The Naaru should just have said: "I turn you back into a form Tyrande wants to bang" And Illidan would be on board in no time.

@Amplifymagic

6 жыл бұрын

z3yjIn deepest lore.

@valentintourtois2618

6 жыл бұрын

The funniest thing about this is, tweak the vocabulary a bit, and it would have worked. Xe'ra going "You sacrificed everything ... Even love ... Do you not want to see it restored?" Boom. Angellidan incoming.

@Satherian

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly the point: They could've easily convinced them, but were all 'prophecy *must* be fulfilled, you have no choice!'

@garytaylor3880

6 жыл бұрын

Luz Destruy Ealmund Tyrande would never give up her love for Malfurion anyway. She chose him and the quest line in valsharah shows how deep that love is. She wouldn't leave Malfurion for Illidan no matter what form he's in and Illidan knows that

@ArakkoaChronicles

6 жыл бұрын

I like to think he finally moved on past that. I mean, he's been more lucid than ever since his resurrection, and I don't think he mentioned Tyrande once.

Xe'ra was not prepared...

@s4juno693

6 жыл бұрын

She need to be LV 110 XD

@victorpopescu5813

6 жыл бұрын

wageboy U made my day😂😂

@Scrumshiz

6 жыл бұрын

*obligatory upvote*

@89blackguard

6 жыл бұрын

of course, she needed to raid Nighthold and Tomb of sargeras on mythic. Not getting anywhere near Illidandy with under 940 ilvl. She'll know after the corpse run

@sonnyankou8720

6 жыл бұрын

Xe'ra knew that would happen.

"Bright Lord, Dark Lord, Same thing really"

@andersoncruz8393

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, dems, reps

Illidan “dont touch my tats” Stormrage

@simonisho

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan "I am my scars" Stormrage

@SumThingFawful

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan "IT IS NOT YOURS TO TAKE" Stormrage

@Shiirow

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan "I forge my own destiny" Stormrage

@gasmanoo

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan "It´s not a phase, mom" Stormrage

@michaelstudeny8848

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan "just call me Illidan" Stormrage

Xe'ra: "you've sacrificed so much for so little...I mean, come on. Maiev is way thicker than Tyrande."

@Karen-qm2ib

3 жыл бұрын

lol

"I AM MY SCARS!" That line is so freaking epic

@Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas

Жыл бұрын

It was one of the coolest lines I've ever heard in all fantasty or sci Fi.

Illidan: *"I am my scars!"* Me: *CRAWLING IN MY SKIN...*

@stardustcomet4714

6 жыл бұрын

Me: *THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAL...*

Seeing the change in Turalyon's eyes color, maybe the phrase "Your faith has blinded you" was meant literally. ;-)

@anevilstripper6095

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, it really did seem like mind control.. Which holy magic does have an influence over. (Source: Confession, pain suppression and other mind(particularly emotion)-altering holy spells) Eyes turning golden, then taking a few moments to fade back to brown even after she stopped glowing. The reflection excuse can not explain this. Also this is more fun to believe ;)

@KelltheTitan

6 жыл бұрын

Grom's eyes would glow red in the presence of Mannoroth after drinking his blood. Guldan's weren't much different. Turalyon's brown eyes? Golden in the presence of Xe'ra. Something is definitely fishy about that. Blizzard aren't the types to do such an obvious callback without it having some sort of meaning.

@amirmostafa7258

6 жыл бұрын

Kell Kullodire they both wrong

@haithemnasri8175

6 жыл бұрын

Nap it was reflexion There was light (thats how his eyes went goldy but then an emo guy turned the light off so the over optimistic guy has no longer golden eyes )

@kreuzfeuer1742

6 жыл бұрын

But his eyes change from golden to brown even though X'era's shards already were on the ground and there was no emanating light?

I cannot get over how epic this cutscene is.

@joeyflubbermuffin7227

6 жыл бұрын

It is two months later. still not over it.

@darkstorm2579

Жыл бұрын

Five years later and this cutscene is still epic.

Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below - Il'gynoth

@thecowboyscorner

6 жыл бұрын

Mechphantom good point what if xera was the she referred to with the whole 3rd death whisper

@cruros9084

6 жыл бұрын

Oh SHIT that line makes so much sense now

@trebah662

6 жыл бұрын

Mechphantom my god it's true

@sirkalilak6841

6 жыл бұрын

Someone give this person a medal

@izaiahbartley3377

6 жыл бұрын

as nobbel said, sargaeras and the naaru dont see good or bad really. they only see us vs them. So i don't think its too outlandish to think that all this legion stuff is a test from sargaeras to see if we are ready to face the voidlords.

Xe'ra: The light will heal your scars! Illidan: IAM MY SCARS! Xe'ra: The light is your destiny! Iliidan: MAIEV IS MY DESTINY!!! Xe'ra frienzoned! On the other hand, Illidan accepts all his life and mistakes. He is what he is. Thats the right path of redemption, without shortcuts

@randjan8592

6 жыл бұрын

Well, ironically, I think everyone would grow to respect him as "the chosen one", if he got "light boosted". I think either Maiev or Tyrande would actually fall in love with him and understand his sacrifices or something like that. His brother would finally accept him. There's really this tiny thing, Maiev is a real purist, she doesn't even like arcane magic, because Illidan used to be a practitioner of the arcane and what he is now. It would be an easy way out, in a way. But Illidan likes to be edgy and all that, he likes to do cool shit that makes people hate him. Except the ones that blindly follow him...do they have a freedom? oooh... :O

@fumarc4501

6 жыл бұрын

Akiorah You ship them? I ship them... this makes us Allies.

@ShadowFri3nd

6 жыл бұрын

Edgy and Badass are two direfent things.

@carlosc2104

6 жыл бұрын

`kind of unrelated but it's funny how maiev interacts with illidan specially since 7.2. with the "run again from me and I will shackle you like the beast you are" and the "oh illidan my bad If I hit you with my blade you look alike those demons we fight hehe "

@friccle_

6 жыл бұрын

Akiorah as someone said. xe'ra was not prepared

"Those who stare into the sun for to long go blind; similarly, those who dwell in the dark lose their sight" no words for better

@theshambler6814

6 жыл бұрын

'Fit

Xe'ra: YOU ARE GONNA EAT THE LIGHT, AND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT!!!!!!

@refurbishedtechpriest9076

6 жыл бұрын

*"If you don't eat your Light, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING!"*

@kinu4u

6 жыл бұрын

"Open wide and stuff it down your throat!!!" ... Illidan : "Bitch please!"

I AMM MY SCARSSSS!!!! *goosebumps intensifies*

@buldren0101

6 жыл бұрын

I desperately want this to become the new Illidan meme to replace the "You are not prepared" cliche

@tobiaspetris5336

6 жыл бұрын

dat was cool tho

@bartoszn1609

6 жыл бұрын

Arief Zul *edginess intensifies*

@naalir6120

6 жыл бұрын

Bartosz N just jelly for illidaddy biiatch

@bononoz2948

6 жыл бұрын

It already has. At least on reddit, with I AM MY AP!

"Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced" "but not forced on me" -Illidan

@michaeltheboombringer2848

6 жыл бұрын

That quote means that fate must be changed, just as he said. Our destinies are our own

@Xainfinen

6 жыл бұрын

Sometimes adverb occasionally, rather than all of the time.

I can understand Illidan. I remember some people saying that the Naaru are *too* holy and good and that there is something fishy about them. The Void and the Light are the two opposites of the universe, basically locked in an eternal struggle. Both only have one end-goal: Destroy the others, by all means necessary. It's such a great cinematic, because it shows that even those with the most noble intentions can lose themselves, their principles or fall to darkness on the way. The road to hell is paved with good attentions. Often those who seek to do the most good get blinded by self-righteousness and become fanatic, turning their once noble goal into a twisted caricature. The symbolism with Turalyons eyes is also great. I love this cinematic, because it actually shows one of the biggest dangers in life as a whole: Falling to darkness, because you wanted to do good.

@Miko-vi8vq

6 жыл бұрын

Will you make Germany great again?

@theshambler6814

6 жыл бұрын

This cinematic restored my hope in the story of WoW

@DISTurbedwaffle918

6 жыл бұрын

Except the force of Light is genuinely morally good on an objective scale. The entire point of the Light is healing, protection, and order in the Universe. It is a source of objective morality, and any "immoral" actions taken by servants of the Light, in order to serve the Light, are morally just in the war against immorality and chaos.

@IronShocker77

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it wasn,t a Light Naaru that corrupted Sargeras and started everything bad. The light is still the good side of the coin. Xe'ra was acting weird since the start, there's something wrong about her. She's not a regular Naaru.

@KisiroKitsune

6 жыл бұрын

DISTurbedwaffle918 That's not true. The Light is just a type of magic and it doesn't have opinions or morals any more than fel or arcane do. Just look at the Scarlrt Crusade or Adherents of Rukhmar, they commit atrocities and evils while using the Light. All it is is a magic like any other.

"The Light has betrayed me!" -Death Knight Anduin

@justnoob8141

6 жыл бұрын

Anduin? Not Arthas?

@Thatscrazybro130

6 жыл бұрын

Just Noob from hearthstone

@HeroAndReporter

3 жыл бұрын

This comment aged poorly

@ianboord8896

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeroAndReporter ya it did

I'm a little surprised everyone watched as Xe'ra raped Illidan.

@T4RC

6 жыл бұрын

I'm a little surprised everyone watched as Illidan destroyed the Lightmother.

@snowwolfsabertooth

6 жыл бұрын

I'm a little surprised as well, but I welcome people seeing it that way. It makes me realize an amazing thing has happened in our world.

@MirageGSM

6 жыл бұрын

Well, given the three people shown in the cinematic I'm not, but MY character was supposed to have been there as well, and he certainly wouldn't have. In fact during the cinematic I itched to frost nova or sheep Turalyon when he went for Illidan...

@makaramuss

6 жыл бұрын

she actually tried to rape him in some way... he tried to change his body in some way rape is bad thing because you forcing someone to use their body for you and this was actually like this :/

@Amphitera

6 жыл бұрын

it happened all quite fast, but my character (supposed to be there, right?!) would have jumped to his defense when Turalyon attacked. Stupid light zealots >:(

I fuckin love the music played in all wow cinematics when Illidan is on stage

@NoahWeisbrod

6 жыл бұрын

Those five notes are my text ringtone.

Is it me, or did it feel like the most badass moment for Illidan in whole WoW? I really didn't care much about his appearances in Legion so far, but this was just so good and so fitting for his character. :3

@Amphitera

6 жыл бұрын

definitely. Maybe even the best cinematic for him ever, including WC3. I love that his character has evolved from "need more power to do the right thing" to "decline power if it's against my principles of free will" over the years.

@theycallmebad

6 жыл бұрын

Fredrik The way you're arguing shows just how little you know. Explaination is wasted on you.

"I AM MY SCARS!!!" My new favourite quote from this game.

So happy they took this direction with Illidan. Illidan isn't a bad guy. But he isn't a good guy either.

@aureliodeprimus8018

6 жыл бұрын

Illidan, one of the best anti-heros in gaming.^^

@pontusnordin2343

6 жыл бұрын

Giovanni Arena He's clearly a good guy at this point?????? The naaru was obviously fucking corrupted or smth get real

@Dovahnuke

6 жыл бұрын

I love that they're going this way with legion where no character is purely good or evil..even the naaru, and the legion!

@carlosc2104

6 жыл бұрын

wait a second, don´t forget all the shit illidan did since the war of the ancients, warcraft 3 and the whole TBC. he is bad. yes his goal is the same as ours but that doesn't make him good. illidan can be described as "the end justifies the means". literally

@KOHoxton

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not a bad guy, I'm not a good guy. i'm THE Guy. -Roman Reigns

The cinematic runs a DEEP philosophical message that I assume only a few really catch. It was 10/10 and my favorite cinematic of all time. Illidan, GJ son

Her surface blazes bright, Masking shadows below. -Il'Gynoth, Heart of Corruption

@WormyMaster

6 жыл бұрын

Bekić Nemanja Now we know what that quote was referring to. Just about 15 left unsolved... :D

The Void and the Light are flips of the same thing, both only having interest in destroying the other, and both use similliar means. The Void actually seems more up-front about it than the Light, which is a truly terrifying prospect. This also puts reason as to why the Legion is afraid of the Light and Void at once: they know it is a twofaced lie (take the Inquisitor's reaction to bringing Light's Heart to your orderhall as a warlock. This means we've seen that all 4 sides of primal energy have the same goals, and why I expect eventually we will take on the Light, Arcane and direct Fel aswell as the Void.

I don't know if this is where Blizzard is going with this but I like the idea of the Light trying to "corrupt" all living thing so they can become pawns against the Void, and in the end, we discover that the Light is just as bad as the Void and start defending ourself against it too.

@refurbishedtechpriest9076

6 жыл бұрын

It'd be interesting, but I doubt they'll go that far. If nothing else I think we're going to find more Scarlet Crusade-esque themes played-up on with the Light. Armies, organizations, and powerful individuals who technically serve the Light, but be it due to desperation or warped mind-sets, they still commit evil acts.I wouldn't be surprised though if we do find ourselves butting heads with the Light in future content.

Illadin's sacrificed everything. WHAT HAS XE'RA GIVEN? (The Reaction of All The Demon Hunters To This Cinematic) This trailer has so many good moments in it... I like the part where Illadin says "I am my scars." because that has so much meaning to it... Also how the cinematic ends...

If memory serves the Naaru ARE the source of the Light powers for both holy priests and paladins. Horde paladins (blood knights) originally got their powers from a captured Naaru they forced to give up its power. Of course by TBC end the storyline was after Kael'thas defeat and the restoration of the Sunwell other Naaru returned, forgave the Blood Knights, and allowed them to use the Light again. The whole cinematic only felt off in that it was "forced". We saw from a previous cinematic The Legion deceived the original draenei (eredar?) by appearing as beings of Light, and pretty sure they did as well to Azshara. What are the odds the Void aren't doing the same now? They need to corrupt Azeroth ASAP, what's stopping them from attempting the same deception to using us as pawns to stop the Legion and let them waltz into Azeroth uncontested? Also a little off-topic, but has it sunk in exactly HOW LONG Turaylon And Alleria have been gone? They left at the tail end of tht First War, have the lore community wrapped their heads around how much has happened since? When they left, Lordaeron was still a thriving human city. Jaina was a whimsical apprentice. Orcs were still super-evil. Quel'thalas was still WHOLE. Forsaken, Worgen and even Blood Elves didn't even exist yet. The SCOURGE didn't exist, nor the Lich King. Hell while Alleria is aware (and not believing) her sister leads the Horde do doesn't even know she was killed, revived as a BANSHEE, broke control of an undead monstrosity, and is now leading a nation of undead humans. Almost entirely created from the corpses of the city of Lordaeron (which was still alive and well when they left). This is a MASSIVE head-trip, and it makes me wonder why they aren't reacting to Forsaken, Worgen, Orc, Tauren or even Troll players. Remember Alleria did server at hunting and skirmishing with the Armani trolls back then.

@theshambler6814

6 жыл бұрын

Simple. Drugs all the drugs.

@refurbishedtechpriest9076

6 жыл бұрын

Good question regarding why the Void Lords aren't forcing their wills on others like Xe'ra tried to do to Illidan... Though I think they technically have done so on numerous occasions, only not quite in the same manner. Because we don't know much Void Lords, its hard to say what's stopping them really... Here's my take on it though. While the Light has the Naaru, the Void has the Old Gods. Both fulfill the same purpose more or less: Spread the Light or Darkness/corruption, enthrall followers, ????, profit. To this end, the only thing keeping the Old Gods from doing what Xe'ra tried to do to Illidan is the simple fact that the Old Gods have been imprisoned and weakened for thousands of years. And even then their influence can still be felt, be it directly or through corrupting artifacts. And keep in mind that whenever we combat the Old Gods in the game, there's always some gradual but forceful form of mental influence they begin to have on mortals. So to that end, I think Void HAS been doing the same thing, just a little bit differently. Keep in mind this is just how I'm interpreting the situation posed by your question. I could be wrong.

"Force the light Down your throat"🤣

Naaru are into some weird bdsm stuff geez

@anssiaurum264

6 жыл бұрын

Hermann FEGELEIN!!! That weird bdsm stuff is called rape

@anevilstripper6095

6 жыл бұрын

All BDSM acts are 100% consensual(Source: in the scene), this was just rapey! Bonus fact: The 50 Shades series completely misrepresent BDSM, and the community is disgusted and enraged at what the ignorant author portrayed.

@marin688

6 жыл бұрын

i love you Evil Stripper, as a bdsm little girl all what you say is right

@DISTurbedwaffle918

6 жыл бұрын

@An Evil Stripper vile degenerate

"The closer to the light you get, the bigger your shadow becomes." -Intro to KH1.

This is such a wholesome video. I'd love to see more of your reactions to the new content. I also love the added lore at the end.

I predicted this shit when we first met Xe'ra. I knew she'd offer him power I knew he would not accept it.

@Generalizedfeelings

6 жыл бұрын

Murphio It's so good though right? Him denying power so easily. When before he would have taken that offer. So many things have changed.

@Thunterise

6 жыл бұрын

Wow you are so cool wow

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

It's amazingly awesome, it brings the ideology they've been building him up for in Legion all the more. Also the cinematic was cool too, they've always been pushing their limits to bring movie-like goodness to us.

@buldren0101

6 жыл бұрын

I have to wonder though if Blizzard planned this all along or if the originally decided they'd go along with the Holydan prophecy mentioned in the Illidan novel and then changed it due to the backlash it got.

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

That is a good question. Of course I didn't "Know" they'd go with this, but I kinda had an idea of where they were going. I think This may have been the idea all along.

Illidan is clearly a LOT more powerful than we thought.

@Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas

Жыл бұрын

Read the book "Illidan". You'll find how how strong he becomes

Thank you so much for all of the videos you do. I don't play WoW much since LK expansion but I have always kept up with the lore. You are my biggest source for the information I get. I appreciate all you do.

hi Nobbel, SWENBK here just wanted to say thx for upploading reactions to the cinematics =). can be hard to catch your streams whit work and IRL stuff so thank you =D

I wonder if they're going with a "Army of the Light is corrupt" angle. I don't mean corrupt as in evil, I mean corrupt in the same way the Scarlet Crusade is. Zealots, bent on their holy mission and willing to do anything to see it through. Keep in mind the forces from Azeroth are being lead by Illidan, who thinks strict adherence to the light is a weakness and Velen, who judging by his quest dialog right after the cutscene, is done taking orders from Naaru. Comparatively, the Army of the Light are in stark contrast (note how most of the named ones we've seen in action seem a bit...blood hungry). To me it seems that they've been fighting so long they forgot what they were fighting for to begin with.

@suntiger745

6 жыл бұрын

The Army of Light strikes me a bit like the Protheans against the Reapers. They fight on, but they are slowly loosing and get more desperate as a result.

@wittyreviewer

6 жыл бұрын

I see it a bit more like the Space Marines in WH40K, they may have had a cause once but by now they've been fighting so long they're devoted more to their 'side' rather than reason. Ergo, any methods are acceptable because their magic glowy god thing told them it's ok. Remolding Illidans body is an obvious violation of his right to choose but Turalyon on particular seems pretty chipper about letting it happen. Even Velen himself thinks Illidan had a point and the Naaru have a habit of demanding things whether you like it or not. The Army of the Light are the good guys by virtue of them not being the bad guys, so to speak.

@suntiger745

6 жыл бұрын

wittyreviewer That is a pretty good description. I agree the Lightforged seems quite bloodthirsty. It's almost like they are the Light's (or at least the Naaru's) version of demon hunters.

@wittyreviewer

6 жыл бұрын

The Demon Hunters are more pragmatic, I think. They at least admit they're doing things that could conventionally be called 'evil'. The person I was thinking of most when I mentioned that bloodthirsty remark was that priest lady you find near the Xenedar wreck, yelling at the attackers. Kinda out of character for a priest to be demanding death and destruction, no? The more I think about it the more it makes sense to me. If you look at it, the game for the last few expansions has had an on going theme of "What are you fighting for?". In Pandaria we saw the lengths members of both the Horde and the Alliance, people we've been trained to trust, will go to to secure 'victory'. On Draenor we learned to fend for ourselves regardless of where you came from, and now we're doing the same on our own planet, and succeeding. Then all of a sudden a giant glowy god thing turns up and tells us follow it? Something doesn't feel right to me.

@valentintourtois2618

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the priest comment. Even she admits she shouldn't say stuff like that. And on the ship, after Xe'ra attacks Illidan, Romuul has a quest for you, where he expresses his surprise regarding Xe'ra's attack, and says something along the lines of "I makes me wonder ... if what we do is right".

This is by far my most favorite moment in the entire game and lore!!!

You have the best lore videos ever. Thank you for all you do!!!!

I thought it was mentioned in one of the older novels that the naaru respected free will (which was why they could save Velen but couldn't stop his brothers from turning to the Legion).

Illidan saying "your faith has always been your weakness" makes me think of our beloved Paladin tirion fordring who kept incisting the light would protect him...

@bajkotamas1610

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, Arthas could have been saved. Remember when in a quest cinematic, we find Arthas's good side loked away. And when Arthas looks at it, he almost comes back. But then Tirion fucking goes all YOU MONSTER bullshit and The Lich King destroys Arthas's good side for good! And that was all becouse of Tirion's "faith" and "justice"

@harz632

4 жыл бұрын

@@bajkotamas1610 Light is what creates shadows. You cannot have something good without having something bad, and it is never the other way, a shadow can not exist without light, it is the lights existance that created these shadows.

Xe'ra should have used Maiev's methods by imprisoning him in a Vault. Seems like it's hard for those two to keep Illidan as their elven boy toy 😏

@Machinens

6 жыл бұрын

Asura Wilson You're not wrong dude

Very cool video! When Turalyon went for Illidan at the end, I was all "Hey, I'm in the room as well, why don't I get to sheep him?" :-) Was a bit surprised that Illidan was able to one-hit a Naaru, though. We haven't seen too many Naaru doing meelee so far, but I didn't think they were quite so fragile...

I love how everyone is so hyped about Illidan standing up for himself, 2 things about this cutscene are ignored. First, The first time Xe'ra says Illidans name, it's only with 1 L. Secondly, the light in Turalyons eyes literally go away when Xe'ra "dies". Goes from a golden iris to a brown one. Literally blinded by her light.

Nobbel, do you know the Video with Kadghar and "Medhiv" in Karazhan? That is the same decision. Illidan passed test.

@yomanyo327

6 жыл бұрын

what video? can you link it, or the name?

@therantingcat7891

6 жыл бұрын

yomanyo327 Khadgar was promised by Fake Medivh (Dreadlord in disguise) that he will be the next Guardian granting Khadgar powers of all Guardians that have went before him. Khadgar refuses and blasts the fake Medivh telling him that he will not repeat Medivh's mistake realizing that in order for Azeroth to be saved "Chosen Ones" should stop and it's all about fighting the war against the Legion TOGETHER and not just one man.

@gilthreyblaunce

6 жыл бұрын

yomanyo327 kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4tpq7url7LNibg.html its about the guardian power

I wanna see Illidan's voice actor say "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIYAH!"!"!""! For no reason other than it'd sound funny.

@kurniawandwiseptian

6 жыл бұрын

The Imbroglio HARRYYYHH!!!

@micasa8421

6 жыл бұрын

Youre a Betrayer Harry Im a what? Youre not ready Harry

@ilusao1111

6 жыл бұрын

Liam O'Brien would totally be up for that.

@DakuHonoo

6 жыл бұрын

i want his voice actor to make a navigation sound pack

@Perid0tStar

6 жыл бұрын

I'd have loved if Alan Rickman ever had the chance to play Illidan. He'd have walked away with that performance full-stop.

Xe'ra showed that even in the brightest light, darkness can happen The moment she try to interfere with Illidan's free will was when she was acting in darkness. Just as Velen said "The light is in all of us"

Since no one has said it yet, one might say Xe'ra *wasn't prepared*

imagine if Tyrande and Malfurion had seen this. and Maiev as well

@thehermit8723

6 жыл бұрын

Matsen115 They are used to it.....

@yomanyo327

6 жыл бұрын

i think at this point she get off on chasing him

@Extrasailor

6 жыл бұрын

Nah, Turaliyon is stronger than Maiev, what Maiev did is just an imprisson trick after Illidan was hurt by the players.I can't imagine a duel won by Maiev against Illidan.

@brightestlight9462

6 жыл бұрын

eh, maiev vs turalyon would be a good fight to say the least--turalyon might have a bit more raw power, but it's close enough where it could go either way. a stab WOULD kill both of them after all lol.

i have a theory about Xe'ra, perhaps she saw her own fate with Illidan and she was hell bent on changing that we saw how easily she was destroyed by illidan, perhaps if illidan wielded the light he couldn't harm Xe'ra. it was her that would have gave him the power of light and removing the fel. and if illidan after being empowered wanted to destroy Xe'ra she could probably remove the light from him and leaving him as a mortal that had no power against her

@gestucvolonor5069

6 жыл бұрын

Or maybe it was all part of the plan, and she has already planted the seed that was needed to fulfill the prophecy

@sofialaya596

6 жыл бұрын

oh god no

@sofialaya596

6 жыл бұрын

she's already got him pregnant!?

@crypted9275

6 жыл бұрын

How come i have the same Profile picture as you e.e

@maximumgaming6589

6 жыл бұрын

Because Illidan is our Edgelord and savior

I am happy he didn't take the gift can't Imagine illidan as some sort of a holly Angel

@Generalizedfeelings

6 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't haven taken it anyway. As he himself said "I've traded my freedom for power before" and look how well that went. He isn't a puppet by any means. The Xera wanted him to be one.

@4f52

6 жыл бұрын

Generalizedfeelings He is a puppet with "free will" a teen rebel is easily controled by anything, not only Iliedgy is helping the void lords but he also just killed the main nemesis of the void.

@lkangaroo

6 жыл бұрын

547265626f72 why can't he kill both?

@fumarc4501

6 жыл бұрын

Big duel 199758 I can. He deserves such a fate for all the lives he's ruined and pain he has caused.

@anevilstripper6095

6 жыл бұрын

" *Holly* Angel" made me think of him dressed in a Christmas outfit, adorned with decorations, sitting at the top of a tree!

you can say Turalyon was blinded by the light :3

Anyone catch Valeria (sp?) comment how Xe'ra punished her for going to the void realm? It was prior to this moment.

@GenDrake3

6 жыл бұрын

You mean Alleria Windrunner

@kitki83

6 жыл бұрын

Atlas yes! would have been worse if i put sylvanas

@samtime2711

6 жыл бұрын

Rene Martin yea, which in a way was how the story forshadoed what happed by them forcing there will on other like a Vorlon.

Lord Illidan knows the way

Nobbel, did you notice Turalion's eyes while Xe'ra was restored? They went from brown to gold, then back again after Illidan destroyed her

I love illidan(and that voice ofc!!!)..and this cutscene was amazing. Brilliant job.

Man i love you're reaction! Also you are in point with you're ur reason and response. Not like the other youtuber there who react for this cinematic and get mad of Illidan who dont even know the good reason , like common you been playing this game the whole time and you still dont know what is happening. They give me cancer. But you my friend is a wow saver! Thanks for sharing this reaction. i Enjoy the video and the reason you gave, like in my head "atlast someone understand:D". You deserve more subscription man. You're the best! :)

@fatguy5684

6 жыл бұрын

Maxi G. Your an idiot, The light is the only true path, And why didnt we just kill Illidan again? He deserved it.

I think the Yellow eyes are simply due to them being around Light magical energy for so long as many of the Draenei in the Army of the Light have them too, not to mention different hairstyles and horns than we've seen before. It seems to me like it has the power to mutate just like the Fel can. Since the Blood Elves are now technically feeding off Light energy their eyes would probably be Yellow too if a way to remove the fel taint from beings that have used it existed.

This is BY FAR my favorite cinematic in the game now. Illidan's a badass AND he is the definition of someone standing up for his beliefs and assuming the consequences of the decisions he made and still makes to this day. (Second in line is the Wrathgate cinematic, Did you think we had forgotten ?)

"Is a matter of perspective", Good point Nobbel, i feel glad that someone can point that.

Velen, did you know that was going to happen?

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

If I could see it coming, then he did too, probably.

@thehermit8723

6 жыл бұрын

Murphio Letting Illidan get a wooping? Yup.....

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't see that part, what I saw was the offer of power. I didn't think it'd become forced or the destruction of the Naaru.

@domehammer

6 жыл бұрын

Velen mentions how Xe'ra was acting odd I believe if you talk to him right after cinematic plays. So I don't think he even know Xe'ra was gonna try and shove the light down Illidan throat.

@KelltheTitan

6 жыл бұрын

Would explain why he didn't kneel when a Prime Naaru was before him.

For the first time we see how the naaru, the (mostly) polar opposite of the void, can be just as oppressive. This is not a simple story of light vs void, it's of us stuck in the middle of it.

I've never clicked a video so fast before :P Love watching your reactions, pretty much how I felt when I first saw this :)

You have found the champion of light! Main Character: Hey that was me!!

Is Xe'ra a dreadlord?

@Perid0tStar

6 жыл бұрын

You know? That may not actually be far-off. The boss from Emerald Nightmare Il'ganoth (I dunno if I spelled it right) sometimes said stuff. One thing he said was about a diamond king, which turned out to be old Bronzebeard coming back, for example. Another thing Il'ganoth said was "Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows beneath." Certainly sounds like that could have been about Xe'ra.

@GenDrake3

6 жыл бұрын

probably not a dreadlord but has some essence of void/ "shadow" growing underneath since they were created from void. Which is different from a fel dreadlord

@monkpawfire

6 жыл бұрын

well its true naaru arent pure light nor old gods pure void , naaru can become void for a reason , i think the void lords are pure void and elune pure light , pure goodness , the naaru are void and light

@Perid0tStar

6 жыл бұрын

Its interesting, because in the first Chronicles book (really good read), it said that the light was essentially there 'first', then the void formed in response. In another book (I think the Shattering, set after the Cataclysm), there was a brief interaction where Velen told Tyrande that dranei scientists came to believe that Elune was a very powerful Naaru. He offered their help in trying to contact/communicate, but Tyrande (politely) shut him down fast. I think probably to preserve their culture and so some of the people around them wouldn't overhear. They were at a dinner meeting with other world leaders, but at the time lots of people were chatting amongst themselves. In WoD, I remember they had a good explanation in the Shadowmoon Valley quest chain how that one Naaru got corrupted by void magic, but I don't completely remember specifics; just that it was said that it happened to other ones too.

@bajkotamas1610

4 жыл бұрын

Well...if nothing else...he/she/it is now a deadlordXD sry

So let me get this straight. Xera wanted him to trade power to defeat the Legion in exchange for defeating the Legion. Illidan chose to kill her so he could be free to defeat the Legion. Makes sense.

@harz632

4 жыл бұрын

Bit late but not really, he didn't want to sacrifice himself and his freedom for a shady deal at power, so far every time power came with a price, a price that is often much greater then the power given, know how Nerzhul was corrupted by Kiljeaden? he was shown that the Dreanei would kill the orcs and the only way to save his people is to help Kiljeaden and drink the demonic blood. Never accept an offer for power by some mighty being, it most likely leads to your demise and the demise of what you want to protect. Im pretty sure that if Illidan had accepted that power he would have defeated the Legion but in the cross fire of the War azeroth and everyone on it would have been obliterated, and as light always casts a shadow that would have led to Illidan a few thousand years later become corrupted, turning to the dark side and creating a new burning legion to eradicate the light.

I can't wait to see the other cinematics. The Triumvirate Sit might have some real epicness in it. And I also hope that Turalyon and Alleria will get some more dept as characters (especially Turalyon, I wouldn't like him as a pure Light/Naaru fanatic). Blizzard has a tendency on focusing too much on a single character per story arc while maybe setting the base for other things.

love the lore so far on argus, really fun!

3:20 i think it might be some kind of minor mind control breaking

@masterpotato2162

6 жыл бұрын

Jonathon Porter yea ikr its like there was a big beam of light in front of him and then suddenly it disappeared somehow?

@z3yjIn

6 жыл бұрын

I like the idea but I think its just a "glow" effect from the lighting. If the Naaru would have been orange, his eyes would be orange cuz of the light in the room.

@TheElder90

6 жыл бұрын

1:03 his eyes go from brown to gold

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

I think He and perhaps other members of the army of light were manipulated just a tiny bit. It's something that has controlled him for years, and he's been convinced that he's been doing the right thing just like how we were convinced that Illidan was "Not so bad" from Xe'ra. So, while I agree with Nobbel, yes he is angry about the destruction of the Naaru, but I think it's partly from the "Little white lies" that that thing has been telling him.

@marcioa1811

6 жыл бұрын

I know! Maybe he was under a spell? Light mind control maybe?

Reminds me little of the way the Vorlons and Shadows from Babylon 5 tried to manipulate the younger races into choosing one side or the other. One making the universe stronger through chaos and evolution, the other through order and obedience. The younger races eventually rejected both and found their own way. I also think of Xera like the second ambassador Kosh who was a total douche compared to the previous Kosh.

@samtime2711

6 жыл бұрын

Darwin Xavier well if blizzard used some of the story as the backbone for theres, where is guy or gal asking everone, what they want?

Thanks for explaining, I totally forgot about the Xera storyline we had prior to getting Illidan back *derp*

Can't wait to see how this turns out, and for Nobbel to narrate what happens ofc. :)

There is light and there is shadow or darkness.... as much as the Void Lords could be considered evil, such resides in the light aswell. Too much of one means disturbance in the balance. We dont know much about the void lords, their history and similar. We might encounter allies in the darkness and shadows in the coming expansions, who knows. For me, this cinematic shows that the light has its difficulties aswell, it is rather simple. Due to Tyralions life expirience I guess his reaction was only natural, other then Ilidan who was suffered for the greater good. I am very much enjoying your videos. Best regards!

@michaeltheboombringer2848

6 жыл бұрын

Occasionally, clouds of fractured light gathered and gave shape to beings of far greater power and far greater potential. Among these were the naaru, composed of scintillating holy energies. When they gazed out across the immeasurable universe, they saw a realm of limitless possibilities. The naaru vowed to use their mastery over holy magic to spread hope and nurture life wherever they could find it. Arthas vowed to protect his people

kek 1:34 they misspelled "Illidan"

Thank you so much for this, I keep hearing people not quite understanding the fact that the light can be used for the wrong reasons or to do horrible things.

"Sometimes the hand of fate, must be forced. . . Except when it's my fate." - Illidan

Literal lore-gasm. Illidan fanboying like fucking crazy

Do not Touch MY TATTOOS!

This is the reaction I was craving!!!! Yessss!!! All of the hype

As usual, amazing stuff

What if this us all a part of the plan? Xe'ra says in the prophecy, Illidan will be a champion of the light, no matter what, but there will be a price. What if Xe'ra knew she(?) had to die for things to unfold. Perhaps her meddling with Illidan and him ultimately killing her sets things in motion for him to be a leader. A symbolic champion of the light, not a literal one as the prophecy describes Or of course this is all at face value and Xe'ra isn't as perfectly good as we thiught she was, etc etc. Either way this is an awesome development

@Fanplination

6 жыл бұрын

It makes sense. Because in the vision, he had wings. So its clear he still had his demonic power in that vision that was detailed in the novels

@refurbishedtechpriest9076

6 жыл бұрын

I could see it going either way. Admittedly the thought had crossed my mind as well after watching the cut-scene again. Considering she had touched minds with Illidan before, communed with him through the Nether, I'd find it hard to believe that she couldn't anticipate that Illidan might refuse her "gift"... So either she was blinded by her own self-righteousness, or this really is all going according to prophecy and she just pulled a dick move in not telling folks before hand, "So I'm gonna try to force Illidan to become the Chosen One but he's going to refuse and kill me... But don't worry, this is how it has to be."

I still wonder what difference there is between Sargeras and the titans. Sargeras cut a planet with a world soul in 2 when it was beyond salvation. The titans empowered Algalon to do the same thing.

@Darkmirror7

6 жыл бұрын

Sargeras is a titan, just a dark titan who is infused with Fel magic.

@michaeltheboombringer2848

6 жыл бұрын

I know he's a titan, that's obvious. What I mean is the difference between their ideologies

@reichstag10

6 жыл бұрын

Michael The BoomBringer the difference is: the Titans want to contain the corruption and save the world souls to become titans. Sargeras doesn't fuck around and destroy everything until there is nothing left to corrupt.

@GenDrake3

6 жыл бұрын

This has already been discussed on many lore channels here on youtube. Just look up sargeras's separation from the pantheon.

@maxhill504

6 жыл бұрын

Algalon was designed to push the nuke button that will eliminate all life forms with blood and flesh(unlike the metallic titanforged) on the planet, while the planet remained intact and then the titanforged will become the only sentinent beings on the planet to protect Azeroth from any corruption. Now, you might be thinking "Why didn't Algalon press the button to remove the Old Gods?" Well, Algalon was just given the portal spell to Azeroth and nuke authority by the Titans, he hasn't been on the planet until Loken's death in Halls of Lightning which set off the trigger for him to come and investigate. The Titans could've simply told him to nuke Azeroth, but they felt as if the Titanforged Keepers did the good enough job in containing the Old Gods in their enchanted prison and it was unnecessary.

This was great. Fantastic side stepping of some obvious Space Jesus plot with Illidan accepting the Light. And this puts an interesting twist on the Light and the Naaru in general. Maybe they aren't as pure as we originally thought.

3:06 I love the ultimate expression of loregams on your face, Nobbel

quick question...would this be confirming illidan is stronger then the naaru and possably the light that alot of people worship?

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

Probably not more powerful than the light as a whole, but he has the potential to rival Titan-Forged.

@Perid0tStar

6 жыл бұрын

Well we gotta remember that the Naaru was just put back together after the crash; it probably wasn't at full strength. Plus, Illidan had the fight/flight adrenaline surge to protect himself on top of his own intense power.

@kylestephens9301

6 жыл бұрын

he destroys a prime naaru a being made of pure light wouldnt it also bestory all of them if he wanted?

@kylestephens9301

6 жыл бұрын

true

@kinu4u

6 жыл бұрын

Actually the Fel energy destroys the Naaru

This cinematic brings about a huge question about our loyalty to the Light being correct. My opinion on this whole thing is, how is the "Legion of Light" any different from the Burning Legion truly, both are fighting the void, and both empower champions to fight, if the Burning Legion had come to us in a guise of good, attempting to win over the leaders of the world, as Sargeras had with the Eredar, would we have been on the side of the Burning Legion? Both sides give power to those who obey their commands, both punish those who don't obey in their ranks (Alleria talking about been thrown in a cell for practicing void magic.) And for all that, how different then are the void lords? They empower champions, Cho'Gall, Deathwing, and seek to rid the universe of the light. Same as the Light does to the void. Sure the Burning Legion wanted to kill Azeroth's World-Soul and the Void wants to "corrupt" the planet, but in the grand scheme of things, *ARE WE NOT DOING THE SAME TO ARGUS NOW*

@Miko-vi8vq

6 жыл бұрын

The difference being that the Legion wants to destroy all while the Light wants to preserve all. Legion would make us all die while the Light would save our lives.

Illidan "Firin' my Lazer" Stormrage

"You've give so much, for so little" solid burn

Xe'ra: What is the Light without a sacrifice? Illidan: What is a sacrifice for a Demon Hunter?

First! No? Well then, at least I'm first in my heart.

I hope you make a vid covering all the little lore interactions you can find like Turalyon and Khadgar meeting back up.

Turaylon's eyes looking lit up is just the brightness of the Naaru reflecting in his eyes and nothing else.

I think he was right there. If the naaru managed to force him to become the chosen one, what would Illidan do? He would kill the naaru. The only alternative is that Xe'ra would control his thoughts and decisions, so he would be like the mindless undead of the Scourge. Now why didn't he just accept it at the start? Well he wanted to kill the Legion. And he said that the only way to fight the demons is to become like them. He has also been betrayed so many times, that he can't just trust a great force with unknown plans and purposes, even if they may seem benevolent. But trying to enslave him is clearly not benevolent. My guess is that Illidan wanted to test the benevolence of the naaru. Also, he said that the only way to defeat the Legion is to fight like them. Lots of naarus have died in the war against the Legion, would someone with a portion of a naaru's power be enough? Especially since the Illidari will break up.

This is the same viewpoint I have when it comes to god. This is why illidan is great and to be able to destroy the naaru prime that is incredible, weather your of the light, void or legion you do not mess with the leader of the demon hunters!

@davy4842

6 жыл бұрын

Bro this a game ur maybe not even 20.some scientists spent a life time reaserching relegion and joined one .its not shallow it much much deeper

@greyworld6242

6 жыл бұрын

Whycold true

@astralisk

6 жыл бұрын

Neckbeard detected

@greyworld6242

6 жыл бұрын

IMAAJJ huh?

@matsen1153

6 жыл бұрын

IMAAJJ maybe he will become a professionak neckbeard like Asmongold

This was a touching cutscene and part of the story for me, illidan as a character is relatable to me and prbably many others who have made poor choices in life and are scared eiher physically or mentally or a combo of both and one thing someone out there who is suffering day to day from those choices as funny as it sounds could look up to this scene and part of the story and illidans character and embrace that those choices and scars are who you are and not to regret them but push forward.

"I am my scars." Simply epic.

As much as I like a character not following a "Destiny", am I the only one who thinks it's kind of ridiculous that Illidan can destroy a Naaru so easily, and a Prime Naaru at that? Now I know Xe'ra was just recently made "whole" again so maybe it was weakened but it was destroyed so easily. Either it was super weak or Illidan has "god" like powers. That being said there is the theory that it's not really a Naaru and more a vision of Sargeras trying to trick the heroes like with Velen, Archimonde and Kil'jaedon so who knows. I'm just not a fan of how easily it was destroyed.

@KisiroKitsune

6 жыл бұрын

Naaru have never been shown as being particularly powerful. They're more beacons of hope. They're not front-line fighters.

@michaeltheboombringer2848

6 жыл бұрын

Well one of the novels said that they could shape mountains or sth like that, but if you read the "Illidan" novel, you'll se how powerful he is. I think even though they're powerful, they can easily be destroyed. Take O'ros for example. He died pretty easily as well.

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

I thought that too, but tbh I'm not too bothered by it due to Xe'ra being an extreme annoyance with her prophecy talk. With the way she started acting I think Illidan helped us dodge a bullet. Perhaps the Light isn't so good after all,... perhaps they seek to bath all in a cleansing light.

@Murphio25

6 жыл бұрын

An explanation perhaps, could be that it is weak for one reason or another? Perhaps still regaining power from being fractured the first time.

@renegeeder

6 жыл бұрын

DH's beam is pretty OP though, so it make sense. ^_^

FUCK I really wanted to see him in the new form...

@Mel-eo9ub

6 жыл бұрын

Sameeeeeeee! A holy, glowing Illidan with a halo? So cute! How dare you take this from me, Betrayer?!

@JamesW609

6 жыл бұрын

Iliaz 420 Hopefully we get a skin in hots

Great video @Nobbel! The big takeaway for me from this cinematic is that Illidan did not consent lol. It's certainly something to show us that the followers of the Light like the Naaru are not all goody.

I like that they show the Naru for creatures that are willing to do anything as long as it gives results. It gives a new air to the whole light-void story... though Turalyon seems like a giant Fan-boy of the light.He didn't fight or question the choise of the Prime Naru Xe'Ra to imprison Alleria, he just accepts it without even a single dought. Don't know do wanna see how they are going to continue the story.