Another good fight is between a souldrinker captain and the commisar of a penal legion. The commisar knew that he had no chance at killing an Astartes, so he simply tried to defend himself. He landed a single hit, wounding the Astartes before dying by the Space Marines hands. His last thought was "At least I managed to wound him. That is more then I had hoped for."

@raznaak

6 ай бұрын

Man, that story was just sad. Neither of them wanted to harm the other. They even respected each other, almost liked each other. But they were required to kill each other by their oaths, and neither could back down...

@ct7567CaptRex

6 ай бұрын

Do you know the name of that novel?

@SurprisinglyDeep

6 ай бұрын

Was that a Soul Drinkers novel?

@Ottersanity

6 ай бұрын

Even with the Warp Mutations of having a Spiders body a regular human managed to wound him

@oo-xb6gv

6 ай бұрын

@@raznaakwait why?

The lucifer black impaling alpharius was probably the most badass a human gets.

@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472

6 ай бұрын

That was obviously a lie

@Shoundaime

6 ай бұрын

​@@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472Alpharius impaled Alpharius while Alpharius tried to stop him. This is also a lie.

@nerofoxkrell

6 ай бұрын

Nah wanna see something more Badass checkout the last stand of the Blackwatch in BattleTech

@dullest117

6 ай бұрын

From what book?

@robluxipiech4033

6 ай бұрын

I never knew a mortal landed a blow on a primarch

Cain: "freak it, we ballin'"

@Regooba

6 ай бұрын

To be fair I think most of the traitor marines he squared up on were severely wounded. Not to take anything away as it is still an impressive feat. Edit: I have been corrected, it was only 1 really wounded.

@berilsevvalbekret772

6 ай бұрын

​@@Regooba they were also KHORNATE BERSERKERS.

@Regooba

6 ай бұрын

Like I said, I didn't want to take anything away from him on it lol. You right, you right.@@berilsevvalbekret772

@sebastianls412

6 ай бұрын

@@Regoobahe ‘killed’ two, the first full strength and he held him off until Jurgen could use his trusty melta, the second was heavily wounded and really only finished off by cain. But I mean, holding off a fucking khorne berzerker of the world eaters is a fucking feat I tell you what

@Regooba

6 ай бұрын

@@sebastianls412 Okay, I thought they had both been injured but there you go. Like I said, I wasn't taking away from Cain and what he did, I just thought the circumstances were different.

It's so in character for an Iron Warrior to hear "i am Lord John tenth of my name of This and that regiment and planet, prepare to die..." and answer "i am filth, get ready to die."

@FueganTheAnnihilator

6 ай бұрын

Iron Warrior was courteous enough to give some degree of a title back 🤷🏽‍♂️ Tbh idk how in character that is for an Iron Warrior specifically but for a generalized traitor marine he’s pretty chill

@thenerfkid9228

6 ай бұрын

​​@@FueganTheAnnihilatorI mean, yeah honsou's pretty chill. Other then him being the guy who made the daemonculaba.

@giacomoromano8842

6 ай бұрын

@@FueganTheAnnihilator chaos space marines love to talk shit, the way he answered back was quite sassy if you ask me, what worse than to be killed by scum and a mongrel for a pompous noble?

@TheEmeraldMenOfficial

6 ай бұрын

@@thenerfkid9228And for that reason alone, fuck him

@norlanderduwallis9074

5 ай бұрын

​@@thenerfkid9228 I was gonna say lmao Honsou interests: idk man I like to chill, I like a good duel, I like tinkering with things, making stuff, fixing stuff, forcing enslaved quadruple amputee peasant women to give birth to fully grown men, baking

Meanwhile my commissar on the tabletop ripping apart a dark apostle in melee "Yes....YEEESS"

@leonhardable

5 ай бұрын

So you're the guy that created Cain

@anirudhashok3332

5 ай бұрын

The dark apostle shitting himself as he sees a fucking unaugmented mortal rip apart 3 of his kind

@mastercoolguy2809

5 ай бұрын

Different but reminds me of the time my white scars sergeant took on three tyranid shrikes…. and won

@dad_hoc

5 ай бұрын

In a tired stupor (playing a game online at 3am) recently, I charged a slightly wounded Armiger Glaive with a 20 man Krieg blob... and killed it in melee. With shovels and bayonets. No clue what the fuck I was thinking but I'm sure this is ALMOST lore friendly.

@anirudhashok3332

5 ай бұрын

@@dad_hocwhich game is it that you can do this in

You gotta do comissar cains feats. Fought 2 hive tyrants, ork warbosses, korn bersekers. MORTALITY AT ITS FINESS.

@valdr2286

6 ай бұрын

Dumb luck or lucky but dumb

@jekabsojarsulskis9740

6 ай бұрын

​@valdr2286 eeeeh hard to say. He does think like a normal modern-day human, sees how over the top 40k is. But we have to remmeber he is a commissar. So hard to see if it is just luck. My wager somewhere 40 to 50% luck, the rest is skill.

@Sujad

6 ай бұрын

@@valdr2286 Dumb luck and Jurgen.

@andrewgause6971

6 ай бұрын

​@@SujadThis. Cain is a chainsword master who practices three hours a day *religiously* (it's about the only thing he takes seriously) and in both cases, it bought him time for Jurgen to line up the meltagun. Which in fairness, is precisely what Cain said happened. He never tried to take credit for those kills (in a public display of humility that may or may not have been designed to make the rumormill that he killed them singlehandedly run all the more rampant).

@kingjonstarkgeryan8573

6 ай бұрын

​@@valdr2286He is both extremely lucky and actually really capable as a swordsman.

TIS BUT A FLESH WOUND

@BLACKWOODPMC

6 ай бұрын

A flesh wound? Your bloody arms gone

@Chaosworshiper

6 ай бұрын

​@@BLACKWOODPMCITS A MINOR WOUND

@loopsmybrother6156

6 ай бұрын

No it isn't

@Astralangeluwu

6 ай бұрын

@igger171 it's not gone brother, it's right over there

@Spacefriend594

6 ай бұрын

@@BLACKWOODPMCHe’s Iron warriors, he’ll replace it with a gun or something

“A mortal could not fight an astartes in one on one combat and win” Sly Marbo: “Aaaaaaaaaahhhh”

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

Sly is no mortal.

@AlderBrightwood

5 ай бұрын

Sly marbo sneezed and infected an entire squad of plague marines with the common cold.

@nick-hu1nx

5 ай бұрын

@@Ashtor1337 honestly that would explain a lot, he could be a perpetual who had the bad luck of being born on Catachan and had like 1000 years of mastering that planet.

@twilitlloyd7167

5 ай бұрын

Look, nobody really knows how Sly Marbo does his thing, but in the words of the Joker, “There is nothing mere about that mortal.”

@SvengelskaBlondie

5 ай бұрын

Sly is more like a walking exterminatus than a mere mortal.

I enjoyed seeing ordinary humans with anti-armor blades actually give astartes some trouble in the Fulgrim novel.

@Fikoj

6 ай бұрын

Space marine: heh I won, that soilder gave a good- *chainsword reving* Space marine: o h g o d

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

It was stupid. Considering his chapter is some of the best dualists alive, it's all BS.

@sneedchuckington

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ashtor1337it doesn't matter how good you are, a large force with weapons that can actually pierce your armour is going to be a bad day

@kikkpod5887

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ashtor1337it actually is explained really well in the novel. These fighters were originally "friends" and did many mock duels until they had 11 fighters or so finally get a tag on him. Then when they rebelled they armed with the armor piercing weapons and used 12 soldiers to take him down. Then fulgrim appears and they force him to execute all 12 of them no fight to dishonor fulgrim.

@mcmarkmarkson7115

5 ай бұрын

just bad writing. No mortal should be able to even touch an unarmed astartes with their crazy reflexes not to mention their power armor further amplifying their inhuman abilities

Theres also instance where Ciaphas Chain dueling with the Khorne Berserker (which he taunt him iirc) and stall him long enough to get in killing range of melta cannon. Overall a single normal human who give an astartes a challenge albeit rarely is cool regardless.

@daddypudding9074

6 ай бұрын

Tbf, he WAS gonna bite it, Ciaphas even was panicked cause he realised he can’t DO much against an opponent like a berserker. Of course to everyone else, he was fighting 1v1, on even footing to buy time for the troopers. Real truth though, he gonna go bye.

@boartank

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, the dude in the Short fought a real 1v1. Technically, Cain did win both fights but can't finish both berserkers safely without 3rd parties. We count those. Jurgen diff.

@thebighurt2495

6 ай бұрын

Just keeping them at bay was damn straight incredible

@bassjunkie85

6 ай бұрын

This guy just a castallan, though.. A mere scion of a posh house family on a random planet.. He's nothing compared to a high level Commissar.. Either way, any melee damage dealt to an astartes, ESPECIALLY a heretic, is a feat worth respecting

@KossolaxtheForesworn

6 ай бұрын

cain externally - hahaa dare you face me foul scum. cain internally - SCREAMING IN UTTER TERROR

A mortal cannot fight an Astartes *fairly* in one on one combat and win 👀

@desgildanphi8825

6 ай бұрын

I don't know if Straken count

@Uthajoe

6 ай бұрын

No such thing as a fair fight.

@jacobsalmi5582

6 ай бұрын

Guy with a stick °_°

@velstadtvonausterlitz2338

6 ай бұрын

​@@jacobsalmi5582retconned

@averageeughenjoyer6429

6 ай бұрын

@@jacobsalmi5582lol yeah that word bearer ate shit

*Gaunt cutting one in half has entered the chat*

@Thamian

5 ай бұрын

Was scrolling the comments looking for this one - iirc it was on Gereon in the Nightgane swamps.

@mita7715

Ай бұрын

Also there is the time Mkoll ran a training exercise with a white scar. He managed to defeat him by ambushing him, but then 2 other astartes left their hiding spot behind Mkoll and got him to surrender. What they did not anticipate where the dummy explosives he planted underneath the floorboards. So Mkoll hypothetically managed to take out three space marines in exchange for his life

Imagine having the face the Lord of Iron, the man who decimated his legion for their failures upon meeting them, and having to explain to him that you lost your arm dueling a random human officer of the guard... I have a suspicion that although the wound wasn't immediately lethal, it killed Honzu in the end, albeit in a different way.

@treybboles

6 ай бұрын

What’s funny is, of the main IW commanders, Honsou is the only one to not get chewed out and is actually rewarded after this battle by The Warsmith.

@averageskavenenjoyer3144

6 ай бұрын

Nah, they literally played tabletop warhammer together right before Cadia

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

Try again. He knew the loss of the arm was temporary and ended the match is a way that shows how powerless humans are.

@KalashVodka175

5 ай бұрын

@@Ashtor1337 Powerless? That dude could absolutely have killed Honsou if he hadn’t had this rush of overconfidence after taking the first arm Honsou was at danger of death and thats why he used a trick instead of bruteforcing victory

@blecao

5 ай бұрын

He got posessed by a demon and he got a promotion

Technically a guardsman can win if the space marine dosent wear a helmet and the guardsman has a lasgun

@boredniko2406

6 ай бұрын

Depends on the writer and how plot armored they want the marine to be.

@Engifarting456

5 ай бұрын

@@boredniko2406 true

@arandomguardsmen

5 ай бұрын

Does this space marine named

@ZadenWoW

5 ай бұрын

Guardaman kill traitor marines fairly often. This refers to 1 on 1 melee combat. Where the physical strength of a traitor astartes is simply too great to overcome. Manning a Las cannon or getting lucky with a plasma or melta gun goesnt count

@Engifarting456

5 ай бұрын

@@arandomguardsmen no

"A mere mortal can not kill a space marine in melee combat." Damn I wish the table top was that accurate lol

@pugh783

6 ай бұрын

Table top reality lore is propaganda :) That's how I always seen it

@kompatybilijny9348

5 ай бұрын

​@@pugh783Who's propaganda?

@pugh783

5 ай бұрын

@kompatybilijny9348 Usually, most lore is written from an Imperial perspective, but it depends what you are reading and who is giving the narrative. For instance "A mere mortal can not kill a space marine in melee combat" That would be imperial propaganda to hype up space marines.

@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039

3 ай бұрын

That would make playing Imperial Guard very imbalanced

@kompatybilijny9348

3 ай бұрын

@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 To be fair, deploying space Marines against guardsmen is like trying to deploy special forces against regular army - sure, the spec-ops are way better trained and equipped, but they will just get shredded by the heavy equipment. And that's usually how it goes for traitor Marines - they deploy, get one charge off, kill 5 guardsmen, then they catch 3 crack Rockets and fucking die

Cain 1v2 injured khorn marines

@blacksabbath5300

6 ай бұрын

He also folded the swarm lord

@genericscout5408

6 ай бұрын

the first Berserker Cain fought 1 v 1 until Jurgen could shoot. The chainsword probably couldn't have killed the marine, but had Cain used a power sword he would have won easily.

@Sigismund697

5 ай бұрын

IIRC one Cain killed because he already had a huge hole on his chest and was basically dying already the other he merely stalled thanks to the berserker going for a vertical cut, Cain mentioned that had he used any other move he would have died but with a vertical attack Cain was able to deflect it just enough for the berserker to hit his own foot

@blacksabbath5300

5 ай бұрын

@@Sigismund697 Cain constantly understates his own ability. Don’t ever take his own statements as true, because though he is a coward, even us, the rare few that really know the truth to his heroism, don’t come close to looking down on him as much as he does himself. He’s tussled with the swarm lord, who’s literally killed one of the best chapter master duelists. The only reason Dante didn’t die was because sanguinius reminded his son that dying was gay.

@Sigismund697

5 ай бұрын

@@blacksabbath5300 that doesn't change what I said tho he might underestimate himself but that doesn't change the fact those two berserkers were not pure 1v1 he definitely has skill but those two are just lucky breaks

Maybe not in an honorable duel. But a dude in a loincloth managed to pop out of a bush, and got a lucky hit through the gorget of a chaos marine. Poked a pointy stick through his chin and into his brain.

@michaelmoore2679

6 ай бұрын

Pointy stick is the all time MVP of weapons. Sure you can drop the life eater virus and kill everything on the planet. But pointy stick is always waiting for the moment you foolishly let your guard down.

@ThePathStrider

5 ай бұрын

If the Marine was a Night Lord Raptor, I think I've read it.

@Ghastly1

5 ай бұрын

From the same book where a Custodian was told one of his companions was killed by a bunch of stone age Cadians and he believed it

@KnightofLondor

5 ай бұрын

Colonel Commissar Gaunt also kills a chaos marine using a relic powersword, after the marines assault them in a fucked up swamp during a storm that impedes visibility to the point that the marines can't track the Ghosts.

@solidkuroko2926

5 ай бұрын

A naked woman with a big chain sword killed three before being downed too. And that wasn't with the element of surprise. It was with Raw z e a l

Perturabo: "Bah you simpleton Honsou! Remember the ancient saying 'if you're in a fair fight then your tactics suck' that we Iron Warriors took from the ancient American military!"

Eisenhorn killed an emperors children astartes.

@VA_Nightshade

6 ай бұрын

I don't think Psykers count as fair opponents lol

@macewindu3492

6 ай бұрын

True, by chucking a cursed book at him which distracted him long enough for Eisenhorn to decapitate him

@lokensicarius9347

6 ай бұрын

word bearer too

@Wytooken

6 ай бұрын

​@@VA_Nightshade Eisenhorn is funny because he just canonically is carried by his gear. I think Ravenor is only delta level psyker initially and Eisenhorn is weaker than him, but then lager they say his crystal skull staff can boost him to alpha+ , which... cmon man lol

@ZadenWoW

5 ай бұрын

Guardaman kill traitor marines fairly often. This refers to 1 on 1 melee combat. Where the physical strength of a traitor astartes is simply too great to overcome. Manning a Las cannon or getting lucky with a plasma or melta gun goesnt count

If I remember correctly, Hansou is a big named Iron Warrior character who does some crazy shit later on. Fact his arm was sliced off by a normal human commissar is impressive as hell

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

Unless he was trying to lose it.

@KnightofLondor

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ashtor1337He wasn't, lol. Read Storm of Iron, that dude is a fuckin badass.

Personally, I’d wager yarrick could crack open most astartes like a sardine can.

@Lancersilva

6 ай бұрын

It did take a daemon primarch to kill him so yeah maybe

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

6 ай бұрын

@@Lancersilva and now that big red git is gonna learn why the blood god keeps a fella by the name of tuska around and what orks do when they are motivated to hurt warp gits.

@devianttoast5828

5 ай бұрын

Wasn't he literally empowered by Waagh?

@blacksabbath5300

5 ай бұрын

@@Lancersilva admittedly, I think angron was a bit overkill. But most space marines would get trampled as angron didn’t notice them…

@blacksabbath5300

5 ай бұрын

@@devianttoast5828 even before that he was nuts. He had his arm chopped off, fought through the shock and killed the war boss anyway. Top tier human, along with Cain, any Lucifer black, assassins…

Cain and sly Marbo: *signature look of superiority and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…*

@jamesshillinglaw6884

5 ай бұрын

Yes, the power of AAAAAAAAAAA can not be understated.

@andreibossahtamon3950

5 ай бұрын

he sad humans , not fucking gods

@nerodia

5 ай бұрын

The crazy part is both Mkoll and Mkvenner are on Sly Marbo's level at this point. And they're from the more modern, less silly lore.

@KnightofLondor

5 ай бұрын

​@@nerodiaGaunt's Ghosts my beloved

"A mortal cannot fight an Astartes in 1vs1" Sly Marbo: *Boom headshots another Chaos Astartes*

Vauban Is also à french renaissance military engineer. He is the one Who create like 80 percent of all french forteresse and the moderne paternbof forteresse use is template. And he theorise the trench warfare. Kind of à father for krieger. He live undercover the reign of Louis 14.

@richardtaillon1616

6 ай бұрын

Yo! Did someone say Vauban in here?

@iz9744

6 ай бұрын

Yea... Glad someone else knows that.

"A mortal can't stand to Astartes." Marbo, Straken and Harker are immortal, got you😅 Also old man Abelard apparently is so good with opening "tincans" that even NCR rangers would blush;)

@sexmachine0732

19 күн бұрын

Abelard is just built different

astartes anonymous always coming through with quality shorts 👏🏾👏🏼👏🏿👏🏽👏🏻

@beamrunner0471

28 күн бұрын

Y’all are we not gonna talk about the official KZread account commenting here?

How have you not heard of Ciaphas Cain? He's got a theme song, and everything.

Meanwhile Aurora of the word bearers when he sees an angry greatsword abelard barreling towards him sweating nervously.

@Sigismund697

5 ай бұрын

wish I could have used Abelard on that fight, put him behind cover next to Hendrix and he got decimated by Aurora's heavy bolter on turn one oddly enough Hendrix was right next to Aurora yet got like 3 damage from that Guess Abelard really took all for the team

Yup, Honsou oddly did show him respect for a mortal. He challenged a chaos marine to 1v1. He lost but hr tried and did not show fear. Far as a chaos marine respects a mortal human

@kharnthebetrayer1575

6 ай бұрын

Honsou is one of the most intelligent of the Iron Warriors.

@jezzofprezz5207

6 ай бұрын

Honsou was like ‘I’m iron, but you got some steel’

@lethalscarabb5674

5 ай бұрын

I've see Honsou in some other books, and always wondered how he initially lost his arm, this might explain his reluctance to duel, these days.

"A mortal cannot fight an astartes and win" Kreiger with a boomy spear and a horse: gluten tag, ya big stinky heretic

@thebighurt2495

6 ай бұрын

If you put a Jrieger Grenadier and a Cathachan in the same room, I'm honestly not sure who's walking back out alive, though not intact

@grahamlopez3742

21 күн бұрын

​@@thebighurt2495 depends, is either of them named? And does the Kreiger have a horse? They get somehow get stronger when there's a horse

@thebighurt2495

21 күн бұрын

@@grahamlopez3742 Fair. For balance sake, we're gonna assume they're either both or neither named and there's not a horse to be seen.

@grahamlopez3742

21 күн бұрын

@thebighurt2495 probably the catachan then. Kreigers don't win by skill, they win by attrition. Throw enough men against a target and eventually they'll break under pressure or run out of bullets

@thebighurt2495

21 күн бұрын

@@grahamlopez3742 *Laughs darkly* You don't know what a Krieger Grenadier is, do you? Or rather, what makes them special.

the traitor astartes had to use trickery to win, speaks volumes of the man's skill

@matthewcoster5535

6 ай бұрын

It's no more trickery than any other strategist or warrior might use. He sacrificed his arm to win an advantage. Were he not an Astartes, and if it wasn't possible to clone, or reattach his arm or replace it with cybernetics, this would probably be one of Honsou's last fights.

@ianpartrick8347

6 ай бұрын

​@matthewcoster5535 I don't think the arm was intentional, but Space Marines regard loss of limb as Tuesday, and so the seeming opening wasn't truly an opening - against a human being you'd be almost assured a kill shot after taking a limb, but Honsou simply wasn't shocked or off guard, and proved it.

@matthewcoster5535

6 ай бұрын

@@ianpartrick8347 True but this still kind of proves my point. Honsou was perfectly willing to lose the arm at any rate since to Space Marines it isn't a great loss in the long run. Then again even mortals in the Imperium can lose a limb and it doesn't really effect combat effectiveness in the long run.

@mattmetawolf8634

5 ай бұрын

@@matthewcoster5535 yeah but all the things you can lose an arm to your created to be one of the perfect warriors made by the emperor himself you were literally made to be unstoppable and untouchable to mortal then the fact that you have to lose an arm in order to basically take down the guy who’s keeping up with you in slashes and sword blows speaks volumes. And it’s pitiful that you got to lose an arm in order to basically prove that your strategy is better. Especially when you’re not fighting a Tyrantnid, an Ork or Eldar and kroot just seems kind of wild but a guy with so many titles still managed to make him stumble a bit despite how fake it may have seem to get him to impale himself on his sword he still should have been good if not better enough to not lose an arm to a lesser enemy like that

Eisenhorn would like a word

Wow, he probably would have outright won if he knew space marines had a pain tolerance of yes.

Eisenhorn killed an emperor's children, with a trick to be fair. Later he killed a word bearer in single combat. Commisar Gaunt slew a Astartes in traitor general, tbf it wasn't a 1v1 fight, he just attacked the Astartes from behind

@boredniko2406

6 ай бұрын

Gaunt has a few CSM kills through various means.

@user-pf8hs7nv6z

2 ай бұрын

If you find yourself in a fair fight, either: 1. Your tactics suck 2. Your officers suck Any time a normal human is forced to fight marine in melee is a sign of battle plan being poor, so even if he manages to survive, his commanders have to face legal charges.

It’s been a while since I’ve read the Outcast Dead, but didn’t an agent of Malcador named Yasu Nagasena manage to kill a World Eater?

@bloodraven1190

6 ай бұрын

Not only that, but in later books, he nearly killed Lucius in melee combat, only losing because a weakened Thousand Sons psyker prevented Nagasena from cutting Lucius' head off through psychic stuff.

@mattmetawolf8634

5 ай бұрын

@@bloodraven1190 Yeah but to be fair if this is the same guy who comes back after always getting killed by becoming his opponent I would think that it wouldn’t of mattered regardless because he seems to always be his dark God’s favorite pocket pussy

@BM-is5ei

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I swear to god i couldn't remember his f-ing name. All I came up with was "Yasser Arafat or sth."

@mattikahlke9271

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but to be fair the power- dynamics in this book were pretty wild. Earlier an unarmed World Eater managed to kill a custodes

@BM-is5ei

5 ай бұрын

@@mattikahlke9271 there is some weird shit in the earlier hh books. I think it was in the lost and the damned where one surviving Thunder Warrior absolutely kicked the snot out of like 4 legionaries at the same time or sth.

Commisar Cain fights are like the DM tried to TPK, and the players keep rolling 20s. He held his oen against a space marine, but even he knew it wasnt going to end well if it kept going.

@narcisoferreira9976

5 ай бұрын

Didnt Cain say something like "If it hadnt been an overhead smash I wouldnt have been able to deflect it and would have died."?

I know it's pretty much a death wish to undergo a space marine augmentation at that age but still would have been one of humanity's best ever

A fast and highly skilled opponent can beat a much stronger one, but as seen in this example, a single mistake means death

@slayeroffurries1115

5 ай бұрын

Being faster than an Astartes is really hard

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

He wasn't faster.

@Longshot88

3 ай бұрын

If Astartes were actually as fast as they are said to be in the books (looking likena blur to regular people when they fight), your best best is catching the bastard off guard and try to snipe. And you'd better hope it's one of the arrogant ones without their helmet 😂

@user-pf8hs7nv6z

2 ай бұрын

@@Longshot88 there is a lot of hints that marines without helmets in combat is just an in-universe romanticized artistic description, just like 18th century paintings of major battles which exaggerate certain aspects and are made for people to easy understand who is who and what is happening (because in the actual mess of the battlefield it's not an easy task, especially for a civilian) If we take traitor marines, some of them would take off helmets to do...stuff that no chaos-uninfluenced person would ever do (they're insane), and some are so unlucky with their mutations that their helmets are just ripped apart by horns and tentacles bursting out.

Excuse me but Sly Morbo requests you location

"a mortal cannot fight an Astarted in one on one combat and win" "Abelard, introduce me"

Everyone mentions the legendary coward Cain who squared up against multiple raging Khornate World Eaters. Now the novels are from his perspective and he constantly underplays his own achievements since he suffers from a serious case of imposter syndrome. But even with how much he underscores his own value, he went into melee with raging Khornate berserkers and won (albeit by primarily holding them off long enough for Jurgen to use a Melta). But if Cain is capable of squaring off long enough against a Khornate Space Marine who has been alive for 1000s of years and survive, he could reasonably defeat newer inexperienced Space Marines of Chapters/Legions who place less importance in Melee. After all, Cain was acknowledged and nearly defeated loyalist Marines in multiple friendly duels and was very well respected even by the Space Marine Chapters he worked with.

@thebighurt2495

6 ай бұрын

He put a chink in the armor of an Iron Hands-descended Chapter Chief Techmarine and the dude decided to leave it as a reminder to never underestimate your opponent

@Nerthos

5 ай бұрын

If he can melee a khornate berserker imagine what he can do agsinst Tau

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

No, just no. Khorne Marines don't use dual they just rip and tear. As long as blood flows their god is happy. If you have to dual a space marine hope it's a khorne berserker. They will just chop at you.

@user-pf8hs7nv6z

2 ай бұрын

How did he manage to survive khornites charges exactly? These guys are fast, don't care about their own wounds, and are extremely bloodthirsty. My bet is that time spent in warp corrupted their armor to the point it was hard for them to move with the default astartes speed (which is nothing a mortal can achieve with any training)

Chaiphas Cain who defeated multable khorne Bezerkers: am i a joke to you

@adrianflores7269

2 ай бұрын

Just the man I was thinking about

Imagine being a Space Marine, losing a fight to a mortal so bad you have to sacrifice your arm to open the man up to a mortal blow

“Cross blades with me is you wish to die.” “I will cross blades with you.” I don’t know why I like that reply so damn much.

Ciaphas Cain 1v1nd a Space Marine in a duel to see who could land a hit first and he won. The Space Marine decided not to repair the cut on his armor and leave it there as a reminder to never underestimate an opponent.

Cyphus Kane surpassed that noble. He fought an astarties and actually one sword to sword.

Honsou: Impressive titles, unfortunately i have none. Vauban: but would you lose? Honsou: Nah. . . I'd win

Storm of Iron was the first Warhammer book i was recommended. What a journey!

@gaiuscaesar3841

5 ай бұрын

Finished my first read after xmas. It was a good book.

Sargent Mkoll did im fairly certain. The time when he got captured but decided he was too cool for that and broke free broke a bunch of others free, including a space marine then in a 1v1 killed the bbeg by ramming a fucking land mine down his throat.

@ragnarokivae6136

6 ай бұрын

In which book does this happen?

@knucker2730

6 ай бұрын

Also I was wring it was a 1 v 2 Brin milo was there.

@cormacbrowne9571

6 ай бұрын

​@@ragnarokivae6136One of Dan Abnett's Gaunts Ghosts. The last one I think, been years since I read them.

Ok, hear me out... I KNOW that the way Space Marines are powerscaled in Gaunt's Ghosts is way off, but still... The leader of the Scouts in those books, the absolute legend, engaged in some sort of Tag-like sneak off exercise, fooled 3 Space Marines for days and essentially forced them into a stalemate by leading them all into a room, filled with enough explosive, to blow up the ship they were in...

@guardsmanwithcripplingdepr4594

6 ай бұрын

And let's not forget about the fact that gaunt faced a khornate astarte and won in Traitor General...bc of course you 1v1 a transhuman super soldier whose soul existence is melee

@MrBlandUsername

5 ай бұрын

I mean, to be honest, I hate how Marines feel like DBZ characters in a bunch of the books. It makes more sense that they are clunky walking tanks. I think Gaunt's Ghosts scales them about right.

"A mortal cannot fight an astartes in one on one combat and win" Sly Marbo enters the chat

There’s just something so cool about a scene where a mere mortal goes up against a monster. We all know how it’s very likely to end, but it’s that indomitable human will to go on that gives up hope against all odds.

Tell that to cain. Killing a learder of a chaos warband

I really wanna see something similar play out with an Astardies and a Custodies

@Ashtor1337

5 ай бұрын

Read first heretic

Cain: "I didn't hear no bell!"

The one unnamed human who managed to single handedly tear out either a custodians or word bearers throat with a wooden spear in the first heretic

I would say sly marbo, but he wouldn't waste his time with 1v1

Honsou knew he was outmatched. So he played the part of a fool so his opponent would think this is a matter of schooling.

Shit, that's gotta be one of the most metal badass humans to exist in fiction

@averageeughenjoyer6429

6 ай бұрын

A guy killed a word bearer with a sharpened wooden stick

If I remember correctly, there was a stone age human who stabbed an astartes in the neck with a wooden spear (mortally wounding him) before getting ripped in half by that very same dying space marine.

“Stand proud, Castellan. You are strong.” -honsou

I mean, the dude got an arm. That’s a few hundred times better than I expected. Well done.

Mortal man: I trained all my (short) life with the blade Astartes: What is training? Oh you mean childhood? I to did do that.

Gaunt killed one with the powersword of Heronimo Sundar. Along with help killing a second with technically "feral" world tribals. In the book Traitor General.

@LandscapeParkranger

5 ай бұрын

Best Book ever!

@HypnoDogger

5 ай бұрын

​@@LandscapeParkranger It is such an awesome series!

"Mortals can't fight astartis and win." Adeptus assasinorum: Bet?

Certified "you deny your blade it's purpose" moment

For a second, I thought this was gonna be about when Ciaphas Caine barely survived an encounter with a World Eater lol

Yoooo we need more of this how youblet him lose man 😂😂

The mortals can't fight Astartes in one on one combat, which is why Gaunt's team fought them in a five on one with blinky flashlights turned up to retina burning levels!

I would like to hear more tales of regular humans doing incredible feats of greatness.

😂 *Cough * Cough Sly Marbo the legendary Catachan 😂

Props to the Castellan, straight up threatened a chaos marine, and was complimented in return. Granted he did die but that was always gonna happen

"If you do not fear the lasgun, then you have not faced down one thousand of them at once" - Chaos space marine.

So that is how Honsou lost his arm. Well, he got a cybernetic replacement that was loads better so all worked out well for him in the end.

Eisenhorn enters the contest

Okay. NOW I get spoiler warnings, lol I'm 2/3 through that book 😂 its talked about a lot almost none of it hasnt bee spoiled to me now

Storm of Iron was the first Warhammer book I ever read and damn was it, and still is, amazing

Ah you you forgot the hero of the imperium himself, ciaphus cain

A real “if i sacrifice my left arm” moment.

This guy just did the equivalent of a space marine maiming a bloodthirster in one on one melee.

So we not gonna talk about Eisenhorn absolutely obliterating one in a single hit of his sword in the first Bequin book? Harlon nearly dies laughing when she recounts the event in front of him and Eizenhorn later. "I saw what you did to that Space Marine. Your not normal."

Ciaphus Cain fought Khorne CSMs twice and won both times.

Guardsman holding a Melta: Say sike right now.

one of my favorite moments from solar war was a solar auxilia sergeant vs a newborn sons of horus. it was like the mountain vs oberon martel and ended in the same fashion

Regular human with a plasma gun: "You sure about that?"

Sly Marbo has one long argument. And you know exactly what he has to say about it

Sly marbo: hold my beer

Thinking you have outplayed an Iron Warrior is like trying to drink a Space Wolf under the table.

If this guy could get so close to killing Honsu, a chaos warlord, he could definitely take on a rank and file astartes. Regular humans beating astartes is exceedingly rare... but not impossible.

Yasu Nagasena was a human swordsman of immense skill that went blow for blow with Lucius aboard the black ship Kamiti Sona. He did eventually lose although surviving the encounter. When you think about his opponent and how well he did, it was one of the greatest feats of marshall prowess a human has ever displayed.

That one cave man with a pointy stick: I’m gonna do what’s called a pro Terran move

Having the power of the Emperor and anime at your side, along with studying the blade instead of studying for school, finally paid off

A Guardsman of Kreig: wow what a cool fight... Now I'd like to introduce you to my shovel-

Yarrick. So badass he replaced his arm with an ork claw machine and it works because the orks concentrated psyche says it does. So it does.

A great quote from Fallout is from Doctor House in reference to the Brotherhood of Steel. He speaks about how they acted arrogantly and proudly like the knights of yore in their armor but the NCR showed them that all their fancy armor and dogma meant nothing in the face of 15 to 1 odds. The NCR brought more soldiers than the Brotherhood had bullets and overwhelmed the brotherhood devastating their numbers. In Warhammer the same is true an astartes alone can defeat any normal human but 15 well armed and trained humans to one astartes stands a chance.

In solar war an officer of the solar auxilia almost kills a sons of Horus space marine before if my memory isn’t failing me getting shot by a different space marine

Commissar Cain managed to scratch a techmarine's armor in a sparring match.

In this vein, I'd have really liked to see Gaunt and Hark tag team a chaos space marine. No idea if they'd get the job done, but still, would be cool!

Ciaphas Cain fought a world eater 1v1 and held his own

Ironhand Strakken: "Hold my Beer, Boy"