Removing the old hot water tank (1920's Renovation Part 13)

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I need to remove the old hot water cylinder and header tank from the loft. It’s no longer required since we’ll have a combi boiler. In this video I’ll show you my approach to removing a hot water tank. This was filmed back in February so hence the snow!
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  • @ANNA-bq9yy
    @ANNA-bq9yy3 жыл бұрын

    Missing Scene. Just love that creativity!!

  • @artofcode

    @artofcode

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's the best part :D

  • @C4sp3r123
    @C4sp3r1233 жыл бұрын

    Enjoying the series. My top tip past to me by my old man when I renovated my house was to take off all the internal doors when you start and store them in one room or chuck them. Saves opening and closing and dealing with doors when moving things around. It made life a lot easier and looks like it would for you to going off this video. Looking forward to the next installment, at least the weather is improving now and longer days with the clocks changing today.

  • @grahameburnip5880

    @grahameburnip5880

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beat me to it, felt like Michael Cain in the Italian Job, “blow the bloody doors off”

  • @marcelobodhi1692

    @marcelobodhi1692

    2 жыл бұрын

    instaBlaster...

  • @jonathanInLondonUK
    @jonathanInLondonUK3 жыл бұрын

    Took out a cylinder in the Thames Valley. The limescale was two inches thick and it took two of us to carry the tank. Oh, and the bottom boss came away with just a nudge - the copper had been eaten away. I was heart-in-mouth seeing you bending the plastic pipe attached to the bottom boss with 120 litres of water above the joint.

  • @greenmanreddog
    @greenmanreddog3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Andy. A 'top tip' alternative to emtpy a hot water tank is to take the immersion heater out, stick a hosepipe in all the way to the bottom, and secure it with a clamp or cable ties. Take the other end out in to the garden and give it a good suck to get a syphon started... It'll empty very quickly with a 3m head. You can do the same with header tanks too if you wish.

  • @johnthompson3462
    @johnthompson34623 жыл бұрын

    Thought I was the only one that had to make five trips back and forward for forgotten tools LOL That is why I have 6 tapes around

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I spend more time wandering around the house forgetting what I'm even looking for. 🤣

  • @TomTomTomTom538

    @TomTomTomTom538

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man that is so exhausting! We are at the point in our renovation where all the tools have been moved to the garage. One day I'm going to get a few different job specific toolboxes lol

  • @highpath4776

    @highpath4776

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman Or Six Tapes, All in the same place.

  • @rontanser9369
    @rontanser93693 жыл бұрын

    I’m super impressed with the amount of installation in the property I’m a big believer in the more you insulate the warmer the place will be

  • @Ragnar8504

    @Ragnar8504

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yet (as we can see in another video) there's absolutely zero insulation underneath the floor boards on the ground floor. Cold feet guaranteed.

  • @Zephieish
    @Zephieish3 жыл бұрын

    Be awesome to see a video of you taking a house worth of renovation scrap down to the yard, see what you can make then buy something for the house with the money. That's if you've kept hold of everything :)

  • @holmesjunction
    @holmesjunction3 жыл бұрын

    'Tried to shift it, couldn't even lift it'....... 'have to take the door off, that there door is gonna have to go'..... Where was your cup of tea? Appologies to Bernard Cribbens and his piano.

  • @ralphtaylor5328
    @ralphtaylor53288 ай бұрын

    With the push for air source heat pump you might be glad of the space for a hot water tank!

  • @jonathanleonard1152
    @jonathanleonard11523 жыл бұрын

    Turning around on the ladder while handling the tank was interesting to watch!

  • @lightmechanic2370
    @lightmechanic23703 жыл бұрын

    Spinning around looking for tools. LOL. I'm fairly certain I spend as much time doing that as doing the task. Great vid. Enjoyed the recovery from the lost footage, too!

  • @arlynsmith9196
    @arlynsmith91963 жыл бұрын

    I am in the US and enjoyed the video, but have never seen that kind of unhappiness as far as a gravity filled water heater. I simply cannot imagine. Good grief.

  • @mattmckay8565
    @mattmckay85653 жыл бұрын

    Right said fred, 'av to take the door off' one each end and steady as we gooo....

  • @mandyleeson1
    @mandyleeson13 жыл бұрын

    Love the music choice for the lost footage.. Thanks for sharing Andy🙏🏻

  • @benevans3733
    @benevans37333 жыл бұрын

    Hope you are staying safe and well and hope you have a good weekend and another brilliant video as always

  • @FearsomeWarrior
    @FearsomeWarrior3 жыл бұрын

    That green door on the back of the garage looks great from 10 meters. Love the color and style. Looks good up close too.

  • @newimagepropreplicas9863
    @newimagepropreplicas98633 жыл бұрын

    Great channel..love your videos and how you do things...i am currently renovating our house and i do all the work myself...just fitting our new kitchen after i have plastered all the walls and ceiling..its great to see someone else with the enthusiasm to try things out and always ready for the next challenge..reminds me a lot of me :)

  • @daviddickson7494
    @daviddickson74943 жыл бұрын

    Great work. I’m on the same journey with a 1930’s house in France 🇫🇷 . Loads of things to think about.

  • @KendalSmithy
    @KendalSmithy3 жыл бұрын

    I'd have used a long hose pipe and syphoned the contents of both tanks down the stairs and out of the front door. Job done. The difference between plumbers and handymen is that two plumbers working together will do that job in about 15 minutes flat, whereas you and I can take all morning.

  • @HMSSfrigate12
    @HMSSfrigate123 жыл бұрын

    good job again Andy

  • @simonboyers4917
    @simonboyers49173 жыл бұрын

    Long awaited, yet totally worthwile video. I'm in this for the long-haul.

  • @theoriginalbluey
    @theoriginalbluey Жыл бұрын

    Great informative video. The JAVAC pipe cutters are good, I can recommend.

  • @stomperthemixer1
    @stomperthemixer13 жыл бұрын

    Great vlog buddy and you did very well with only one pair of hand, hope you and yours are keeping well. stay safe.

  • @colinmottram4429
    @colinmottram44293 жыл бұрын

    Nice one, Andy! Might be worth mentioning that some older loft tanks might have an asbestos lining. I'm in the process of selling my house and the surveyor advised that the redundant tank in my loft was asbestos lined - if we weren't moving I had considered chopping up and removing the old tank to give more loft storage...a hard nope now!

  • @raydriver7300
    @raydriver73003 жыл бұрын

    Interesting as always, Andy. Stay safe

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers, and you! 👍

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse83853 жыл бұрын

    Tanks for another great video 😉

  • @pzycoman
    @pzycoman3 жыл бұрын

    I just hoicked a cheapo wetvac into the loft to clean out the header tank before changing it, was alot easier than risking getting an unwanted shower...

  • @benevans3733
    @benevans37333 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andy congratulations on reaching 154,000 subscribers and well done with all your hard work on the house so fair and well done with all your hard work with the videos as well

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Ben! 👍👍

  • @Zel0978
    @Zel09783 жыл бұрын

    Love the improv scenes - top job!

  • @cuebj
    @cuebj3 жыл бұрын

    I've put hose in top and siphoned off to drain outside. Gets almost everything out. Have also used small drill pump with the hose

  • @grahameburnip5880
    @grahameburnip58803 жыл бұрын

    I did a lot of the work you are doing now in the street behind you (facing the burn number 24) in 1980’s. The houses are solid and pretty easy to work on. Watch out for rotten ends to the timber joists on the ground floor. I built a conservatory on the back of mine, a number of the joists had rot on the ends, I just sistered new ones on from the conservatory side. I think the damp proofing in some parts was compromised. I also had the walls insulated, there is a cavity, you can tell there is a cavity by looking at the brickwork, it’s all stretcher course, which is a good indication of a cavity. I like your use of ‘road’ “In any road” or “in the road”. I wonder how many of your subscribers understand the different use of the word, or what it means. Had 20 happy years there, both sons born and brought up there, I’ve told them about the renovation and to watch it, so they can appreciate what their dad went through😂. I looked at a house where you are and tried to buy it for the same reason, the back garden, but was beaten to it by a cash buyer.

  • @haydenuk02
    @haydenuk023 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @haydenuk02

    @haydenuk02

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman Your very welcome

  • @andrewclarkehomeimprovement
    @andrewclarkehomeimprovement3 жыл бұрын

    Rock wool/fibreglass insulation. If I'm in a loft for any amount of time, I'll make up a very weak solution of PVA in a garden sprayer and spray the stuff down. Not to soak it but to 'set' the dust and loose fibres. Get yourself a drill powered pump and a couple of short lengths of hose. Ideal for this, toilet cisterns, bowls etc.

  • @sircompo

    @sircompo

    2 жыл бұрын

    That PVA tip is brilliant - thanks Andrew.

  • @bandk2000
    @bandk20003 жыл бұрын

    The pipe cutter should be turned so that the wheel follows the two guide pins, not the way round you were doing it. That way it only cuts once instead of cutting a 'thread'

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's crap - it doesn't work whatever way you turn it. 🤣

  • @robgullen

    @robgullen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I find that you need to wind the knob up when you start so that the cutting wheel is really biting into the pipe - then the first revolution cuts all the way round rather than winding along the pipe and creating a "thread" - whatever, pipe cutters are waaaay better than a hacksaw!

  • @grahameburnip5880

    @grahameburnip5880

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve put an arrow on mine pointing the way to turn the pipe slice.

  • @benevans3733
    @benevans37333 жыл бұрын

    Well done with getting the water tank out of the loft without spilling then water

  • @cjhification
    @cjhification3 жыл бұрын

    So glad you bought a new house.

  • @frankjackson8
    @frankjackson83 жыл бұрын

    Andy, you asked if we had any questions. Well, here's my question. "Can we expect any more Test Tuesdays before the next Millennium ?"

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha might be a while yet! Half the rig is still packed. 🤣

  • @rt-viz954
    @rt-viz9543 жыл бұрын

    reminds me of summer 2020, when I helped re-do the bathroom. Having to saw through old thick lead pipes in awkward angles was not fun

  • @TheFirefighter56
    @TheFirefighter563 жыл бұрын

    The loft ladder looks like it's had better days. Nice vid bye the way.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just a step ladder 👍

  • @gordonhumphris5420
    @gordonhumphris54203 жыл бұрын

    I did notice when using the mini pipe cutter you were using it the wrong way. They cut clockwise or the rollers follow the cutting wheel. But really enjoying this renovation. More videos please.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers! This cutter never works - whatever way you turn it it does the same.

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye3 жыл бұрын

    The open header tank explains why so many showers have a very weak flow in the UK, I have never seen these in the Netherlands. None such as a rain shower with these open header tanks, a gravity fed system gives you just 0.1 bar of pressure for each meter the tank is above a tap/shower head. In the video the tank is 1.5 meter above the shower head at best, so that's a meager 0.15 bar of pressure Getting hot water directly from a combi boiler will give you a much better flow rate. A combi boiler will feed your hot water supply with 2.5-3.0 bar, that's 20x as much as the tank in the example of the shower. A combi boiler also has at least twice the heating power as the electric shower (why a hot water tank AND an electric shower?)

  • @lynboxer2920
    @lynboxer29203 жыл бұрын

    Love this series! When will #14 be ready?

  • @davidroth7586
    @davidroth75863 жыл бұрын

    Good old scrap run is called for now mate haha

  • @paulmedland6697
    @paulmedland66973 жыл бұрын

    When I was working as a plumber draining a hot cylinder. A length of 15mm copper pipe long enough to reach the bottom of the cylinder with about 100mm of pipe clear of the top of the cylinder and a hose connected to the pipe and the hose long enough to where you want the water to drain and just syphon the water out.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup - great tip! 👍

  • @jlmfoy365
    @jlmfoy3653 жыл бұрын

    I feel a weigh in coming on pal. Pretty good prices at the moment I think. Regards Jim.

  • @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel
    @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel3 жыл бұрын

    Tyvek suit, gloves and mask or even some kind of respirator. The dust and pollution in a loft in the UK is the thing of horrors, and that Rockwool is very unforgiving stuff. Plus the potential risk of Legionella in an old gravity fed tank and pipework, especially in such an old house. Always better to be safe than sorry, Andy ;)

  • @hughtattersall7583
    @hughtattersall75833 жыл бұрын

    All the stuff in the tank came through the mains!

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    True, plus some added nasties from the loft

  • @jakematic
    @jakematic3 жыл бұрын

    Header tanks... and you lot say we’re backward 😂😂 Going to be a really beautiful house mate :^)

  • @tomstovell7425
    @tomstovell74253 жыл бұрын

    I remember wrestling the cylinder out in our place. Nightmare! Had a drain off valve 2mm from the floor!!

  • @stephendacey4916
    @stephendacey49162 жыл бұрын

    Nice video makes it look so easy. What happens to the flow and return from the water tank and header, are they just connected together or are they blanked off.

  • @awantamta
    @awantamta3 жыл бұрын

    A big job but well done

  • @drhmufti
    @drhmufti3 жыл бұрын

    Rothenberger pipe slicers are worth it.

  • @BenCos2018
    @BenCos20183 жыл бұрын

    haha pipe cutters always catch me out also I remeber having to use them on a course I did....managed to perfectly flatten the inside of the pipe somehow lmao

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol yeah, I should really invest in a decent 22mm cutter... but rarely use copper these days and I'm too tight.

  • @BenCos2018

    @BenCos2018

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman haha same

  • @Welsh_RareBitt

    @Welsh_RareBitt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I was told by a plumber to always try to turn the pipe cutter towards its open throat. More control and you can force it to stay at one height. An tighten the adjuster as you turn, in small steps.

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes49833 жыл бұрын

    You should take a couple of plastic sacks with you each time you go into the loft and scoop up some of that insulation for ditching- you’d have it near cleared by now.😉

  • @MegaBambooboy
    @MegaBambooboy3 жыл бұрын

    For the future just drain via a hot tap, crack the top joint on the cylinder (should only have a dribble left) pop a hose in and Syphon it out. May get a mouthful of limescale though.

  • @johannes.f.r.
    @johannes.f.r.3 жыл бұрын

    Lots of potential entertainment avoided. Well done.

  • @ianbrooks6816
    @ianbrooks68163 жыл бұрын

    On a project like this I’d suggest you buy a Wickes wet n dry vac at about £50 and a pair of rotary pipe cutters at about £20 from a plumbing merchant. Stay well, Ian B

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse83853 жыл бұрын

    When I was having Central Heating fitted, I stipulated that the immersion was to be retained for emergency use, the heating engineers were not impressed and had to fit additional valves to isolate boiler water from the immersion water. It paid off as my boiler broke down a few times but I was never without hot water.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that's the one benefit of a cylinder. 👍😁

  • @spencerwilton5831

    @spencerwilton5831

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that's anything unusual. In fact, every system I have ever seen with stored hot water (as opposed to a combi boiler) has a backup immersion heater. No additional valves are required- the cylinder is heated by a coil, which keeps the heating circuit separate from the stored hot water, and an immersion heater is installed in the cylinder to heat the stored water directly if required. I would go so far as to say a gas heated system complete with cylinder but without a backup immersion is unusual.

  • @withoutthinking3703
    @withoutthinking37033 жыл бұрын

    To stop it threading you don’t do it super tight and you don’t keep going round just back and forth until you have a good cut 😉 first thing you learn as a fridge installer

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's terrible that cutter as it's not spring loaded so you have to keep tightening it as you cut. I should really invest in a better one. 😁

  • @negotiableaffections

    @negotiableaffections

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks for that tip [from me] as I've always had hit and miss results with my cutter. thankyou

  • @lesjames5191
    @lesjames51913 жыл бұрын

    Andy, would you advise having the inside of the roof insulated.

  • @roymichaeldeanable
    @roymichaeldeanable3 жыл бұрын

    Looking at all that insulation under the roof, and owning a 1911 house with original slates only and no ashfelt under, I prefer mine

  • @sambishop3211
    @sambishop32113 жыл бұрын

    Love the notion of someone coming across one of the videos in this series in the KZread wild and thinking “13 videos to remove a bloody hot water tank?!” That gets them to click on the video/playlist... Very shrewd Andy, you’re playing chess while other creators are playing draughts, ha.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol... I think that every time I publish a video in this series. Wait until it's "Changing a lightbulb... part 523" 🤣👍

  • @sambishop3211

    @sambishop3211

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I like to think that video would be part of your “Dad Dancing” playlist. Look out Bollywood. 😂

  • @monabale8263
    @monabale82633 жыл бұрын

    7:56; excellent choice on incidental music. lol...

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Appropriate. 😁

  • @ianfinch1522
    @ianfinch15223 жыл бұрын

    A simple job made a little harder in that the previous diy fit from the look of it 😂 didn’t fit a drain off which is essential for replacement of the elements.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Believe it or not this was a pro install as part of their bathroom renovation about 5 years ago. Lots of shoddy work. 🙄👍

  • @ianfinch1522

    @ianfinch1522

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I see it all the time diy guy becomes a plumber/ bathroom and kitchen fitter it normally ends in water pouring though the ceiling at some point.

  • @dhammer5645
    @dhammer56453 жыл бұрын

    What is that white fluffy stuff on the ground out side the green door? As a Canadian I'm not familiar with it!🤣

  • @stuartarnold9444

    @stuartarnold9444

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's insulation for the grass in the winter.

  • @dhammer5645

    @dhammer5645

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stuartarnold9444 so kinds like a protective film.😉

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha it's pretty rare over here! Had our first decent snowfall over here in about 10 years (a lot more fell after that). Had the sledges out and everything! 🤣👍

  • @tomsimpson3322
    @tomsimpson33223 жыл бұрын

    Always a great watch Andy. Your sense of humor combined with your enthusiasm for doing this renovation is a must watch

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers bud! 😁

  • @readysetsleep
    @readysetsleep2 жыл бұрын

    17:33 That Green tank is copper? Did get paid well for it at the scrap yard?

  • @peterg.8245
    @peterg.82453 жыл бұрын

    Another North American marveling at technology from when my neighborhood was still a cattle ranch. (Perryman Ranch once spanned 250,000 acres and now the last 80 is being turned into a new neighborhood.) Just replace my homes 75gal(284L) with a condensing tankless heater. It’s super awesome to not run out of hot water. 👍🏻 75gal tank is much larger than average and I don’t know the story of the owners previous to the man we purchased.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's a big tank! I love tankless. We call that a condensing combi-boiler over here and they're awesome. 👍

  • @spencerwilton5831

    @spencerwilton5831

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gosforth Handyman You won't be saying that when it inevitably fails days before Christmas leaving you with no hot water and no backup! Combi boilers are awful things, they waste water and last nowhere near as long as a heat only boiler. They are susceptible to scale and more sensitive to a dirty system. There is a reason good builders are returning to stored hot water systems for family homes.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lived with both for many years. Each to their own but I wouldn't have unvented again if you paid me.

  • @dmel2001
    @dmel20013 жыл бұрын

    Fairly certain you were fairly certain throughout this video. Fairly certain I left a like too 👍

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fairly certain I'll thank you for the like. 👍😁

  • @lightmechanic2370

    @lightmechanic2370

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm fairly certain you are correct.

  • @neilsmith5166
    @neilsmith51663 жыл бұрын

    Hi, quick question if possible. What do you do with the old tank, are they and the Cooper pipe worth anything for the amount you have or is it easier just skipping them? Keep up the good work. Thanks Neil

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm kind to the local scrap man, but yes copper prices are good at the minute!

  • @tommiller1315
    @tommiller13153 жыл бұрын

    Get the scrap / recycle value for your tank! Over £30 if your lucky. Of course you may reuse it yourself although I expect you will have a combi boiler instead.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm very kind to the local scrap man. 😁

  • @joetipton8681
    @joetipton86813 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video. Could you answer a question for me. You know when you cut the cold water supply that feeds the reservoir, before it goes down into the hot water tank, do you put a stop end on that because when you turn the water on you will basically have a fountain in your loft if you don’t?? I just didn’t hear you mention that you did that, but I presume that’s what you do? Thanks in advance and again, thanks for the awesome videos.

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers993 жыл бұрын

    A gravity-feed hot water system wouldn't give you much pressure to a shower head, but I'm sure they had a reason for doing it that way. Perhaps the original installation was just for filling a bath, and pressure wouldn't matter as much for that. Our needs and wants have change quite a bit since that house was built!

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    They had a separate electric shower so this was only supplying the basin the bathroom and the kitchen sink. The piping is still in place from the old back boiler too! 😁👍

  • @nickbea3443

    @nickbea3443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Our whole estate had gravity systems installed and that was in the late 1990's. One bathroom shower was a pumped electric, the other a gravity mixer which soon got changed. The plumber who put in that plastic tank wasn't familiar with the Water Regs.

  • @girlsdrinkfeck

    @girlsdrinkfeck

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nickbea3443 best shower I used was a electric pumped power shower

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Electric pumped are good but they drain the hot water tank VERY quickly!

  • @michaelevans1658
    @michaelevans16583 жыл бұрын

    Andy does that foam roof insulation make the roof sweat?

  • @nickcollins7568
    @nickcollins75683 жыл бұрын

    I find the best way to drain cylinder is to stick a hosepipe in top connection of cylinder and then siphon water out if original plumber has not fitted a drain valve at bottom of cold inlet

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good tip! 👍

  • @nickcollins7568

    @nickcollins7568

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman Jumbo car wash sponge and bucket for removing dregs of water from cold water tanks

  • @katmusswoodwind
    @katmusswoodwind2 жыл бұрын

    are these lofts any ood for conversions? I don't mean into rooms, but more for storage of Christmas stuff?

  • @raychambers3646
    @raychambers36463 жыл бұрын

    If there is no water in the tank sometimes you can fold them.

  • @robthewaywardwoodworker9956
    @robthewaywardwoodworker99563 жыл бұрын

    That is one odd set up (from a North American viewpoint). Gravity feed hot water? Isn't that from the late 9th century? LOL And you seem to have an affinity toward cutting rather than uncoupling. I guess a saw is as good as a "spanner"? Love seeing the progress, Andy. Keep plugging away! Best of luck and enjoy your weekend (yeah, I'm working too).

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers bud! Yeah, systems like this are very common in the UK... although now it's mostly either unvented systems or combi-boilers (hot water on demand).

  • @robthewaywardwoodworker9956

    @robthewaywardwoodworker9956

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I love how differently people create systems all around the world. Construction is so fascinating. I guess that's why it's my life. Cheers.

  • @Ragnar8504

    @Ragnar8504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman I definitely couldn't help but chuckle when I heard some Americans talk about that new-fangled combined boiler and water heater that's mounted on the wall... combi boilers have been all the rage in cities since the early 70s in central Europe. Oh and that new American discovery, the tankless water heater - they were invented in something like 1880 and have been popular here since before WWI.

  • @E55elte
    @E55elte3 жыл бұрын

    Someone can correct me but the disgusting water from the header is from the heating system and goes through a heat exchanger in the hot water tank. The clean water from the hot water tank is what you have a shower in. If I'm wrong, I've been having Fernox showers! Interesting video as always, Andy.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    This house doesn't have central heating. Normally you'd have a separate header for the radiators. So yeah, you should be safe from the Fernox. 👍😬

  • @GotMoreCakes

    @GotMoreCakes

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have what James has, two large tanks in loft, one for central heating the other for hot water, and for some reason a smaller tank above the cylinder in the cupboard. Haven’t worked that one out yet, maybe something to do with the pump?

  • @Rammaldinho
    @Rammaldinho2 жыл бұрын

    Question for those who’ve done this - DIY doable for someone with moderate skill? Guessing will need a spark to disconnect then just rip out as per video? One question in my case would be how can I then retain the cold water supply - as I’ll have a gap between removal and refit of new combi.

  • @andrewbeaumont5492
    @andrewbeaumont54923 жыл бұрын

    The best way to empty a cylinder is to syphon the water out. Put a short piece ( 150 mm) of 15 mm copper pipe into a garden hose then put the pipe into the cylinder via the top connection until it taps on the bottom. Run the hose to a drain point lower than the cylinder bottom and suck the end of the hose. Be careful, you don't want a mouthful of water & debris from the cylinder, so a big suck for 5 - 10 seconds is all you need. Don't let the hose kink shut either as that will make sucking more difficult. Once started the syphon effect will continue, so you need to wait for 20 seconds or so after sucking for the water to arrive at the hose end. This will empty the cylinder so it is light & easy to move. You can stuff kitchen roll in the cylinder connections to prevent dirty drips if there is a nice carpet between cylinder & door. And yes, I'm a plumber.

  • @Reverend-Rodger
    @Reverend-Rodger3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure it's been said but next time take out the top immersion and stick a hose in there or knock a hole in the top with an old screwdriver/chisel. I used to do about 2 of these a week takes about 15 mins once you have done them a few times. The real trick is getting them out of the house without dropping sludge all over the customers carpets.

  • @drhmufti
    @drhmufti3 жыл бұрын

    Get an evolution saw, i cut a redundant metal header tank into two and took it out the loft with ease.

  • @westwonic

    @westwonic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could you please specify which saw you used? I thought a small grinder would do the job, but am very concerned about sparks in the loft.

  • @Porthcothen
    @Porthcothen3 жыл бұрын

    Save all the old pipes and cylinder and cash in at the scrap metal place when you're finished the whole house!

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    If there was lots of lead I would but I'm keeping the local scrap man in business. 😁

  • @Porthcothen

    @Porthcothen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman you might be surprised at how much lead pipe there is under the floor don't forget the pipes going to the fire and possibly in walls for old town gas lighting.it all adds up.

  • @porridge99
    @porridge992 жыл бұрын

    Honest question as I don't live in the UK...why do you need both a hot water tank and an electric hot water unit in the shower? (I refer to the think you can see in the shower at 16:17, I assume it's one of those electrical units where the water gets heated instantly as it passes through) Thank you

  • @JustLikeBuildingThings
    @JustLikeBuildingThings3 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered sticking an unvented back in? Showers will be amazing quality with the water pressure you had.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, we'd also run out of hot water very quickly. Been there, done that, never again. 👍

  • @spencerwilton5831

    @spencerwilton5831

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gosforth Handyman A well designed and specified pressurised system means endless hot water. You just need to choose your tank, coil and boiler size properly. They are infinitely better than a combi. You can also fit a sensibly sized boiler, instead of having to use a 35kw combi to run perhaps five kw of heating demand.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eh? How's it endless hot water? Once the tank is empty you have to wait several hours for it to reheat.

  • @Ragnar8504

    @Ragnar8504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman My parents have got a 100 l pressurised tank connected to the gas boiler and it takes less than 10 minutes to re-heat to 45C. I still wouldn't call that endless hot water though.

  • @BarcroftLaboratories
    @BarcroftLaboratories3 жыл бұрын

    Just seeing you keep going in an out to get things, why didn't you take the doors of the airing cupboard/bathroom first?

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because I didn't know it wouldn't fit. 🤣👍

  • @williammcrae3177
    @williammcrae31773 жыл бұрын

    What is the water pressure coming into the house that you need a header tank? At my North American home it’s typically 50-60psi however I discovered in my newest home I have 100-110psi yikes!

  • @MegaBambooboy

    @MegaBambooboy

    3 жыл бұрын

    You've gone from about 3 bar to 6bar. Don't know what equipment you have over the pond but I'd think about getting that reduced. I worked on a whole new estate located right next to a pumping station each house hit 8bar..... Cisterns were popping constantly.

  • @aaronbell8527
    @aaronbell85273 жыл бұрын

    Don’t leave the copper Cylinder out side it will get pinched

  • @grahameburnip5880

    @grahameburnip5880

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is Gosforth, there are no thieves in Gosforth😂

  • @aaronbell8527

    @aaronbell8527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grahameburnip5880 😂😂 get about 80 pun for them that al feed a family of 10

  • @roberthardy2013
    @roberthardy20132 жыл бұрын

    Get some ratchet plastic pipe cutters, much quicker than a hacksaw and easier access.

  • @NomenNescio99
    @NomenNescio993 жыл бұрын

    When you say bucket, I think of Mr Creosote from Monty Python.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @Rulebritania25
    @Rulebritania252 жыл бұрын

    Where did the overflow end up going?

  • @martenveldthuis
    @martenveldthuis3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, quick comment: the small notes you put at the bottom of the screen often end up underneath the closed captions and can't really be read if you have those turned on. Would it be possible to move your notes somewhere, dunno at the top maybe?

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed closed captions works with my accent - I dread to think what it says 🤣😉

  • @martenveldthuis

    @martenveldthuis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman mostly it's fine actually, certainly no worse than other automatic transcriptions. My spouse and I watch together during lunch or dinner, and CC means we can say things to each other and not miss anything.

  • @LostWhits

    @LostWhits

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have loud children so Closed Captioning is a must. I don't find too many problems in translation even with a northern accent. But Cornish was interesting. Kiwi is a laugh sometimes too.

  • @alanrobins
    @alanrobins3 жыл бұрын

    When that cylinder was fitted they missed out the drain point at the btm of the feed

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, they missed many things out. Glad it was a plastic pipe!

  • @ianbird4737

    @ianbird4737

    3 жыл бұрын

    And why is it that hot water cylinders always seem to be installed with the cold water entry at the back of the cupboard in the most inaccessible corner?

  • @freetolook3727
    @freetolook37273 жыл бұрын

    What a strange system. So, water goes into the attic, then drains into the cellar to the hot water heater? Why not just have water go directly to hot water heater like a normal system??

  • @buddythompson5284
    @buddythompson52843 жыл бұрын

    13 parts into this series and I just now clued into this house being a semi-detached unit. So how does one deal with an owner of the adjoining property not keeping his property in good order? Are there ordinances protecting owners of semi-detached properties from the adjoining owner's neglect of his property? Also, do you need the adjoining property owner's approval for any of the renovations you are doing?

  • @grahameburnip5880

    @grahameburnip5880

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not for the changes inside, but it’s a good idea to make friends with neighbours, and let them know what you’re planning on doing, the times you’ll be working and if they have any concerns about noise, parking etc. He may not need planning permission but that depends on the size and number of floors. If plans are submitted, then the neighbours would be advised and have the opportunity to comment. Comments could be to support or object. I think the local authority also put up notices in the area just so people are aware of the changes. Plans are available to look at online. But as I say it may not need planning permission, the neighbours look like they have had the same work done, so it would be difficult to object.

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover41333 жыл бұрын

    Interesting differences between US and UK building But Why a vented system? I’m a HVAC&R contractor and still occasionally have a tubing cutter thread on me

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vented systems like this are really common in older UK houses unfortunately. Not sure why to be honest! Someone more knowledgeable than me will know. 😁

  • @Frelon615

    @Frelon615

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman If a bomb dropped locally during the War all water supplies were cut. With a CWST (Cold Water Storage Tank - not header tank!) there was always a limited supply of water in your house, just right for that essential cup of tea!

  • @kostasdervos1093
    @kostasdervos10933 жыл бұрын

    I m not familiar with this kind of system. How does the hot water flow to the various taps, is it pressurized somehow?

  • @stuartarnold9444

    @stuartarnold9444

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gravity fed. The header tank in the loft gives the pressure to the taps on the floors below.

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, as Stuart says - just gravity. It's rubbish but very common in the UK.

  • @trendykennel
    @trendykennel3 жыл бұрын

    Almost asmr with the missing footage, it made it more interesting to be honest!

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha cheers! I was gutted. Stupid GoPro. 🤣

  • @bobdonkin9804
    @bobdonkin98043 жыл бұрын

    Looks like you have spray on insulation in the loft,did the surveyor give you any trouble when you purchased the house I've found they don't seem to like the fact that they can't see the underside of the tiles

  • @GosforthHandyman

    @GosforthHandyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's sarking behind the foam so you wouldn't see the tiles anyway. 👍

  • @bobdonkin9804

    @bobdonkin9804

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GosforthHandyman 👍

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