I really wish you would start putting video's back out... Watching your video's got me to really get in to reloading more.. I have enjoyed all your video's.. God Bless JDAS

Love your Lyman All American press, mine is family heirloom, more than 60 years old.

I’ve been running the 225 ftx and 40grn of lil gun since that gun came out. Best damn load I’ve ever fired!!

@tonkatank045

2 жыл бұрын

How bad does it kick? Do you have a heavier buffer spring?

Thanks for all the great information, I have a few of a couple loads ready to test out.

Good video, you sound like a pretty knowledgeable guy and I am also a big fan of the 450. I have one in an AR platform and I just built a bolt gun on a Savage action. I started by loading the 240gr XTP magnum and then went to the 250gr XTP. All worked good but 2 years ago I also gave the 225gr FTX a try with a reduced load of IMR 4227. That is my pet load, much less recoil, one hole MOA accuracy and DRT performance on Whitetails. Hornady has load data for the 240 in their manual and you can back off from there to 454 Casull loads with the 4227 if you want or anywhere in between. At 1870fps with 225 I killed a big doe at roughly 120 yards, just buckled her knees. I don't know if you realize it but the 450 Bushmaster headspaces on the case mouth and with the roll crimp your head space is off, the extractor is holding the case in place when firing. You will get better accuracy with a taper crimp off the channelure or use a bullet without one and it will be safer. I bought a bunch of 200gr FTX blems from Midway for $8/50 and load them with greatly reduced charges of AA5744 to around 1250 fps for plinking or small game like a heavy 45 Colt load, just over $11/50 and a bunch of fun. Single shot in a AR but tons of fun in the Savage.

@Physics072

4 жыл бұрын

I don't get why people change what the engineers at the ammo companies do. Just copy what they sell in terms of where to crimp a bullet etc. When i here stuff like head space is off that sounds like possible issues down the road. I would like to know the what happens if: 1. You load the bullet just barely in the case (making it longer) 2. Load same bullet extra deep 3. Load bullet same as factory. Whats the differences in performance, etc in those three?

Thanks for watching like and subscribe.

Thank you for spending your time to make these informative videos I'm from New Zealand and there are not many 450BM's around here and not much data I'll try the 225 FTX as available here Thanks again

Thanks for the info.. I just purchased a CVA hunter to see if the load was worth all the hype. I'm very pleased to say that it is that and more. I plan on using the 450 bushmaster as my hog hunting load in an up coming hunt.

I switched to these bullets after shooting a few whitetails with the 250s and not being happy with the wounds i saw, they dont expand much and the deer ran 60+ yards. These 225 ftx bullets however, going 2250fps or so.... im on a three deer streak of drop in its tracks performance. Shots ranging from 100 to 130 yards. Very impressive.

@Physics072

3 жыл бұрын

Bullets don't drop a deer in its tracks its placement. I've shot them right through the hear and they still run 60-80 yards. If you spine them with any bullet they will drop. The 250ftx is not that bad it does tend to explode a little if you hit bone leaving shrapnel. But it does dump all its energy in the animal. I like the copper bullets so if I hit near the heart its not full of lead shrapnel. For target shooting the ones in this video are hard to beat price wise and they will bring a dear down too. I just started reloading my 450 today had to get kit for my Dillon XL650. Starting out with 39, 40 and 41gr of H110. This is for BOLT guns not AR. Bolts are based on .308 and can handle much higher pressures. 38,000 for AR and 62,000 psi for .308 based 450s. So don't expect to see pressure signs at AR loads you wont.

@fruitfarmfords8243

3 жыл бұрын

@@Physics072 The shots i speak of are all perfect broadside, behind the shoulder, double lung, consistently. I grew up using a .270 win to kill deer, with 130gr bullets coming out of the muzzle at 3100 fps, ive had deer run 70 yards or more with no heart at all with that load, however, it has put more down where they stood than have ever ran. With an advertised muzzle velocity of 2200, the 250gr in the .450 lacks the "hydro-shock" effect out beyond 150yds, however, those 225gr ftx still expand very well at 180yds, and last november i shot the biggest whitetail of my life, well over 200lbs, at 20yds, square in the shoulder, he got up, ran 15yds, dropped dead, the 225gr ftx was under the hide on the off side, ALL energy expended. Surely that shot with a .22lr vs a howitzer, which one may drop in its tracks, which one most likely will run? When a bullet leaves an exit wound, it still had some energy to spend beyond the animal. Placement is a huge factor, but so is velocity, and animal toughness. The .450 BM was not based on the .308. Just hold the cases next to each other and you can see that. It was based on the .284 winchester, a bottle neck round designed for use in semi autos. I run a bolt gun too.

@Physics072

3 жыл бұрын

@@fruitfarmfords8243 Hi Buck, sorry I did not mean it was based off the .308 saying bolt 450s like the Ruger Gunsite scout are built around their .308 guns converted to 450 so they are able to handle much higher pressures than non bolt actions (ARs) I go for the double lung, I like to track them, maybe its weird but thats the fun part for me. And yea much energy is wasted on full pass throughs but so is meat. i love the heart. I hit one with a lead FTX there and blew it up and no blood trail and jelly heart full of lead shrapnel. Hit another at 200 in shoulder blade (no pass and no blood, he ran into hidden area 80+ yards through a swamp and took me long time to find him. (no blood) After that I decided to give higher velocity coppers a try. Hit one in the heart full pass-though good blood (and tracking!) he only ran 50 yards into woods. But heart was mmm good (no shrapnel) I know lots of guys that like to drop them (spine shots) for me it takes 1/2 the fun out of the journey. Wish I could use a .270 around here, we can't. Use to be shotgun only so for us the 450 BM is a huge step up. With the newer Bear Creek high BC (.265) it extends the range about 100 yards past the current hornady. And the win drift is almost 2x better. Only really matters past 200 yards.

@fruitfarmfords8243

3 жыл бұрын

@@Physics072 I like heart too, i dont mind tracking myself, but where i hunt with the .450 is small parcels of private property, if the deer goes 100 yards a certain way, its on the neighbors land. I must travel nearly 3 hours north to use my real rifles, damn caliber restrictions. Where im restricted to straight wall and shotgun (southern michigan) the spot i hunt has less density of people nearby than where i hunt in the real rifle zone. Laws written by people that cant change a tire.

@Physics072

3 жыл бұрын

@@fruitfarmfords8243 LOL funny but its true on the tire analogy. Yea I would have to change some things If I had to worry about it running 80 yards. I doubt I'd take 200 yard shots if going for high shoulder/spine type shots.

Thank you for the video, i had someone buy the same 225gr ftx for me, they didnt know it was for pistol. Your video helped me not waste these bullets an how much powder an OAL for it to. Much appreciated

Lil' Gun good chose. You can also size down 458 diameter bullets using Lee sizing dies. Lehigh Defence sells a 220 grain. Extreme Penatrator. I use Lil gun and 225 load data. Also look at bullets for the 460 S&W & 454 Casull. They work good

Thanks for the info...I appreciate you taking the time.

@Rushshooting67913

5 жыл бұрын

Donald Moffatt no problem I'm trying to get alot more videos out but I've been working like crazy. I got all the components just don't have the time I'll get them out soon though thanks for watching.

Interesting video. I have two 450 BMs: Ruger American bolt action, and Ruger Number One single-shot stainless. I have had good luck with 300 grain bullets from Hornady and Speer, and several cast bullets from 265 gr. FPGC to 335 Lyman FPGC - cast from linotype. I have a Lee die set like yours. And, good results from H-110, IMR 4227, and H-4198. Winchester and CCI Small Rifle primers, and StarLine brass.

I am going to load up some 200 grain Hornady and give them a try. And be watching new Hornady 450 loads been hearing they are going to switch to large rifle primers

I have an AR pistol with 10" barrel. The 240g xtp mag bullets feed nice! The ftx can cause issues. With the plastic tip, you would think they would feed nice, but I think the point lifts bullet up at more of an angle. 40.3 grains of H110, 2.06 OAL with xtp shoot nice.

I have the same Ruger American 450 I might give the 200 ftx a try and see if they are good in my gun

This video inspired me to make a video tonight. I developed a super cheap (32 cents if you use your brass) accurate load for the Bushmaster. 15 cent bullet, 3 cent primer and 14 cents powder! found a guy who made a similar load with Everglades 45 230grain jhp. I used to buy everglades until I found Zero bullets at Rose Distribution. They are better and cheaper. under 15 cents. true jackets not plated. I shot 5 after deep cleaning my barrel with Sweets 7.62. just ran more Sweets through after 5 shots with minimum blue patches. the target had round holes and no keyholes under 1" at 50 yards group of 5. just an FYI if anyones interested. I will make a video. OAL is to be 2.060" 37 grains lil' gun. use CCI 400 OR HOTTER primer. Also if you find the write up for the everglades he did not know what COAL to use and his rounds wouldnt feed reliably. update I have now shot 10 rounds of this. no feeding issues with standard 556 magpul 30 round magazine.

@spadetrump

5 жыл бұрын

I made the video. its called. Reloading 450 Bushmaster 230 jhp cheap 34¢ accurate round! Save some money!!!

Great stuff. would like to see the AR on your shoulder. I wonder what the difference would be.

No feeding issues with my AR and these bullets. I found top end loads weren't very accurate. Lower end loads were grouping under a inch at 100 yards.

Hey did you find a load with the 250 ftx that you liked, and Wich powder and charge weight did you try. Thanks for the videos and info man, not alot of solid info and loading videos, big help.

you mentioned Reuger American. What barrel length, twist rate, etc.? Do you have chrono data?

Lyman 50th has the 225 ftx in it for 450 that gun

Nicely done! What press is that? A pacific ? I load for the 454 and the xtp mag box is hard to find most times for me. 240's and 300 gr's. I was asking around why cant you use the 450/460 ftx ? way faster loadings than the 454 loads. Makes no sense to me. They say jacket separation ,I'm gunna try it. What can it hurt out of a 2.5" & 7.5" barrel A Lot of guy's use hard cast. Haven't tried that as of yet. Keep on rollin. Id like to see more videos like this, thanks again, mike.

what is the OVL?

whats your thought on nato primers for the 450??

With the primer shortage all I got left are Magnum primers. Have you used them? Are you backing off the powder?

@Rushshooting67913

3 жыл бұрын

Yes actually mag primers are the best in the 450. I switched to a cci 450 and rem 7 1/2 primers for all my loads. I never had to back off the powder so you should be good to go.

@livingintheprairie1517

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rushshooting67913 good. My son picked up the rifle this fall. I got the 4 dies from lee for him this Christmas. And H-110 and 250 Hornady bullets. Thanks for the help.

gotta say dude i like the channel and the knowledge. unrelated but thoughts on cfe223? been loading some in 308 and 22-250 and getting decent results. merry christmas dude!

@Rushshooting67913

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like that powder a lot. It's usually always given me good velocities and accuracy in 223 and 6.5 grendel.

Thanks for the video. I have like 3 books with data on this but sure seems like lots more data should be around. I had to jump into this caliber. $240 for a complete upper for my AR at Bear Creek. figure I will try what your doing to start off. might as well start off with something that works and go from there eh? Thanks again. i got the same bullets. bought them because of the price. Do you use standard small rifle primers? I have a ton of those S&B that i got dirt cheap.

@spadetrump

5 жыл бұрын

nvrmind i see you have a video on primers! thnx

@Rushshooting67913

5 жыл бұрын

You should use a hotter primer I was using a cci 450 and rem 7 1/2 but you could use the s&b with some powders just wouldn't use it for h110

@spadetrump

5 жыл бұрын

@@Rushshooting67913 I have now tested S&B 2 penny SM rifle primers in 95F temps. They are just as accurate as the CCI 400 but they have the delay (that i think is cool) that you get on cold winter days. you hear the hammer drop, pin click and then boom. like 1/4 second delay. i wont be using them unless its really hot. cci 400 or hotter for lil' gun powder.

I like the idea of loading the 225. I was thinking you could load them down for a kid to deer hunt with. Do you know what kind of speed you are getting with the 225 ftx?

@Rushshooting67913

5 жыл бұрын

Jacob Smithson around 2300 I got a whole series of loads on my channel I worked up a load with titegroup going around 1700-1800 on here has almost no recoil.

@jacobsmithson2665

5 жыл бұрын

RushShooting 67913 thanks for the reply. I’ll sure I’ll get to the video I’ve been watching all of them. I’ve had good luck with the 250 ftx and 39.5 he of h110. I’m getting around 2200 fps. But it way to much for a 10 year old. Thanks again and keep the videos coming. What a fun cartridge to load and shot.

what's the dia. of the rounds your using .451 or .458,,,,and you should try some loads at 35 or so gr. you must be moving them at over 2200 FPS,,,one guy is loading them with rose distribution bullets

@chriscalhoun516

Жыл бұрын

He's using bullets for 45 colt or .452. He cautioned against 45 ACP which is .451. .458 is too big (45-70).

Would you mind trying some Hodgdon H110 on your next relaod?

@Rushshooting67913

6 жыл бұрын

Steve A I actually just picked up a pound a couple days ago and yes I'm going to try it I picked up some 200 grain FTX bullets too I'm going to try the H 110 with a 225 and the 200 grain bullets

@stv1111

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I am saving my brass from the factory Hornady 250 FTX. I am key-holeing 5 shot groups with them in an AR platform!. I wanna reload with 225 grain FTX ( as you stated, because of "price") and use the H110 since I have 8lbs of it from my extensive 300 blackout reloading. Hoping you find a nice load for the combo before I even go at it. Hoping just small tweaking of the scope once I transition to the 225's. I am thinking 42.5 grains.. but we shall see. Thanks for your response!

@krazyrican2009

5 жыл бұрын

Steve A, I shoot the 225 grainers. It’s the only way I can get a pass through double shoulder. I wanted more penetration. The 250’s are devastating on deer. They have dropped deer on the spot for me but I never gota pass through until I used the 225’s.

@krazyrican2009

5 жыл бұрын

Chad Klaren I want a pass through. It’s hard to achieve that with the variety of heavy expanding bullets out there. The 225 grainers are awesome so far. I’ve recently picked up some 200 grain Black Butterfly Stingers and will try them out soon. Jacketed soft points would be wicked. I’d like to see some testing with some jacketed soft points.

@Physics072

3 жыл бұрын

@@krazyrican2009 I've had clean passes with the 250FTX just don't hit a rib or bone. If you want passthroughs just use copper bullets. Get the bear Creak 240 gr with a BC of .265 they add about 100 yards to your range over the FTX shoot very flat and don't slow down. You can get around 2500fps with them from a bolt. Can also buy it factory ready loaded for AR or Bolt.

How long is the barrel on your Ruger American 450: rifle?

@Rushshooting67913

5 ай бұрын

16”

I run 43 grains of little gun with my AR-15

They're jacketed, it'll be fine..

Puplic speaking is clearly not this gentleman's forte.

@Rushshooting67913

4 ай бұрын

Nope