I have 2 of these in a pretty high end set up. Audio physic main speakers. Mono amps. Dead silent pre. Top DAC. It’s a very good sounding system and decided to add these to see what they offer. They don’t add as much as REL have you believe. They are out to sell them as they are a business. In my honest opinion they add something, they are good, but not that much as their chief designer suggests or their dealers seem to suggest. Two of these set me back 5k uk pounds. Was the upgrade in sound worth 5k? Absolutely not. I don’t say this out of anger buying them as my dealer was extremely happy to take them both back for a full refund, as agreed. I decided to keep them and they look really nice too! I just want others to know that they should not expect miracles. It will improve the sound, but not that much.

Great video. Thanks. Maybe in future videos, talk about the inputs, show the back of the unit. You could have also mentioned the box has so many coats of paint on it. Just some input.

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Will do on the inputs. Trying to keep the topics under 5mins, but will return to report on more details in the future!

Great review. My thoughts precisely when i had added my S/510 into my system...mind blown with many smiles that went on for days and days! I plan to add a second one to my system someday, but one has provided wonderful listening experiences the past two years. One negative is that the cabinet is painted in black lacquer...i.e., only black lacquer. In other words, there is no clear coat! As a result, you'll likely want to do what I did...namely, cover the top with a black vinyl film which can easily be removed if i ever decide to upgrade without fear of scratches being everywhere. That was needed because simply dusting will cause microscratches regardless of whether you're using a micofiber cloth. Why they did not add a clear coat defies logic (e.g., would allow you to polish out microscratches with ease). Keep up the great work. I'll look forward to seeing how you evolve your channel. Good luck.

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

Heck yeah, we’d love to have a stack on each side! Interesting about the lacquer. We haven’t had an issue yet with our other models, but will definitely consider especially if we stack them. Thanks for your reply!

@davidbee8178

6 ай бұрын

Hey Artemis - I work in high end pro car detailing . . . if you are getting swirls and micro scratches you might want to upgrade your MF cloths - those too have levels of quality - a VERY plush M F used VERY lightly as a duster with NO pressure whatsoever, will be just fine . I've had NO issues whatsoever.

@Artemis_Prix

6 ай бұрын

@davidbee8178 Hi David, I also am a car enthusiast and have all of the Rupes polishers (3x), pads, compound, etc., needed to run my own detailing business...my cars are very clean :-) With that said, and though your comment has merit, it's not that simple. This is not simple dust, it's CA dust, with a little particulate matter mixed in (we live in SoCal). My point is that the lacquer is incredibly soft. I had polished it to get the microscatches out, and then the following day had used a microfiber cloth to remove a simple smudge, and low and behold, it created more microscratches (there was some dust that had accumulated as well). It was at that point where it was clear this would be a losing battle, and so I polished again and then added black Vinyl film on top to completely protect the surface. You're right under normal circumstances, but the combination of environmental dust that I have with the soft lacquer finish makes for a challenging situation.

@davidbee8178

6 ай бұрын

@@Artemis_Prix Hi Art . . . thanks for expanding on the unfortunate problem you are facing - sounds like the "dust" carries a form abrasion that attacks the soft paint on the REL . . . yikes! You came up with an innovative solution :-) Nice to be able to relax and enjoy your S/510 without the negative side effects! Great sub BTW ! :-) I'm enjoying mine for sure . . . (minus that form of nasty dust!) here in the Great White North (Montreal :-) Cheers and happy listening!

@Artemis_Prix

6 ай бұрын

@davidbee8178 Thanks for the kudos. As is often said, sometimes you do what you have to do. In my case, enjoying my S/510 without worrying about the finish 😊 Stay warm my friend 👍

I second the motion. Actually make that "I second the E-motion" :- ) I recently added the S/510 to my system . . . never looking back. IF ever I went for TWO and could afford it, I'd get two N0.31's But that's just me being greedy :-) But the S/510 is a miracle worker, no sweat. When REL recommended the S/510 over the T/9X for my Dynaudio Heritage Specials in my small room, I thought they were trying to "upsell" me but I'm sure glad I went with their advice. Not only is it as superb sub, it is packaged to a fare thee well and the QC is simply amazing. Happy listening !

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

That’s awesome, totally agree! Happy listening to you as well!

@davidbee8178

6 ай бұрын

@@MediaHead. Thanks Mitchell!

@davidbee8178

6 ай бұрын

@@MediaHead. Hey there Mitchell - in my review of your review :-) I forgot to mention that IF as of the day that you posted your video you had had your S/510 for only ONE day, you must be getting even HIGHER fidelity performance from it by now, right? ! As a fan of the many very helpful John Hunter REL videos, you might surely have come across his "break in" video in which he outlines the importance of running it in for at least a couple of hours at a pretty high volume when you and the wify and kids are out having lunch (as long as the initial turn on - from brand new out of the box - volume is brought up and set gently for the first 15 or twenty minutes that is!) I'm bringing this up more for the benefit of new REL owners because you know this already Mitchell, but John Hunter says that it won't do to just run in a new sub even for 24 hours at low or "normal" volume because the driver surround just won't soften up enough for optimum performance at normal listening volumes. And I can assure anyone that that is certainly the case ! Nice video because you come across as both knowledgeable and humble (a nice combination LOL) and BTW those Martin Logans of yours are very nice too with a good match to your S/510 :-)

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

I had it on the 12 hours before the video to do some form of break in, but I am sure it needed a bit more time. I'll be sure to update after its broken in!

@davidbee8178

6 ай бұрын

@@MediaHead. OH! That's GOOD! 12 hours IMHO ought to be sufficient (as long as, according to John Hunter, your S/510 was working pretty hard during a couple of those hours :-) I found that anything after a couple of days of continuous running at medium to reasonably high levels brings small incremental changes. I found another little uptick in bass resolution after adding a 3 meter long Basseline Blue cable - cheers and thanks for getting back to me. P.S I'd like to know YOUR feelings about the Bassline Blue cable if you opt to try it out!

Hi. I went to the REL website and went to their Speaker Pairing section. They recommended the Carbon Special with the 12 inch driver for my Focal Utopia Evo Colour bookshelves for my stereo setup. I am also worried about losing some of the lower mids/higher bass I’m tending to think the Carbon Special will leave a hole in that area. I’m thinking the S/510 is the better choice. What do you think?

@MediaHead.

28 күн бұрын

Really depends on the room, as long as you entered the room size correctly i would follow their recommendation. The Carbon special driver is as light as the S510 driver while moving more air and having more power, so I doubt you would lose any performance in the lower mids.

@kevinl6231

26 күн бұрын

Thank you very much. REL did recommend the Carbon Special for a medium sized room, probably because the Utopias are super fast.

Have you phisycally tried the HT 1510 in your chain? If yes, have you used the Airship II to make the Predator ready for high level connection? This how I using it in my stereo system. With that the 1510 changes “nearly completely”, makes it more reactive and way quicker than with the standard RCA connection. I’m not saying that makes a better musical subwoofer than the S510 as I don’t have both to compare.

@andyburnett8012

5 ай бұрын

Yes the H T can be connected high level using the Air as you say, the sub is then receiving the same signal as your speakers are getting so reaction time is improved. The Air high level input then connects to the 1510 low level RCA input, with a bit of tweaking the H T will then be able to act like a standard REL high level input sub and be just as effective in two - channel as well as being an amazing A V sub.

@attilakovacs773

5 ай бұрын

@@andyburnett8012 Yes, that's how I use it. I just wanted to highlight this to the creator of the video because with the Airship 2 this sub is a different animal than with the RCA. I've asked John Hunter on Saturday at the Bristol Hifi Show. He said if he would be asked to categorize the 1510 with airship as a musical sub, then he would say it's on the same level as the 812, but sounds different. He mentioned a customer who asked them to install a pair of 1510 with Klipsch Cornwall's and he said it's mind-blowing. I think to buy an Airship 2 is a must to the 1510 if you want to use it for stereo as well. For AV LFE you don't need it of course...

@andyburnett8012

5 ай бұрын

@attilakovacs773 Yes you're right with the airship high level input the 1510 performs well, I was at Bristol too and spoke to John Hunter about how the 1510 works for two channel. He explained it in length and did lose me a bit as he got a bit technical, but I understood what he was saying. My wife Rachel runs REL in bridgend, I also spoke to Ben the technical guy in Bridgend, he's going to work on setting up a 1510 with the airship this week as he was keen to hear the results.

@MediaHead.

4 ай бұрын

I actually only tried this recently. GAME CHANGER

Which Rel sub would be fast enough to keep up with a Magnepan LRS+ ?

@MediaHead.

4 ай бұрын

Rel's sub finder would be a good place to start. Would likely recommend t7x for a medium sized room.

@spudpud-T67

4 ай бұрын

@@MediaHead. Thank you, I didn't know they had a 'sub finder' on their website.

Tekton 4 10

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, not in the same class... Tekton makes great products, especially for the price, but the 4 10 is more comparable to the HT/1205 MkII or similar priced subs such as the SB2000.

@Audfile

6 ай бұрын

@@MediaHead. really? Fascinating. Can you elaborate further?

Crack it open..

@MediaHead.

6 ай бұрын

Would need a sledge hammer....

One day with the sub, i guess hes the authoritie to listen to...lol.