Chevy: full four corner air suspension Mechanics: WE EAT LIKE KINGS TONIGHT

@damilolaakanni

4 жыл бұрын

😁😀😅😂

@brodiwheeler7583

4 жыл бұрын

Also cylinder deactivation fuel management 🤑💰💵

@fighter835

4 жыл бұрын

@@brodiwheeler7583 Cylinder deactivation in particular in the 5.3 V8 has numerous well documented issues from tens of thousands of owners which GM, in typical fashion, doesn't acknowledge. I wouldn't touch this thing with a 50 foot pole.

@naveenthemachine

4 жыл бұрын

Brodi Wheeler don’t forget the power sliding center console.

@naveenthemachine

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

I about lost it when you nonchalantly pulled off the entire housing for the rear center belt.

@naveenthemachine

4 жыл бұрын

Iain Bailey and here I thought gm was actually improving their quality...

@dabradguy

4 жыл бұрын

I had to rewind to see exactly what it was. Shit is hilarious

@mattspeer01

4 жыл бұрын

Standard American junk. I drove a nicely optioned Lincoln Aviator recently, brand new on the dealer lot. The driver's window made a loud squeal when going up and down, the second row seat sliding button was broken off, and some of the trim was loose. This was on a brand new $73K American luxury car. Absolutely pathetic. GM is just as bad.

@drw1926

4 жыл бұрын

Are these on dealer lots yet? If not I'll give Chevy the benefit of the doubt. It may have been a pre-production vehicle that is still a little rough around the edges.

@TheAdrianMc

4 жыл бұрын

drw1926 yeah I would say this one might be a review unit so it's been beat up and/or not as tightly built as the consumer units.

This will definitely be my next family hauler in a year or two when I can get a gently used LT in the $40k range. I need people to buy these $70k Tahoes and take a hit in depreciation for me 😁

@novalawhp

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@nodak81

4 жыл бұрын

Finding that gently used one is the problem. Every single one of these seems to have over 200k on the odometer, even the ones that are just a couple years old.

@BCCHSMD

4 жыл бұрын

@@nodak81 yup and still $30000+

@richlarson6876

4 жыл бұрын

So you'll just wait til gas hits $4/gal...

@ToyotaCelicaDude1

4 жыл бұрын

They'll take the hit in depreciation, you'll take the hit on repairs with that air suspension and the power sliding center console 💰🤑 this thing is a ticking time bomb knowing Chevy quality

13.9 MPG, all so Debra can wait in line at the local Starbucks with a slightly more elevated seating position.

@leveraged6694

4 жыл бұрын

You mean Karen. 👱🏻‍♀️

@entropy8000

4 жыл бұрын

I worked at DT starbucks so this made me laugh, Debra with her popsocket phone and app ready to go on Triple Star Day (ive even seen them have a knob on the steering wheel so they can turn with one hand

@HateTheIRS

4 жыл бұрын

Not if you get the diesel option.

@drw1926

4 жыл бұрын

Or Keisha.

@WaywardAnalysis

4 жыл бұрын

@@HateTheIRS Diesel is the only option to get for all these new SUVs with Diesel's option....will get 2X the mpg and it'll last longer

$76k for a Tahoe, WTF

@bird718

4 жыл бұрын

thats life these days

@Ubon94

4 жыл бұрын

Buy it and you will be a cool kid 😎

@brokeduece1691

4 жыл бұрын

I am just angry I'm not the targeted consumer

@tubemember21

4 жыл бұрын

No, no. Good American consumers are supposed to think of the monthly payment, not the total price.

@rogersmj

4 жыл бұрын

@@tubemember21 Only $400/mo for 200 months.

11:51 That face as he looks down at the housing for the rear middle belt. hahaha.

“The roads out here in southern California are pretty terrible” * stares in Louisiana *

@devilsrighthandman769

4 жыл бұрын

Try Minnesota. 9 months of snow and 3 of construction.

@Jaymac720

4 жыл бұрын

I Downvote All Ads - 3 months. I laugh at thee. Construction can go on for much longer than that here. The right lane on a major expressway has bedb blocked for months. I think they’re trying to add an interchange with a street that goes over it, but it’s been nearly a year and nothing has changed. There’s also been construction at an interstate interchange and I have no clue what they’re doing. All I know is that it’s been going on since before the summer and not much has changed

@Orginal_Sinner

4 жыл бұрын

“Laughs in Michigan “

@devilsrighthandman769

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymac720 you didn't read what happens the remaining 9 months...

@Zenbee723

3 жыл бұрын

Los Angeles streets can be like Fallujah because we don’t budget for winter wear like the east coast. If you want to bust a kidney, try driving a Ferrari in Silverlake 😩

I'll keep my 2000 Suburban with 111,000 miles on it for now. I paid $30k cash for it. Shows you how much they have gone up in 20 years!

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

Hamburgers aren’t ¢79 either.

@gosman949

4 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 they were not 79 cents back then. More like $2.00. GM makes more profit off of their Tahoe and Suburban's than any other vehicle in their line-up. They gouge the consumer and we take it!

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

Jay G. In fact, hamburgers sold for $.79 at McDonald’s in 2000. GM makes the most profit off of the Silverado, Sierra and Escalade, not Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon.

@gosman949

4 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 you remember better than me. I bet cost of food is still cheaper now than compared with highway robbery cars and trucks.

@michaelhorner4011

4 жыл бұрын

Your 2000 Suburban will go another 100k miles no problem. I don't think these modern day engines with cylinder deactivation and direct injection will last as long as your 2000 engine.

I got a chance to mess around with the new Tahoe yesterday, and I loved it! And this is coming from someone who generally isn’t a fan of GM vehicles.

I love that feature too Alex, every SUV should have a rear liftgate window that opens. Preferably a slide down one like on the Sequoia. It's a shame manufacturers including the ones that use it just not in every SUV that would definitely put the U in utility. Also finally the Tahoe and Suburban have a independent suspension. Better ride and rear cargo and passenger room. The old design was horrendous for families that needed it. Great review Alex 👍🏼

Alex truly shines well in this Tahoe review vs. other channels. His thoughts are mine. Chevy only needs to go all LED lighting and stop faking on the incandesent turn signals. Otherwise the ride quality and seating ergonomics are spectacular. Such a joy learning from Alex's insightful auto intellect.

Been eagerly awaiting your first review. I’m actually interested in the Yukon Denali and Escalade versions, but this is close enough for now.

You’re the best, Alex. Thanks for another outstanding, thorough review.

Hello from Michigan! Glad that you came to visit!

Glad they kept the V8. It’s the benchmark. Looking forward to your Escalade review.

11:48 i love how the trim piece holding the seatbelt to the ceiling came off. LOL

@brettfleming5921

3 жыл бұрын

I choke laughed so hard.

76k is way to much for this SUV. I will keep and continue to enjoy my fully loaded Telluride.

@deviouslaw

4 жыл бұрын

Not directly comparable. A rav4 is also cheaper than a 4runner. You pay a premium for a real body on frame suv

@andybub45

4 жыл бұрын

Hope you dont need to tow

@deviouslaw

4 жыл бұрын

@hiroshima thompson if we want to get into a conversation along that line of thought, why get the palisade or telluride over any number of minivans? After all, you will save some money and serve the need for a family hauler as well or better.

Love Alex’s reviews!

Looks like a nice drive through Palos Verdes! It's nice to see the new Tahoe driving though my old neighborhood!

11:51 was that the ceiling assembly for the seat belt?

@rabayl01

4 жыл бұрын

THAT'S CHEVROLET QUALITY BUILD FOR YOU!

@jamess3417

4 жыл бұрын

@@rabayl01 GM

@jamess3417

4 жыл бұрын

And no, it looks like just the ceiling trim piece

@tjsean0308

4 жыл бұрын

@@rabayl01 I loved how the suspension and headlight knobs both looked like they were about to pull out of the dash too.

@rabayl01

4 жыл бұрын

@@tjsean0308 Yep. I won't be surprised if that giant screen falls out after 5k miles. Haha.

Alex, I’ve been watching this channel for years and you’ve always done great car reviews. The reviews keep getting better and better. I also wanted to point out that somehow you look younger than you did years ago. Great job staying fit and healthy and giving us great content. The people who watch these videos care a great deal more about vehicles than watchers of other channels do.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

4 жыл бұрын

Aww, you're too kind!

GM has to be out of their damn mind if they think I'm going to spend my hard-earned money for that. It won't be worth half that amount in 2 years.

@llcross04

4 жыл бұрын

vvvVFANGSVvvv I agree. Many Americans will gladly pay 700+ per month for their vehicles now.

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

You were NEVER shopping for that class anyway, so who cares?!

@kromahj

4 жыл бұрын

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

@EchoSigma6

4 жыл бұрын

Timothy, they produce these vehicles because GM knows there is a market and demand. They charge those prices because they can. I'm an average wage guy but there are plenty of folks and businesses that will have the budget for these SUVs. There is a lot of technology in these modern vehicles, they are nice when everything works fine but what scares me is the repair cost once out of warranty.

I love the trailering technology. I have it on my Silverado. Backing up and getting the ball right under the coupler is so easy now. I can also do a light check to make sure brake lights and turn signals are working. And I can display the trailer tire pressure and temperature on my infotainment screen.

@tallll70

4 жыл бұрын

I can actually turn all my vehicle light bulbs front and rear on individually if i want to with my android phone on 2013 pickup truck :) ... alfaobd magic , but yes, those automated programed light checks makes it simple, i use to stuck break pedal with screw driver and shifted reverse with emergency break on, lol

Another great review Alex.

I really like the way the Z71 package looks

Oh my goodness. $70k and you don't get an Audi quality interior? That looks like the same Chevy crap from days gone by. Oh, plus a widescreen.

@dsugioaga

4 жыл бұрын

I don't particularly care about the Tahoe either way but the Audi Q7 is smaller (especially third row) and more expensive (both in base price and fully loaded - especially, if you consider that Chevy dealers usually give you good deals off MSRP). The Q8 is also smaller and much more expensive. As for quality - Audi is notably below the other luxury brands, so I wouldn't exactly tout THEM as an example for that...

@notsoserious0944

4 жыл бұрын

@@dsugioaga They just don't do nice interiors. No dog in the fight, I will never be able to afford a Chevy. LOL. Can you believe I just said that? I'm used to thinking "I can't afford a BMW, Audi etc. but Chevy?

@austing4321

4 жыл бұрын

Audi is far from the standard for a quality interior. I'd say this is just as depressing as the most recent Audi interior designs but with less shiny, gimmicky screens to distract from the cheap build. For 70K, you should be getting a Lexus, Genesis, or at least Mercedes quality interior. I mean the Hyundai Palisade fully loaded is like 30k or more cheaper with a FAR nicer interior along with better reliability records so... 🤷‍♂️

@notsoserious0944

4 жыл бұрын

@@austing4321 Yeah, pick your favorite interior. Chevy ain't one them.

@austing4321

4 жыл бұрын

@@notsoserious0944 In terms of luxury brands, the new Genesis lineup. The G80 particularly. That's my favorite. Second favorite would probably be Mercedes's interiors or Lexus in third. For non-lux brands, I like Hyundai/kia interiors, Mazda, and Toyota's newer designs. I also think some of Nissan's new interiors are underated

The grill makes no sense at all. Just trying to take up space.

@greg1894

4 жыл бұрын

I make no sense and just take up space

@silentrefusal9911

4 жыл бұрын

@@Word-Life try saying that to any new Lexus.

@craiga7652

4 жыл бұрын

It's all the rage now...

A stunning beautiful vehicle. The Tahoe and the Yukon has to be at the top of the list of new designs for the very popular Tahoe. I love it and HOPEFULLY one day I can afford one ‼❤🇺🇸

Thanks for this one, Alex. The other reviews have been a LOT more about the bling of this new generation. Even for a short intro, this one had lots of beef. I was expecting a little more comment on the payload; the 1,000# or so you mentioned seems quite low. ESPECIALLY because of the unique capabilities of this new generation, I'm really looking forward to your future in-depth review. Again, thank you!

I just can’t get past that scary front end👹☠️🙀👎🏿👻👹

I believe Jeep will have a competitor with the Chevrolet Tahoe/Suburban and Ford Expedition/Expedition Max models with the upcoming Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer, I'm curious to see how it will compete against them.

@rightlanehog3151

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Loving the pilot luggage ✈️ !

The Tahoe was a mommy car. Now the Z71 looks like a beast with that grill and aggressive wheels. I’m drooling over it. I thought my X5 looked aggressive. Now it feels puny.

How do you manage to give so much information so crisply and densely packed

THANK YOU!!!

They can keep them at those prices.

I WISHHHHH they would bring back the 2 door Tahoe. I miss those.

Boz Scaggs? Are you going to give us the Lowdown on this Ta - ho?

Gorgeous vehicle.

As the sticker of these near $80k - I think I would look at a slightly used BMW X7 with 5000 miles on the clock for much less money. X7 is slightly smaller inside but the interior is worlds apart. GM still has what looks like a rental car interior. The wood grain is still plastic - even in the $85k High Country edition.

@kens97sto171

4 жыл бұрын

Wait for those repair bills. German cars suck.. endless money pits . GM is not great either.. as far as reliability, but service and parts are much much cheaper . Just do a comparison on what an oil change cost or some other basic maintenance. Be interesting to price compare the BMW with the same features. Full air suspension and magnetic ride etc The BMW can only tow 5900lbs. So not really the same abilities either.

@naveenthemachine

4 жыл бұрын

kens97sto171 just buy a Toyota Land Cruiser or sequoia. Or even the lx570 or gx460

@kens97sto171

4 жыл бұрын

@@naveenthemachine That would be better choice.. reliability wise I drive WAY too much for a gas hig like that.. and I have no need I'll stick with my old boring Prius. 12 years old, 331,000 Miles. Still gives me 45-47mpg. Total cost per mile is $0.07 . Fuel, maintenance, and tires. Pretty hard to beat

@naveenthemachine

4 жыл бұрын

kens97sto171 331K!? Did you have to replace any hybrid components like the battery or generator?

@kens97sto171

4 жыл бұрын

@@naveenthemachine Nope. Still on original battery. The motors are in the transmission. If you change the transmission fluid every 50k they last forever Hybrid packs are getting cheaper.. new one from Toyota is about $2500 now. I just changed the struts, but all the other suspension bits.. tie rods, ball joints, control arm bushings are all still original.

76,000 dollars??? Who would spend that on this? Ridiculous prices for vehicles. This thing will be worth 20,000 in a year on used market.

@juvibro9913

4 жыл бұрын

You are tripping if you think this thing will loose that amount in value. You should go back and take some general math lol.

@kens97sto171

4 жыл бұрын

@@juvibro9913 He's definitely off on his math a bit. I would say it's probably going to be worth half in three years plus. Might be able to knock 20 grand off it in 2 years. But that's $56,000.

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

First off, they actually sell at around 18% below MSRP and 3 year old ones sell for around $40k. The demand for them is high.

@juvibro9913

4 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 yup 2016s with 30-50k miles still are listed at 30k

@EchoSigma6

4 жыл бұрын

Buyer beware of modern vehicles,the cost to repair/replace electronics is high. That fancy infotainment screen is nice but once it fails you have to replace because lots of important information and vehicle function to reliant on it. Fancy vehicles with fancy repairs.

Alex, for how much you like this Tahoe, would you consider it over your Durango?

What happened to the rear seat tablets?

Has GM improved the door opening (first and second row) so you can get a men's size 11 foot in the door and footwell without strange contortions?

The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily

Alex, Lets hope GM builds 3 tons of QDR into this Tahoe.

@Jaymac720

4 жыл бұрын

What does that mean

@rightlanehog3151

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymac720 Quality, Dependability and Reliability

@jhill4874

4 жыл бұрын

Especially WHEN the a/c goes out after the warranty expires. Used to be about an $800 job, but now costs over $4000 because of component placement. Save $50 on assembly, cost the customer 5x as much for repairs. Plus the extended use of plastic. I'll keep my 2002 Tahoe.

Ha! As soon as Alex said this vehicle is $76K, I quit watching. Nice review, up to what I saw, Alex, but the price tag makes me shiver.

@andybub45

4 жыл бұрын

Its a large SUV, of course it will be expensive! Do you want it to be 15k or something?

@HateTheIRS

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man for 76k you could buy multiple Honda accords, you could buy a high trim level 2500 diesel truck for 76k.

The storage area next to the infotainment system fits sunglasses. I think that is what it is for, since the top area is full of new knobs and switches it didn't have room to fit a sunglasses holder. the compartment actually goes in and up a little so my large framed sunglasses fits perfectly, felt lined as well for protection.

What is the card reader looking thing on the left of the steering wheel. Next to all the buttons.

Super fun.

Combination tail lights on a $55000 SUV? What is wrong with these people? I honestly thought GM would move away from cheap stuff in this generation. My mistake

@andybub45

4 жыл бұрын

They did in many areas. If you wont buy a car cause the rear turn signals are incandescent, thats a problem.

@Jaymac720

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew M there’s also the matter that a lot of features that should be standard on such an expensive vehicle simply aren’t. Radar cruise control? Nope. It’s optional. Ventilated seats? Gotta pay up. Also, the headlight knob was wiggling all around as Alex was turning it, and the trim piece for the middle seatbelt just came right out as he grabbed the belt. That’s the kid of build quality you’d expect in a $10000 subcompact hatchback, not a $50000 full size SUV

@scobo4743

4 жыл бұрын

You're buying the size the powertrain and the practicality. You probably would be happier buying a Korean make.

76K which is probably 20K too much...

The highest I could get the configurator for the Z71 model was $70,661, not sure how to get it up to the 76k you mentioned.

In future reviews, can you include a lift-over height for the cargo area? Some manufactures don't provide it, and it would be helpful to know.

Just got a High Country, love it! Agreed the Z71 grill and wheels was a turn off for me. Really didn't want the 6.2 engine, but only way High Country comes. Still don't get how the engine shutting off for 1.8 seconds at a stoplight saves any fuel. Always seems like it shuts off right before time to take off again.

It has Active fuel management on all the cylinders so that all the valves fail at 100,000 miles instead of just two sets, and bright red tow hooks so that you can find them in the dark when it needs to be towed to the dealer. When the quote to repair the air suspension is outrageous, people will still spend a fortune to have it converted to a conventional suspension which is how GM should have designed it in the first place. I'm also certain that it comes with a litany of standard defects like high oil consumption, transmission shudder, and Stabilitrak problems. Buy it, and drive it right to the junkyard so that the materials can be used by a manufacturer that knows how to design a vehicle.

Let’s hope gm also builds some reliability into these as well.

Can the central sliding console split logs ?

Is the DFM a high mileage reliable engine? I hear they are having problems. Idk

When will you do the full review?

Agreed that Premier has the better front end.

Most trim levels come with the 5.3L engine yet all real life towing test that I have seen are performed using the higher end trims with the 6.2L engine which cost a lot more money. When you do your longer term testing, It would be great if you could actually test the Z71 with its 5.3L engine and available HD tow packages while towing a trailer at close to its max. Tailer tow rating going uphill and downhill. That would be more meaningful as most people would be reluctant to shell out the $$$ for the Premier or the High Country trim lines.

I'm in the market for one of these but I'm really disappointed with the styling. I honestly preferred the styling of the outgoing model. This thing is homely as all get out. I need to see what the Yukon is going to look like, or hope Ford does a mid-cycle refresh of the Expedition soon, because the Tahoma is off my list for the time being.

Nice, big, comfy and.....expensive! Are we heading for 10 year financing?

LOL. The road here in upper California are really terrible. Come for a drive in Quebec and you will reconcile with your tarmac!

@rightlanehog3151

4 жыл бұрын

Ontario is just as bad.

NICE!!! VERY NICE RENTAL CARRR!!! COMING TO RENTAL ENTERPRISE NEAR YOU!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

@EchoSigma6

4 жыл бұрын

Rental cars are going bankrupt aren't they? Hertz is gone. Enterprise has furloughed a big chunk of their staff. Not too many flights and need for rentals compared to pre-pandemic days.

"The shoulder belt (and its ceiling frame) for the center seat position comes out of the ceiling... [*WTF-stare]"

Good lord that’s expensive

Alex could you please add two elements to your graphics? 1) Estimated range based on EPA combined MPG and fuel tank capacity (some cars are surprisingly short-legged, like the new Mustang). 2) A flashing warning and a loud buzzing sound before showing prices of non-premium blue collar salt of the earth working man American SUVs.

Actually the Tahoe has 7-9 passengers configurations.

$76,000? Wow, What happen to the $50k Tahoe. Not worth it. IMHO. Push button shifter, Hell no!

That iPad infotainment screen is utterly hideous. Ford got it right with their 12 inch center stack screen.

Can you still get the LS trim with the front row bench?

@mountainhobo

2 жыл бұрын

Split bench, yes.

The Z71 has a light/dark grey interior thats much nicer. The suspension in the rear was redesigned for independent suspension and coil springs, so even without the airbags, there is still no leafs Edit: The suburban will have an even smoother ride due to the longer wheelbase

GVWR please?

$76,000 for a Chevy Tahoe? Do you get an auto loan or a mortgage?

@llcross04

4 жыл бұрын

Haha. I’m most cities, you can buy a condo with that type of money

@keith6371

4 жыл бұрын

Average price in my city for a medium size house is 1.5million dollars, my house, a very modest one, is 2.3million, welcome to 2020

The Z71 is my favorite, it looks like a truck. The higher trims are ok if your driving to the country club, but i much prefer the truck look!

Chevy has lost their minds with prices. This thing is way overpriced IMHO.

@ktpinnacle

3 жыл бұрын

One never buys American for MSRP. You can already find these well discounted.

@Ryan2022

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck getting a discount now the demand is huge and they now sell product not price if you wanna get something for cheap go get a Korean car

That front end though... Pukes.

Top trim Telluride or Base Tahoe?

The small compartment in the dash is for sunglasses ;>)

Electrical center console? Sounds ridiculous at first but with all the weight of the stuff that can fit in, it's probably more than what the driver can manually handle when the car is on a slope.

What trim do you need for ventilated seats?

@homelessmillionaire1

4 жыл бұрын

The 80k trim

@jghall00

3 жыл бұрын

The Mercedes GLS trim.

Its really sad that the good old American column shifter is replaced by touch buttons. I wonder if it will ever comeback...

I guess we can only cook bacon in a minivan. I think it's a pity. This Tahoe looks very nice and if I had a rich uncle that had died and left me a lot of money, I'd buy one with the air suspension and loaded up as far as I could, probably with the diesel.

Alex likes big...trucks. 😂

If it wasn’t for Ford releasing their more refined Expedition, GM wouldn’t have given us this good of a Tahoe/Suburban. As a GM fan thank you Ford for lighting a fire under GM’s a**. It’s a win for us customer’s

@jrs9264

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Woohoo!

Every time I see these not towing something, I’m lost to the idea of what these are for. These are nice tow vehicles, but if you’re not towing, woulnd’t a TransitConnect van be the better people mover/stuff hauler for 1/2 the price?

@rightlanehog3151

4 жыл бұрын

And cheaper

@EdMiF

4 жыл бұрын

TransitConnect = Zero Swag 😂

I'm not gonna buy this, cause I don't have the money ! 😂😂😂

0:40 power failure?

How long until that power sliding console breaks.

@rod22lt

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe never...how many years do power windows/locks etc last? What’s to say this is never an issue

@TheFoxwiz

4 жыл бұрын

It's more likely the transmission. About 50k miles or less.

@WhoPonders

4 жыл бұрын

its a Chevy, not that long

$76K? I remember Suburban selling for $20K+. I am either getting really old, or people have gone insane paying those prices. Maybe both.

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

That only shows how old you are.

@mountainhobo

4 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 Well then, oh young and smart one, go ahead and spend $76K on this SUV.

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

mountainhobo Why? The GM and dealer discounts bring it down to $55k.

@mountainhobo

4 жыл бұрын

@@afcgeo882 Then buy it. Don't talk, buy it.

@afcgeo882

4 жыл бұрын

mountainhobo Thanks for your permission, Boomer! You must be some Soviet comrade.

Damn they really missed the ball on those tail lights

They’d have to do a lot to make me ever consider one of these things. I hate the appearance of the new Tahoe and Suburban (all the ridiculous looking grilles are over the top). They’ve gone insane with the pricing too. My grandmother has a last-Gen fully loaded Tahoe and driving it is a chore. It feels like it’s even more massive than it is. I drive large trucks on occasion (dump trucks, semis, etc.) and they feel easier to place in your lane than the Tahoe. The outward visibility, like GM’s Silverado pickups, is poor. The hood was taller than the windshield glass and prevented you from seeing the road ahead. Inside quality is middling at best. I haven’t driven or seen a new Tahoe in person, but I have driven it’s cousin, the Silverado 1500 and Sierra 1500. I can only imagine the overall experience isn’t that much of an improvement on those vehicles. When I drove the GMC Sierra 1500 Denali with the 6.2L V8 and 10-speed automatic I wasn’t impressed. The 10-speed transmission occasionally stumbles and shifts roughly and it’s constantly shifting. I prefer ZF’s 8HP over the GM/Ford 10-speed. The 5.3L and 6.2L V8 don’t offer the potent low end thrust competitors’ turbocharged V6/I6 and turbocharged V8 engines offer. For the amount of money GM wants for a Tahoe or Suburban today, I would much rather have a BMW X5 or X7 with either I6 or V8, Range Rover Sport w/ the Supercharged V8, upcoming LR Defender 130, Mercedes GLE/GLS, Tesla Model X, or Audi SQ7. I just can’t imagine paying over $80K for a TAHOE! I remember when you could get a Suburban for less than $30K... it wasn’t even that long ago. GM has nearly increased the cost of their trucks and SUVs by 75% in the past 15 years. A base Tahoe now costs nearly $51K! Way too much in my opinion.

Within a year, you'll be able to regularly get 10-15% off MSRP, which should help those that have just discovered that vehicles depreciate. As soon as Nissan and Toyota discover that it's 2020 and they might consider investing in a new version of their SUVs instead of marking up 2000 technology to 2020 levels, they'll be pricing their rigs at this level too. The GM and Ford pricing for their top end rigs put them in Land Cruiser territory, but it's tough to by an LC with 2010 tech and design in it. If GM gets dinged for design, so should Toyota.

@ktpinnacle

4 жыл бұрын

@@Word-Life Definitely Defender territory, and it's a rig that I've looked at very closely. I like it quite a lot. But I'm a buy and hold guy. I can't over the feeling that after enjoying the Defender that it will let me down. And once it starts to shed parts, that it will cost more to repair than this Tahoe/Yukon.

Looks like a big Malibu on the inside

Looked at the Tahoe and Expedition this weekend. Liked the Tahoe a little better, but the comparable Expedition is marked down $12-13k while the 2021 Tahoe’s are sitting at sticker price! Yikes!

Has the diesel been confirmed as an option for the Z71?

@andybub45

4 жыл бұрын

No.

@ktpinnacle

4 жыл бұрын

No diesel for the Z71, due to the front end redesign to improve the launch angle.

i would like to see the GMC Denali