Hi Andy, I'm a bit late in checking out this video. Jan 2024. I am old school. I use a TEAC/TASCAM 80-8 through a Carvin 16 Track board. 1/2 inch tape. My studio will hold around 12 to 15 musicians comfortably here in the mountains of PA, USA. You remind me of me when I was your age... I'm 69 now. I have bands come in to play anolog or digital if they wish. Both going on at the same time, of course. Still, the anolog recordings always sound better to me. You young folks need to keep this up. Cheers!

@andypickeringmusic

6 ай бұрын

Hi Peter, sounds like you have a great setup! My studio holds just one so I have to hit the road for core tracking

Love the vibe. Sounds so much better than digitally recorded and mixed in the box. Great performance!

@andypickeringmusic

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Yes really enjoyed this one 😺

Excellent video. The "Edit" function allows you to dump tape off a reel. For example: You want to join audio at the one minute mark, with audio at the three minute mark. You'd cut the tape, spool off (Edit) the excess tape, then cut the tape again to join the tape again and make the splice. Or if you have old tape that you want to dump off of a reel, you could use Edit to do it.

Excellent work, thank you.

i've been looking for this!!! THANKS

Love it :)

Thanks for that nice Video. You do it very well with a lot of creativity and in the old style of Recording. Your bouncing technik is great. You save the heart of the sound and it impressed me how good it works. Real2real recording is good for producing cause you must decide every time if its sounds good and then go forward. Decisions are make the way to finish works better. No way back. Thats the mirical. Love, peace and harmony Bernward

Very cool dude! Recording on tape is a gooood time. I just sold my 246 and picked up a mint Tascam 388 in the original box! Sounds amazing. You guys got some great sounds. Being limited by 8 tracks really helps with creativity. Great job! 🤘🔥🔥🤘 The real beauty of tape is not staring into a computer screen all day.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

388?!niceee that must have been a mortgage haha

Sounds great! Love the process.. great tune.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Awesome! Your video popped up as a suggested video, and ended up enjoying the video! Purchased your EP, sounds great! Cheers!! Great job!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing thank you! Really appreciate it. Please check out some of my other vids on the channel if you liked this one. All the best! Andy

thanks for the video!

I love your music dude!

This is incredible.

@andypickeringmusic

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Hi Andy, great video and song. The whole process was amazing to watch. Kind regards. Paul.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate so much Paul thank you!

Классная работа ❤

Lovely video

"Tell me whyyyyy..." love your stuff bruv. Been binging on these videos for days x

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Allan!

Excellent. I've owned the Tascam 34B, Tascam 58, Tascam 3440, Tascam 244, Tascam 22, Tascam 122, Tascam 112, the Revox B77 and I still own the Tascam 122 MK11. Glad to see that analogue recordings are coming back. We warmly interact with these machines. Happy recording.

Awesome man! Vintage vibes on your music! Sweeeet

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Please check out some more.. Best, Andy

Great to see how you’re getting on with the Tascam 38 and your new song sounds really nice. Love the vocal effects.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Was a lot of fun

@matthewstollar2678

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic they are very smooth

Hey Andy. As always I love what you are doing. A great fun tune that is just swimming in mid 60s UK vibe! Great to see/hear you sticking to the tried and true 4-track techniques on an expanded palette - well done!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! I thought that you would like this tune. Also massive thanks for picking up the EP

@peterkiefel4324

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic you're welcome! I actually laughed out loud when I read the bandcamp download had the "super 60s panned mix" because I am currently exploring that mix technique for a tune I'm working on. I'm applying "the doors" first album mix approach which is nearly identical except the vox is dead center. Keeping the drums on a mono channel is key and I'm glad you resisted the temptation to record drums in stereo on 'a different age' and stuck to the 4-tracker handbook you wrote!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterkiefel4324 haha nice! Yes I copied the Rubber Soul panning choice. It'd probably be better with vocals down the middle to be fair. I ran that mix off just for fun :)

Wonderful tutorial. Great sound!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Kevin!

Love it!! nice work dudes!!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Loads more videos like this on the Channel :))

the recording process was so cool in this video,the end result was awesome!

@andypickeringmusic

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Robert much appreciated 😊

Dude well done! this was very cool and very Beatles-esque ! I have been chasing this technique and sound for some time. You did a really great job.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Just picked up a 38, looking for vids on how to use it - THIS is definitely the best one, thank you! Great sounding tune, great gear, great ideas thank you 🤗🤗🤗

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob! Good luck with yours!

Sounds great

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tamir!

Nice mate. Very Beatley. Must be awesome fun putting it together

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Might be my favourite production

Great beyond! Nice bounce technique and tape delay

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah so satisfying when it's all solid recorded down

Great Video. I have the Tascam 38 great tape recorder.

Nice bit of gear!!!!!!! This was something I wanted back in the 80’s……. Couldn’t afford that as a teenager so I got the Tascam Porta One 4 track

Informative

Well done. Nice to see your workflow on the 38. I've got a Tascam 58 but haven't used it for recording yet.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one! This video was amazing but epicly long to make! Wow 58s are beasts 👌

Great video! I still have my Tascam 34 deck and M30 mixer. At one time I had two m30’s but sold one and use the original m30 as a sidecar.

bravo.......

Fantastic!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roy! Loads of vids on the channel if you're interested in seeing more.. Best, Andy

@roy6090

2 жыл бұрын

​@@andypickeringmusic I certainly want to see more. May I ask, have you made any special technical preps with Technics 38? I read on forums it needs to be cleaned and calibrated for each recording session. Are those tape deck reliable? Tape sound coloration is very appealing, but at the same, sounds as a lot of hustle (maybe costs too to maintain it at it best?)

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@roy6090 you mean the Tascam 38? Assuming you do aha... No it's been professionally serviced which gives easily a couple of years of use. No faffing, it's a prosumer machine it's designed for more amateur/hobbyist use and I've had no issues!

@roy6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic Sure, Tascam! So you use that tape deck for all your recordings? Then you transfer it to the computer and then send to the mastering engineer?

Nice work! I didn’t think much of the song when I first heard it, but as you built it up it came to life in true sixties fashion :) Also, congrats on not accidentally destroying a track. That’s what I would have done :)

@andypickeringmusic

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!! Glad you appreciate the process :)

That was so fun to watch. And you're right. that vocal sound is ultra good. And I wish I would have had that organ on my version of she's about a mover by the Sir Douglas quintet.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kelly!

@parachuteman4

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic you're welcome my friend. Love watching this. Watching it again here over coffee. I'm loving the EP. It's well worth buying the download folks. support this guy!

@peterkiefel4324

2 жыл бұрын

@@parachuteman4 Hear hear!! Well worth getting the special deal via Bandcamp with the bonus tracks folks

@parachuteman4

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterkiefel4324 it certainly is. I purchased it as soon as I finished watching the episode. I love it. I dig "she led me down the garden path" and "burning doves" too. Listened to the super 60s mix last night. Also very cool.

❤That Dave Clark 5 sound

Great job! I just bought a 38 and this was a big boost of inspiration! Ps. I'm not sure if you are allowed to compliment on the comment section but here we are.

@andypickeringmusic

4 ай бұрын

Compliment away please, comments sections are usually reserved for negative people! Ha

Wow! What a groove, total 60s vibes. I really enjoyed your journey of building up this track, fantastic work. I think I would have placed the vocals ever so slightly higher in the mix, but that's just my personal preference, not trying to detract at all from what you've done which is really excellent. 👍🔥

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Really glad you dig the tune and production :))

Analog sounds cool would love to record my album there

Cool song, a mid 60s British feel. It shows a good use of judicious tack bouncing.

Geatulacje z Polski

@andypickeringmusic

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Love the organ part, so 60's psyche sounding! I really liked much better the pre-mix, just before the final, with full dynamics. I think maybe too much processing in the end, better to listen, use the ears to not "overdo" or clutter a great sound. I have been there, and just because I can, and have the equip to do more.... often less is more, far more. I enjoyed your video brother, a great little song, and a great job laying the tracks down.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Glad you like the vibe. Not sure what you mean by the comparison of how it sounded pre mix vs mix cause there's no processing on the mix. I mean it's mastered once it is a WAV file but that's all. Check out the finished master on the actual release it should be much better than my master. Thanks for watching!

8:35 think of it like a sampler with emphasis and deemphasis curves, all varispeed does is shift frequencies, certainly with mismatched transfers you can have differing frequencies, but this is all tascam! they did a great job, in terms of recording a performance, overall amazing

I love what you're doing!! I HATE PLUGINS!!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Me too. I love more real life stuff

Definitely the right way to go on tape! I have a good digital interface but my Tascam TSR-8 is the way to go for recording with minimum of hiss and nice tape saturation. Working as I do as a service centre for all makes of instruments (for over 35 years now), I can tell you that early digital sounds better as does modern tape.

@andypickeringmusic

9 ай бұрын

That's intresting! You mean like hard disk recorders?

@delatronics3257

9 ай бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic I have had HD recorders but they are not as good sounding as High Speed tape or old D to A conversion (PCM54, PCM56 or TDA1541 or better still TDA1540)

I had one of those in about 1984. It sounded better with the DBX noise reduction on it. It was quite good. Then I went on to a Studer 2” 16, then 24 track A80 machines. A different league completely. The sonic performance was another world. But I did do loads of tracks with the Tascam. Actually, I still have a Teac 3440 four track quarter inch machine.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

I have no doubt the studer was a different world! This tascam is prosumer and ideal for home studio setups.

Reslo ribbon mic. Wow!

Really enjoying the new EP! Also really digging your song “I just want to be somewhere high”! Possible new vid??? Haha have a great one!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Did you see the making of videos I made of it? Or do you mean music video!!

@MoneyCrespin

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic oh wow!! I didn’t know there was a making of vid for this song I’ll check it out! But now that you mention it a music video would be awesome!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@MoneyCrespin yes there are 2! One is the original version where I wrote it and one is a revamp when I had more ideas but no tracks left on the tape :)) Part 1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/l2p-o8-qiK3ed9Y.html Part 2 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWRnu9qJk73cirA.html

Recording sound great! I heard the opposite about the outside tracks. As in you want the bass or less high frequency instruments on the outer tracks as the outside of the tape is the most susceptible to damaged if not handled properly.

@andypickeringmusic

11 ай бұрын

Ahh intresting! It was actually a comment on one of my videos that led me to that and I did get the odd HF drop out on track 1

Ooh, 1/2". Fancy, shmancy. The more realistic upgrade was 8 track 1/4" back in the day. Yeah, we drooled over the 1/2", but that was significantly more expensive, even when bought used. I would've expected a bigger mixing console (desk) to go with that recorder. I started with an 8x4 with my 1/4" 8 track and upgraded to a 12x8 a year later. That was in the mid 90s when this stuff was still modern and therefore pricey.

@andypickeringmusic

11 ай бұрын

Lukily they are a lot cheaper today!

Anyone have experience with the Tascam 85 16-B ? I’m trying to determine what the tape hiss noise floor is usually like in those machines. (Is it pretty essential to use a Dolby noise reduction unit with it?)

sounds stupid good without a mix, think i’m gonna get into tape recording now, however i’m confused on the signal path between the tape machine and the monitoring and bouncing stuff down, how was all of it routed ?

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

It's all hooked up to a patch bay and the mixer, monitors just plugged into the monitor output on the desk

Thumbs up for Ashley Schaffer and the place he stores his Kia’s

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha I can feel it in my plums

Using the m30 can you overdub while hearing what was on the tape?

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Yes of course

This turned out great, but it's missing a Fairchild spanked on the drum bus & 2 bus. Or for a (not so) cheaper option a moded altec. There's a DIY version for us mere mortals available.

@andypickeringmusic

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I'd love to get one, but even the paupers version is out of my price range. The low end outboard I have does it's job I feel

What was the vocal mic for the overdub vocals? I've been living in a different age...

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

An Electrovoice re 10

Great video and track!! What’s the name of that Organ?

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's a Phillips Phillicorda from 1966

Dude could you do a video expounding on setting up your patch bay? I really need to sort that situation out but it’s pretty intimidating

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

At some point I could, but trying to keep the channel more music focused with brief technical information!

Sounds great! Can I ask you how you make the final mix digital? Do you have to use a DAW? Thanks.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Guy, Thanks! yes it's just a simple stereo output of the mixer into Daw.

@guyking1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic Thanks Andy! Is there any advantage to mixing it to a 1/4 inch two track before going digital (as in the past, right?)? And also, any way to go digital without a DAW?... I actually don't have a DAW... May I ask what DAW and which do you recommend being really only for this purpose of getting my analog recording to the digital format the best and simplest way possible? Thanks again!

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyking1well recording to 1/4 inch tape is just a sound I guess, some people like me call added noise and distortion on Tape pleasing 😂 You don't need a Daw to record, any software will do the trick. What is your computer? You'll at least need a sound card that accepts a mini jack

@guyking1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic Thanks again Andy. I have a Tascam 388 but also a Tascam 32 (2 track mastering machine). Would it be better to mastwr the 388 recording to the 32, or go directly to a computer? (I could try both and see wht works and sounds best...) I do have a digital interface but not sure what to record it to on the computer (an older Lenovo laptop T430).

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyking1 going down to the 32 tape as a final thing is just subjective really. If you've got an interface then just plug into it and record on literally any free software if that's all you want to do. Of course if you want to release the stuff you might want to master it once it's digital. Remember digital recording levels are different to analogue. You can't go above 0!

Very cool. What mixer are you using

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's a Tascam m30

You can do a lot on 8 track... Chicago's 1st album was recorded on 8 track-- Does Anybody Know What Time it is? Questions 67 & 68, Beginnings.

Might I just ask for a request if you can figure out a way to record the output while your recording so we can hear the dry and soloed tracks while recorded.

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Not really while I'm recording, I'm not a film maker... Its all just gorilla style shooting / editing on my phone all the way till you get the final mix (which is obviously the proper finished audio)

Hi mate.. How much would one of those cost in mint condition. My dad has one it's a tascam 38 8 like New

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

If you mean like new it has been recently serviced and has new or new ish rubber parts, probably 1000 dollars ish. (mine was 800 pounds in that condition)

I have a AkAi 4000D reel to reel recorder and I have Digital mixer by yamaha 10G10Xu also6i6 inerface can you help me Thanks

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hiya, sounds good, what do you need?

I wish I talked like that

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

What... English?! Haha

@claymckerlie296

2 жыл бұрын

My two favourite content creator's! Just mingling, shooting the breeze!

Sounds great!! it can record 4 track by 1/4 inch to tascam 38-8(1/2taperecorder)??

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm not sure what you mean by that?

@seiya_fukunishi

Жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic i just got 38-8 Today but I don’t have tape. I just want to try 1/4 for practice . Are you using 1/2tapes??

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@seiya_fukunishi ahh yes you cannot use any other tape. 1/2 or nothing. No tape machine can use different size tape. You wouldn't even fit a 1/4 inch reel on the hubs

@seiya_fukunishi

Жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic thank you for tell me. I got this! because 1/2 tapes is a double price for 1/4 tapes. But I will try it!

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@seiya_fukunishi I hope the machine is in good working order!

Did you dampen the snare on this track?

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what Joe did with his drums to be honest you'd have to ask him!

did you do drums n axcoustic same time?

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, just wasn't possible to get us in the same shot

@maxbley3539

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypickeringmusic how did you get it not to bleed in to each other?

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxbley3539 the re 10 mic has excellent rejection however it did bleed, I don't mind it really, when the acoustic is panned it gives the drums some roomy width

i've got a fostex e16, can't recommend it enough for your needs, hearing your productions i'd love to hear what you'd do with 16!!!

@searchiemusic

9 ай бұрын

3:29 basically edit pulls equal tension between both reels so you can scrub manually by rotating them, with some other machines there's a jog wheel, but it's for aligning tapes so you can cut them with an editing block to align two different takes

@searchiemusic

9 ай бұрын

also nice warm audio pre's! i'm making a somewhat diy version, how do you like them?

@searchiemusic

9 ай бұрын

4:30 in the best way possible this is so janky and i love it, this is exactly how john lennon would have looked at george martin after every take lmao

@andypickeringmusic

8 ай бұрын

Yeah 16 would be sweet!

hi my mate has a tascam 388 i now understand now hard it is to use a small mixer deck i have a MX 8000 i was very lucky £125 i payed space is the thing mate has a model like your mixer alot around i was very lucky i fix up audio gear time to time i have played with 2 inch decks wow they sound good soundcraft 760 24 track uk deck if any body you know let's you master using one make you band sound ace

Man, this sounds right out of 1965. The Kinks, The Who etc. You really nailed it.

@andypickeringmusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes that was definitely the intent. Glad you like it :))

I dont get why you sped up the drum track onto the 38

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Just a varispeed technique which will slightly alter the timbre of the tone when slowed back down to the regular speed

hi just beware if you are very un lucky you can get a money pit i have alot of tascam 30 line i is a money pit i am a tec and this one out of all the reel to reel i have has been a right pain never ever leave any with out power on this deck on left of for 10-15 year turning on it killed the main pcb i can fix it one of 9 tascam i have so beware when buying used decks may work all right for 30min like this deck did rest was ok need main pcb for a tascam 38 export model why i am not pleased

@andypickeringmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry this is fully serviced and working great. Sure it's 38 years old it'll die at some point