Religious OCD: The Guilt and Confession Cycle

One of the common patterns for Christians with OCD, is the compulsion of excessive confession of something that disturbs your spirituality. There can be a nagging sense that something is not right in your stance with God or there is some specific issue that needs to be dealt with and remedied.
Confession to God, repentance and sharing with others is a powerful experience.
But for "OCDers," this whole subject becomes distorted. They fall into a cycle where they are repenting for things they do not need to repent of. They confess things they do not need to confess. The confession can be to God, but it can often move into confession to another person-a religious leader, a spouse or friend.
It becomes a chronic pattern of feeling disturbed in such a way that you cannot move on unless you confess the issue. But you begin to see that this pattern is getting in the way of your life, you observe that something about this isn’t right and most of all, it's not bearing fruit. You are becoming more bound that you are being free.
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  • @jayowens2114
    @jayowens2114 Жыл бұрын

    Reading all these comments makes me realize I'm not alone struggling with religious scrupulosity. You almost never feel right with God and spend a lot of the day checking to see if I'm saved or not. Feeling condemned Reading scripture. It's tough folks but let's all just hang in there like Mark always says let's show ourselves some grace because it's a Journey. Love you Brother Mark. I'm a a 56 year old son of a preacher. Grew up in church. 25 years in law enforcement. You think I would have it together. Love all my OCD brothers and sisters.

  • @Nightwalker25-m3u

    @Nightwalker25-m3u

    5 ай бұрын

    There's alot of difficulty in growing up in church. Yes, I really do not discredit Christians, but brother. The insane pressure.

  • @asijahjett2904
    @asijahjett2904 Жыл бұрын

    I was addicted to coke for for about 2 years , almost 3 years clean from it , by the grace of God , and I can tell you first hand that coke was way easier to get off than this ocd anxiety battle smh

  • @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    Жыл бұрын

    What must we do to receive the forgiveness of sins?

  • @asijahjett2904

    @asijahjett2904

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LetsTalkBibleOroville believe that Jesus is the only way to the father and to heaven.. ask him into your life , that he died for us on the cross and rose on the 3rd day

  • @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asijahjett2904 thanks for responding! I stream live every morning. Will you join us? I would love for you to become part of the chat! PLEASE!?

  • @asijahjett2904

    @asijahjett2904

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LetsTalkBibleOroville yeah man shoot me the link

  • @learningsevenresearchgoals1127

    @learningsevenresearchgoals1127

    Жыл бұрын

    I was addicted to pepsi

  • @LM-wk6ty
    @LM-wk6ty Жыл бұрын

    As a catholic i feel exactly how you explained. Confession is the only way to alleviate the pain. I'm on a journey like many of us here, to learn to accept that Jesus already paid the price for our salvation, we just need to accept him and let him love us. I have read or heard somewhere, it is more difficult to learn to let God love you than loving God back.

  • @Slizzsamurai
    @Slizzsamurai Жыл бұрын

    Mark i just want to tell you that i'm thankfull for your work. You don't know me but it feels like you are my actual brother. The things you have spoken and the way how you present it is a gift from God. Looking forward to listening to this and meditating on it. I love you Mark, and i love what God is doing in you and through you. Glory to the Father!

  • @samanthakomara2047
    @samanthakomara2047 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe you just posted this 🙌🏼.. I have been struggling so badly with obsessive thoughts over matters in scripture and feel like I am failing God. I keep saying I wish someone would realize how difficult it is to have OCD & other mental illness and still striving to have a relationship with God. Thank you for speaking on this, I feel I have learned a lot ✝️

  • @peaceseeker7441

    @peaceseeker7441

    Жыл бұрын

    You are doing well! Keep going sister!

  • @samanthakomara2047

    @samanthakomara2047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peaceseeker7441 thank you! 😊✝️

  • @peaceseeker7441

    @peaceseeker7441

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samanthakomara2047 No worries, that is what I am here for!

  • @jordyn_shorts

    @jordyn_shorts

    Жыл бұрын

    I know! I feel like everything I'm doing is a sin. And it doesn't help when I read the Bible and see that these things are a sin. And then Im like, well, maybe is the Holy Spirit but then another part of me is like no its your mind. Its so overwhelming and depressing. love God sooo much. I just want to have a better relationship with Him and be at peace mentally and emotionally.

  • @keithawhosoever5384
    @keithawhosoever5384 Жыл бұрын

    Guilt is manipulative without a doubt . I've done it , and many times had it done to me over the years , even by some Christians . Guilt was used alot by my parents on me and my older siblings . It was a kind of emotional blackmail. And us siblings did it on each other . I didn't just go on guilt trips in my former years ; guilt plagued me most of my life . Whether it was guilt or false guilt , it had the same awful affect on me . And then after I was a believer , I had little , if any real relief after continual confessions of sins . I think my freedom from guilt came only after I began to believe in the Gospel message of Gods Grace . And that has been a slow process but we'll worth it , even though at times I also began feeling guilty for not feeling so guilty . I'm 64 years young, and still learning to rest in the Agape Love of God in Christ .✝️🆓🇬🇧

  • @holla_j
    @holla_j Жыл бұрын

    Im honestly in a toxic cycle of struggling with sin, giving in (caving), feeling guilty, feeling like I have lost my salavation, confession and round and round I go. Somtimes I wonder if my faith is doing more harm than good. Then when things don't go well for me in life, I feel like God is punishing me. I always like seriously God!? Then I start questioning God, because I don't feel like being caught in the middle of His and Satan's grudge match! Why subject any of us in one way or another to this grudge match just like in the Book of Job (oldest book in the Bible). Hands up for anyone that signed up for this. Honestly, God can take me anytime he wants. It's not death I fear, but the suffering we are all subjected to prior to death. We live in a fallen world, reliant on man made schemes (banking money etc) and we are completelty dependent on a fallen world for our every day survival. I believe I speak the truth as im a believer, but also a realist. I would love it if Mark could expound more on this topic.

  • @ey6545

    @ey6545

    Жыл бұрын

    I highly encourage going through all of Mark’s materials on this.

  • @JedStevens1234

    @JedStevens1234

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mark I’ve had guilt ever since I was young . Guilt over everything . Grew up in abusive alcoholic home . Makes me feel far from God and I’m unworthy . Jesus I trust you and know that you are my healer .

  • @shellbell8062

    @shellbell8062

    Жыл бұрын

    I have gone through similar patterns in my thinking. I have my own small business and when the sales are not so great I tend to think that God is “teaching me a lesson”. To make it more complicated I then think about scriptures where God rewards those who are obedient to Him and it feels like that confirms what I’m thinking. I have at times felt upset at God that He is “punishing” me for not being perfect. Like I can’t win because of course I will never be perfect. Thanks to Mark’s work when I find myself in these condemnation loops I stop myself and think “ok, I’m now going to rest in Gods unconditional love”. It feels almost like cheating- like I’m using His grace and taking it for granted. But over time I’m feeling relief and a security that I have never known. And yes, this world gets darker by the day, as we were told that it would. But our Father will not forget us or leave us out in the cold and dark. He is faithful and we know who wins in the end!

  • @raf5.13
    @raf5.13 Жыл бұрын

    Only God knows how many crisis your words have helped me through, Mark. I thank God for your life and ministry.

  • @alliebahbah7139
    @alliebahbah7139 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve just recently found your channel and oh so glad I did!! I have done multiple searches on “trust” and “condemnation” but not found much at all to get to the heart of the matter. While I have struggled so much with knowing I’m saved, after much digging, it is because I have trust issues and in a constant cycle of condemning myself which triggers the trust”will He catch me?” feeling. I don’t like to think of it this way, but because I seem to be so focused on condemning myself, this shows me how much pride must be at work…which of course is another great excuse to condemn myself 😩Hamster wheel!! I’ve only gotten so far as to start repeating things in my head like “Christ died for my sins”, and “therefore there shall be no more condemnation…” If anyone has a particular video of Marks or which of his books to start with, I’m here for it! God bless y’all!🙏🏼

  • @user-ig2pp9kf1o
    @user-ig2pp9kf1o2 ай бұрын

    I was a pervert for many years because of my childhood. I've been plagued by guilt because of the evil I allowed in through pornography. I have been blessed to confess this darkness to some brothers who prayed with me and did a deliverance practice. I was more peaceful that night but still needed help sleeping. The next morning I awoke and was bombed with something I didn't confess during deliverance. But I've been on this road long enough and he listened to Mark for about a year so I am more equipped to face this compulsion. The devil tried to use me to take me out. I am no longer a slave to fear however though it tried to enslave me. I have decided to live and forgive myself and point the finger at the accuser and speak life over me. I am a child of God and it is the Father who causes me to walk up rightly before Him. The Grace of God falls on me like rain and I receive His love. Join me my friends in forgiving ourselves by giving our heart permission to allow God's love in. He is not the accuser!!

  • @Codyraylee
    @Codyraylee Жыл бұрын

    Mark I got diagnosed with ocd last November for this specific compulsion. This means the world that you posted this. Grateful for you. Hope to meet you one day

  • @maryteplova437
    @maryteplova437 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Mark! It has become harder to cope with OCD during the war in my country. Some addictions have joined to it to deal with fear, anxiety, loneliness, feeling of unprotection (when your beloved ones are so far away). I became so vulnerable that even had dated with an unbeliever because I felt better when someone who 'cares' was by my side day by day. Sometimes it becomes a nightmare. But in the meantime I have never craved for Christ in my life like this I think, and has become more serious in showing the love of Christ to my fellow citizens, especially ones who have been suffering much more than me.

  • @phphotos3431
    @phphotos3431 Жыл бұрын

    You just dicribed me totally! I thought I was the only person on the world to feel all these things

  • @nicoleanthony9398
    @nicoleanthony9398 Жыл бұрын

    This is so real and exactly what happens

  • @jordyn_shorts

    @jordyn_shorts

    10 ай бұрын

    For starters, I'm not trolling nor am I crazy, I'm being serious I'm getting these new coach glasses in 2 weeks. Coach collabed with Disney. Christians nowadays say that Disney is demonic and we shouldn't partake in anything that is dealing with them. This is freaking me out since I already made the purchase on the glasses, and I really want them. Am I doing something bad? Is this really demonic? Is God going to be mad at me if I get the glasses? Please don't judge me.

  • @tee1763
    @tee1763 Жыл бұрын

    Love love love your videos. Keep it up, Mark! ❤️🙌

  • @laneoliver
    @laneoliver Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Mark!

  • @deleneclaassen4842
    @deleneclaassen4842 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely 'spot on'. Thanks Mark.

  • @jayheinz4624
    @jayheinz4624 Жыл бұрын

    Really good Mark!! I've got a triple black belt in guilt! and the belts for dealing with it! Grew up Catholic and in a strict house and developed a real sensitive conscience over sensitive. Went up and down the guilt treadmill many many times and severely 20 years ago! Even though I had done counseling had been told how to let go but didn't realize there was more to it. Anyway I help people deal with guilt and also getting in touch with thier anger,,,, that is a big key to depression and guilt. Also yours back I realized I had religious PTSD but not until recently in viewing some of your videos that I really understand that I had religious tormenting gut burning OCD.. I spent many years trying to deal with it in many different ways healthy and unhealthy but also by drinking beer ,,,cuz no medications seem to help.. so cheers to you, while I'm listening to this and having a cold one🍻😁

  • @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    Жыл бұрын

    What must we do to receive the forgiveness of sins?

  • @jayheinz4624

    @jayheinz4624

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LetsTalkBibleOroville are you asking me, because you do not know? Do you want to know how to be saved and have all your sins forgiven?

  • @jayheinz4624

    @jayheinz4624

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LetsTalkBibleOroville isn't it interesting, that in the gospels, Jesus never asks anybody to come to him for forgiveness of sins?? For eternal life or salvation.,, But he does ask them to do one thing... And this one and only thing ,over 99 times, to be saved. 😁

  • @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    @LetsTalkBibleOroville

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayheinz4624 thanks for responding! I stream live every morning. Will you join us? I would love for you to become part of the chat! PLEASE!?

  • @lovelifeang2154
    @lovelifeang2154 Жыл бұрын

    This is so good and MUCH NEEDED!!! This has happened to me

  • @JenniChiodo
    @JenniChiodo8 ай бұрын

    Oh my this is so good Mark!!! Thank you!!!

  • @ericmartinez9105
    @ericmartinez9105 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you brother Mark I've been struggling with this everything you said hit on point .Thank God for your words

  • @estelleclements5515
    @estelleclements5515 Жыл бұрын

    Mark, thank you so much for outlining the battle with OCD guilt/confession, this is so helpful and uplifting too!

  • @randycryer1214
    @randycryer1214 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks mark much love brother to you and your family and the people you minister too

  • @beautyforashesisaiah6137
    @beautyforashesisaiah6137 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this it's exactly what I struggle with! I'm so glad you went through this and now what was meant to harm you is bringing about much good!! Your sharing on this topic is so helpful. I'm going to share this with a friend in hopes that she will be able to understand my torment and anxiety around confessing. Thanks so much again! God Bless You Abundantly!!

  • 6 ай бұрын

    This video has reached me at the most crucial time. Thank you!

  • @olympia.i_rea
    @olympia.i_rea Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this very insightful and educational video

  • @MusicalMaze-tm3ey
    @MusicalMaze-tm3ey11 ай бұрын

    My biggest thing is the verse 2 Corinthians 10:5 "take every thought captive and make it obedient to Christ" so I'm constantly focusing on whats in my mind and making sure there are no intrusive thoughts that come. But idk if I'm taking that verse out of context.

  • @prairiegirl9188
    @prairiegirl918811 ай бұрын

    Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this!!!!!!!

  • @Godsgift2mee
    @Godsgift2mee Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I feel hopeless because of look for others with my EXACT compulsions and get sad feeling alone. Confessing is my MAJOR COMPULSION. then i see some quote scripture backing the claim. Mt fear of losing my salvation has had me trying to atone and make restitution for all of my wrongs. It's like I can Admit I've done some wrong but then it's like where does it ever stop ??! I don't believe grace exists for me. Or rather I don't grasp what grace is. Is confessing to earn salvation a worl or morally right if I've actually committed an offense against God and or man. My fear is that failing to make amends or restitution for sins will cause me to lose salvation but somethings I'm too scared to confess to anyone OTHER THAN God

  • @Jesusandmentalhealth
    @Jesusandmentalhealth Жыл бұрын

    So so good and so helpful. Very timely. Was thinking about my compulsive confessions to God tonight and came across this.

  • @moshibudithelma991
    @moshibudithelma991 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark when I came back to God I had done and committed so many sins and I started getting serious with God again when something will come into my mind I will think God must be convicting me of something so I will do what the thought will tell me but I never got relieve or closer to God after that now I know that it was all in the mind God doesn't bring confusion and accusations in my mind thank you so much for this I enjoy your channel 🙏🏾

  • @theologytherapist
    @theologytherapist Жыл бұрын

    I really love when you spoke on Toxic Guilt. I find that many of my clients suffering from Religious Trauma Syndrome are facing many of the same issues you described here!

  • @leeannchavers3343
    @leeannchavers3343 Жыл бұрын

    You are awesome 👍 Thank you

  • @jordyn_shorts

    @jordyn_shorts

    10 ай бұрын

    For starters, I'm not trolling nor am I crazy, I'm being serious I'm getting these new coach glasses in 2 weeks. Coach collabed with Disney. Christians nowadays say that Disney is demonic and we shouldn't partake in anything that is dealing with them. This is freaking me out since I already made the purchase on the glasses, and I really want them. Am I doing something bad? Is this really demonic? Is God going to be mad at me if I get the glasses? Please don't judge me.

  • @davidlegkodukh6969
    @davidlegkodukh6969 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking is Encouraged, But Solving Problems is strongly discouraged.

  • @dianedupuis9973
    @dianedupuis99734 ай бұрын

    #Me Too!! Great video Mark...ty....seems like alot of "catholics " (like me) are struggling with this...what a shocker!!.... im 75 now..ive been on that long road for a long time,its good to know im not alone an im still "saved" an loved by God...God Bless ❤

  • @marinasvete927
    @marinasvete927 Жыл бұрын

    Marc first I want to thank you for your channel and bringing hope for Ocd sufferers and giving whole new level of setting free from any kind of anxiety and building relationship with God. I have a question, tipe of OCD so called false memory ocd. It brings such a confusion to the mind. Guilt. I just dont get it. Its like I dont know nothing at all anymore. When we recover will our heart know what happened and what was always false? Just need some kind of relief and hope in this moment. Thank you so much.

  • @dja192
    @dja192Ай бұрын

    I think what drives the OCD thought pattern involving sexual thoughts might have something to do with that Scripture that says that if you look upon someone with lust … you’ve already committed adultery with her in your heart. I believe that it drives that line of thinking whereby a person can feel that their thoughts mean that you’re guilty.

  • @asijahjett2904
    @asijahjett2904 Жыл бұрын

    Story of my life

  • @Teresitaaaaa
    @Teresitaaaaa2 ай бұрын

    Yes scriptures are suddenly everywhere telling me to confess. And if I don’t I feel like I’m not being holy and living a righteous life and will go to hell. Jesus forgive me, I learned from my mistakes.

  • @champchamp4819
    @champchamp4819 Жыл бұрын

    Hey I feel like giving up on my faith with God! I feel Christianity has done more harm to me than good and is the primary cause of my ocd! Christianity causes mental illness… it sad because faith is important to me but I’m about to truly give up to this…

  • @idek.2737

    @idek.2737

    Жыл бұрын

    i have thought this way but that’s not the answer for us. i hope we all can see that and believe it to be true. i hope you feel better rn!

  • @ccozy8226

    @ccozy8226

    Жыл бұрын

    don't give up, God loves you so much. remember what Jesus says about feeling burdened. Matthew 11:28-30 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Christ has already done everything that needs to be done. keep asking God for help and remember that you don't have to be perfect. you're not God; He's already done all of the work. just ask Him to help guide you in the right direction and ask Him to help you with your faith. Christianity doesn't cause mental illness. God does NOT want you to feel this way. think of someone who you know loves you unconditionally. they would do almost anything for you! and God loves you so much more than even they do. so please try and remember this. i'll pray that things work out well for you. God bless you.

  • @j.aravena2158

    @j.aravena2158

    7 ай бұрын

    Had the same conclusion a year ago and now even if I think having faith is really reasonable, its still feeding my bad mental health

  • @YeshuaKingofkings
    @YeshuaKingofkings Жыл бұрын

    🔥🙏 spot on.

  • @Livia14104
    @Livia14104Ай бұрын

    OH MY GOSH THIS IS EXACTY WHATS HAPPENING TO ME

  • @BEsum1different
    @BEsum1different3 ай бұрын

    🥴 🤚 making you ask for forgiveness of things you know you didn’t do but the amount of guilt being pounded in you you’d do anything to make sure your right with God

  • @LetsTalkBibleOroville
    @LetsTalkBibleOroville Жыл бұрын

    What must we do to receive the forgiveness of sins?

  • @glendagajsek-shears3890
    @glendagajsek-shears3890 Жыл бұрын

    Then what if you are in the other end of the scale when you think you should be confessing and repenting but then you don't?

  • @glendagajsek-shears3890

    @glendagajsek-shears3890

    Жыл бұрын

    I use to feel alright with how I was praying in the past when I would be generalising my prayers at the end of the day e.g. Lord please forgive my sins that I do and don't know and thank you for everything... Then years later "convictions" you are not addressing confessing or dealing with your sins. Or really thankful

  • @johnrainsman6650
    @johnrainsman66505 ай бұрын

    Help me .Do you think "lies" and "excuses" to God can come in the form of "intrusive thoughts"? I think, when I'm making excuses to myself, I "hear" or "Think" them "to" God. It's confusing, I know. I'm fine with lying to myself, but not to God. But I'm tired of apologizing for dishonesty and confessing I might've lied or used an excuse. It's really bad OCD, religiously. Maybe something subconscious and/or in the moment triggers the "lie/excuse" and then I think I just lied to God or gave him an excuse? Like I said, it's confusing.

  • @cartercieszynski2394
    @cartercieszynski23946 ай бұрын

    If anyone has been through this and knows how to make it stop please tell me because I worry that it’s bringing me away from god

  • @elysehenderson3598

    @elysehenderson3598

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve been through this and I’m still journeying through. The key is resistance and learning to be still. At times our “peace seeking” actions keep us from experiencing freedom. All I can tell you is that this journey is (at times) wildly uncomfortable, but God will give you grace to get through. Just be easy on yourself and take it one day at a time. I’m praying for you. ♥️

  • @user-rv1nu3jl1s
    @user-rv1nu3jl1s7 ай бұрын

    anyone taking medication to deal with this?

  • @jessicarowling
    @jessicarowling Жыл бұрын

    How do I email you

  • @Chupie77777
    @Chupie77777 Жыл бұрын

    How do we apply the multiple warnings about hell from Jesus Himself? It seems like He does use fear/punishment based communication

  • @Elven.

    @Elven.

    Жыл бұрын

    I see it that He spoke for everyone. Some people would amend their lives by hearing they can end up in hell. We have to ask Him which part of His message is what we need to listen to next. At some point something will be hard to hear, but I don't think Jesus wants us to approach Him only thinking about Hell

  • @yamomma5053

    @yamomma5053

    Жыл бұрын

    For a believer theee should be no worry about hell because hell is only for those who have not accepted Christ..has nothing to do with your daily sin or struggles. We often times have heard hell is for those who sin and that’s not the case..hell is for those who have rejected the gift of salvation given in belief of Jesus Christ as lord

  • @Elven.

    @Elven.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yamomma5053 Yet mortal sin is real and Confession is a Sacrament instituted by Christ. Note that He didn't have people confess sins to Him directly during His public life, but he gave that ministry to his Apostles. That's to emphasize that we cannot just confess our sins to God directly.

  • @yamomma5053

    @yamomma5053

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Elven. all sins are mortal we know when we sin and ignorance is no excuse ! Regardless those who accept Christ are coveted from EVERY TYPE OF SIN! There’s no big small or better sin! The only sin that is unforgivable is rejecting they Jesus is the son of man’

  • @Elven.

    @Elven.

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@yamomma5053 I don't think theology is not up to what is easy for us to accept. I put my trust in the fathers and doctors of the Church when it comes to theology. Modern understandings of faith are rather hippie and simplistic