Alot of people bashing you for making a small upgrade. If you don't want to replace the mim extractor then don't. If you are using a shotgun setup for personal defense then 20 dollars for a machined extractor is well worth it. To wait for the mim extractor to break before upgrading can mean the difference between life and death.

I did this replacement without disassembly in 30 seconds. Open the action, pop out the old extractor and pop in the new one. Done.

MIM is not stamping. It is metal injection molding, basically powdered metal mixed with plastic and then injected molded. Then the part is fired in an oven where all of the plastic is removed, and what you have left is a metal part. This process is much cheaper than machining to manufacture parts. I used to work for a company that made MIM parts.

@Beesa10

5 жыл бұрын

As I understand it MIM is not as precise due to some shrinkage when the parts are are fired but where precision isn't critical the MIM process is a very cost effective way of producing small parts. The MIM parts may not look pretty compared with machined parts (so they don't inspire confidence) but are plenty strong enough.

@bart99gt

4 жыл бұрын

If they’re not accounting for shrinkage after it cools, then the engineers in charge of the process should be fired. That said, I would imagine the MIM and machined parts are probably dimensionally identical.

@danielsmith8659

4 жыл бұрын

6 in one hand 1/2 dozen in the other . MIM parts and cast part technology has come a long way.... there tolerances are pretty dang good and most will never break under normal wear and tear..... but they could ..... if you want the piece and mind , get a milled part. Keep in mind stronger doesn’t mean better or that it will fit well. Neither of my volquartsen extractors fit flawlessly, and neither run smoothly without some hand work which was disappointing considering is was the most expensive all steel extractor I could buy

@jammerlr7780

Жыл бұрын

MIM has been given a bad name by a lot of people that really dont know what they are talking about. The overwhelming number of failures of MIM parts happens when the weapon/part are new or nearly new. In some cases, there can be occlusions, or voids within the metal that create a weak spot and they fracture and break under operational load. Most MIM parts that are not highly stressed components will work great for a very long time. Naturally for high stress applications, a machined bar stock piece will generally be more durable over time, but not necessarily more reliable. For most people in most applications, an MIM part is entirely adequate and is much cheaper to mass produce.

@Kornholeeoo

Жыл бұрын

You explained this really well. I tell people the same but I had a dude on FB argue with me saying MIM is just another name for solid steel. And it may be after all the other stuff is burned off.

I like my 870 and bought this extractor to thank it for being so cool.

Best upgrade yet, trust me you do not want to be the focus of the range due to failed extraction after 20 pumps. Easy replacement part, no need to remove bolt either, just ride the bolt back halfway and good to go.

I had extracting issues on my Remington 870 Express Super Magnum, i replaced the MIM extractor with a Volquartsen extractor, since then no more issues!

@ShreddinSleds

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah seems like after my last turkey hunting running magnums I was having extraction issues. Replacing it today and hoping for the best

@ve2yud

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShreddinSleds More than3 years have passed since I changed the extractor with a Volquartsen, no issues anymore, the gun works fine and is a pleasure to use for hunting.

@ShreddinSleds

2 жыл бұрын

@@ve2yud awesome! I haven’t run this shotgun in years because it was too unpredictable. Going to send some shot down range and build back my trust with it

Thanks for the video! Hell yeah, I put this extractor in all 3 of my 870's. Even with the naked eye, and on video, you can see how precise the Volquartsen wire EDM extractor is. Only cons are cost (still not bad) and it eats up aluminum A-Zoom snap caps.

A little tip for removing any component that is under spring pressure. An old white (for plenty of light) sheet covering you and the bench top prevents tiny parts from being launched into the abyss of your shop. 🤓🤙

@juliogonzo2718

4 жыл бұрын

One of my Turkish shotguns had such an incident. Magazine spring retainer fucked off into another dimension. Found it 9 months later

@noexcuses6727

Жыл бұрын

just don't cut eye holes in the sheet :)

Thanks for the video. The original extractor was knocked out of mine and lost. Glad I could do this upgrade and get my shotgun working again.

bought this part years ago, but had no chance to install it.... :(.... recently had to complete disassemble / reassemble my 870 express, and installed this extractor.... night and day difference. Excellent Upgrade.

I just did this upgrade for a stock model 870 Express. Thanks for this. It was very helpful.

If you’ll take a brass brush on a cleaning rod, same size as your chamber, wrap the brush with 0000 steel wool and a lot of oil on it and run it in and out of the barrel chamber on a drill for about 5 minutes on medium speed, you won’t have extraction issues with these Express shotguns. The chambers need polishing. Remington doesn’t polish them like they did on the Wing Masters. Plastic shotgun shells swell when fired and the plastic gets caught in the imperfections from the milling of the chamber. If you polish that out, you’ll be good to go. Has anyone seen first hand a MIM extractor go bad. I’ve heard of it but not seen it. My 1100 was made in 1967 so it has a solid one. Anyway, thanks for the video. 👍🏻

Another fabulous instructional! I can see how the extractor (& spring, if necessary) could be replaced without disassembly, but I made other upgrades at the same time, so takedown was necessary for me. Nevertheless, your video is excellent & makes an easy replacement/upgrade even easier. Thanks for posting!

I did this upgrade with the bolt still in the receiver. The volquartsen was not a perfect fit in my 870. It would make contact with the inside rear of the ejection port when racked rearward. I noticed the volquartsen has more of a hump back and needed filing down to fit properly. I tried it once at the range and it worked fine. Having said that, the original mim part had 100's of rounds on it and showed no sign of failing. Save your money. Buy ammo.

@bloodycrepe

8 ай бұрын

I couldn't disagree more

@deathb4digital

8 ай бұрын

About what specifically?@@bloodycrepe

@bloodycrepe

8 ай бұрын

@@deathb4digital volquartsen extractor on 870 is a must. Factory extractor has issues getting poor quality high brass/metal shells out. Never seen any humps issues, you should have sent it back for a replacement.

@deathb4digital

8 ай бұрын

My mim extractor has never had any issues regardless of the load. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slagging the volquartsen. My 870 is a 2014 and everyone knows Reminton's qc was in the gutter at the point. Maybe my receiver is slightly out of spec? I needed to file down the back of the extractor so it didn't make contact with the receiver. No big deal. Enjoy your 870.@@bloodycrepe

@bloodycrepe

8 ай бұрын

@@deathb4digital My 2015 rem 870 super magnum had nothing but issues with high winchester shells. That's mostly because of poor machining quality of that remington era. The shells expand and bind to machining marks in the barrel. Factory extractor couldn't handle it. No issues after upgrade to volquartsen extractor. I purchased another rem 870 in 2021. It's built 100 times better. No machining marks anywhere. But I still upgraded the extractor. It's much sharper than factory, built using higher tolerances and it's built to last a life time. Totally worth it. To be fair, many firearms have issues with stock extractors - ruger, stoeger, winchester. I am not sure why manufacturers cut corners with such a cheap part.

thanks for posting this! very small screwdriver worked better than the pick, pull the old one out and new Volquartson one in without releasing the spring, literally took 5-10 seconds

Best video on the topic.

Sweet video. Just ordered one yesterday. Going to use this to install it; thanks!

@ttown32179

6 жыл бұрын

Just did mine. I was surprised to see how much visible wear was on my Remington extractor & how easy it was to change. This guy is spot on; thanks for video!

Never have seen them break.But I would say super polish the chamber and smoother extraction you will have.

Thank you. Did this today.

Excellent Thank you for that..

I just can't jump on the non- MIM extractor bandwagon. I purchased my 870 SuperMag new in 2012 and have never had extraction issues so I see no need to change it. Most modern COLT 1911s use MIM parts and I don't hear anyone complaining about failures. If my MIM extractor breaks then I'll replace it, but not until then. Leatherman tools plier heads are MIM and I don't hear about constant breakage of those either. Companies saying MIM parts are inferior (which could be true in SOME applications) is just a technique used to separate a fool from his money.

I replaced the extractors in both my 870s. Both are turkey guns and both have seen a few hundred rounds over the last decade. Never broke an MIM extractor or had any issues . I replaced them anyway. Was disappointed with the fit of the volquartsen. The grind a little , one even hangs up. Required polishing on my end. They are also known to damage receivers if they stick out too much, supposedly volquartsen has fixed that. Mine work fine, just ran rough until I cleaned them up. If I had it to do over again I would have saved a few dollars and bought the Remington steel extractors , assuming the fit would have been closer to the original

Thanx , good how too

I have this as well and when I put it in my 870 Marine Magnum bolt it wouldn't eject my snap caps. I'm not going to bother taking it to the range I'm just going to buy the Remington factory Non-MIM part instead!

Nice thanks. I have a old Wingmaster but i polished the bolt and cleaned the extractor. That action is just like glass. I only wish it would slam fire.

@robertboreman7672

3 жыл бұрын

It won;t because of the locking lug in the bolt. Then it would be illegal and dangerous.

Gracias. Me sirvio para sacar el extracto de la carabina Mahely 👍😃

Does the VQ have more up and down play? I just put on in seeing if that’s normal. Cheers thanks

Thanks for posting. Looking at this operation, shouldn't one be able to do this without pulling the bolt carrier out of the shotgun?

@snowmanfl

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I pulled the bolt on my 870 and removal and installation is so easy I did it on my second 870 without pulling the bolt.

Metal injection molding is a stamping process? The process is in the name my man. Injecting metal into a mold.

this is an older video and i can't connect to the link for a part # for the extractor claw . I'm in Canada so I'd like to cross reference it and see if I can get one here ... unless you know where they are available . Thanks

How do you like extractor so far.

Where do I purchase the extractor along with the plunger and spring? When I lost the extractor I lost the spring and plunger.

Whats the problem with the MIM extractor? Why does it fail to extract?

Hi. Dies this upgrade make a big difference on the ejection or extraction, compared to the MIM one? Thanks

did you find it helped?

Which end of the plunger goes in first flat or round end?

Did you have to do any machining to fit this? People on brownells are saying that it didn’t fit and messed up the gun unless they machined it to fit

@Highjak86

6 жыл бұрын

I machined nothing and it seems to fit fine as far as I can tell.

@coleoshtamebaghe3606

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Poulson I just put one in mine. No polishing or machining necessary.

€50 2022 price. Nice.

Your way is faster and simpler!! I fought that thing for thirty minutes before getting it in!! 1234

I have a Remington 870 Express Super Magnum. Worked fine ,then I started shooting three and a half inch buck shots "hunting season" Well now when I shoot anything out of it I can not pull the slide back to inject the shells.it just gets stuck,the grabber thing In your vid works and grabs the shells fine but something else Is wrong any help would be great bud ?

@iCantPickaNamej

6 жыл бұрын

Shawn P get sand paper and finger bang the barrel where the round inserts. You can finger bang it for about 3 minutes. Thank me later haha

@ridermak4111

5 жыл бұрын

Shawn P From EBay: 1/4” x 4” slotted mandrel. About $5.00 Emery cloth 320 grit. 1” x 10’ roll, $3.50 Wind up emery cloth in slot, chuck up in drill, smooth up the chamber and the extension behind the chamber. 🤙

@danielsmith8659

4 жыл бұрын

You need to polish your chamber bud. Make sure where the extractor mates to the chamber is clean and burr free. But being hard to pump is definetly a chamber issue. Also when shooting hot rounds the hull may swell a little . Keep it real clean. Steel wool on a drill works wonders. Jb bore bright on scotch pad works wonders. If money ain’t a problem, a flex hone for the chamber from brush research really works wonders.

Any tactical upgrades for Remington 48 = ?

@Shadow0fd3ath24

6 жыл бұрын

dave f There are none. The model 48 is an old school much rarer shotgun. Best to sell it and buy an 870 or rem 1100

Great video man. Brief, good image quality, got to the point. Your trigger disassembly video was just as helpful recently too. Keep it up

👍👍👍👍👍

hi. I need an extractor for rem 870. A extractor is broken

@Highjak86

6 жыл бұрын

Link in the description for the improved Volquartsen extractor.

Did the volq rub on receiver while racking at all ? Some people complain of having to do some fitting.

@Highjak86

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice it during install and I just double checked, I'm not seeing any contact/rubbing on the receiver.

@MrJorddy123

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it rubs on the open

Certainly i buy spare parts like this for all my weapons upgrades are key for firearms perfection but i buy what works no more no less I've bought new parts at times and the factory parts work better

@robertboreman7672

3 жыл бұрын

Some parts are not just "drop in " units. Sometimes they have to be fitted. This is one of them. Can hang up on inside of barrel.

@andresimmons6787

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertboreman7672 so what's your point do what you do I really don't care

Looks like you don't even need to take out the bolt, and could remove and Install that quick?

@Highjak86

7 жыл бұрын

You could try that, but it would likely be a pain in the ass.

@charliedee9276

6 жыл бұрын

Actually it is pretty easy to do without removing the bolt, I did it in about a minute on my 20ga with the bolt half open. Used a Volquartsen Exact Edge and it works like a charm.

This is why I don't own lower end 870s. The Wingmasters or Special Purpose versions are their top of the line models. I had an Express version and it had problems ejecting rounds.

@charliedee9276

6 жыл бұрын

$400 extra dollars or $20 bucks and a minute of time. No brainer.

@pigeonsniper667

5 жыл бұрын

Yup. Love guys like you...buy 870S from them, clean out "FACTORY PACKING GREASE" that collects dirt and crap from cheap Russian shells and resell for profit. Or they buy a shotgun, never clean or oil it. They shoot it till if has extractor problems and bring to my shop to get fixed. Clean and oil...$$$ in my pocket.

@greyembrey1964

4 жыл бұрын

I don't own junk mozzbergs because I like my gun to shoot every time. don't like applying the superior safety every other round to clear the chamber of a round that didn't cycle. blame the ammo right? I can feed any ammo through my remington any length any quality never fails.

can you send it to vietnam?

@hammerjohnson4892

5 жыл бұрын

Buy one at brownells.com. I don't know if they will send to Vietnam. Ask them. Here is the link: www.brownells.com/shotgun-parts/receiver-action-parts/extractor-parts/extractors/extractor-non-mim-sku767161760-10745-27187.aspx?rrec=true

I've never heard of or seen a 870 not extract unless the shell was overloaded and got stuck. Eject yes....extract no. Ejectors are much more fragile

@saltcreekammo

4 жыл бұрын

My old 870 is now having extraction issues. Everyone I know who has the 870 super mag has extraction problems.

Just installed this and it rubs against the receiver on the open action very disappointed considering the cost for such a small piece. It scratched up the receiver as well

@RDM_1611KJV

4 жыл бұрын

True! It's not cut to spec. Put it side by side with the factory part and you'll notice that it's significantly thicker. When it comes to parts like these always stick with factory OEM!

I’m sorry for sounding like an idiot but what exactly does this peice do? Why would I want it? Also what else would you recommend I get?

For you young shooters. The 870 express extractor, is something that breaks. Ask me how I know. Go with the machined one and keep a spare. The extractor, and ejector have both failed with hard use in extreme conditions(cold) & magnum loads.

I have a stock 870 brand new that i took out for the first time last month and it failed to extract every other round. The action would not budge and you had to fiddle with it for minutes to get it to release. I was hoping it was just because it was new and needed to be broken in. The second time I took it out I would say it failed to extract (the action is completely jammed) every 5 or so rounds. Could upgrading e extractor be the issue? Only other thing I could find is that people say machining inside the chamber is not a smooth as older/higher grade models and that the round gets caught m the grooves when trying to extract. Very annoying and not very reassuring.

@asmadasahatter100

6 жыл бұрын

ryguyw1 this was my exact issue. Someone told me to rub down the breech end of the barrel with a Brillo pad because it may have a burr. I bought a new extractor, used this video as a guide and in no more than 30 minutes, I entirely solved that problem. Worth the $20.

@ridermak4111

5 жыл бұрын

ryguyw1 See my reply above about this problem. EBay: 1/4” slotted mandrel and 320 grit emery cloth. 🤙

Why do you need to replace the original mine has over 25,000 rounds with not a hitch

@Highjak86

7 жыл бұрын

Over 25K on a shotgun? Is this a trap gun? Call me crazy, but my first reaction as is probably everyone's, is to question that number. Regardless, as shared in the vid, the reasons these are replaced is that the MIM extractors are inferior to the machined versions and Remington tends to agree which is why they are installed in the higher end models like the Wingmasters and special purpose models.

@Lenmorey

7 жыл бұрын

Yes trap gun bought back actually dad bought for me back in 1978 or 81 have a few

@Highjak86

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not sure they were using any MIM components on shotguns that old anyway.

@anvilhammer9026

6 жыл бұрын

leonard morey weak people frequently short stroked. Lazy people don't lube the receiver.

@Awesome_1789

6 жыл бұрын

My broke less then a month

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Highly worth it, I had nothing but FTE. The stock one is fucking garbage. Once it's worn out, replace with high quality aftermarket extractors

Hey, this is off topic but, What's your opinion on Larue vs ADM mounts?

@Highjak86

7 жыл бұрын

Both are solid. I find the ADM mounts have to be more on the snug side to retain true zero which kinda removes some of their ability to "quick" detach since you have to use two hands to remove them.

@clarkboyz626

7 жыл бұрын

thanks for replying and putting out good content in your videos

these cost 30.00 now

What is the point of replacing this... my 870 Express (1992 vintage) has probably 15000-20000 rounds and no issues whatsoever? More stuff to lighten your wallet is all it is.

@Highjak86

5 жыл бұрын

Exaggerate much? We all know you don't have 20K rounds through your shotgun...

@BKD70

5 жыл бұрын

@@Highjak86 Ok, if you say so. I used to shoot a LOT of trap and Skeet with it back in the 90's, back when you were just a little squirt. But, I guess you probably would know better, since you spent $20 on a part you probably didn't need. Oh, and MIM is NOT metal stamping, for your information. You should do a little research before you reveal your experience level.

@Highjak86

5 жыл бұрын

@@BKD70 Ok 20k... lol

@Dude17768

5 жыл бұрын

Highjak86 seriously you’re a douche😂😂 you don’t even shoot

@ShawnTRD

5 жыл бұрын

The quilty of your older gun is all around better. My 1187 I bought in 2015 has been junk for most target rounds. I'm hoping this part helps.

lol MIM is NOT a stamping process.

There is nothing wrong with MIM parts. Some people just live in the past. Same with old farts and Poly pistols. Old fossils who don't keep up with the pack.

@2:45 to skip all the bullshit.

I want to buy the drawings. Remington 870. Buy me a message at a high price

The unreliability of these extractors should be a recall, and should be a ALL-STOP to Remington’s manufacturing process. Firearms are made and used to save lives and protect gross bodily injuries sometimes; Remington knows this and continues to crap out unreliable shotguns to save a few dollars? We already know that most American flags are made by Chinese children who are breathing unfiltered diesel particulated atmosphere, but what now…make an American gun so unreliable that can fail when we need it to save lives so we can save a few dollars? Well, wait…our country leader, corrupt government, not justice but just legal system, never-ending money printing, endless debt up our asses…hmmmm, it all making sense. Nevermind. I can’t complain about just a shotgun anymore. It’s all going to end soon.

Seems like a pretty pointless upgrade.