Remineralizing RO DI water

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visual video on how I remineralize RO/DI water for shrimp keeping.
Products used
Salty Shrimp Bee Shrimp GH+
TDC Bio-Culture SMW

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  • @MarksShrimpTanks
    @MarksShrimpTanks7 жыл бұрын

    Really good video Andrew,we my friend are like two peas in a pod I think when It comes to Shrimp ..They way you did your water is exact same way I do my water.

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Marks Shrimp Tanks Thank you Mark. Great minds think alike right? 😃

  • @serval_fpv
    @serval_fpv4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent cheers !

  • @jacobmcclure7649
    @jacobmcclure76496 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video I am just starting a cherry shrimp tank. Could you answer a question for me please? My RO unit comes out at 0 tds. Using salty shrimp gh kh what TDS do I need before adding it aquarium? I will be mixing it 1 gallon at a time and I don't use the other cultures you used just the RO water and gh kh minerals

  • @AussieAquatic
    @AussieAquatic7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Minerals are critical in aquarium water, for strong, balanced microbiota, as well as shrimps and fish. My tap water is almost RO quality, so I must remineralise as well.

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    That must be nice! My tap is around tds200 gh10.

  • @AussieAquatic

    @AussieAquatic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Corner Tank Corner It's ideal for temporary breeding tanks, but a pain for permanent tanks. Too soft, is as bad as too hard. Just right is in the middle. :)

  • @muhammadhadi6391
    @muhammadhadi6391 Жыл бұрын

    Hi thanks for the vid, may i know what about the kh?

  • @damionmarkham9835
    @damionmarkham98357 жыл бұрын

    thanks again Andrew ! very helpful

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @jackiekearney
    @jackiekearney6 жыл бұрын

    Thank for sharing this. Very easy to understand. How about if you have top water, after putting Prime my TDS is 42-46. That liquid you put is ok too to raise the tds? Thank you .

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes the bio-culture smw raises the TDS without affecting GH. That is really nice that you tap water has such low tds. Make sure you check what your gh and kh is. If it’s really low you may have to use some GH+ to adjust your parameters.

  • @calluula

    @calluula

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have new water factory in Africa so how about remineralisation and what I need sir

  • @DsouzaDrivingSchool
    @DsouzaDrivingSchool4 жыл бұрын

    Superb video I don’t seem to find TDC bio culture anywhere ( I m in UK). Is this product being discontinued? Any other similar product we can use?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It is hard to find indeed. Even I stopped using it for that reason and the high price as well. Recently I started using SL-Aqua products like the TM-1 Solutions and Aquavital. It basically just adds minerals that are good reform the shrimp. Hope this helps! Keep shrimping!

  • @viti339
    @viti3396 жыл бұрын

    How do you get a reading of your rodi waters ph before adding minerals. With mine the test kits and ph meter show my ph as 8.1 even before adding minerals. If I bypass the Di stage and just use RO, my water reads 6.5. Do ignore the high ph on the rodi water and just set my kh and gh that I require.

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    6 жыл бұрын

    +viti339 I remember using the API test to measure the PH. It measured ph6. After remineralizing it and adding it to the tank with active substrate the PH would go down to ph5.8. I also use SMW BioCulture which lowers the ph even more. Some minerals like the Shrimpking GH+ lowers the ph to about 6-6.5. If you use active soil it will take care of the high ph, just add it slow to avoid any shock to the shrimps. So to answer your question I would say yes, set your gh/kh and tds, the rest will be taken care by the active substrate (considering our use it). Hope this helps! Thank you!

  • @jlathem56
    @jlathem567 жыл бұрын

    Do you use the same mineralization for Crystals, Bees, and Cherrys?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes at the moment all my shrimps are in the same soft water parameters. Cherry shrimps are very hardy shrimp and they do ok but they don't breed to the full potential as they should. Ones I get enough tanks they will get different water parameters including raised kh. Thank you!

  • @sauravdey928
    @sauravdey9284 жыл бұрын

    Everytime i add mineral in ro water for my neocaridina shrimps the water becomes white cloudy in color

  • @trashman8169
    @trashman81697 жыл бұрын

    What type of RO do you use? I need to buy one. Are they all the same?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are pretty much all the same. I bought mine from Aquasafecanada (6 stage) but if you search for RO/DI water filters you will get quite a few web pages that sell them. Also try Costco or Lowes. Bottom line is they all do the same thing.

  • @remycho9998
    @remycho99987 жыл бұрын

    Do you know what happens when u use bottled spring water? is that the same as RO ?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hello Remy, spring water is not the same as RO as it will contain minerals. RO water is basically stripped of all minerals and is basically pure and ideally it should have a TDS of zero. Another alternative to RO is Distilled water.

  • @haroutvartanian2915
    @haroutvartanian29154 жыл бұрын

    Do i need an active substrate if im using r/o water with salty shrimp bee shrimp mineral GH for crystal red shrimp? Will they be fine/thrive without active substrate ?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    4 жыл бұрын

    They may be ok but the danger is that your parameters won’t be stable and your ph will increase over time. Active substrate keeps that in check. So I would say even if they survive over a long period of time, they may not thrive.

  • @crypto_jim
    @crypto_jim5 жыл бұрын

    How about using crushed up eggshells?

  • @Senorlatulla

    @Senorlatulla

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good question... Any update if it work?

  • @hieukhun
    @hieukhun7 жыл бұрын

    where do you buy the little bubble thing above your water and the connecting valve?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    The valve you can be bought at any fish store. It is basically for controlling the output of an air pump. The bubble (RO Float Valve) can be bought wherever RO units are sold, including amazon, ebay, dealextreme.

  • @LoneWolf_RO
    @LoneWolf_RO6 жыл бұрын

    can i add RO water in the aquarium without minerals? if i allready have 50% water in the tank and i add ro water what would be the problem? all i want is to lower my KH since is about 12....

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can but I would do it really slow to avoid any shock to the shrimps. Better yet take some aquarium water and mix with to and then slowly add to the tank. Also match the temperature that should cause less shock as well. Hope this helps!

  • @LoneWolf_RO

    @LoneWolf_RO

    6 жыл бұрын

    i do not have any shrimps/fish in my tank only plants.

  • @Shadowwake13
    @Shadowwake133 жыл бұрын

    What shrimp do you use this on, the perimeters for the water.

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any softwater shrimp such as the Crystal red shrimp or Taiwan bees

  • @poquito808
    @poquito8082 жыл бұрын

    What’s the content of GH+?

  • @jakegenel6934
    @jakegenel69347 жыл бұрын

    what are your water peramiters for plants/shrimp ?

  • @jakegenel6934

    @jakegenel6934

    7 жыл бұрын

    also, you know from experience what you ph is. Did you get that 6.2PH from the bee shrimp Mineral GH ? I have Amazonia HD. Do you think because of the PH changing substrate I shouldn't worry about the PH ? also, what are your tanks used for. Ha, thanks for anything you can help with.

  • @Jlui83
    @Jlui837 жыл бұрын

    How long can you keep that rodi water in that bucket? does it go bad?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jlui83 usually a few days . I don't think it can get bad.

  • @Jlui83

    @Jlui83

    7 жыл бұрын

    Corner Tank Corner thanks. i only have a 10 gal tank. figured it would be easier to fill a 5 gal bucket with rodi water, remineralize it and put it aside and just use it when needed. do you put a airstone or heater in the bucket?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jlui83 That would be just fine. Heater and some way to move the water is preferable. I have some friends that make a whole barrel and run heaters and aeration and always have tons of water ready.

  • @Jlui83

    @Jlui83

    7 жыл бұрын

    awesome. thats what im hoping for. thanks

  • @sauravdey928
    @sauravdey9284 жыл бұрын

    Is salty Aquarium mineral Gh/Kh + Shrimp mineral Gh/Kh + Same? Everything is written same on the box

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably, just make sure the dosing is the same to achieve desired prmeters

  • @rajadey4919

    @rajadey4919

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@cornertankcornerWill this product work in a Discus tank? Discus requires pristine water quality which can only be maintained through RO or RODI water quality. The main problem is the absence of Kh in RO water which is either negligible or very minimum. The Kh parameter in a discus tank is 4dKH or below. Discus are very prone/fatal to Ph swings ( below 2dKH ) and stress ( above 4 dKH ).

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rajadey4919 I don't know much about Discus water parameters but since you mentioned that they are sensitive to PH swings, I wouldn't recommend this products (GH+) as it will not add any KH. There are others salts for Neocaridina type of shrmps which adjust both the GH and KH and it will have more stable parameters and not rely on buffering substrates. Just search for neocaridina remineralizer and see if that is something you could use.

  • @haroutvartanian2915
    @haroutvartanian29154 жыл бұрын

    Reverse osmosis water drops down to 6.0 ph with Bee shrimp gh without using buffering substrate. Isnt that too low for crystal red shrimp? Should i use Salty shrimp gh kh? Another questions is, why is my ph under 6 with this product? Shouldnt it be 6.4?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is correct. The ph will drop even more with active substrate when using remineralized RO. Mine sits at about ph5.8. The active substrate instructions are a bit deceiving as they imply that you will use neutral ph water of about ph7.5, which as they say drops your water to about ph6.5. All that said, lower ph at around ph6 is actually good for you bee shrimps and they will do fine. I had mine as low as ph4.8 and the bee shrimps we’re happy. Snails, not so much. 😉

  • @haroutvartanian2915

    @haroutvartanian2915

    4 жыл бұрын

    Corner Tank Corner thanks so much for your help! I’ve been killing myself over this. When I say bee shrimp I specifically mean pure red line and crystal red shrimp. With my ro water should I use bee shrimp gh or salty shrimp gh kh? Online and many people say the best ph for crystal red is 6.8 exactly ? What do you think is the best ph for breeding these shrimp ? Will they breed more at 6.8 or at under 6 . The only way to get 6.8 is with mixing bee shrimp gh and salty shrimp gh kh . What do you think ? My intention is breeding

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    4 жыл бұрын

    You definitely don’t want to use the gh/kh+ . For bee shrimps stay away from the kh. As for the best ph, don’t worry about it as long as you are in between 5.8 to 6.8 they will do equally fine. What is important is a stable environment for them to thrive. Also small water changes every week to a few weeks, depending on how many shrimps, with similar water temperature and tds is the key. I keep mine at tds130. I don’t measure ph,gh or kh. Keep in mind that tds will be increasing over time so when doing water changes make the new water somewhat lower so that the tds gets diluted in the tank to desirable value. Also don’t just dump the new water in the tank, try to do it slow to avoid any sudden parameter changes which could cause your shrimp to prematurely molt and die. Hope this helps. 😉

  • @haroutvartanian2915

    @haroutvartanian2915

    4 жыл бұрын

    Corner Tank Corner I understand thank you. For neo caradina , do you recommend conditioned tap water or reverse osmosis water with salty shrimp gh kh ? And what ph for tap water and what ph for r/o water with salty shrimp? Do you recommend using r/o water with salty shrimp for mystery/ rams horn snails or just regular conditioned tap water ? Thank you

  • @haroutvartanian2915
    @haroutvartanian29153 жыл бұрын

    Corner tank guy, i need your input brother. here is what is happening. the ph in my crystal red tank is at 4.6. I mix RO water with bee shrimp to get tds at 120. Ph in the bucket before the tank is 5.8 but the tank ph is 4.6. Is this too low? What is causing this? its a 10 gallon tank and i have a bunch of alder cones and almond leaves, would they be dropping the ph? Should i remove them? I am not using a buffering substrate so that couldnt be the case. I am using aqueon plant and shrimp substrate, it is clay based and it says it does nothing to buffer water. People complain that it actually raises ph but for me its the opposite. I used to use fluval stratum and my ph would be at 6.2 but i got tired of having to change it every year and half. I dont get why my ph is 4.6 ever since changing to this substrate. Im having like a death a day.

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alder cones and almond leaves do lower the ph but it would have to be a significant amount to lower it by that much. I looked into the aqueous soil and you are right it doesn’t lower the ph so that is not. On the other hand I kept crystal shrimps in ph 4.5 without any issues as well as Neocaridinas and they were doing fine. Not sure why you are experiencing deaths. Is the tank fully cycled? I would remove the alder cones and almond leaves and asses the situation from there. How are you measuring the PH? I have seen meters being off by a whole 1ph.

  • @haroutvartanian2915

    @haroutvartanian2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cornertankcorner I have Apera Instruments AI311, its one of the best ph meters and its fully calibrated. I know the meter is recording the correct ph. Tank is fully cycled. I removed the cones and leaves. I just left one leaf. Would too much shrimp in the tank cause the ph to drop like over population? Right now im using RO water and Bee shrimp mineral to get 130 tds. Bee shrimp mineral has 0kh. Im going to start doing half salty shrimp gh kh and half bee shrimp gh. (65 tds each). I did the math and doing this will give me 130 TDS, 5GH , 1KH . What do you think? Im thinking the 1kh will stabilize the waters ph so it wont drop. Do you think this is a good idea?

  • @haroutvartanian2915

    @haroutvartanian2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    tested water after removing cones and leaves. Ph went up to 5.1 which is good news. May i ask why your ph was at 4.5 ? My understanding is the perfect ph for crystal reds is 6.2 because anything under 6 will stop beneficial bacteria from growing. Do you think i think should add the 1 kh over time to aim for a 6.2 ph or should i just stick with the lower ph around 5.5?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used ADA Amazonia, which will lower the PH quite a bit and when using remineralized RO which already drops the PH results in a even more ph drop. Plus all the other additives like leaves and such. You are correct about the bacteria but some bacteria will thrive in soft water as well. Also I don’t go by the “perfect” parameters for given shrimp type as I personally have different results. My neos do better in soft water than in ph 7 and above and now I keep them all in active substrates. Fluval stratum in particular so that I can change the substrate without removing the shrimps. Just keep in mind that using an inert substrate without KH will be hard to maintain as it will start creeping up over time. I’m still amazed that yours went down that much but if I were you I would double check the ph using chemical method. I have 3 ph meters, one from Milwaukee, one from HM, and a cheap no brand one. They all read perfect when in calibration solution but in tank water there are way off by as much a 1ph. Some more some less. That is why I always recommend a chemical way of testing your water. To answer the question about mixing some kh into it. I don’t see a problem as long you don’t exceed kh3

  • @haroutvartanian2915

    @haroutvartanian2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cornertankcorner Thanks for the reply. The only other thing i have in the tank is drift wood but i doubt its bringing my ph down so much. So i will try doing the 1kh and see where it goes. What do you recommend for PH for crystal reds when it comes to breeding them ?

  • @cornertankcorner
    @cornertankcorner7 жыл бұрын

    Stew I accidentally deleted your comment, I'm sorry it was not on purpose. But to answer your question about the ph getting lowers, yes it lowers it especially if you overdose. Try dosing half of the recommended amount. For me it works ok as once it mixes with the tank water it evens out. Just make sure to drop in the water to give it a chance to mix and to avoid shocking your Shrimp. Some people mix their water by adding gh+ to raise TDS to about 70 then add SMW to raise TDS to 90 and gh up to set to desired final TDS. Hope this helps.

  • @Stuartone7

    @Stuartone7

    7 жыл бұрын

    Corner Tank Corner ill give it a try thank for your reply

  • @thatonedog819
    @thatonedog8195 жыл бұрын

    What about remineralization post filters?

  • @thomaswolsey2319
    @thomaswolsey23195 жыл бұрын

    Why you not raise your kh?

  • @cornertankcorner

    @cornertankcorner

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bee shrimps require kh to be as low as possible.

  • @happywrench3044

    @happywrench3044

    4 жыл бұрын

    With low or no Kh would your ph swing or crash?