Smash or pass? Is this as big a deal as I think it is?

@JappyJan

Жыл бұрын

Smash for the general idea, pass since the sensor is still not protected at all which means in a crash the camera is dead anyway and getting a sensor alone is still expensive… Also I will need to buy one camera per quad because I cannot move it from quad to quad. Would be way more awesome if the whole GoPro construction would be a standalone module (like a naked GoPro, but flat like in the xDrei)

@baggszilla

Жыл бұрын

This thing is UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

@maximillionthermidorfirefl4103

Жыл бұрын

smashing fa sho! (gotta get your own rubbers tho, not sharing 🤣)

@tommelbomm

Жыл бұрын

I just need this to film my friends on their mountainbikes

@sakfpv8444

Жыл бұрын

Big time smash...and leave it in

Thanks again Joshua for having us :) was super nice to do meet you and have a little chat about our company and stuff. To be honest i was ready to get at least a little roasted in your video but you seemed to rly enjoy flying it :)

An impressive drone to meet the problems of filming people close in. Another advantage of the weight in the UK and EU if I have it right you can legally fly over people which in terms of events is a big bonus in terms of insurance and legal paperwork.

@danthedroneman5771

Жыл бұрын

"People" yes, "crowds" no. The footage of the quad over crowds next to the biker was definitely edging onto the "crowd" side of things and wouldn't be legal in the UK.

Astonishing how synonymous GoPro still is to FPV, yet how little GoPro actually cares about the community.

@cedricgrandseigne

Жыл бұрын

Why would they care about 10000 people, when they sell millions?

@user-yk1cw8im4h

Жыл бұрын

agree with above, not sure how it’s astonishing

@dinoscheidt

Жыл бұрын

GoPro pretty much doesn’t care about anything anymore. If you can’t capture the first 1000 people, you can’t capture the next 1 Mio. All they do nowadays is rely on supply chain distribution. Simply being available in every Best Buy. But companies like insta360 seem to care for the first 1000 people and when they show up in Best Buy’s, GoPro will act surprised and have a big issue. Classic dying cash cow behavior

@rp479

Жыл бұрын

They made the hero bones 10 and mini 11 almost exclusively for fpv. Wtf are you guys talking about.

@cedricgrandseigne

Жыл бұрын

@@rp479 does it really answer fpv needs?

Well done! I was thinking about that problem, event thought about putting the mainboard in a frame but I doubt my solution would have been this elegant. Very nicely done 🎉

Absolute smash. I've wondered why this hasn't been a thing since I saw the first naked GoPro.... Glad this has finally been put forward to the community!

I had this idea such a long time ago. Never had the resources to make it. So happy that somebody finally made it!!

I think that’s brilliant! I’m not a fan of anything in a pusher configuration though. If everything else is equal they are still just way too loud. I have an aos Cine25 that I cut the prop guards off, inverted the motors to a normal position and it is half as loud as it was, flies better freestyle, and is currently my favorite quad to fly. Super stealthy and I can rip it around all day long without pissing off the neighbors. It’s a win for everyone. Great vid, JB. I’m going to look into this kit! 🔥

Oh man, I just bought one. This the evolution for me. Been flying naked GoPro's and vistas for awhile. This is the next step haha

This as a pretty cool take on getting everything packed into a light weight setup! I think we are going to see sooooo much effort made toward things like this over the course of this year, and this one is pretty interesting. Only thing that makes me flinch a little is that ribbon cable crossing from the bottom of the top plate and up onto the sensor/lens assembly. I could totally see myself hitting something, knocking that cam back in the slide mount, and ripping it (if I am lucky) in two, lol. My luck though, I would totally shred it, lose the camera, and short the board on the carbon edges.

@KOrnhOliO1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! In my comment here, I guess the durability of this naked GoPro system as a 2 - 5 out of 10. Sure, most professionals say the image quality of the GoPro is better than the 03 air unit. I've seen video with 03 better in some scenes, and GoPro better in others...in the same flight. 03 has to be a durability of 5 - 9 compared to the naked GoPro. We have long term experience with air units being robust as hell! Pro video pilots can see the comparison of 03 vs. GoPro, BUT! ... The customer doesn't get to see comparison videos side by side of the same scene. I think they'll be happy as a lark with the 03 image quality. 03 seems like it's so much easier to build with, so much cheaper (no Vista and GoPro), and durability is no comparison! Co0ol build though!!! :)

I freaking love it and need one . Great idea and this will change the action sports way of live feed

sweet. i dig it. Good job on that build

That quad looks amazing

Looks like it flys pretty good and pretty stable . Have a blessed one .

Great report!

Props on, powered up, in your hands, in the house. What an absolute madman. Love to see it. ftl

Loving it:) Did some jobs recently where my whoop's noise really was an issue. Also recently chased karts on a track and really had trouble keeping up with a 30 inch whoop. Not sure if I would dare flying without guards in some jobs but also good to have a faster, better flying an quieter quad in the bag. However........it does mean having to pay for another gopro instead of mounting one gopro on different quads.

I think the agility and the safety aspect would be the selling points here. The difference in agility was obvious from the get-go and your missed drops proved the point. Impressive setup from RedKyte!

Love it amazing concept and design

Absolutely genius and the naked go pro is protected!!!

Just wanted so say (as a German) it’s the „DREI“ is the German word for 3 and is pronounced like „dry“ 👌🏽

@JoshuaBardwell

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.... I figured that out after I recorded the video.

Your timing couldn't be better. I am looking to get into FPV and have been learning the sim while I debate what kind of quad I want o build. Well... recently decided I am leaning towards 3". This video just sealed the deal. Love the broken out goPro! Cool idea, RedKyte and thanks for another great video Joshua!

@chrisbee5481

Жыл бұрын

I can really recommend 3.5 inch. Much better.

@gorgebmw

Жыл бұрын

Build a four inch. They are the perfect mix of nimble/durable/performance/versatility. They can do a little bit of everything and are just small enough to get away with stuff you couldnt do with a five inch.

@bugsy742

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbee5481 agreed 🤝 as do most interestingly 👍🤝

@IDriveAnAudi

Жыл бұрын

For a first build I would go with something more straightforward. If you try it though, best of luck!

@thisguyeddiex7136

Жыл бұрын

One guy recommended 3.5 inch, next guy recommended 4inch and I’ll be the guy that recommends 5inch

i found my mouth literally hanging open in disbelief during that initial description man it looks great!

That is awesome. Great video.

By all means...just cause u thinks its Cool. Excellent review. Such a help on regards to *It comes down to what why and how your bird roots your content into ones own fingerprints/flyprints! Thanks JB...hope to meet ya someday

My chase bird is a 3"X-knight using only the caddx and no gopro. The RedKyte is a similar bird. Of course my vid quality is not as good. I still believe in having one camera only and recording on board. The comparison in this video is not apples to apples. This amazing quad does not have prop guards. Prop guards is what makes the flying awful but it's safe when you're up close into your subject, crowd or foliage. A Caddx-Gopro fusion into one lens mounted on a sub 250 screamer that has small prop guards is the ultimate chase setup. This is the bird I'll drop cash for next. . . thx for the vid Joshua!

Great quad 👍✌️👌

I was just getting ready to pull apart a GoPro.... and then you show us this! Seems like this is obviously gonna stick. I'm still looking for prop guards but I'm sold on the CG alone.

really cool. already bought a cinewhoop as a first drone. looks like a cool stacked modular drone.

Hey Jb looks like a pretty cool build i like it

Very cool concept

I'm glad I watched this video. I just built my first drone it's a Gep RC CineLog 30... mine has a heavier VTX with DVR and the 650mah battery and it comes in at 249g... well I've been flying for a week and I started doing some acrobatics Loops & rolls and I noticed it doesn't like pulling out of Dives at all... I guess it's time to build the 5-inch freestyle😂..

That thing looks sick

Omg! This is the cutest thing!

That's a cool idea and implementation! I'll build one for myself after the war.

Vintage Maxell "Blown Away" Cassette Tape poster on their wall, you can't get more real than that. I had that poster 'back in the day' so I'm vintage myself...

I know Knoxville mountain bike people if you ever want connection to try chasing. Chasing mountain bikers is basically my only goal in this hobby, but I haven't progressed very far. This is an interesting concept!

This is pretty cool! Even if you made a 3.5 or 4 inch version of this just for a bit more power or efficiency. Heck this could be useful, even on a 5 inch frame. Lighter is always better.

That's a dream build!!!

Great review Joshua!! I would definitely smash it and I just checked the web site and they are all sold out!! Shows how good your reviews are!!

Nice improvment!

amazing review! it would be great if you could include 60fpv video when you fly.

This would be cool for tight spaces or technical tracks but seems like it would leave you wanting more if it was an open track. 5” still feels like the best option for that imo

Interesting thing. It has its pros and cons. As for cinebot it definitely needs to work with. Props in may help a lot for the begining.

Cool drone ❤❤❤

Awesome drone and quality, build 2

Fun video!

I’m pretty new to this flying thing but this makes so much sense. If I we GoPro I would sell a raw version to this world of Fpv!!

Same as the naked pocket 4k or 6k setups. It makes a lot of sense to streamline the size and shape as opposed to a giant sail of the front

@ugpfpv361

Жыл бұрын

Look at the umma95

Redkyte are doing pretty cool stuff. I also love their Insta360 drone build, the drone is so flat it disappears in the cams Blind spot. Would love to play with that raw footage.

Love it.

To get the GoPro main board laying down to reduce drag is a great idea 💡 Fired FPV did that some time ago... The rest of the concept I'm not sure... If I fly close to unprotected people I need propguards... If the people have helmets on I fly 5 or 7 inch. So what is the use case?

I’ve actually returned completely decased gopro guts to both best buy and gopro, neither gave me any hassle for it at all, but your mileage may vary :P

nice, I need one

This is an awesome unicorn of a quad ....and I call it a unicorn because I have never seen this type of build and imo it totally kills cinewhoops....well the cinebot 30 at least lol....👍🏼

So how did they actually make it quieter? This was great to see, thank you.

We've full circle back to hero 6 mount that tommy released, was always the best option

Priceless walk.

I can't wait for a full 5" freestyle frame to host a naked gopro with serious protection for the board and camera. I am thinking if we manage to soft mount the board, it will kill the vibrations on the gyro (for reelsteady) and make it crash resilient as the grommets will absorb shocks. The weight saved would be insane !

Awesome!

That’s pretty wicked but I don’t feel the need for it, for my purposes my Runcam thumb and thumb pro get the job done, I am excited that they’re still working to make hd cameras in smaller and lighter packages

I pulled my GoPro down to do this on a much less sophisticated level - would buy this for sure

This but on a 4" ultralight LR (or freestyle like the shocker) would be an interesting thing to have.

@kingjam6433

Жыл бұрын

Ditto, was thinking about how great this kind of setup would be on my Apex 4"

Sauber Männers 🤘🏼🔥❤️

A split GoPro like that would be great for fixed wingers as well, we are at least as worried about excessive drag as multirotor pilots are. Why do all naked GoPros insist on presenting the maximum amount of surface area to the wind? Thanks for bringing that drone to our attention; strapping the whole craft to a Mini Crosswind would probably be preferable to a regular action camera ...

I’d love to have something like this to mount in a 5 inch. I won’t buy anything heavier than a GoPro 8 and this would be awesome to mount onto a top plate.

👍 Awesome!!! A really thought out purpose build filling a gap in the market filming quad a well flying quiet cinewhoop :) is it fast enough to film dirtbikes?

how do you go about sourcing parts like for the the mount for the gopro camera lens - I like that idea.

Is the ribbon cable from the sensor to the mainboard something they are building or reusing the original from GoPro? Selling the cable to extend the lens off the gopro would be the real game changer across the board. I've been waiting and hoping for some time for someone to offer a cable to be able to mount the mainboard away from the lens especially for some fixed wing planes.

@marlin-fpv

Жыл бұрын

The cable is a custom build.

@ChilkoNZ

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I'd love to buy this as well

@themixeurgaming5201

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree. I'ver been trying to do this type of build for a long time and the ribon cable is the only reason this thing works. The rest is pretty standard stuff.

@janmzb

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly it is the original cable attached on a 90° adapter to fit the mainboard. I build one last year, so I'm not 100% sure about it.

When comparing with the cinelog30, was there a gopro naked on the cinelog30 or a fullsize gopro? Thanks!

Holy creator I need it

So mounting of the AIO is SQUARED like the mounting points are 25x25 in the same orientation as the 20x20 or 30x30. I don't see the aio mounted in the "diamond" format... but then is there an adapter tpu to then mount the naked 20x20 vista?

I suggest looking at jacuzzi jays video on the luma 30 you will be amazed at how well a Australian made cinewoop will fly it puts both these quads under pressure

OOOOOh so thats why they call it the bardwells yard, new to the channel

@JoshuaBardwell

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

I wanna one of it 🚀

I have one of those GEPRC CineBot 30 and it flies exactly how you have shown. Anyway to tune it out? Mine also broke the GoPro plate without a GoPro on it. Starting to feel like a bad buy

I slapped my GoPro hero 7 on my Darwin FPV baby ape with a power cable so I dont have to carry the gopro battery, it sit right at 245gram and I get around 6min of flight time on a 750 3S. Mind you I dont got the DJI system on it. The flight footage looks remarkable similar to my footage, although I can definitely tell the CG sits lower then on my derp setup. I like this idea but I got the feeling they could have made a 4inch under the 250gram with that setup and get some better flight characteristics.

Only been rocking a drone like this for the past 3 years for my events in Canada 😂

does the stabilization system still works with the board on a different orientation as the lens?

Joshua, the sweet new quad didn't have on board audio but that's ok cause i heard great reference and sync from the flight video and the audio from your mic yet flight 2 you used on board audio so there was basically nothing to reference them on ... if flight 2 had only mic audio there's your ab comparison because you instinctively fly the same path 9/10 times. Thankyou

Also can the runcam pheonix 2 joshua barwell edition be used with a caddx vista or link ?

I can tell you being retired wakeboarder/skateboarder the noise level is huge. I can remember taking shots for skateboarder mag. Back in the day(the dog town days) just the shutter on a fast camera would mess you up. I'm sure that cinewoop would be horrible for the athlete. That's a game changer!!!

Really want to see a 5” freestyle frame maybe with a more protected sensor integrated like that. Always wanted a super light basher with the programability and switch customization of a naked gopro.

Is the Gyro in the camera unit? Or is there no EIS involved? Or is this applied in post with reorienting the gyro data? Very interesting!

Can Realsteady still be used with the gyro no longer being on the same plane as the sensor? I'm assuming you will need to use Gyroflow and set the camera angle in the settings to get it to work properly?

@sndr404

Жыл бұрын

No struggle at all since the Gyro is located with the lens, not mainboard

Nice concept. Does the way of mounting the Gopro board kill the option to use the inbuilt image stabilizer or Gyroflow? - I guess the accel sensor is on the mainboard.

@cherryFPV

Жыл бұрын

The gyro is on the Lens, so you can mount it in whatever direction you want, gyroflow would always work. That's really neat!

You should have used the Avata 3.5 Axis upgrade.. WOW what an upgrade.. Mikey

Very interesting concept, My only concern would be any ingress of dirt, mud debris and heavy moisture/humidity. As this frame looks very anti water-proof-able.

Really neat quad and I'd love to fly one. The footage from it had too much blur imo. I've been flying the Cinebot30 (6S O3) since December and it flies WAY better than the one you were flying. I hover at around quarter throttle and it is not too terribly far off from my Aura 3.5 in terms of rip-ability but it certainly doesn't "love" it.

@BimmerDan

Жыл бұрын

How does that cinebot handle acro? Been thinking about grabbing one

@dreamingorca

Жыл бұрын

@@BimmerDan I've got one as well (O3) and is fairly nippy but does NOT handle rapid yaw spins very well.

@Frygon

Жыл бұрын

The blur comes from the ND filter and correct cinematic settings. You could just not use the filters, set GoPro to auto and get the sharp and stuttering GoPro look you’re after.

@monolith2001

Жыл бұрын

@@BimmerDan It is probably one of the the most athletic BnF cinewhoops out there and it will do tricks but if you are looking for a freestyle quad, there are better options for the same or less money.

@johnnywong83

Жыл бұрын

I have a CineBot30 (6S O3) as well and it flies like what JB have demonstrated. Lots of propwash. I flown it with the 6S Speed Pizza 1200mah. My gopro top plate came right off as well (with no gopro attached). I have been trying to tune out the propwash but getting no wear.. I also have a backward drift in Angle

In other news, i now know that yaw washout isn't just me and me cine. Jeez - saw that and got that instant "yep" feeling.

can you buy the go pro plate separate thats amazing ,,,,

I would still be concerned about working around people with this 3" RedKyte. Lightweight, Less noise for sure and maneuverability is truly welcome but those prop guards are peace of mind when working in close around clients.

@Les_Grossman

Жыл бұрын

They are pro athletes and can take a beating 😂

@josiahmos5880

Жыл бұрын

You can just buy cheap prop-guards and put them on the quad weighing approximately 25g to make it safer around people. You can also put on slightly larger motors if you want.

@NomadSoul76

Жыл бұрын

@@josiahmos5880 I don't trust those prop guards to work at the speeds this thing is supposed to be flying at. They are more for helping a drone that's basically hovering bounce off of objects.

It's a pretty interesting idea indeed, but it's not the first. I've seen people doing similar stuff years ago... Either way, the issue is to use the same GoPro in more than one quad... Which you just can't. Anyway, thanks, Joshua! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@dod.fpv_

Жыл бұрын

You will be able to do exactly that. 2.5inch version is coming very soon :)

@MCsCreations

Жыл бұрын

@@dod.fpv_ Oh, sweet! Then things get much better! 😃

they should put some conformal coating on those gopro electronics

Hi bro your vídeos are great!! What about flyhoo venon H20?... IS a good drone?...

Wonder how it stacks up to a naked O3 3’‘ build. In good lighting conditions you might be able to skip the GoPro and record directly from the O3, saving even more weight.

I prefer the GoPro naked since I can just pass it from my apex 3" to my QAV 2.5", or to any drone I´d like. It´s a very cool idea though. Also the new GoPro naked Flywoo case allows you to keep the aluminunm sheet and it can take a beating for sure. I dropped my gopro naked like 50m the other day cause I lost a prop and I was surprised that the GoPro naked survived. I liked the concept, but its not for me I cant afford having a GoPro for every drone.

Hi joshua, u are great as always. One question: why does the naked gopro footage look so blurry? is it a settings problem?

@JoshuaBardwell

Жыл бұрын

It has an ND filter on it which was a little too dark.

Cool but needs prop guards if buzzing people, then how does it handle crashes. Aside from that pretty sweet

I feel like storing the mainboard in the quad isn't necessarily new, I mean Ummagawd had really similar designs years back around 2020. Sure, it wasn't a regular 3 inch, but taking the ducts off wouldn't have been tough.

@JoshuaBardwell

Жыл бұрын

The Redkyte guys explicitly credit Umma for the idea. But the 85mm form factor didn't cut it for their purposes.