Thank you for the clear, simple explanation and video on this subject. I appreciate you taking the time to do so. Greetings from South Florida.

Thank you very much for this tutorial! I've been searching for refillable replacements forever!!

Ha! So I noticed that amazon had a video explaining that the pads mimic the chrysanthemum and did some research and found Pyrethrin is probably what thermacell uses on their pads and did a quick KZread search and found you! That’s awesome that you have confirmed what I was thinking about trying. Thank you!

Best video I've seen on this . Thank you for straightforward easy to follow instructions. I'm definitely going to try this 🙂. Cheers from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦.

Sweet short and to the point. Thank you!!!!

This video is TRUELY the best. It should have more views. SHARE this video.

Excellent. I may Never buy another Thermacell refill again. I've seen a few Thermacell videos and this one is the best. In south Texas the mosquito is the unofficial state bug.

thank you very much for this. It is so helpful!

Excellent. I've been looking for the fluid replacement for the pads. Pyrethrin. Thank you.

I'm not a hunter but I am someone who just HAS to be outside enjoying my garden both at both dusk and dawn when mosquitos are at their worst. Here in Houston ,that would not be possible for me without bathing in bug spray......I use my Thermacell daily but because I live on SS was having a very hard timekeeping up with the cost of refills......Thank you so much for sharing all of this information. You have made a big difference for me.

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. I couldn’t afford to buy the refills

Decent video, I just bought one this morning and came home to find the solution.Thank you great video,Thanks

U forgot one VERY important and easy step. After U take the check valve out with a drywall screw, put a little drop of super glue around the valve so U don’t have any potential leaks. Much safer!

I've always filled the cartridge with the brass fitting out and then put my thumb over the hole while i get the brass nipple back in to the bottle. I'll see if I can do it this way next. Didn't know the brass nipple had a 2 way door.

You are awesome!!! Thank you soooo much!!!!

Excellent, thanks!!!

Legend, many thanks

Great video. I always accidentally leave mine on so this will save me $

I have never bought one becose of the rip off of the gas and pads but now im thinking of getting one.

Could I put the 5:1 solution in a dropper bottle, and just add a few drops, during use, as the pad runs out? 🤔 GIANT Thanks! 🙏🏻 I can’t believe what they charge for such a simple thing.

Legend thanks.

So that's just water your diluding with? I've refilled my cartridges before just never redid the pads.... Went out tonight and can't find the pyrethrin anywhere, will have to order it online

I see Ali Express has these pads cheap. What I cant seem to find anywyere is can i just use a pad with a diffuser and a a pad on top while the candle burns below ?

what is the concentration of pyrethrin in the bottle you use before you dilute it?

Any hack will do us a great deal, scr*w you Thermacell for your overprice refill.. thanks for the video👍👍👍

Have you ever used permethrin? I have that at home and was wondering if it is okay to breath the smoke or fumes?

Where did you get the butane? And the ratio was that 5 to 1 water?

Please, what is the 5 to 1 ratio with the pyrethrin? 5 parts what to 1 part 1???

It's the secret stir man! That's the TRICK YO!

Maybe i missed it but is a 5 to 1 ratio 5 parts water and 1 part Pyrethrin?

@itshotinhouston

Жыл бұрын

I think it depends on the % of the solution you start with.

@stopthehate6843

Жыл бұрын

You didn't miss it! Still looking for that answer myself!

What if I put some pyrethrin in my cintranella tiki torches? In theory that would work no? Unless the solution explodes when mixed lol

Thanks. What did you dilute the pyrithrin with? (you mentioned 5:1, but i wasn't sure what the other ingredient was). Also, don't know what difference it makes, but the Thermacell pads I have say they contain "dcis/trans allethrin.", and its marketed as a repellent. How is the pyrethrin at repelling? Its listed as an insecticide, but I mostly want to keep them away.

@martinpmiller

4 жыл бұрын

allethrin The ThermaCELL Mosquito Repellent utilizes the active ingredient known as allethrin. It belongs to a class of materials called pyrethroids, which are synthetic analogs of pyrethrin, which is a naturally occurring insecticide found in certain types of chrysanthemum known as pyrethrum flowers.Oct 7, 2005

@AquaTech225

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what he used i would try alcohol is if it’s soluble after it drys the left over would just be the poison

@swamilainen

Жыл бұрын

I need to know as well. What is the pyrethrin cut with? Water? To be clear, is it 1 part pyrethrin and 5 parts something else and what is the "else"?

@randy_constan

Жыл бұрын

@@bradhenry7085 Sadly, 3 years and no reply, so as much as I hate to do it I had to give the video my thumbs down. Its probably a good idea, but I think anyone advising on mixing chemicals that leaves out such a basic thing, and then doesn't answer probably should be reported.

@josemexicanmexican7602

11 ай бұрын

Water

Just get you a piece of coaxial cable you probably have laying around your house.. Strip it to the metal and cut you a small piece of it.. Just the wire in the middle.. Put it in the butane can tip part and cut it till it is pushing in the valve on your thermacell bottle.. You don't want to long of a cable wire in store butane bottle it won't seal with the thermacell bottle as you push it in..

@mr.rogers9319

3 жыл бұрын

I've been doing that for years.Taking a piece of cut wire to push the valve down. I'm wondering where he got the Giant can of butane with changeable nipples on it. I've also seen that you can take citronella coils and cut them and put them in thermacells.

If you check the MSDS sheet that Thermacell is required to provide; its Federal law, btw, the active ingredients of the pads are Pyrethrum at 22.8% and 8.4% petroleum distillates. Likely the petroleum distillate is so the ads contents can be combusted, not the pad itself. I'm not sure smoking the pad in whatever solution of pyrethrum won't cause the pads to burn or at least singe, if that makes any difference.

@littlejackalo5326

6 ай бұрын

The petroleum distillate is a heavy oil that the pyrethrin is dissolved in.

Bonjour je suis du Québec au canada pour les tampons ces 5 eau pour un pyréthrine je crois je crois que au Québec la concentration est beaucoup plus faible que chez vous ,genre 0.25 % dois ton le mettre pur.Et merci pour votre partage je remplis maintenant les bouteille super facille il me reste a faire mes tampons

There are Chinese equivalents of this concept that also heat similar pads by plugging them into your USB power bank. I found that one of them produces more heat that electronic hand warmers at a fraction of the price. Do you think the Thermacell could also do double duty as a handwarmer to leave in your pocket without the pad in the winter while ice fishing, etc.?

@yongyea4147

3 жыл бұрын

It's burning fuel so it needs oxygen.

@littlejackalo5326

6 ай бұрын

It doesn't get anywhere near hot enough to do that.

@MountainParameters

6 ай бұрын

About a year ago I did an experiment to see if this concept would work or not. It turned out to be feasible to use the Thermacell as an auxiliary heat source in the winter. Due to the size of it, it's more convenient to put it in a pouch and carry it around your neck on a lanyard. I did a video and placed it in the handwarmers playlist of our YT channel. It can be found here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4GkpZOtgqmeZdo.html

Did those red butane bottle adapter tips come with the bottle or did you buy them separate?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

5 жыл бұрын

It’s on the cap of the butane

Greetings from Lee County Florida, do you shoot 3-D tournament's locally?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Roberts we do. We shoot lee county archers and lakatchka in Venice

@kevinroberts9580

5 жыл бұрын

@@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers I thought I recognized you guys but I wasn't sure. I'm the one that road around and the golf cart because of the messed up foot. Hope to see you there soon, or as soon as my foot gets healed. I haven't shot it all in a few months and I'm going stir-crazy. At least I have your videos to keep me sane

but it's supposed to be odorless. Is it odorless?

Brother...you got away from refilling the bottles...not sure why but how much are you putting back in? And, now with no check valve, I imagine it will be leaking every where?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve done hundreds of them and never had one leak. I am able to fill them to the top. They have 2 valves on them. The one that’s removed is the one that was only in there to make it so they can’t be refilled. The remaining valve is the one that keeps it from leaking when it’s not connected to anything.

Man, the pyrethrin has doubled in price. Can't find it for lower than $15.

What about the valve you removed? Did you put it back after you refilled the cartridge?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. The fill valve was all you needed I remove a one way valve in the video

Can't get pyrethrin here in California

Mr Quiver, where is that there canister on a Thermacell Lantern Sir?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

Жыл бұрын

Not sure. I never used a lantern

I tried to fill my Thermacell bottles today as I got the butane bottles. I got exactly the same Neon butane with the same tips... tried all tips, tried a different thermacell bottle, etc... - could not fill it. Certainly I removed the check valve that was inside the bottles. Based on your experience, is there any suggestions/ tricks filling the bottles?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

4 жыл бұрын

You can’t have a perfect seal when you press the tip into fill it. It needs air to escape as the butane liquid fills. Try filling it a little crooked

@jahangirhuseynov6679

4 жыл бұрын

Omnivore’s Homestead And Quivers Thank you! I will.

@anthonysmith9617

4 жыл бұрын

Cut a paper clip to a length that just sits outside the tip of butane tip slip it in, works perfectly

@jahangirhuseynov6679

4 жыл бұрын

Omnivore’s Homestead And Quivers I tried and it works! Thank you!

@jahangirhuseynov6679

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony S I will try this method as well. Thank you!

What number tip are you using? I bought the same butane but can not find the right tip.

@planb1764

3 жыл бұрын

#5. Gotta file it to a thinner point still.

can you elaborate on the secret stir?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an old joke. Can’t believe I even said it on film.

I'm curious if you can spray regular bug spray like cutter or off on the pads if that will work. I sprayed a used pad with cutter and it seemed to work.

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure but I’m gonna try it now.

@lolamarie244

4 жыл бұрын

@@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers did it work?

Having BIG problems to fill more than 2-3 mm, any idea why?? tried 2 diffrent brands of gas, and 4 diffrent cartridges..

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

3 жыл бұрын

You have to use the smaller tip and angle it a little bit.

What is 5 the 1 ratio? 5 being water one being permethrin? Or the other way!

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. 5 water. 1 permethrin

Do you use the pads wet, moist or dry?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

4 жыл бұрын

Moist is the way to go

Eek I bought permethrin. Will this work also?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Isn't the pyrethrin flammable

Do I have to purchase the same green one you have or does the one that stands upright work, I think it's called patio shield or something. Are the mechanisms inside the same, anyone? Thanks

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they all use the same butane canisters.

Omnivore, thanks for the info but just wondering how safe is it breath in the fumes from the Pyrethrin infused pad that the ThermaCell gives off once heated? I realize its plant based, but its still a chemical. How different is it from a ThermaCell pad?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

4 жыл бұрын

It’s close to the same exact thing as thermocell but I definitely don’t recommend breathing tons of either one. Both the original pads and the ones I make do irritate my lungs a bit.

@seabass22

4 жыл бұрын

I always leave mine in the window of my blind or above my head on the tree so the fumes don’t come to me. I definitely don’t wanna be breathing in toxic fumes lol.

@littlejackalo5326

6 ай бұрын

Same exact thing as the real pads.

Loved the background porn music.

I think thermacell pads use allethrin, not pyrethrin or permethrin. Does it matter?

@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers

5 жыл бұрын

They are very very similar

@tommyp7738

5 жыл бұрын

@@OmnivoresHomesteadAndQuivers would it be better to buy a 32 oz. bottle of Permethrin 10 for $24 than the 8 oz. bottle of Pyrethrin for $13 ? Is the permethrin just as effective as the pyrethrin ? Sounds like a better bang for the buck

@Bruttis100

4 жыл бұрын

If you use a Thermacell for bow hunting it does. The Allethrin doesn't smell half as bad as the Pyrethrin.

@kevinbakel4693

4 жыл бұрын

Both are Pyrethroids. Can't speak to the smell and its effect on hunting.

@kevinbakel4693

4 жыл бұрын

@@tommyp7738 Look at the active ingredients % which are listed on the package somewhere. I was trying to figure this out as well.

I am wondering about the ratio of 1 to 5. You've got a product that is 1% Pyrethrin, 10% Piperonyl Butoxide (which is just a synergist/adjuvant right?) so your 1 to 5 solution is going to result in a .166% active. I saw another video where the product used is Permethrin 10%, also with a suggested ratio of 1 to 5. This solution would have 10 times the active ingredient. I believe these two chemicals are closely related, but I am not a chemist. Both are Pyrethroids. I am not questioning the effectiveness of Permethrin vs Pyrethin, but I am questioning how to make a solution that will be effective in the thermacell. I live next to a pond and the mosquitos are AGGRESSIVE!!! Any input would be appreciated.

@seabass22

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Bakel did you do any experimentation? I just ordered exactly what is used in the video. Can’t find butane with the right tip or pyrethrin around here. Really didn’t need the pyrethrin, as I have a ton of the pads.

@kevinbakel4693

4 жыл бұрын

@@seabass22 I used the 1/10 suggested ratio. I'm not seeing the results of the thermacell that people get excited about. I have the units that can be placed on tables, not the units that are worn around the neck. I think that having them adjacent to skin would make a difference. If you've already got the store bought pads, no need to worry about the actives and proper ratios. I'm thinking about purchasing some Bifenthrin for my mosquito situation. I think applying this to my yard might have a much better effect than the thermacells. Hope this helps.

@kevinbakel4693

4 жыл бұрын

Also, I found the right tips that came with the butane on Amazon. It cost ~$18 for two of them, but I found a tip that allowed me to refill them. It's not perfect, but I can get it to work.

@justintime8095

4 жыл бұрын

REEF X mr all I do is use sand paper to sand the tip narrower. I buy what ever butane is the cheapest

@jamesdnye

4 жыл бұрын

@@seabass22 Awesome video! I used the brown tip if that helps. Worked out great

Thermacell are pieces of crap for making these the way they do. They could all be rechargeable batteries for the heat system and then they could all be the higher end capsules that you could easily fill with the liquid. Such pieces of crap creating a sales scheme and dependency system around it that also creates all this trash.