұрын

    What is this galleon thing? Give us SI

  • @yahiakhaiwi743
    @yahiakhaiwi7437 жыл бұрын

    our can is the 97 one

  • @guylocal6423
    @guylocal64234 жыл бұрын

    Also,you cant take seats of anymore

  • @detective3728
    @detective37287 жыл бұрын

    Or wait for the up coming faceliftet Opel Zafira 1,6 Biturbo diesel..

  • @Guru0Pitka

    @Guru0Pitka

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've heard it's going to be a scorching proposition

  • @NicholasLettevanOostvoorne

    @NicholasLettevanOostvoorne

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Vauxhall's really on fire these days…

  • @nvc.
    @nvc.6 жыл бұрын

    Whats wrong with Renault gearboxes??

  • @cmartin_ok
    @cmartin_ok7 жыл бұрын

    Easy in usual Renault fashion, right hand drive models have a tiny glove box into which you can just about fit a couple of packets of crisps. For a family car this is not good enough

  • @RetroGamerVX
    @RetroGamerVX7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, not bad looking, shame about the interior being so dull. That incidental music between sections comes across as cheesy and is annoyingly repetitive :o(

  • @nelc2399
    @nelc23994 жыл бұрын

    I heard renault cars are not reliable and parts are not always in stock by agent, may need to wait long period for parts ordering too.

  • @WJA79

    @WJA79

    2 жыл бұрын

    Driving my Grand Scenic now for 4 years, never had the slightest issue/problem ☺️

  • @uku7883
    @uku78837 жыл бұрын

    I like it

  • @TheDominik71
    @TheDominik716 жыл бұрын

    Grand Scenic or Grand Picasso?

  • @n.s.5278

    @n.s.5278

    3 жыл бұрын

    Verso

  • @trefod
    @trefod7 жыл бұрын

    In a few car generations we'll be back to the buggy wheels of horse drawn carriages. Huge rims with elastic band tyres just doesn't appeal to me.

  • @Guru0Pitka

    @Guru0Pitka

    7 жыл бұрын

    the wheel size is 195/55/20 so not that bad...

  • @lewiscomeaux2923
    @lewiscomeaux29237 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @eggbirdtherooster
    @eggbirdtherooster7 жыл бұрын

    20 inch rims.. 500 euro per tire i think? Pointless!

  • @stephen10.

    @stephen10.

    7 жыл бұрын

    no Michelin makes special tyres 20 inch for scenic cheaper. renault has a deal with michelin .

  • @Sherukka

    @Sherukka

    7 жыл бұрын

    +stephen10 Also Conti which I think these cars have when you buy them, not Michelin.

  • @stephen10.

    @stephen10.

    7 жыл бұрын

    now each tyres brands will make a special tyre "20 inch" cheap for this scenic...

  • @AnthonyMcBazooka

    @AnthonyMcBazooka

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, 130 € per tire.

  • @MustangGT2142

    @MustangGT2142

    7 жыл бұрын

    tyres are 195/55/20 and yes they are around 130 €, not that bad, but still the choice of tyres are very limited.

  • @e-mona3at570
    @e-mona3at5707 жыл бұрын

    good car

  • @no-oneman.4140
    @no-oneman.41405 жыл бұрын

    Come on Matt, you're always going on about French car makers not being bothered to move the fuse box over for RHD cars so showing how great this glovebox is on a LHD car is pointless because it sure as hell isn't what RHD cars offer !

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