Don’t go to Dick‘s if you feel that way about ammo and firearms they did the exact same thing. I don’t shop there either.

@Anonymous0.019

14 күн бұрын

My wallet speaks louder than any political stance, whoever has the cheapest price for the item I'm looking for is where I'll shop.

@TisiphonesShadow

14 күн бұрын

@@Anonymous0.019 And that's why you are a slave.

@JimRodgers

14 күн бұрын

Good point, when Dick's quit selling firearms I quit shopping at Dick's.

@rachaelpreston8976

14 күн бұрын

I avoid Dick's as much as possible. I prefer REI or EMS. If neither store carries what I want, I'll look at other outdoor shops, even Amazon before going to Dicks.

@jcmilleker5449

13 күн бұрын

Same. We travel 3 hours to go to Cabelas. Dick's is ten minutes away.

Cabelas went to hell in a handbasket when BassPro took over. Nothing but junk now

@eaw7582

14 күн бұрын

Both became hedge fund company's.

@hilltopperblog

14 күн бұрын

Hyperbole alert!

@timburton9514

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely. Bass Pro stuff is garbage

@USNvet1980

13 күн бұрын

Amen to that

@hilltacklerthebackpacker

13 күн бұрын

Exactly! Heavy garbage

Back when I joined the REI Co-op, one of the reasons you were willing to pay a few dollars more for an item was the lifetime guarantee. You could return the item at any time for any reason. They’ve since changed that, it’s down to one year, but haven’t really dropped their prices to reflect the change in policy. The only things I buy at REI, now, are things that have a consistent price across multiple retailers because I still get reward dollars toward future purchases. If I’m going to be paying the same amount whether I buy it from REI or somewhere else, I might as well get a discount on future purchases.

@bthemedia

5 күн бұрын

Besides their anti-2a stance and politics, the Rental/Return Equipment Industry can provide some customer loyalty benefit but also be abused by others. The garage sales do provide some good values fortunately. I used to shop REI as my primary source, but once they turned against 2nd Amendment I try to shop elsewhere at all costs.

@edwardmcgrath1388

3 күн бұрын

They lost me when they ended the ability to cash out your points. I've bought tons of camping gear from them and filled my gear closet. I didn't need more. The rei MasterCard points funded most of it. Being able to cash out those points was a definite plus. Soon I'll be switching to a cash back card that doesn't require me to spend it in their store.

@georgiabigfoot

Күн бұрын

REI sold their soul to the Devil when their lifetime guarantee became 365 days, and and all previous purchased equipment wasn’t grandfathered in. They also switched to vanity sizing around this time which was a major bust. I’ve been a coop member since 1987, but those decisions did them in for me.

I have been a REI member for 30 years now, and I can talk about the good and the bad. The good, lifetime membership for only 20 dollars that gives you back 10% at the end of the year towards buying more stuff. When I was still an avid cyclist, this savings in sports food was awesome. Their garage sale items is just flat out amazing. I have bought 2 Gregory backpacks this way and saved over a hundred dollars on each pack. For rock climbers, they are still kind of the only store around. The bad, they started posting signs about their politics in the store, which has driven some of my friends to other places. I can now find nearly everything I want from other places, so if it isn't on sale at a significant discount, I am getting it somewhere else.

@locomike102

9 күн бұрын

Me too--I shop the outlet sales and that's about it. I get nearly everything else somewhere cheaper or at a place that supports my values.

@cliff4769

9 күн бұрын

“Go woke, go broke!” -DJT

@barbshubert9667

8 күн бұрын

The same here. I've been a member for about 20 years. I now try to shop with local small businesses. We're fortunate here in North GA. to have a few to choose from. REI does have one of the best return policies, and I do contribute to their recycle old clothes / shoes program.

@gregp3824

8 күн бұрын

Became a member back in 1980, back when they were all about the outdoors and your Coop card was paper; went into a store for the first time in ages around 2000 and the cashier did not know what to make of it. I guess my card was older than she was. But now, as others have noted, "Go Woke, Go Broke" Stick to gear and classes and leave the politics to politicians. Haven't shop there in a decade and I have five stores within a 60 mile radius of me.

@mayokimmer

7 күн бұрын

I've been a member for little over 38 years and shopped at their original store in Seattle. I have bought numerous backpacks over the years and lots of hiking and camping gear. It was my go-to store until knee issues. I admit that I stay away from business that push politics and sad to say I have stayed away from REI, a much loved store years ago.

Dicks Sporting Goods also took a negative 2A stance. Haven’t been in one since.

@lynnjr457

14 күн бұрын

Same here.

@rickhaithcox7024

14 күн бұрын

Same for me

@farmersgrip

14 күн бұрын

I hadn't heard that yet but won't hurt me to never go back

@dracphelan

14 күн бұрын

Same here.

@nancyp.2605

14 күн бұрын

Same!

I work at an REI warehouse and everything you said is true. A couple months ago we had lay offs. Some shifts being nearly cut in half. Morale is down bad. I've been there 5 years and morale is the worst it's ever been. The ones running the operation at my location keep us in the dark and beat around the bush and never give us a straight answer to anything. At our town halls when it's our turn to ask questions 9 out of 10 times their response is "we'll look into it" or "we're looking into that". Plus your typically corporate jargon. It's sad because 5 years ago when I started it was a fun place to work but It's just been slowly declining.

@timlubbers2884

11 күн бұрын

And yet, here in Tampa they were hiring, and at the recently opened store in Sarasota they have so many workers you get tired of saying excuse me from bumping into all of them …

@jsa_sdfan79

10 күн бұрын

They are over priced. I did get an inflatable kayak from them a couple of years ago only because it was almost 50% off. After looking at their other gear I realized that it wasn't my kind of store.

@brandon152lee

10 күн бұрын

That Bidenomics really hitting everyone hard.

@NebulousCat

9 күн бұрын

Don't work for communists

@allendaoust5844

8 күн бұрын

My advice, find a new job, REI is going into the toilet. They have a serious lack of leadership and NO one knows what they are doing.

I love REI and have had nothing but great experiences and great products from them. I’m 67 and swear by the company and am heading there this afternoon to purchase some items on sale.

@declineofthewest.

4 күн бұрын

Not surprised

In my past, I didn’t go to REI, I thought that was a store for high priced upity gear for upity people. Now, I love it. The return policy helps me know that if I am buying a high priced item and try it and don’t love it, that I am not stuck with it. I’ve become an avid backpacker in the last ten years, I’m 60 now. I do shop cottage brands that I know are too small to allow for a store such as REI to carry with their small budget and the wholesale markup needed. That is not REI’s fault, nor the small manufacturer, just simple business. That said, it scares me to plop down several hundred dollars for gear that has 30 days or less return policy or worse, unused condition policy. It’s not often these days that people are loyal to brands or companies. They simply go to the internet and find the cheap knock off or whomever sells the same for less. It’s just the market we live in now. I’d rather have my quality item 5+ years from now than for one or two outings and if after one or two outings it failed, know I could return it.

REI and many other companies should learn a lesson from Michael Jordan. When asked why he wasn't politically vocal he said, "Republicans buy shoes too."

@alexanderslee

11 күн бұрын

Two takeaways from that quote. 1. Jordan was a Democrat. 2. Jordan sold out to the Republicans. 😂

@andrewdiamond2697

7 күн бұрын

@@alexanderslee Meh. Being political on either side is bad for business, unless your business is really 100% geared towards a political viewpoint. It works for the "MAGA Store" to be political, or maybe the Vegan restaurant. Otherwise, politics will usually hurt business.

@bkw8290

7 күн бұрын

And Jordan is probably a Republican

@alienrocketscienceshared8454

6 күн бұрын

​@alexanderslee and a great "takeaway" from YOUR comment, you are a nose in the air snotty Democrat who considers anyone who associates with Republicans as the enemy. Why is catering to Republicans "selling out", but catering to everyone else is normal in your eyes?!?!?

There's an REI near me in Rhode Island. I go in there a few times a year to get stuff for backpacking trips. I enjoy going in there. The sheer amount of stuff they have for backpacking makes it fun to go in and browse. Also, their customer service is outstanding. A couple years ago I wanted a new pack. I went in to try on a Gregory, Osprey and REI pack. The guy helping me owned the Gregory and had taken it on a trip to Idaho and Montana and loved it. He measured my torso, fitted the bags to my body, and even put 20lbs of sandbags in the packs and had me walk around the store and up and down the stairs. Where else can most people go and actually try on a pack before buying it? The guy also helped another couple who were just starting out and was really patient with them. They also have a few sales a year that are really good.( Memorial Day sale currently in effect!)

@cosmokenney

13 күн бұрын

I used to do that at REI, but in recent years, the store local to me never had my size in stock. It is comical how bad their inventory management is.

@yotersmitt

12 күн бұрын

I love picking the brains of the employees. Many of them have worked there for decades and are a great resource, not just for gear but also statewide trails and the like. But for me the store no longer suits my needs. Rarely spend money there anymore.

@magicmatt1969

12 күн бұрын

If need someone to measure you and weigh stuff you simply aren't living in reality 😂

@timothylinn

12 күн бұрын

@@magicmatt1969 What an ignorant comment. The average person doesn't understand how to fit a backpack. It's not as straightforward as you might think.

@notmyname3883

12 күн бұрын

You didn't finish your story: "...And then I went online on Amazon and bought it for $3 cheaper." That's what happened to Best BUy years ago. Best Buy was called "Amazon's Showroom," cause people would go in to put hands on things, then buy 'em a few bucks cheaper online. Now BB is more service oriented, and cellphones. REI is very expensive. Plus a membership fee. Sorry, not interested in paying membership fees.

Quality items cost money. REI is known not necessary for selling to the rich but selling the higher end equipment which will of course costs money. Having brick and mortar stores means rent and staff that online retailers don’t have to pay but it also means you can touch your products and see quality without having to wait days only to have to send items back to lesser stores and it also means you can get assistance. Being a long time backpacker REI has been a great resource for some of my gear and like most people I think I shop both through online and brick and mortar stores. I value the choices and advice I get when shop there.

@v10dodge87

11 күн бұрын

Higher end equipment? Lol. Okay walmart shopper.

@ultrarnr4454

8 күн бұрын

I've had W-M carp last longer then my REI brand stuff. LOL @@v10dodge87

@2WheelsGood.01

5 күн бұрын

@@v10dodge87 They are not wrong. I've seen local stores carry HMG, Arc'teryx, Mystery Ranch, LaSportiva, Big Agnes etc. Is this not high end?

@billrudersdorf4187

4 күн бұрын

When I joined, about 1980, they only had 4 stores, all in WA and OR. The rest was catalog sales. It was more a cool place to buy unusual stuff. Then they started making their own stuff (poorly, often) and also moving to high end brands like Patagonia. They’re winding up looking like Sears (remember….?).

REI decided to be political and DIVIDE their customer base rather than unite them over a love of the outdoors. Lot's of other places to buy gear.

@sailingaeolus

7 күн бұрын

Lots of companies do this. I wouldn't give Dis-a-nee a penny to save my life. They can keep mickey.

@crashjump1849

6 күн бұрын

REI needs to diversify Hunting Fishing and the outdoors they all go hand to hand

@jenniferfisher530

6 күн бұрын

💯💯

@TehSiets

6 күн бұрын

Oh no, being asked to be nice to people who are different from yourself. What a horrible controversial idea!

@irvkettering1752

6 күн бұрын

Go woke, go broke!

I absolutely love REI just like u loved Cabela’s before the Bass Pro buyout. I still buy REI clothes and shoes and I love it. I really hope they get it together, because it really is a nice brand.

I wasn’t aware of their financial difficulties, but I am a regular customer and I’ve never had a bad experience. I am price, conscious and shop around. Perhaps because I buy higher end gear and keep it for years, If not decades it’s not as relevant to me. Thanks for the insights. I don’t agree with the “hipster comment” someone made- I’m 56 a father and regular dude

@allemander

10 күн бұрын

*illiterate dude.

@theboston3386

10 күн бұрын

Just bc you aren’t one, doesn’t mean the majority of customers are. Yup a bunch of hipsters shop there.

@petestuff3257

10 күн бұрын

@@theboston3386 “a bunch of hipsters” shop in all kinds of places. As a seasoned adult shopper of 40 years in outdoor stores, I can tell you going into the ONE NEAR ME, that your description and assumption is partially accurate, but mostly not. Cheers. (I’m 56 years old, i’m a middle-age, square, non-hipster who has broad experience in life and shopping) I can only speak to my experience not what you might have seen. Just trying to add perspective.

@topknotsrule

10 күн бұрын

I've been a paycheck-to-paycheck outdoorsman. I'm a member of REI and have never regretted it. The special deals available for members have surprised me and made me happy. I appreciate the dividends returned every year. I don't purchase a lot at REI but have been pleased with almost everything I've obtained. Rock on!

@visnuexe

9 күн бұрын

I bought my hammock set up with a larger tarp on sale there around 4 years ago. The products were good, but there were better available at the same or similar prices a year later. My backpack I got at an army navy surplus store. I found it adequate, though a bit heavy. I got the Helicon belly pack from Amazon that I love. I lack a good table and light weight chair for back packing. Minor s5uff I get from Walmart. I am on a tight budget. I research my stuff, though reviews are deceptive. Enjoy your reviews for help.

Every time I try to go to Dicks, Cabelas, or Bass Pro shop, I find nothing but garbage gear. Also, none of the clothes brands that they carry fit me correctly, and I can't find most of what I want anyway. No climbing gear, and very rarely do they have a single item for people doing actual multi-day backpacking trips, or mountaineering type people. REI has always had brands that work great for me. I can sometimes find it cheaper on Amazon, but once I take in the rebate I will get back(plus the amazing return policy) it usually makes better sense for me to purchase it at REI. Maybe it is because I have multiple REI near me, but I rarely hear anyone talk negative about REI in my city.

@KeithNSmith

6 күн бұрын

Totally agree. The negative stuff about REI this guy is talking about, is mostly from folks who obviously are not REI customers in the first place. I'm sure a backpack at Dicks is cheaper than REI - because it isn't the same item or quality.

I have been a REI member for over 20 years, and I do make a lot of my outdoor purchases there, for a couple of good reasons. One, they will allow you to return an item, whether a tent, backpack, or shoes, etc. for up to a year after purchase. For me, this convenience is well worth paying a little extra. No other store will allow you to actually use an item out in the field for an extended test and return it for a full refund if you aren't 100% happy with it. Two, their outlet store offers great bargains, and for even better deals, they have periodic garage sales which have super bargains. If you are careful and patient, there are often good sales (such as 20% off one item), that allow you to get a great deal on that larger purchase, and again, tremendous customer support.

I agree with you, 100% Luke. My girlfriend and I went shopping there years ago and never went back. Too darn expensive. And anti-second amendment.

@TehSiets

6 күн бұрын

“REI does not sell guns or ammunition, and does not oppose hunting or the Second Amendment, but we believe companies that profit directly from the sale of guns have a civic responsibility to engage in the national discussion about gun safety, as Dick’s Sporting Goods, Walmart and others have done.” -REI statement in 2019 The second amendment clearly has the words “well-regulated” in it. Are YOU anti second amendment because you are so hardline about the free flow of military grade weaponry that you get irrationally angry at a company asking its partners to simply “talk” about possible improvements our country could make to gun regulations in the wake of a horrific mass shooting? I also just bought a Gregory backpack from REI for less than I could find it anywhere else. Most retailers offering 20% of Memorial Day, REI was doing 30% off. 0 for 2 my guy.

Born and raised in Alaska, was a REI customer for years. Their customer service and warranty policy kept me loyal to them, despite the elevated prices. About 3 years ago I had an issue with an REI brand rolling duffel, which came with a lifetime warranty at the time of purchase. They refused to honor the warranty with a repair, refund, or even to exchange it. They told me that the company decided the lifetime warranty was too expensive for the store, and that they stopped honoring it. They will never get another dime from me, which is a shame, because I had been a happy customer for decades prior to that.

@phasmata3813

14 күн бұрын

The lifetime warranty was being abused at an incredible rate, and it was absolutely the right thing for them to abandon it. I don't blame them for that one bit. People proved once again that they can't have nice things.

@alaskatosweden9942

14 күн бұрын

@@phasmata3813 If REI decided it was no longer feasible to offer lifetime warranties, then they could’ve made an announcement that all products purchased from that date onward wouldn’t be eligible for a lifetime warranty. It’s not right to sell a product several years prior with a guarantee of lifetime warranty, and the just decide to no longer honor it. Part of the reason I paid the high REI prices was for that warranty.

@TisiphonesShadow

14 күн бұрын

@@phasmata3813 But you DON'T deny the warranty for products sold before that decision was made.

@nathan8418

14 күн бұрын

The Spenard REI location in Anchorage was great. Right next to that cool bookstore. Not a fan of the new Midtown spot. I Still order from REI during May and Nov sales but won't go to their store anymore.

@angelusway

14 күн бұрын

@@phasmata3813 I agree, changing it to 1 year was a good call.

I’m a member of REI co op. I remember when I first found the store I was avoiding a hurricane in my area I I went to Raleigh NC to escape it. I a friend in the area and told him I found the REI store he replied with expensive. He was correct. I only shop there when I have one of their coupons that bring down the price. If they don’t want to cave in on themselves they need to lower their prices or they will not make it. Lower prices and good equipment.

I'm very happy with REI. They have knowledgable staff, still offer the best return policy you will find anywhere, and I have just been picking up some great quality items on good sales. They are often the only place that has good stock on the sneakers and the brand of hiking shoes and boots I like. No complaints here.

I think two additional factors in this equation are the explosion of high quality cottage industry gear and easy access to unbranded Chinese gear. My Big 3 (backpack, tent, quilt) are all cottage, plus smaller pieces as well. Combine that with being able to buy direct from China and skip the absurd markups, and there just isn't much room for REI's expensive, heavy, mass market, China-made gear.

@Zapruderfilm1963

14 күн бұрын

I completely agree. All my gear is also cottage made and is extremely lightweight. I’m a backpacker who does miles not a car camper, not a parent, not a weekender.

@Remianen

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is what I mentioned in my post. I have 11 tents bought from Temu. I've used 6 of them. They're good enough. Not spectacular, not terrible, just good enough. I use the same methods for those that I do for my Coleman and Big Agnes tents: Tyvek ground sheet, lean-to tarp overhead to minimize rain hitting it. Those 11 tents (combined) cost me less than my Coleman instant cabin tent. I haven't yet come across a cottage company that any of my friends can recommend from firsthand experience but if I do, I'd be far more likely to go in that direction. I don't mind disposable gear if it's cheap enough. I just don't want to spend top dollar....for the same level of quality as a Chinese made product.

@twodogstudio2

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, cottage gear, got a cottage hammok and omg is it incredible, so much thought and creativity in the design.

@pablomtzb

13 күн бұрын

Excuse my ignorance, (i'm not from the US) What do you mean by "cottage industry"?

@RotasOpera

13 күн бұрын

@@pablomtzb Goods that are made by small operations or by individuals at home.

I don't get into the politics much - I would probably not shop anywhere if I did. I am a frequent REI shopper. That said, I usually watch for deals, never paying full price for anything. I've found that shopping their online selection is much better than going in store. I love their return policy.

@PisgahGravelProject

10 күн бұрын

I now get into politics bc it affects our lives and I refuse to sit back complacent like I had been for years. Truth is, REI is w0k3 and everything w0k3 turns to 💩

@eastonwilliams1722

9 күн бұрын

@@PisgahGravelProjectDude everything is woke. Your company you work for probably just hired a black lesbian over a more qualified white guy because affirmative action and dei. Nothing is going to change politically until its forced ok them. They dont even care about money because the banks will bail them out if they need it

My wife and I recently visited a local REI store shopping for shorts for me. One thing that struck us was the lack of any signage that indicated whether we were in the mens, or womens, clothing area - I wondered around the clothing area looking for mens shorts and didn't know I was in the wrong area until I came across a bunch of sports bras... That issue aside, there was a distinct lack of inventory; I was specifically looking for Kuhl products, but only found one pair of shorts hanging on a clearance rack. Overall, a very disappointing experience. We have been reasonably loyal REI patrons, but this experience has totally soured our view of REI. As it was, we left REI and visited a nearby 5.11 store and found all the products I was looking for!

@jussiruottinen2298

5 күн бұрын

Really? These issues soured your experience enough to come tell people about it? What decade do you think we’re in?

Another factor is REIs incredibly generous return policies. While the piece of mind may offset their prices somewhat. People clearly take advantage of them. The returns section is full of gear that’s been clearly used for an entire season and then returned. Abused, cut, intentionally damaged. I’ve been able to get some great deals with some ingenuity and repair skills but for the most part, REI has got to be loosing money in this department.

I go to REI to see products in person. Then I go buy it online somewhere else for cheaper.

@user-bo1rj2xu2s

14 күн бұрын

I do that with many stores to scout out items I'm interested in, not just outdoor gear. If the price difference is minimal (10% or less) I'll purchase the more costly item in order to keep the bricks & mortar store open and it's employees working. If the price difference is greater than 10% I ask the store if they can match the competitor's price. Most of the time they do. If they can't I move on with no hard feelings.

@theoriginaldashriprock

14 күн бұрын

Let's face it, most people do that with all stores. The reality is that retail stores are going to be mostly a thing of the past in the next 10 years or so. Everything is going strictly online. Even grocery stores. You watch! Fast food restaurants are even eliminating dining rooms now, going strictly drive through.

@psybain

14 күн бұрын

this is what I'll do 90% of the time, unless I'm just buying a first aid kid or some snacks for an upcoming camping trip.

@theoriginaldashriprock

14 күн бұрын

@Boosh_Craft I don't think you understand. This is what fast food restaurants are moving to. They're eliminating dining rooms. Look at what McDonald's is starting to do and chick-fil-a. Their news stores do not have dining rooms. It's cheaper to operate a restroom without dining. Less real estate, less maintenance, less overhead, fewer employees. I'm not saying I want this, I'm just telling you what's happening.

@theoriginaldashriprock

14 күн бұрын

@Boosh_Craft So you are in your 90's? Like arguing with a child. You want to be right so bad. 🤣

Love shopping at my local REIs in Maryland and Northern Virginia. Pleased with the selection and service. I’ve always had excellent shopping experiences.

$311 million net loss, including $169 non-cash valuation allowance, on 3.76 BILLION in revenue isn’t exactly groundbreaking. They continue massive giving to non-profits, community organizations, livable wages for their employees, and of course dividends for members. Not to mention countless environmental initiatives. They’re doing great. If you take the time to read and understand what they’re up to vs assuming and wanting to make a non-fact-based hit piece. But be sure to keep it non-political. Try to avoid those sticky facts too!

I love REI and I have used their Flash 45 and Flash 55 backpacks for many years.

Statement from REI, posted on their website: “The co-op reported $3.76 billion in revenue in 2023, a 2.4% decrease from 2022. The co-op reported a $311 million net loss in 2023. That loss was largely driven by three factors: REI's commitment to continue investing in hourly employee pay, commitment to providing a member reward, and a $169 million non-cash valuation allowance against its deferred tax assets.”

@timothylinn

12 күн бұрын

Thank you. A useful comment based in reality.

@notmyname3883

11 күн бұрын

ADDENDUM: "Oh, and, um, yeah, we went WOKE, so we is BROKE!" "Oh, and Dylan Mulvaney wouldn't do commercials with us in a hot tub!"

@rjg2394

11 күн бұрын

"employee pay" -always an excuse. How about management!

@n2cycles

11 күн бұрын

So that means they made some business decisions that caused them to lose money. How long is that going to last. I miss stores that have civic responsibility but they can’t compete against Amazon. After all most of what they sell is still made in china.

@phillipp1399

11 күн бұрын

Wow. The ignorance is astounding in this crowd. REI “went woke” lol. Hard to explain facts to people against learning.

Here’s something positive about REI: 1 year no questions asked return policy. Your tent that fell apart within a year? Return it and get your money back. Can’t do that at Amazon or Dick’s. But yes, paying full MSRP at REI feels a bit silly given there are other places that sell the same gear at lower prices.

@timlubbers2884

11 күн бұрын

In some cases that may be true, I just bought a new jetboil from them and it was priced the same as dicks and bill Jackson’s …

@aknewhope

11 күн бұрын

You also get back 10% at the end of the year plus an additional %5 if you use the credit card.

This video is just words to me. I have billing too and shipped at REI for over 20 years and have bought a large amount of great there over the years. I have had issues with vet very little of it. Also, it’s nice to know that they take anything back, no reason required for up to a year. I know, the lifetime return policy was better, but I’m sure they were a holes, taking extreme advantage of that by returning things at the end of their lifespan. There are a couple of reasons I love REI; the return policy is fantastic and I almost literally buy all y shoes from them for that reason. The gear is incredibly high-quality and will last longer than much of the garbage gear you were talking about. Also, they do discount items and have great sales throughout the year as well as the 20% off coupons. Additionally, they have the garage sale stuff which can be a really really good deal. All you have to do is know how to shop the store. I almost never pay full price. Also, they are in-house REI branded gear is actually really good stuff and well priced. I also really don’t care if a store that doesn’t sell guns, doesn’t support gun culture. That’s like being upset that your local gun store doesn’t seem to support the crafting culture. Bottom line, I hope REI can turn it around and while I don’t want them to turn their stock into the level of Cabela’s gear, they could probably over some more reasonably priced gear to cater to folks who can’t afford the good stuff, but of course t that’s what other stores are for.

REI customer service is fantastic. I've gotten so much assistance. I purchased an REI backpack due to fantastic reviews. So many discounts for members.

Everyone’s feeling the pressure of Amazon.

@unwoundbound1957

12 күн бұрын

Amazon sells too much Chinese no-name/weird-name brands with questionable quality, it is a fricken scourge

@TheTrailDancer

12 күн бұрын

Yup!

@robertgraves3215

11 күн бұрын

Oh but they'll fly bags of weed right up your butt via drone...

@rouxchat6033

11 күн бұрын

Amazon is the Walmart of the internet.

@humpycove

11 күн бұрын

I don't and won't shop amazon at any price.

REI was crazy expensive 10 years ago before the inflation, how they have stayed afloat this long is crazy!

@mflacke

14 күн бұрын

They charge MSRP like everyone else and offer sales from time to time like everyone else.

@mflacke

14 күн бұрын

@Boosh_Craft Also see "Luminescent".

@10lauset

14 күн бұрын

Since everything is made in China, you get what you want from those manufacturers all along the way from the materials and design to the actual manufacturing steps including details. The customer (placing the order) is always right including mistakes and omissions on their part. Here in Edmonton Alberta I can get things made with good quality but small inefficient and productivity runs and the cost of living is still present.

@DL-ij7tf

14 күн бұрын

I've found their prices unremarkable overall, and their REI Coop brand stuff has always been great for money especially with sales. I lean towards the survival and gun side of the outdoors so REI's granola-cruncher vibe was always a little annoying. I think a big part of their recent failure was investing big time on super woke advertising. I got promoted a lot of their ads for a while and it was all about getting more plus size, minority, and alphabet people into a "city-folk"-friendly, more curated outdoors. Skipping past any other debate about that, simple demographic analysis shows how little those communities get involved in the outdoors. Their anti gun and other politics have limited my use of them.

@BrianRRenfro

14 күн бұрын

@@mflacke You mean they sometimes charge more than MSRP, never charge less than MSRP and most other places ALWAYS charge less than MSRP.

I regularly shop at REI, Bass Pro, Dicks, and Cabelas. I do not agree that REI prices are higher than those others. They are all very similar. Also, I’ve never heard before that REI is for rich people. I’m not rich and am squarely middle-class. But, we all know that there are always lower prices to be found at Amazon. I’ll always choose sticks and bricks over Amazon as long as I don’t have to pay too much more.

I worked at REI in the 2000s. THE best work environment and management ever! I also believed in the membership benefits. The staff in the different departments weren't just store clerks, but experts and currently participating in the outdoor activities that they focused on at work. Therefore the customer received excellent advice in their purchase. I still believe in the company, although I havnt been to that same store in a while, since I moved 2 hrs away from that city.

@aksamoyed907

Күн бұрын

I agree with you. As a co-op member myself I like going to REI because the staff is always willing to answer questions honestly about products and make knowledgeable recommendations. And I always find the gear I’m looking for there, whether it’s backpacking, hiking, climbing, etc. Yes, it costs more, but it’s always a better quality than the stuff you find at other chain sporting goods stores.

I go to REI to try clothing and to look in person camping equipment. I have found awesome deals there. Yes, in general, they have products that are overpriced, but good deals also can be found. I took my bicycle to do a tune up, while dicks was asking $80 for that REI did it for free because I am a member, membership cost $20 for life. I really don't want them to do bad.

I lived just east of Seattle and have been a REI member since the early 1960s. Back then they had great products, many were resonably priced and my family loved the place. Now I live just south of Seattle and like another person here, I go to REI ask questions, look at the products and then shop elsewhere. I'm retired army and support both 2A and my personal rights. Sad to see that REI is but a shadow of its former self. They will be out of business in less then 5 years.

@billyquerry1729

12 күн бұрын

I live just south of Seattle and became a member of REI when it was in the original store downtown Seattle but when I found Sportco, I quit going there because I think sport is a better sporting outlet store

@CptnSavage

11 күн бұрын

@@billyquerry1729 Sounds like you and I did the same thing initially and now live in the same neighborhood. Because I was in the army [now retired] I was out of the country most of the time, so purchased most of my gear in foreign stores. Good gear, still expensive, but local and had it in my hands immediately. I'll have to check out SportCo. Thanks for the tip!

@wowbagger3505

11 күн бұрын

Same problem with MEC in Canada. I live in the Appalachians, but have been an REI member since 1971 when it was really a Coop and was a MEC member since the early 90s. REI was great in the 70s and 80s. MEC was like the old REI in the 90s, then they started expanding. MEC was bought out, but with Backcountry up for sale already REI is probably doomed to liquidation. I really have not bought a full priced item from REI for decades…

@DaveEPie

11 күн бұрын

My dad took me to the downtown Seattle store in the 70’s- it was a experience. Became a hiker, climber, cyclist- They just built a new REI here in Prescott-some of the gear is waaaay too expensive- I think this guy in the video is right- Rei is marketing to the higher end clients- I don’t see too many 20 something’s shopping there. Sometimes it’s worth it to buy a super high end product- example, super durable travel pants. I wear them traveling, then turned them into pants for mountain hikes, then gardening, then working construction projects. They lasted 6 years so far and still very good. Packs- not so much- Rei pack for what I needed, 300-400 usd. Made in Vietnam ( where I was going) . Found a similar pack at sportsman warehouse, made in Vietnam retail 200 their price was 150, but luckily was on a blow out sale price of 70 bucks. It’s made 3 trips to Asia and still looks brand new. Savings of at least 200 USD.

@mikerainey3847

11 күн бұрын

I used to love getting my dad's catalogs in the 70s. I liked checking out the climbing gear and backpacking gear. I still have two fantastic down parkas and a vest my mother made from Frostline kits purchased from REI. Imagine that, building your own outdoor gear! I remember sourcing a lot of climbing gear through them as you didn't have many other choices back then. I pulled away hard back in the 90s because they started pushing political views and honestly didn't feel welcome as a blue-collar worker in their store. I enjoy a little venison here or there and enjoy a pheasant dinner when I can get it myself. I don't own a Beamer or Mercedes and would look kinda silly hopping out of one in my Carharts and steel toes. So I guess I'll go back when they start carrying hunting gear, have support your troops, and local police fodder posted about.... right, not bloody likely!

As usual, I think your viewpoint is spot on . Thank you .

The customer service at REI is really nice. The guys at the one in Fort Collins Colorado were super helpful in helping me select a backpack, climbing shoes, rain pants, ice axe and crampons. The backpack and the shoes were both on sale making them just as expensive as online. But honestly, I only shop there if I have serious questions. REI is always a pleasant experience for me but definitely expensive. The guys at Jax didn't really seem to have very many answers when it came to ice climbing but rei had just the stuff. I didn't expect anyone to have any of the answers but the guys at REI did.

REI was the only outdoor shop I could find that had hiking boots that both fit me (I have pretty wide feet) and were in stock without me having to wait for them to order a pair (I was in a hurry/needed them on short notice; I was on a flight a couple days later and was going to be in some snowy mountains on the other side of the planet). Prices seemed normal to me, only a few dollars more expensive than I could find online and the experience of having someone knowledgeable about them right there, talking to me about what my needs were, making good recommendations, and combing through the stock in the back of the store to find things was worth those few dollars to me. Every other shop I tried had associates that just ignored me -- and REI was my last chance to find what I needed. Glad I found them, and I'll visit again.

@ronaldlee3537

11 күн бұрын

Not a good idea to buy hiking boots and take them on a hike without out at least walking around in them for maybe a couple weeks at the local shopping mall etc, where if you discover a problem, it is not a big deal.

@ChiRuNine

11 күн бұрын

@@ronaldlee3537 Yeah, I know -- that was something I was concerned about at the time, too. I didn't have a lot of options though, so I made sure to walk in them for a fair distance the very evening I bought them, and also knew that while I'd be in the mountains, it was in areas surrounding towns that I'd never be far from and never be at risk of not being able to call for help if anything went awry. I don't think I was ever even out of signal on my phone. I also brought my normal shoes with me, just in case, though it certainly would have been a bad time if I had to resort to using them with how deep the snow got in some places. Basically, I needed them to be able to hike in a snowy/icy mountainous area, but I wasn't going deep into the wilderness or anything, I was just carrying camera equipment/setting up shots relatively close to well traveled areas.

You're absolutely right. As a kid (mid to late 80's) the REI I went to was a shop where one could buy your high end, to "Coleman" level gear. As the years went by, they moved the shop out of the blue collar neighborhood to the high dollar beach area (Manhattan Beach,) and the stuff they carry is ridiculously priced. I guess they have to come up with the rent. However, I will say this, their staff is probably the most knowledgeable in my area, compared to Dick's, Big 5 etc....

Been shopping there since 2012.. love them, their brand is very good stuff, I’m not wealthy, nor a hipster, just love good quality and a fair price..

Nailed it. I’m from Raleigh and we’ve had a store in the area for decades. Currently two in the area. I think I started shopping there in 1994- exactly 30 years ago and I’ve spent a small fortune there through the years. But the minute they showed me how much they don’t like people like me, and our views, I stopped. Haven’t shopped there since. Same with Starbucks. Got my coffee there every day for years. Until about 10 years ago when they decided to express their politics. Haven’t been back since.

My first purchase from REI was in 1968. When I moved to the Seattle area in 1989 there was only one store in the Capitol Hill district in a funky old warehouse. Outdoor gear was tossed in large cardboard boxes on pallets throughout the store. Absolutely incredible deals where you could purchase a North Face stretch fleece top for $15. Weekends were especially busy and many world class mountaineers would frequent the store. When they opened the second store in Bellevue WA in the early '80s, the facility had a new upscale appearance, but gone were the amazing bulk deals. Now I only shop the sales and close out items online. Let's hope mismanagement can be corrected. They still sell some great gear.

@ultrarnr4454

8 күн бұрын

I miss that old warehouse. It was fun as a teenager shopping there.

@twhis9843

2 күн бұрын

And after REI it became a Value Village

It’s been overpriced throughout its history. It caters to hipsters who want to live out of a van…. It will be the next bed bath and beyond

@Swearengen1980

14 күн бұрын

and car camping city slickers.

@manletopia4801

14 күн бұрын

@@Swearengen1980 😂😂😂😂

@benterwellen

14 күн бұрын

I won’t miss them, overpriced

@safromnc8616

14 күн бұрын

As a 60-something who lives out of a van, I'm a long way from a hipster. Please don't stereotype. & I don't shop @ REI. Buy local when you can...

@thomaswilson813

14 күн бұрын

@@safromnc8616 that’s why I said HIPSTERS that want to live out of a van… not people who live in a van. Details.

Your perception of their image is spot on. M

First went to REI 41 years ago, not 8! Still go there, never had a problem, and I like their gear.

I was at AT Trail Days this week and enjoyed the cottage gear companies they were showcasing in their booths (all diverse makers). I get what they are doing and why they are doing it. The funny thing is, all the gear I’ve bought has been from small cottage gear companies that REI doesn’t carry because they can’t scale. Hmmm…

@Zapruderfilm1963

14 күн бұрын

I completely agree. All my gear is cottage made. The shift has been to ultralight gear that caters to backpackers who put in a notably high amount of miles per day. REI simply does not cater to the correct market segment. Stop selling heavy, outdated gear made from materials that simply don’t work for those that populate the trails. If they could successfully retool to offer a line of shelters and packs made from DCF and Ultra 200 then they possibly could keep their head above water.

@brianc1651

6 күн бұрын

Yes. My hammock, my quilt, my tent are cottage companies. So many smaller items too. It's funny when people complain about REIs prices when my gear all costs more. Of course it's far better quality too. My dream would be a brick and mortar store of all cottage gear.

Rei forgot where it came from. Now they cater to the trendy, over priced, and woke instead of the outdoor enthusiast.

@David_Rafuse

14 күн бұрын

Sad to hear; sounds like the exact same thing that happened here in Canada with Mountain Equipment Co-op (which was originally founded in '71 as a Canadian answer to REI).

@RotasOpera

14 күн бұрын

Sad but true

@HeyImDateMike

14 күн бұрын

Used to get gear/clothing somewhat regularly from rei, but I cant remember the last time I bought something from them. Overpriced and way less selection.

@khap60

14 күн бұрын

@@David_Rafuse yes, I was surprised to hear that last year that MEC sold out!

@creasefold1986

14 күн бұрын

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I like REI a lot, I go in about once a month. I haven’t found many instances where the price of an item is more than what I might find online somewhere else. To be honest I didn’t know about their gun stance or that they are struggling. I live near Raleigh NC and the REIs around here seem busy all the time!

Scheels on the otherhand, is still killing it!

I have a local outdoor store in the town. I live in thats 103 years old run by the 5 generation of the same family , I buy my gear there and have for years since about mid 70’s , great service and if it’s a product they don’t have they to everything to find it for me and the same great family service , the customer comes first ! Even during the pandemic there was only one item that was 3 months out and I was in no hurry anyway !

@user-bo1rj2xu2s

14 күн бұрын

You are very fortunate, my friend. Would you care to share the name of the store?

@fokkerd3red618

13 күн бұрын

That's my kind of store, unfortunately there a dieing breed in today's world.

@neologian1783

13 күн бұрын

Used to have the coolest small, locally owned, outdoor outfitter here in town. The owner was an enthusiast who turned his passions into his business. Shopped there for years and always went out of my way to buy from him first whenever possible. But REI opened nearby and effectively put him out of business. He carried many of the same core products, backed them with infinitely more practical knowledge, and kept his pricing right around MSRP (e.g. he was not grossly over-priced compared to REI) but his foot traffic simply disappeared. Had to close his doors. Sad.

@normanmallory2055

13 күн бұрын

That is sad , I’ve seen a lot of local businesses close their doors over the years where I live ! Started with the first Payles moving , then 80’s the first K- Mart did their damage ! I still shopped downtown like I had all my life ! Then the first Wall Mart came in and more stores closed ! Those big chains are not a benefit to towns , they do serious damage ! I still shop downtown local !

@lancen4ldb743

12 күн бұрын

That sounds like it could be Scheels. If so, I also have one in my town. And best outdoor store I’ve ever given my business.

I live in Denver and often bike to the Denver REI that is located right off two major bike paths. It is always packed with buyers. Their biannual 20% off coupons can get you some top notch gear at a more doable price point. You also get 10% back at the end of each year.

@danacurlee8900

10 күн бұрын

The 10% off only applies to full priced items. If you buy something on-sale, no additional dividend.

@brianludlow9104

6 күн бұрын

That 10% is only applied to further instore purchases. You no longer can cash that dividend out which makes it no longer a dividend in my opinion.

thanks again for unbiased true honest opinions. Is such a rare thing these days. Why I follow your channel as you always say your true and honest opinion. Keep it up.

I have a six digit membership number so been with a while. They were the only ones who would give me a line of credit. I was and still am so grateful for that. Thirty some years later i am faithful for that. They are an outdoor boutique for sure. It's have most gear in triplicate so purchases are few and far between but they do have sales worth looking at

Price and politics (2A) is the exact reason why I discontinued shopping in REI.

@wwdeadeye

14 күн бұрын

BINGO!

@blowinshtup6553

13 күн бұрын

another one bites the dust to “go woke, go broke”👍

@davidfink7819

12 күн бұрын

REI doesn't advocate against the 2nd amendment. They just don't feel the need to promote it. That's a big difference. REI has never had any association with hunting or guns. Bass Pro and Cabalas have that covered. Conservatives sure love to play cancel culture for all their complaints about it.

When a company caters and panders to special interest groups and alienates the majority of their customer base this is what happens. They are doing the same thing as bud light, target, and Dicks sporting goods did. You would think REI would learn from the mistakes of others. Apparently they didn't get the memo. But WE did.

@jamesking4225

14 күн бұрын

Go woke go broke

@Filzup

13 күн бұрын

@@jamesking4225 Target, AB InBev, and Dick's have had some of their most profitable quarters ever despite triggering right-wing snowflakes, so you have a bizarre definition of "broke."

@brocklastname6682

13 күн бұрын

@@Filzup , Bud Light used to be the best selling beer in the US. They fell to number 2 and haven't recovered. Modelo is now the best selling beer in the US. It's better beer anyway.

@clarkreames5249

13 күн бұрын

REI is a big dealer of Patagonia stuff, another very politically active company. While it may be quality stuff, I don't identify with the company or the people that wear Patagonia gear so you won't see me in it. I have even started moving back to old school gear like wool. Expensive, but actually pretty high performance.

@RedBellyRiverRat

13 күн бұрын

The three companies you named all did take a hit during the political protest/boycotts, but all that blew over, and they have all recovered. Dick's stock price is at an all time high. Kid Rock says you can drink Bud Light again. They didn't alienate the majority, they alienated a vocal minority.

I was not aware of the financial trouble with REI. I've been a customer for decades and have had nothing but a great experience with them. I've returned failed products from packs to shoes and never had an issue getting refunds or replacements. They are high priced so I usually buy during their sales. Matter of fact, I just ordered some items from them a few days ago. I'd hate to see them fold but I can understand about their pricing. Thanks for the update on REI ...

Completely agree…the brand is suffering. They are catering to a market niche that does not produce profits. I joined REI in 1970 when I couldn’t find climbing gear and decent boots growing up in the Wasatch. I used to enjoy the original store in Seattle where returned gear was sold at bargain basement prices figuratively and literally. They have lost their way so I shifted to BackCountry, but the high end 1-2 times a year outdoors experience seeks to make large dollar sales rather than customers who are loyal. Sad state of affairs…

I shop at REI both online and at my local store. I've had many good experiences with them & been a member for years. The staff have been very helpful. I do believe they need to offer more less expensive good quality items to bring in new customers or people who don't have a lot of money to spend. As a bigger sized person, it is hard to find items out there but REI offers some. So it is nice to go into a store & try before you buy.

I agree completely. A few years ago, I wanted an easy set up dome tent to use to stake out my campsite when out driving around to explore hiking/fishing spots. I have a camper shell on my truck so I almost always sleep in that and don't even sleep in the tent most times. I had heard good things about their house brand dome tents so I went into the closest REI to check it out. I told the sales person what I was going to use it for and she was pretty knowledgeable. (I usually know more than they do but she was good enough) At one point, she said "So you go fishing. I guess that's OK but you're not a hunter too are you (while looking down her nose at me)?" I couldn't get out of there fast enough. I drove around the corner and went to a Sportsman's Warehouse (similar to Cabelas) to buy a tent for much less $$.

@tinydancer7426

14 күн бұрын

"I guess that's ok" that you go fishing? Should have asked, "Is there something wrong with fishing?" And, when she asked about hunting, I would have played with her and would have asked, "Why would you ask such a question?", just to hear what her spiel was gonna be.

@cosmokenney

13 күн бұрын

Must have been the Roseville store. That's the exact same attitude I got every single time I went into that store. Problem with Sportsman's warehouse is no one knows anything about what they sell -- for the most part. Although it is generally an impressively large and well stocked store in my experience. I used to love their "fly shop."

@jfowler7604

13 күн бұрын

@@cosmokenney Huh! .... been there. But, this experience was in Reno. I used to live in Rocklin and at that time, I'd go to Turners rather than SW. Good staff and management but more a "hook and bullet" store rather than general sporting goods.

@markfellhauer352

6 күн бұрын

@@cosmokenney - I went into the Sportsman's Warehouse in North Phoenix and the sales people didn't know what a sling swivel is. And then their selection was minimal - like 6 square feet of display space.

@jfowler7604

5 күн бұрын

@@markfellhauer352 I only have experience with two SW stores one was bad but the one in Reno is "pretty good" FWIW, for that type of store I have been very impressed by Scheels. However, although they have quite a lot of stores, they are not everywhere.

I joined REI 43 years ago. The REI of today bears no resemblance. I almost never shop there anymore. The 2A thing factors into my thinking a lot. American outdoor companies have been selling low cost foreign items at 20 to 100X mark up for decades. $2 hats for $50. That sort of thing. The Chinese and others see this and are now offering these items direct, and that has pulled the curtain back on what has been going on. People have had it. Some other industries have had the same business models, and are suffering the same decline. I don't feel sorry for any of them.

@ultrarnr4454

8 күн бұрын

I went to Thailand for an Army exercise in 2001 and brought back tons of clothing. A Fila shirt $3.00 ($75+ in US), Levi jeans were $5, etc. It would be worth a trip over if you needed to purchase a lot. We figured I spent less then a $100 over there and it would have been over $1200 back in the US.

@markfellhauer352

6 күн бұрын

But REI, has never sold firearms or firearm accessories and I think the founders' political leanings were never a secret. Unlike the whole Galyan's/Chick's/Dick's move where they actually removed their gun sections from stores. I remember walking into a Galyan's in Minneapolis for the first time and being amazed at their firearms counter. Sure REI sells some cheap chinese junk, but they mostly sell quality products at competitive prices, much of it American or Western European made. It's a boutique store with a curated inventory, not a Best Buy or (the now defunct) Fry's Electronics.

@markfellhauer352

6 күн бұрын

@@ultrarnr4454 - A lot of the cheap clothing I've seen in Thailand and Malaysia are factory seconds, outright fakes, or otherwise ill-gotten. And the average salary there is like $700 a month, or much less if you don't have an education, so they have to price goods and services accordingly.

REI also had to move out of their old locations due to the homeless shoplifting them blind.

@bkw8290

7 күн бұрын

It's what these Leftists sow...and now they have their consequences

@stonepa

3 күн бұрын

Which locations? I shop at the Yale store in Seattle, Bend, Minneapolis, Bellingham, Anchorage, Denver, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Farmers Branch, LA, Chicago, and so on. All in the same place they always were unless they built a bigger better store.

@2fathomsdeeper

3 күн бұрын

@@stonepa Seattle I believe.

@fredstrehlow511

Күн бұрын

​@@stonepaPortland closed their downtown flagship because of theft and how unsafe it was.

@stonepa

Күн бұрын

@@fredstrehlow511 yeah that whole area of downtown is a mess.

I shopped at a local REI back in the 90's before on-line shopping was really a thing. Even back then I called it Really Expensive Inside.

@drunksaru

13 күн бұрын

hahaha, i called it the same.

I was recently browsing RIE and ran across a Chinese propane heater that sells for $90. That exact same heater sells for $39 on Amazon. I own one that I purchased on Amazon and when I spotted it I double checked the price on Amazon to be certain the price had not changed....it had not. I was stunned. That being said, I just purchased a North Face Stormbreak 2 tent for $110....on sale and the footprint was on sale for $30. I do realize that many companies are suffering as a result of Chinese over-produciton and cheap labor. I am not sure what the answer is. They should concentrate on cutting the fat, streamlining, and lowering prices if they want to compete.

@timmccracken5018

14 күн бұрын

...and 15-20$ on Aliexpress.

@ES-qt6yo

14 күн бұрын

I use the mantra of not shopping at/patronizing places I would not be willing to work at..sorts it out pretty easily. Unless you are an upper, upper level employee Amazon is terrible to work for..

@tarawaukeri8928

13 күн бұрын

Amazon has the monopoly. Comply or my product does not sell. Get it?

@ES-qt6yo

12 күн бұрын

@@tarawaukeri8928 Ok 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

@carlbrenda6518

11 күн бұрын

​@ES-qt6yo I use the mantra "every penny I spend is one less penny to save". So I'm not about to pay a higher price for an item just because "I wouldn't work there or they treat their workers poorly."

Excellent presentation. Thanks for doing this.

What affected me initially was their change in return policy. I always felt that they were expensive, but it was worth it because if something didn't work out, you had the insurance policy of being able to return it, even after months. They seemed to keep the high prices while canceling the great return policy for the rare occasion it was needed. Strike two was going anti-constitution. Something that serious cancels the need for strike 3. I haven't been back since I learned about it.

REI has pros and cons just as all the other big outdoor stores do. No store has close to as good of a return policy as REI, its an amazing return policy. I think there has to be some underlying inefficiencies regarding the company, their sales are still high so something is going on behind the scenes

@alexanderslee

11 күн бұрын

Return policy second only to Costco or Macy’s

A member of REI since 1969. I just don't go camping as much. They used to be a reliable place to go get some outdoor gear. But I accumulated that years ago if I ever need a backpack, or whatever. But their ger buyers seem to have gone for the gold plated stuff, and not solid value. Their current pack selection is an example. A few years back I bought a super lightweight pack that was all the rave on Backpacker magazine, which I had happenbed to come across a copy of at the barber, and tried it out on an overnighter once. Never again, ever -- I gave it away. They used to vet gear serously, not read about it in magazines that loved it and the ad revenue it brought them. I have actually gone back to canvas packs for day or overnight, the extent of my outdoor activity today at 79. Those will last longer than I will -- I began camping on WWII surplus stuff back in the day. I do have a couple of larger Dana designs packs bought way back when for carrying heavy loads, but they are no longer carried anywhere I have been into -- "too heavy." never mind actually far more comfortable and more durable materials than anything in a current REI. REI seems to be run by lawyers and accountants these days, not outdoors people.

@AK-xu5sj

14 күн бұрын

Have you ever tried Bad Lands packs? Great company with an amazing warranty.

@jtaylorb88

13 күн бұрын

Losing so much money it's not being run by accountants.

@fokkerd3red618

13 күн бұрын

You're getting around good for 79. You must be doing something right.

@paul7754

13 күн бұрын

@@jtaylorb88 Accountants don't 'fix the books'? You're kidding right? Accountants are as much 'sharks' as lawyers are.

As an REI co-op member, I agree. It's the Saks Fifth Avenue of camping . . .

REI, in 2019 I got a lot a things on sale, and left felling happy with my purchases. I returned in 2023, and only bought one item that was on sale, but this time I was shellshocked at how expensive everything was.

Being anti 2A while being an outdoor enthusiast store is insanity. There is a massive overlap.

@WisconsinEric

14 күн бұрын

That is what did it for me. I live 2 miles from Madison's REI and I reduced my purchases by 95% after they became openly anti 2A. Been a member for nearly 15yrs. And to be honest their prices are not bad when you consider the 10% back members get on full price items as well as the 20% coupons members get 3-4 times a year.

@slickydicky

14 күн бұрын

Openly anti 2a, and constantly shoving lgbtqmnop and blm propaganda down our throats as well

@DK-jd8bj

14 күн бұрын

Been a member since 1983 but haven't gone in there for 20 years. Too expensive and woke. All the big US clothing companies(north face, Patagonia mountain hardware etc) have outsourced their products overseas but still charge 4x what the stuff is worth.

@MaryTravels53

14 күн бұрын

It saddens me! REI was my very favorite store because they were all about outdoors and backpacking first and foremost! When you walked in, it was like Christmas. They had something for every level of outdoor enthusiast. I equate it to Cabelas before they had brick and mortar stores. They had ‘The Catalog’, and every man I knew that hunted or fished coveted that catalog, same with REI when had a few stores. They had gear for every budget, and yes it was expensive, but they also had more reasonable gear, but not anymore. I am a purist when I am outdoors. I come there to be one with nature, I don’t want to string twinkle lights, or set up a basecamp for others to drop by and sit at the bar and have a cold brew and watch basketball playoffs together. I want the solitude, the quietness, the smells of nature instead of bubba’s kids riding by on their electric bikes. I like luxury like the next fellow, but it’s not what I need to be outside. I do hope they can turn around their business plan and get back to what they used to do best, but I don’t see it happening. Last purchase I made a few weeks ago, I heard a cashier tell someone in front of me, ‘We haven’t made any money in years, not since 2020 anyway’. Not sure I see much of a future for them. 🙁

@mortsnerd5100

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, they think everyone into hiking, camping, and backpacking are progressive types from California and Seattle. That's a big NOPE.

I have been to REI exactly one time, it was to buy one of their house branded raincoats. It is probably one of the best raincoats that I've had. And it was the bottom of their line of raincoats. So therefore I spent $60 on a raincoat.

@turtlepoi

10 күн бұрын

Wondering if this was the Cloudburst Jacket? I'd kill to replace the one I lost. Can't find anything like it anywhere. The last time I crossed my local REI's threshold was when I found out they dropped it with no comp. selection.

@MinorLG

10 күн бұрын

@@turtlepoi not sure, the hood can roll into the coller on mine though

@turtlepoi

9 күн бұрын

@@MinorLG Yeah that was the one. That cloud burst had that collar hood. It was a big part of what made the jacket usable for EDW. And the way the collar bulked up when it was stowed it sealed great around the neck when zipped all the way. It had nice big pockets with zippers that went up to close so you could carry tons of loose stuff with them zipped half way. Why would anyone zip up down from the top??? Perfect size overlay material on the main zip and those pockets too. A very light mesh to keep the space of skin off the Goretex. The hood even hard the perfect stiffness brim Mine was a great combo color somewhere between Olive Drab and a light grey, like a dark mushroom color... It just disappeared in the woods when I went still. Best light coat I ever owned. Still looking for any respawn of it with those features. They had it just right. ...Set the bar VERY high in my eyes.

@MinorLG

9 күн бұрын

@@turtlepoi yep, then. I think I grabbed it as it was entering eol clearance. I love it. And have had larger items in the pockets. It wasn't an advertised feature, but one of the pockets has a reverse zipper, and you can invert the jacket into the pocket

This saddens me. I have been an REI member since the 90's. Always loved that store, and dreamed of working there part time when I retire to share my knowledge and love of the outdoors. Agree with you though. More stores is not the answer, especially if you are laying people off.

I agree that their price range is a little higher than others, but I continue to shop REI because of their return policies. My best example is my boot preference. If the stitching starts to come out they will give me another replacement on the spot without question. I don’t get that elsewhere. I am not wealthy by any means but I feel reassured that my purchase is worth spending the extra $100 to guarantee my money will carry on because of their return policy. It is more expensive but I shop there because of their unquestioned return policy. I will and do shop others depending on the product but always consider if my investment may require me reconsidering my investment. Great video and always something to remember.

Luke - it's not clear from the video when you bought your tent from REI, but until 2013 REI had a lifetime no questions asked return policy. You could return anything for any reason, including even if the product was worn out from heavy use. If your tent broke down before 2013, you could have returned it. And if it was after and the product failed after more than 1 year (the current return window), you still should have contacted REI for a return.

I love REI. It's my favorite store. Members get 10% back on any regular priced item. When they do have sales, theyre good.

@lovespurpleflowers

13 күн бұрын

Support companies that are on board with the plan to never allow you out of a “smart city”, good thinking……..not❓‼️

@bushwhacker2198

12 күн бұрын

​@@lovespurpleflowersyou'll never have to worry about being allowed into a "smart city."

@timothylinn

12 күн бұрын

@@bushwhacker2198 Bwahahahaha! That comment is priceless.

I have had an REI membership since 1963. A great company then. I mail ordered some good equipment at very good prices. I really liked the people and the support. Over time there were more equal or better competitors. But the real problem is attitudes, prices, and some spectacular quality problems. I no longer was the coustomer they wanted and it became more and more obvious. If they have not looked arround and seen the problem already, I don't think they ever will.

REI has a handful of their COOP stuff which I think is the BEST EVER. The shirts and hoodies particularly. Outside of that it's just another retailer with stuff you can get anywhere.

I am a card carrying REI member. I agree that they are over priced on the exact same items that you can pick up elsewhere. IMHO what they do have going for them is the selection in store and on-line on food stuffs. They are a bit soft on "stoves" like solid fuel stoves. They have dropped items that I bought in the past and don't know why they couldn't keep them on line, I have a UCO candle lantern and bought from them in the past a stainless steel two piece downward facing reflector (I put the reflector on it and hang it in my tent and it lights up the floor real good you can read a book under it) but they don't carry it any more.

REI has a sale event this very moment. Prices are competitive, lower than MSRP and Amazon. Good online source for shoes, base layers, and small accessories.

@MrTmax74

12 күн бұрын

That's the only time I buy anything big from them. As a member taking advantage of their best sales a couple times a year. And occasionally I'll go for something small.

Loved this review. Surprising since so many people been taking on camping during the pandemic.

Going to my local REI was like going to the dentists, if they had something in stock that I needed right now, it was always painful. After their second amendment stance I quit going altogether. Cabelas is another store that doesn’t get my business anymore since Johnnie Morris ( bass pro shops ) bought them out and started selling absolute junk.

@stonepa

3 күн бұрын

I heard your grocery store has a ‘2A stance’ whatever the hell that means. So does your gas station. Probably your employer as well. Better hide in your basement while they come for your guns.

Dick’s went pretty hard into anti 2A as well so I’m not sure that’s the issue with REI

@phil2082

14 күн бұрын

REI is also anti-gun, but mainly because they want to focus on outdoors and not shooting? And because leftist hippies run things

@darson4eva

13 күн бұрын

the issue is that it doesn't fit the narrative of this video.

@timlubbers2884

11 күн бұрын

Yup and although I never shopped at dicks, they seem to be doing just fine (for now) …

REI is still my favorite outdoor retailer, has great sales and caters very well to niche outdoors audiences. In my experience most things I get there are priced at MSRP, although that does tend to be high. I don't really mind if the product is quality and lasts a long time though

Good info. I shop at Academy Sports for guns, ammo, fishing and camping gear, and running shoes. But REI has a better selection of backpacking gear. Both Academy and REI have solid return policies.

I’m a fan of REI. Their private label apparel is of good quality and price. They do carry some expensive brands, and I typically don’t end up buying those items. I do hit their sale rack and find some good deals. I’m a gun owner,but I’m not walking away from them for taking a position and following through with their actions. I’m in the minority there, and I’m sure they have missed sales due to their stance.

I've spent thousands at REI. This is the first time I've heard about the anti 2A stuff. Don't think I'll be shopping there anymore.

@user-bo1rj2xu2s

14 күн бұрын

You might want to read their actual position on 2A. They are not against guns and are big supporters of programs that support vets and active duty.

@nunyabidness9257

14 күн бұрын

@@user-bo1rj2xu2s Their actions don’t mirror your statement though, and supporting vets and active duty have nothing to do with the 2nd amendment and the public having firearms. There are plenty of people in the military who are horrified at the thought of common people with guns-hell, they barely trust a 19 year old with them AFTER training them.

@user-bo1rj2xu2s

14 күн бұрын

@@nunyabidness9257 Have you read their position?

@eaw7582

14 күн бұрын

@@user-bo1rj2xu2s Thats interesting, its a number of years back that my son went into REI to get replacement parts for his CamelBack bladers and packs. There was not a CamelBack product in the store. He asked staff about it and they told him that they stopped their contract with CamelBack do to there supplying the miltary??

@lovespurpleflowers

12 күн бұрын

@@user-bo1rj2xu2syou are wrong, they are playing both sides to keep selling to people that want to uphold the Constitution….wake up‼️💤💤💤💤💤

I had no idea REI was anti 2A, I have one in my area and visited the store one time. Never went back why, extremely high prices? Now I have two reasons to never visit them again.

@timlubbers2884

11 күн бұрын

REI never sold guns from the beginning. (I don’t consider them anti 2A) Do you shop at Amazon? They sell outdoor stuff but not guns …

@absolutez3r019

11 күн бұрын

why do people get so butt hurt over the 2nd amendment? They're amendments, which means they can change

@timlubbers2884

11 күн бұрын

@@absolutez3r019 actually the amendment can’t be changed without a constitutional convention, the interpretation of an amendment has changed over time by people, states and the fed . Reactions to the second are no different than changing the interpretation/effect of any other, say the 19th (as an example) .

@rabidsbr

11 күн бұрын

​​​Because our right to life is inextricably linked to the right to defend that life, just like every other living thing. Animals use claws and fangs. Humans use tools. Arms are simply tools. It is an unalienable, pre-existing, natural right, recognized by the Constitution in the Bill of Rights no different than your first amendment right to speak freely or believe what you want. It exists whether acknowledged by the Constitution or not. You're never taking it away, no matter how little regard you may have for your life or freedoms, or those of your fellow countrymen.

@absolutez3r019

11 күн бұрын

@rabidsbr 40 yrs old and I've never been in a position where a gun was needed. And my parents, who are both in their 60s , have never owned a gun. There are many countries that have very strict gun laws , where very few people actually own them, and they're doing fine

REI Flash 55 is the best backpack I have ever owned. Bought it on sale for $130. REI Helix is the best sleeping pad on the market. Bought it on sale for $130. REI Flexlite 16oz chair is the best backpacking chair on the market for under $100 on sale. They have an unbeatable return policy on anything you buy. You can wear out your trail shoes and bring them back and get a full refund or exchange. Fantastic brick and mortar store. I agree with you that it is probably an image problem and hopefully they can address it before it’s too late.

I think you are partly correct. There are those that can’t or won’t spend the money for the things in REI. The part you missed is that for those people that can afford to spend the money, or are willing to spend money for quality outdoor items, they sometimes look down on REI as a “big box store”. Many of the high end equipment like tents and backpacks aren’t even sold at REI. They are sold at smaller specialty stores that also offer tremendous service after the sale.

@markfellhauer352

6 күн бұрын

Almost all of the small boutique hiking/biking stores around here have gone away. And in my observation none of them offered any service after the sale that you didn't pay for.

Hey Luke, it’s been a while since I have contacted you. I want to thank you again for all of your amazing knowledge and support when I started my outdoor journey years ago. Now to the main topic. I have a REI that I have frequented here where I live on numerous occasions. I am a 2A guy who stands by the companies that stand by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. As an life long Independent, I will no longer support REI or companies like them who enjoy all the freedoms of this great country but denounce those who support ALL of those freedoms. I support REI’s 1A right to say whatever they want, however words (and actions in this case) have consequences. Thank you for educating me once again. 🤙🏻

here in Colorado REI is killing it. Hope they stay around because the big box stores have idiots who do not care at all.

@wayoutthere8101

13 күн бұрын

No offense, but in Marxist Colorado, of course REI is “killing it.” All the Red-Diaper-Doper-Babies shop there…… The state’s governor just released 3 wolves there -in direct opposition to 98% of the state’s ranchers, farmers, and hunters.

@FT4Freedom

12 күн бұрын

Colorado is the capital of hipsters.

@finerbiner

12 күн бұрын

@@FT4Freedom Colorado is the Capital of people who do things outdoors and we have the least percentage of fat asses of any state. Sure there are hipsters. So what.

@FT4Freedom

12 күн бұрын

Arizona buddy. Colorado is communist.

@sometimesoonfan

12 күн бұрын

@@finerbiner I have to agree with this, they actually get out there.

I love REI. Great selection of products and superb customer service. I walked into a Cabelas for the first time not long ago and it made me sick to my stomach. Won't go back there!

While stationed at Fort Lewis, WA, I had the chance to visit the REI store in Seattle. It was like walking into a Ferrari dealership. The store was huge, had multiple levels and prices were exorbitant. Even the clearance items seemed to be out of range of the average person. Everyone appeared to be just looking. The check out lanes were virtually unused. I walked out with nothing more than the memory that I had been to the REI store.

@scotthayes4312

13 күн бұрын

We had nothing like REI at Drum. I wish we did.

@user-jb6qs8yt9m

11 күн бұрын

On the contrary, the REI store at Tustin Market Place in the Tustin/Irvine area in socal is always packed. Lots of rich folks in the area to support the store. That had been my experience up to about last Christmas anyway.

@SCRalston

10 күн бұрын

@@user-jb6qs8yt9m All the ones I've been to lately have been packed and the lines long. We waited in line 30 minutes at the flagship store in Denver on a random weekday last summer (yes, multiple registers were open).

A lot of places don’t sell Firearms. I don’t go to a big box store for firearms I go to local gun shops. I support local business. Right now most big box store are struggling because people are buying on line. Outdoor gear is not a necessity it’s a luxury. People are buying necessities. The cost of housing is through the roof , debt has increased. It’s crazy right now.

@__GALLANT__

13 күн бұрын

I mostly agree with you. But I have a feeling that outdoor gear is liable to become a necessity before too long. Just thinking.

@michaelhislop4840

12 күн бұрын

That we don't shop REI for firearms is not relevant; what is relevant is that it took a stand against a constitutional right.

@v10dodge87

11 күн бұрын

You missed the point. Dense 🤡

REI member 1976. The one store in RI is a 15 minute drive from 3 major college who seem to be the target of their marketing efforts

REI has a bizarre policy where they take back filthy boots that are worn the F out, and resell them in their yard sale area. Yet I had a pair of pristine Oboz that had the back of the heel padding fall apart, and they wouldnt take them back since they were 13 months old.

rei went woke-got broke.

@tinymetaltrees

14 күн бұрын

Seriously. More like DEI.