Glad to see you found a box! I am interested to see what you get in terms of accuracy!

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

Just pure luck that In found a box.

good video wating on the accuracy test

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

For a change I even posted part two in a reasonable time....

Hi 314299 Shooting Channel. Do you know what type of gun powder Remington used for their loading of this .303 British cartridge? Did Remington also manufacture their projectile for this round too? Thanks, Keyan

Nice. The ball powder should fire just fine; I suspect the company has completely tested the rounds. Glad to see Boxer primers; it increases the possibility of reloading. I agree with the point about the boat tail. I prefer milsurp (Greex HXP is good) in my 1918 BSA SMLE and my WWII No. 4s, but modern commercial rounds work well in my 1970s vintage Ishapore and my UF 1955, which have less barrel wear than my older Enfields.

I noticed some surplus bullets are not perfectly round. A few 1000ths of difference can be observed, if you measure at 90 deg. angle around the axis. Soviet rounds seem more pronounced.

314299... a very thorough benchtop review of this ammo, I want to see the range time too. What does the Remington ammo cost compared to the PPU, more or less?

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

Remington was $30/box compared to $20/box for the PPU.

Form and measured diameter remind me of the Hornady and the Privi .303 FMJBT, but the described ballistic coefficient seems unusually low for a boat-tailed Spitzer of this weight and calibre with this sharp a point. Can't wait to see the accuracy test and velocity figures.

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seemed a bit low to me as well.

314299 I just want to thank you for the demonstrations that you've done. Thanks for the education. Always appreciate your insight. Have you ever heard of using a magnifying glass in a pair of glasses to shoot iron sights?

@314299

3 жыл бұрын

No I have not. I have seen some interesting "iron" sights with optical lenses attached to them, but I believe they were for correcting the shooters vision, not for magnification.

I read somewhere that boat tail bullets general a lot of wear from the extreme heat produced by the gasses working on the area that is not contacting the rifling. Any views on that?

@314299

7 жыл бұрын

Boat tail bullets wear a barrel differently than flat based bullets. Barrels shooting both types of bullets experience erosion in the throat area from friction and powder gas erosion. Boat tail bullets wear out the bore at the muzzle much more quickly than do flat base bullets as the a boat tail bullet lets gasses briefly pass by the base prior to exit, this erosion works it's way back over time, making a barrel that is "shot out" at both ends but not so much in the middle.

@alneal100

7 жыл бұрын

Yes...that is pretty much what I read somewhere. You explain the phenomenon very clearly. Thank you for your time, and trouble.

Looks like the Privi has the edge so far, especially for brass. The Remmington jackets appear thin, I wonder if they obdurate a bit more to make up for the smaller bullet diameter. I join Mr. Wagner in anticipation for test phase II.

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

I doubt there is any significant dimension change on firing, even thin jackets are quite strong.

What would you think about using the bullets and powder from 7.62X54R to reload 303

@314299

5 жыл бұрын

Bullets from 7.62x54R are generally .3105" in diameter while .303 Brit uses .312", so while the bullets are a bit small they are not extremely undersized and should be usable in 303. The bigger question is the powder charge, the 7.62x54R is a larger case that operates at higher pressure than the .303, so a full charge of powder from a 7.62x54R is not suitable for a .303 and must be reduced. The issue is by how much, since you don't know what powder was used to load the 7.62 ammo.

I noticed you always use standard deviation with average & extreme spread. Do you find standard deviation usfull. I've always used Average Deviation it works well for me and can be done easy in my head.

@314299

9 жыл бұрын

Extreme spread is really a more useful number to me.

are cases stamped out of a sheet or some other milling method. im certainly no expert, pardon me if my question is moronic. just curious.

@314299

8 жыл бұрын

Cartridge cases are formed by a process called "drawing". Here is a link to a good description of the process: www.petersoncartridge.com/our-process/drawing-brass

Looks like either BLC-2 OR H335??? I've used 33t in 303...always used magnum primers...evennwithnthe imr4350 loads I use magnum primers Old timer gave me that and I always had great ignition

@314299

3 жыл бұрын

Ball powders had a reputation of being hard to ignite in cold conditions, especially in situations where loading density is low. As a consequence velocities were often inconsistent. Many of the older loading books recommended magnum primers to help remediate the inconsistent ignition. I generally only use ball powders in situations where the loading density is high (95% to 100 full cases) and have not found the need for magnum primers. For most "reduced" loads I prefer a stick or flake powder.

Just got my Lithgow [Australian] No1 MkIII* out of the gunsafe in the last week, and love it again. Now I am wondering what ammo to reload for it, either Woodleigh Bullets [Australian again woo] 215gr RN SN, however I know the rifle was built when the Army had the 174gr projectiles in use [1942] and I have about 20 surplus 174gr FMJ projectiles but cannot find any projectiles the same as them on the market, until I seen this video. I have seen that PPU sells a 174gr FMJ but it is actually different, where as this Remington UMC projectile looks EXACTLY the same as my surplus 174gr projectiles. Does anyone know if Remington UMC sells these 174gr FMJ bullets, so I can load my own.

@314299

6 жыл бұрын

Remington does not currently list the bullet used in this ammo as a reloading component. Hornady makes a similar bullet www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/303-cal-3105-174-gr-fmj-bt#!/

@HONORGUARD308

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! I had a look at Hornady but when I went into the selections it didnt come up with these, only the .312" selection for the .303. But I really appreciate you pointing this out, now I know how to find these on the site and can get some ordered in. =)

@nzdochunts34

6 жыл бұрын

Check out some Hunting in New Zealand on my page. Latest video is a Red Stag taken with a Lee Enfield 303. Lithgow using 150gr privi partisan

that looks like some of the BL 2(C) I have.

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

Yep, looks pretty similar looking.

have you tried using 7.62x39 rounds for reloading 303 british?

@314299

8 жыл бұрын

+Steven Wakelin Yes I have. The powder used in 7.62x39 is not very comparable with a larger case like the .303 Brit, it's too dense and quick burning.

@swakelin97910

8 жыл бұрын

+314299 Shooting Channel Would you suggested moving up to a 7.62x54R and meter the change down?

@314299

8 жыл бұрын

+Steven Wakelin It's interesting that you should mention that as yesterday I tried a few test rounds of 303 Brit loaded with the bullets from Chinese 7.62x54R ammo with a reduced powder charge from that ammo. So yes, "rebuilding" 7.62x54R into .303 Brit does seem to work.

@swakelin97910

8 жыл бұрын

+314299 Shooting Channel oh wow I would love to hear what you used for load data.

Good info

@314299

8 жыл бұрын

+William Dayman Thanks.

You sound Canadian. Greetings from an American citizen, who was born and raised in England.

@314299

8 жыл бұрын

You are correct, I'm Canadian.

@alneal100

8 жыл бұрын

I knew it. I had a childhood friend that used to come over from Nova Scotia and spend the summers in England. I have a couple of old .303's. A number 1 mark III, and a number 5 jungle carbine.

with that much powder it must pack a wallop, Remington's 180gn sp is a real stout load too. I tend to go easier on the powder with my old enfield.

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

It's a decent power charge for sure

Is it corrosive?

@314299

7 жыл бұрын

No, it is not.

I shot 40 rounds of ppu through my enfield every round keyholed I shot 40 rounds of this had 1 or 2 keyholes after some rapid fire but every bullet after them shot perfect did 10 rounds at different ranges got 1 to 3 inch groups idk if it’s the ammo or something wrong with the rifle but I bought a couple boxes of Remington after that lol

@314299

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like your barrel is worn out or damaged. PPU 303 shoots well for me in my guns.

@jthebk3864

6 жыл бұрын

314299 Shooting Channel I wondered that but then why’d the Remington ammo shoot so well out of it? I just thought that was odd

@314299

6 жыл бұрын

It is odd. Perhaps you got a bad batch of PPU.

@nzdochunts34

6 жыл бұрын

Check out some Hunting in New Zealand on my page. Latest video is a Red Stag taken with a Lee Enfield 303. used 150gr privi partisan

They probably didn't consider it to be an accurate enough round to feel it was necessary.

@314299

10 жыл бұрын

Turns out this was plenty accurate ammo.

Remington merged with UMC (I have read 'bought' as well) in 1912.

@314299

3 жыл бұрын

Which ever happened it was a long time ago. As I understand it Remington ammo is now a separate entity from the gun making Remington, and is owned by Vista Outdoor.

" used 335"

@314299

3 жыл бұрын

I figured you meant H335.