Not gonna lie that jump scare got me😂. Thanks for the video about the device.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahaaa... Then I succeed! 😀 /Matti

This is the best gas refill video I have seen thank you. Having watched a few I now feel safe to try. Shouting BANG! you got me! :D

That gizzmo in America is called GWorks Lindel valve, something I've been using from the get-go. Thanks to the valve, I always start out with a full 110gr of gas inside a small canister. BANG - I like your sense of humor. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

110gram!?!?! ...and never problem? Interesting!!! I'm maybe little bit to careful!? Hahaha... tha bang. 🤣 I didn't know if people would like that or not. 😀 Thanks anyway. /Matti

I have seen instructions elsewhere that say the 80% rule is for a completely empty canister, In other words the manufacturers only fill to 80% when new to allow for expansion should the canister be exposed to heat in transport or storeage. It is wise not to push the limit. Your rule of 80% of original fill should certainly be safe. Best wishes.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! If I understand you correctly... already 230gr gas in a full tube is 80% of what the canister can handle in a safe way!? /Matti

@genelucky4002

Жыл бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Yes, that is the way i understand it.

@genelucky4002

Жыл бұрын

to Clearify, the 230 g of gas is safe as a refill level Not safe to put more than 230 total into that canister.

Great idea, I must consider this. The idea to use the big one to fill smaller ones would be perfect

Hej Matti! We just binge-watched your and Stina's channel and as we saw this video, we thought we should try it ourselves. When we received our adapter, we followed your step-by-step instruction and succeeded! Great tip! ATB André & Julia (subscribers 🙂)

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Happy to hear you binge-watched our videos and that you succeeded with the gas refilling👍. /Stina & Matti

Definitely going to get one of these.

I've never tried it this way but I do fill my canisters from the Aerosol type can with a little gizmo again from Amazon. But I think I'll get one of these as I have a number of the larger oversized canisters that tbh never get used as they are far to big. And I also use the Jetboil Jatgauge

Great little video, did jump when you went . . ."BANG" ! . . .

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaa... Nice to hearing! 😀 /Matti

😂 you got me on the BOOM 😂

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Worked after putting into the freezer thanks

Hello Matti, thank you for your nice Videos! I really enjoy them! I never think about refilling my Gascanisters, but I will try it. Greetings from Germany, Christian.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I think you will save some money and also save some environment. 😀 Most of the gas we buy in Sweden is from South Korea... transpoted over the whole planet... Crazy... /Matti

Thanks for the video! Is the freezer/ warm water crucial?

Thank you very much for your kind comment guys :)It ended up in the spam filter though, and if I approve it, I will most likely not be able to find the comment.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your good content and take care over there... /Matti & Stina

Thanks, just ordered one👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I think you will be happy with this small useful thing. 😀 /Matti

Good humour. Refer to this video regularly

I always wanted to fill the smaler 100 or 110 canisters obviously to save money as the smaller canister are way more difficult to obtain in shops. so, delivery costs are also added to the purchase of smaler canisters making them so expensive and filling them is a desirable option just wish there was a safer way to do this, and less risk and work.

That exact same attachment works perfectly for me.

Wow! Didn't know it was possible!

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

🙂👍

You got me!! Boom!

You can refill the old cannisters to the weight they were made. They dont go Bang! The concave shape of the bottom of the can is so that should there be a rise in pressure inside it will Pop out! They are pretty Tuff 👍

I clicked on the link and there are several which one is the one you are using?

That was scary, thanks :D

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

🤣 /Matti

När jag fick betala lika mycket för en 100 gram tub som för en 230gram tub på en friluftsbutik började jag fylla mina egna, billigt och lätt plus att man blir av med alla skvättar.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Har du koll på hur.många gånger du har kunnat återfylla en tub? /Matti

I use quite hot water on the canister because that is the only way you can empty it completely, and that is what I bought this device for, emptying my half full canisters that I never take with me on a trip anyways. I don't think heating it is dangerous when there is very little gas in it, anyway it wont explode and burn without fire present so...

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I agree... and I'm happy to hear that you have done this also. 😀 /Matti

Great! Do the same. But not warming. Only cooling the recieving canister. And also have a careful look at the recieving one for even small damages!

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a good idea because when I put it VERY hot water there was some interesting sound from the gas in the hot canister... 😉 /Matti

@hera5709

Жыл бұрын

BTW, love your videos! Longing for Sunday morning!!!

Satte kaffet i halsen.. Smart pryl!

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaaa... då är jag nöjd!!! /Matti

I've been filling my bottles for 20+ years. I filled 47kg bottles of winter auto gas. It 70 30 mix. I decanted into 907 904 901 gaz bottles. A 100 gram of gas cost 1.5 pence uk. About 65 100g cans for a £1.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Interesting... Have you ever had a canister that have explode, start leaking or breaking down because you have refilled it? /Matti

@alanhunter2051

Жыл бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Matti I've never had one explode. I have had a few where the gas seal has not closed properly. Though it can happen with a new one. The threads are easy stripped with lots of extra refills. If you keep the 80% rule you will never go wrong.

Жыл бұрын

Where can I buy adapter to fill from a P11 bottle into a small outdoor gas bottle.

@bekanav

Жыл бұрын

@ Gases in heavy steel bottles have more propane, even 100%. It has much higher gas pressure than those gas mixes (butane, isobutane etc.) in light aluminium canisters. Positive side of high pressure propane is it works even in very cold. But if you refill a light canister with it it will explode when heated, for example if left in sunshine or possibly even in room temperature. So don't do it. Gases are not same and they need different containers.

@rusty6049

7 ай бұрын

​@@bekanavisn't this simply avoided by using butane instead. Large bottles of butane (pure) are widely available.

Its better to take the cap off the canister before putting in the freezer. Later can be difficult. I use butane canister to refill my 100g one. With different adaptor. Works well for summer, cheaper too.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

It's a good idea to take of the cap before it getsfrozen! /Matti

It’s admirable to be thirify , I do this type of transfer with propane. The two safety measures I use are to wear gloves so if there is a mishap I don’t freeze my fingers and I work in the middle of my yard away from buildings so should a problem occur nothing is damaged.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I agree with the idea of not doing this inside the house. I usually are out in our garage and totally outside is safer. ...but I have never heard someone who has an explosion. Have you heard anything? /Matti

I like doing this, it saves me having two dozen half full canisters.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

That's the biggest advantage!!! /Matti

Hej, Matti! Thank you for the great videos! This one insipres me to buy refill adapter, because it's a common traveller's problem: half-empty gas canisters, which refuses to burn in low temperatures outside. An once again, thanks for the safety instructions for refilling process. It was new information for me. But i have one interesting question: why not you using pressure lowering button on refill adapter? This button allows you not to warm up outgoing canister, and not to cool down incoming canister. I pressing this button 3 or 4 times during refill process of 230g canister and all canisters (full and empry) are the same temperatures. P.S. You need to insert disclamer at the beginning: "Please, finish drinking tea or coffe before viewing this video clip" 😀

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

9 ай бұрын

Does it exist this pressure lowering system for this kind of gas tube??? I have never heard about anything like that before. 😀 It sounds like a great idea! /Matti

@yanzhura

9 ай бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Yes, it exists :) I have the same gas tube "campingmoon" as yours. Pause your video at 06:22. There you can see round button. Connect two gas canisters to refill adapter and start refilling. When it stops pissing, turn off valve, then press this round button for a 5-7 seconds and you will hear that bottom canister is depressurising. Then you can open valve and continue refilling process. And if you examine refill adapter, you will notice a small hole wiсh titled "ventilation" on the one of refill adaptor's side. This hole releases pressure from "IN" gas canister while button pressed.

@Tastes_like_chicken_shit

7 ай бұрын

Yes you can vent the canister to cool it, but in that process you waste enough gas to heat a cup of water for tea.... Better to chill the canister in a freezer if you can.

Веселый товарищ, шутник!

I’ve done this a couple of times, still here.. although, it is advisable to do it outside or at least by an open window. Please take care of yourself at least untill I have the money to come to one of your tours! 🤭 Hehe, just kidding of course, stay great! 🙋‍♀️

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I think it's a good idea to make this work outside... 😉 Welcome to the North! /Matti

These canister stoves like Jet boil are...one expensive. Two, environmentally unsound. Third, bulky and requiring being able to find the canisters if you are out in the middle of no where. My MSR can burn gasoline if needed.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the environmental unsound. 😞 /Matti

Lite Professor Balthazar känsla där... men smart idé. Undrar om det funkar med typ en P6:a som källa... fast man kanske inte får göra sånt utan tillstånd? p.s. Hade Subtitles på för jag sitter på jobbet... Dom textar "nature guide and dog musher together with my partner Steve"... fick mig att skratta till lite.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Hahaaaa... Steve. 😀 Det är olika gasblandning i en p6a och i dessa engångs tuber. Olika gas = olika tryck. Här måste man ha koll på de olika sakerna så.det inte blir fel... Jag skulle inte gjort det. /Matti

Does anyone know why they have the 80% rule?

Hahaha!!! Don't try this at home😅 I gotta buy one of those🔥🔥 thank you Matti

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Living on the edge... 🤣 /Matti

6:44 damn i jumped out of my chair 🤣 screw you

You made me jump 🤣

Boom 💥 🤣🤣🤣

Coolt, måste skaffa!

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Du har en länk här nere. Det är en riktigt bra liten grunka. 😀 /Matti

Tidy

Incorrect. You save money by transferring butane and propane from their specialized tanks directly into the camp stove cannister. You can also pump up the propane percentage a bit to greatly enhance cold weather performance. I perform these transfers and I winter camp well below freezing and I enjoy huge money savings and much better cold weather performance.

👏👌🇳🇴

If you refill the same canister with the same canister. There is no danger at all.

Or you can just _zero your scale_ with an empty can and refill to 80 grams.

In a lot of countries doing this is illegal. In the USA it is a felony... you can spend up to 5 years in federal prison and/or up to a 500,000$ fine if you transport a refilled canister on a highway), you need to be licensed to refill gas canisters and the canisters have to be legal to fill. Plus it is very dangerous. Those adaptors don't have a pressure gauge or bleed valve, and it is possible to over pressurize them (even if you use a scale) causing them to rupture even explode. These canisters are not designed to be reused, and just because it had say 400g of isobutane in it the first time does not mean it can support any further fillings at that amount. The metal flexes each time it goes from full to empty and will cause an unknown amount of metal fatigue, and metal fatigue is largely invisible. Also the valve can leak, as it is not designed to be more than a handful of times. It is not a question of if a refilled canister will explode, but when it will. Heck even the unrefilled ones sometimes explode too. I detest gas canisters and refuse to use them, as they are causing massive problems. People illegally throw millions of them into the garbage in campsites and parks. They are super dangerous to garbage collectors and processors, as the canisters detonate when crushed, even is supposedly empty. They are clogging up national parks as people toss them into the bush; I find them all over the place in the wilderness. Plus few places recycle them (They get treated as hazardous waste and buried in barrels). California is planning on banning them outright due to all the problems they have had with them. So I use a Trangia alcohol stove, and in the winter I use a multi-fuel stove, which I can easily refuel. My lantern is either battery or UCO candle lantern.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

...seriously!?!? Prison? In Europe we always hear about US as the place of freedom. 😉 I agree... aluminium 'gets tired ' when you flex it... and also about all canisters all over the place. BUT... imagine if we had a refilling system. You buy a little bit better gastube (new system with tubes made for refulling) and then could refill it at a gas station. /Matti

@azclaimjumper

Жыл бұрын

I suspect you could find something wrong with a rotten egg. My transfer valve DOES HAVE a bleeder valve.

@pgpagaia

Жыл бұрын

I also have been using canister stoves less and less. I thill think they are the most convenient cook system, but I don't like the gas roar nor the canister themselves. My choice at the moment is the BCB firedragon fold stove plus hand sanitizer. But realistically, for longer hikes, carrying large amounts of alcohol doesn't make sense.

@ashmaybe9634

Жыл бұрын

You can buy a simple metal device that will safely pierce an empty canister and turn it into safe metal recycling. It looks a little like an old can opener. People need educating.

@waterfalls4540

11 ай бұрын

I am also a milk drinker

Makes no sense why you would refill an empty canister with a full canister of the same make. Why wouldn't you just buy a new canister?

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree... I think you missunderstand this video. I have 5 half empty canisters. Then I refill one with the other half empty once. 😀 The whole idea is to avoid 5 halfemty canisters. 😀 /Matti

@andrewvautour1795

Жыл бұрын

To add to JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA - Matti & Stina comment, the 110 gram canisters are much more expensive that say a 250 gram. The smaller 110 gram are for me, easier to pack and weigh less so I prefer using those. So I use a bigger bottle to refill the smaller one, it's just less costly than buying a small new bottle.