RED KOMODO | Long Term Review
RED KOMODO review! I've had this camera for a year and some change, so I thought it was a good time to share my thoughts on it :) Special thanks for @lastoriaproductions for giving me permission to use some of the footage I captured for them as a cam op on a couple of projects (SUP/two females hiking & Skiing footage).
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#isthatared #redkomodo
00:00 Intro
00:42 Global Shutter
01:44 REDCODE RAW
03:22 Image & Colors
05:59 Dynamic Range
06:58 Form Factor
07:57 Camera Control
09:06 Improvements over DSCM2 Cameras
10:57 Touch Screen
11:32 Autofocus
12:38 Record Button Location
13:11 Cables
14:04 Framerates & SDI?
15:45 Outro
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Is that a red?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
#isthatared
Dude all your footage looks sooo good. You've got the eye and most importantly the feel for how to get quality shots! Great review.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks fam. Means a lot coming from you!
Thanks for the review Tyler. I love seeing what you create with your Komodos!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh! Always appreciate you dropping by!
This was an AWESOME break down! There's plenty that I *should* comment on, but one that I want to make sure to give you praise on is your style and presentation Thanks for taking the time, and this might be my next step when I go for something bigger! Thanks man
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! A lot goes into these videos so it’s always nice to hear this feedback 🙏
Awesome footage, the hiking and skiing scenes especially were so beautiful!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
🙏 thank you!
legit video & tone. All the humble information I needed to decide to purchase. Subbed.
I always think it's super interesting how one camera can have so many different looks across users and their styles. A great camera for sure. Congrats on picking up a second one.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! The R3D codec certainly doesn't hurt when trying to achieve different looks. Thanks for dropping by :)
awesome review! It's crazy how dscm2 is finally ending new production starting this year. Still too soon, but I am looking forward to to see how the Red Komodo evolves in a V2 version in the coming years.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
No doubt! A komodo xl would be sweet
Great real world review. Thanks Tyler!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
Great review man! Footage looks great and loved the Ronin tactical clips!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great video mate! My boss and I primarily use the entire armada of blackmagic cameras, but he bought a komodo this time last year. At first we both absolutely detested it, but 12 months later and we're both absolutely loving it. This camera, while being a piece of shit at times (touch screen, unsupported battery issues etc), creates an incredible image. You're bang on about the motion out of the camera too. Just did a 2 day shoot for a gym and we found ourselves fighting over who would be using the komodo. The poor ursa was sidelined 🤣
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Haha poor ursa!
Great footage!!!! You're rocking with this camera.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Really love the work you show as well!
@joenicklo
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards appreciate it. Hopefully we get to collab one of these days!
HELL YES. I am working on may review right now too
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching it! 🙌
great review! that Komodo is a special one
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
You’re more special
There is a misconception I hear around a lot that older Film cameras don't have rolling shutter. They are mechanical and have a rotating wheel. So it gives a very similar rolling shutter effect but with a different pattern shape. It's more of a radial delay. Great review!!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Very true. Apart from Alexa and V-Raptor’s readout speeds, the GS of the Komodo exposing the entire frame at once is the closest (at this price point) to film capture being that it closer resembles image exposing process of the mechanical/rotary shutter than a rolling shutter would on a modern CMOS sensor like on a mirrorless camera. Certainly not the same but for a passing comment, it gets the point across(ish). Haha. Thanks for dropping by and commenting!
@Cinnovations
Жыл бұрын
I think the best way to compare would be at a long focal length to accentuate the jello. The only time I could recall it being annoying was when I was shooting macro on an x-t3 a few years ago. Even with stabilization it was very unpleasant.
@contentm3893
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I'm not buying that. older film cameras don't have characteristics of rolling shutter. Feel free to post samples.
@Cinnovations
Жыл бұрын
@@contentm3893 they do have the characteristics of a rotating shutter and it looks similar to good rolling shutter performance. I literally just saw it in a movie less than an hour ago.
@CinemaEngineer
Жыл бұрын
@@contentm3893 also film cameras were almost always used by people who know what they are doing. Your grandpas old Super 8 footage looks so bad you wouldn't even be able to tell if it had the characteristics of a rotating shutter.
Heck yeah mate, beautiful work. Amazing what we can get in the sub 10k market nowadays!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
🙏Legend! Thanks for dropping by. Still need to do that KOMODO/FX6 video!
@JoshBenBernales
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards dude I know 😅
Good insights.. I really need to pick one up and test that rolling shutter. Because I film fast paced sports all the time and never once have I felt the mechanical shutter was bothering me. Good review
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Ya if it hasn’t been a problem for you, then global shutter may not be necessary for your work
I love your reviews Tyler. We should collab this spring to show off how easy it easy to work with Komodo over resolve collaboration features.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Dude YES!! I was actually thinking of that with the frame.io features in the beta firmware. Let’s do this! 🤘
Great review mate!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! So stoked that you dropped by! 🙏
@OfTwoLands
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards No worries mate, love your videos and this camera has always interested me as well ☺️
Looking into buying the Komodo. This was very informative. Thank you for sharing
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Tyler, happy to see that you're also in the komodo family :) Regarding AF do you feel it works better with RF Lenses instead of the Sigma 18-35?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
In real world applications, not really except that the AF motor is silent. The AF might be a bit faster and snappier but Komodo AF in general has a long way to go to be trusted on a project like you can with Sony or canon.
Ill love to see your work flow on the Komodo
Motion cadence breakdown for the top choices in 2023 would be a dope video. Specially from the XH2.
great video!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
The more I watch experiential based reviews like this the more I have my sites set on getting one in the future. I originally wanted one for the global shutter, as well as RF lens integration as I shot on canon. However I have since switced to Fujifilm, with an X-H2s and I really like 6k footage. I feel that the red could be used in conjuntion with such a camera, if needed and lenses could be adapted well without any or just minor aspect/focal length changes. And with Davinci the shots from the R3D RAW could be easily matched with ProRes RAW or even ProRes HQ out of the X-H2s. . Thanks for sharing the real world experiences and some of the short comings! Still I think a small price to pay for the price point of a Komodo.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
I’d definitely be curious how those cams look together. Fuji colors are so nice!
@Cinnovations
Жыл бұрын
They're two of the most similar cameras right now IMO. If I wanted a B cam thats not Red, I'd go for the XH2s or maybe a pocket 6k. But I'm telling you right now, even in ProRes, the XH2s performs as good as the komodo and p6k. Check out CineD's test, it's amazing how far Fuji has come. IQ is top notch in the sub $10k market. I have an XT3 and love fuji, and this took me by surprise.
Solid as always, You made me want to run out and buy a Komodo.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Def get a Komodo! If not then a t2i for sure
I recognize ronin tactics! nice how did you get to work with him?
Good review man 😉 thx
Yeah with my short time with it, I didn’t like the touch screen very much. Clunky.. but the biggest upside is the footage and flexibility of the red raw. Footage is beautiful. Was the footage you’ve shown mostly on the sigma 18-35?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
It was kind of an even mixture of Sigma 24-70 art, 18-35, 70-200 ef f4 and laowa Nanomorph.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tyler! Having owned both, how do you weigh the Ursa G2 vs the Komodo? What pushed you to do the switch and is there anything about the G2 that you miss?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Global shutter and size were two major drivers initially since I travel quite a bit. I do miss internal NDs, XLR and higher frame rates. They are both great cameras but wouldn’t go back to the G2 since it is end of life.
The new ink though!!!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Lots of hours into that hahaha 🐍 🌺
im halfway through the video, so you may cover this, but now that you've used that camera for this long, could you see it being used as a travel camera for a solo-operator? in more of a run and gun doc situation abroad? I got an fx3 for that reason but something keeps drawing me to the ergonomics and footage of the Komodo, thanks Tyler
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
It can certainly be used for that as long as you are comfortable not relying on AF (unless they improve it) and can manage the larger file sizes from redcode raw. The Fx3 or maybe C70 is still probably a better travel work, but the KOMODO is still a fantastic option for that as well.
man Ive been wanting to buy a red komodo but Im holding out for the next generation of the C70. My friend has a Komodo and LOOOOVVVES IT!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
C70 is a great camera too!
hey Tyler, nice review, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Lots of beautiful footage too! I wanted to ask you about your run and gun experience with mostly manual focus. These shots of tactical team looked very nice, I wonder if you just learn to live with worse hit/miss ratio or with practice its possible for solo shooter to pull focus good enough for most dynamic situations. I shoot extreme sports and most of my shots are not planned or rehearsed in any way, and I've spent my whole life on sony cameras where autofocus is so good I'm using it 95% of the time, so despite being really drawn to the flexibility in post and that incredible motion cadence of global shutter I'm just worried that I'd simply miss a lot of shots And small bonus question - weren't you tempted to swap A7sIII for R5 to utilise same lenses?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
I just simply learned to never miss focus. Simple. LOL JUST KIDDING. For fast-paced stuff, getting critical focus can be tough, and I almost never have the lens wide open for that reason. Practicing manual focus on Sony can be hard (with native lenses) because it is focus by wire, but if you have access to a manual focus lens, just start practicing is my best advice. Sony and Canon have amazing AF, and if you are used to that, the KOMODO will definitely be a step backwards for you in terms of AF. I see a lot of people purchase a komodo because it is a RED and it is priced more affordably than other REDs, but they end up selling it because it just doesn't fit their workflow. Rent it first to see if you like it or not. Bonus answer - I actually own an R5 as well that I use primarily for stills. Both cameras do great, but I prefer the Slog3 gamma from the Sony for video.
@majcyy
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards thanks for taking the time to give such detailed answer, legend! that was my guess too that slog > clog
Your color grading is great
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FamJammers
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards You're most welcome
Do you find that it's ok for handheld without stabilization? Also, this is a really incredible video - thank you! It's perfect and very helpful. I'm thinking of upgrading to the komodo for a documentary.
@TylerEdwards
3 ай бұрын
Yes, it is ok for handheld
Was that Ronin on the tactical part? If so that's so cool you got to work with him. Really nice looking footage. Love the look of the Komodo. I don't work in camera department usually (G&E gang), but from what I see it's really becoming a B or C cam staple of a lot of different productions. I did operate it a few months ago on a chase vehicle. It was mounted on a russian arm and in that case the global shutter really seemed to help. Also shot a couple projects with the v raptor, and the komodo seems to match that really well which is a plus.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
G&E gang! Yup, I work with Rōnin Tactics quite a bit. For smaller companies/owner ops, the Komodo has become a popular A-cam but on larger productions, like you said, it is becoming the go-to b or c cam for many projects since it can cut so well with many different cameras and has that global shutter. Thanks for dropping by!
@monkeymang13
Жыл бұрын
Was going to ask the same thing!!
@cfl4286
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards Thats so cool, man. Congrats on that. Ronin is like the MJ or Tom Brady of that world to me haha. Cheers!
Duuuude! The second one! Congratulations 🎊 2 questions; what lens did you shoot this headshot with? 20mm? And, is that an eagle 🦅 at 4:31 ???!!! Wow! Fantastic, man. I finally found a place in Rome (italy) where they rent cameras and they have a Red Komodo. A bit expensive but I’ve got to get it for at least one day to try it!!! My goal for this year is to work hard to get one! Cheers
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
This was at about 28mm on the a7s iii @ f/2.8. And yup that’s a bald eagle. They are nesting near where I live. Pretty cool to see them on our daily walks :) Totally recommend renting it if you can! If you do rent it, certainly check out reds videos on getting started with it so when you rent it you can get right to filming 🙌
@topicruben
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards Absolutely (about renting it) Man, here in Italy we don’t have Eagles, at least where I live. Here we have falcons and they are amazing!!! Where are you in the USA?
Stumbled across your review … awesome work and small world. I’m a commercial photographer and work with a lot of firearm & tactical companies. I also worked with Tu on Activision’s COD campaigns. Awesome guy. Tell him, Kaleb White said, hi. Would be great to connect with ya.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man thanks for commenting! Your work is incredible. I’ll let him know you said hi and would love to connect sometime 🙏
The other huge issue I’ve come across is overheating. I was DP’ing a film shoot last year and on a 95 degree day, shooting in the shade, we were able to get maybe 5 minutes of shooting before the camera would shut off to protect itself. Then we had to wait 10+ minutes for it to cool down. Have you come across this with your Komodos?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Dang. I’ve never had an issue with overheating. Was the fan blocked or something?
@OTProd
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards nah, it had full clear access to that sweet hot 95 degree air. 😂
Your footage looks a lot like sony fx3 footage!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to think more like canon t2i footage tbh
@johnnyweissmuller5838
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards It was no disrespect, I just filmed similar scenes in a project and sat with the footage a long time and saw this video right after and it just looked very very similar.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Haha I didn’t take it as disrespect. The fx3 is an amazing camera and also produces a beautiful image (a7s3 owner here). They actually do cut really well together. Appreciate you dropping watching and commenting!
Question. My red camera turn on at first. Connected via dc-in. A test was conducted. And then, at the second power-up, it turned on, but after 30 seconds it went out. And it didn't work out any other way to turn it on. And they said that 4 boards were burned, how could this happen?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Contact RED support.
The 16 bit thing is a bit of a misnomer. Yes it originates at 16 bit linear, but you must debayer to 12 bit log or you won't be able to edit. Still 12 bit log is extremely good
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Looks good either way 👍
@leebrandt8597
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards I agree, it looks great. Personally, I'm not a fan of Red Digital as a company, but I do think their cameras are very good. Just not a fan of their business practices
In your opinion, Im on a RED Scarlet-w 5K (DSMC2). Is it worth the upgrade to jump to Komodo-X as my A-Cam?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Hard to say not knowing your workflow or production requirements. My best recommendation is to rent the KX and use it alongside the SW and make that call for yourself.
Red Raw on Nikon with Nikon Glass. Its gonna be fire for Nikon Shooters soon
Is it true that the Komodo is not 16 bit but it's actually 13 bit?
Global shutter like a film camera?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Read the comment and reply from V1Engineering Solutions 👍
I always like asking videographers like you if you’ve ever consider the black magic pocket cinema camera 6K pro over the red Komodo I feel that 6K pro is about the same quality if not close to, but also cost if you can do a breakdown video of why you would go read over black magic or something like that I always find them interesting and if there’s an audience for it, that’s a free idea I just gave you😂😂😂
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
The 6K Pro is a great camera and I own one. If you don’t need the global shutter and don’t care about a slightly tighter fov, the pocket 6K is an amazing deal
What is this SDI issue you sort of alluded to?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Since it has a 12G SDI out, it is more susceptible to being damaged if the SDI accessories aren’t properly grounded. People make a way bigger deal about it than necessary
@j.oakley9588
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards ohhhh, THAT conversion. Yeah, from what I understand the whole grounding issue is a pretty common one no matter what camera one uses.
06:21 "it's pretty close to a7s iii" WUT!!??? man, I thought RED Komodo has 2 more stops of DR than a7s iii. Literally the only reason I was considering it over a Sony.
@TylerEdwards
9 ай бұрын
Pretty close in usable stops.
@plisskenetic
5 ай бұрын
The darn a7s3 is super noisy AF. I know coz I owned it. That silly clean-noise at ISO12k is all BS coz it just uses noise reduction and removes detail.
@davemorphling7432
5 ай бұрын
you mean komodo is a better option, even at high ISO? what do you own now, and what do you suggest for lowlight? @@plisskenetic
If only RED image wouldn't look so digital, this would be the perfect camera. Well, until then, I'll probably have to stick with Canon since it's the closest thing to Alexa, which in turn has the perfect image aesthetic, closer to film. I had Scarlet-X, Epic-X, and Epic Dragon and moved away from RED for this exact reason. They improved with newer cameras, but the image is still distinctly "digitally RED." Well, I guess it's their own way, and they stick to it
I heard that when you record on 4k or 2k there is a crop factor. You didnt mention it.😢
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Same story on all RED cameras and every other camera that shoots in a raw format except for the URSA 12K I believe. Not a big deal to me.
00:29 - hy there ✌
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Hello there
@lazycreator7794
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerEdwards haven't finished yet, sorry i ain't gonna be distracted ✌, Enjoying it. 😇 Love from Nepal 🇳🇵
Just got off set with a komodo, had a few issues as a loader, I found the menu buggy sometimes needing to restart komodo to safe format media, but other than the scary SDI frying potential its a great camera with really nice image!
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Ya, the menu can sometimes be wonky especially if using the touch screen but agreed the image can be beautiful
@YouTube_can_ESAD
Жыл бұрын
@OP, did you or the DIT (if there was one) re-install software and test before production? We’ve done this on every job since 2008 with every digital cinema camera we’ve ever incorporated into production. If the menu was acting “wonky” then you guys should have handled it.
@SustainableGal
Жыл бұрын
@@KZread_can_ESAD it was a crappy low budget, running on 2 hours sleep every day for 8 days I just put up with it lmao. The dop had only just updated firmware also
Why red?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t believe it, but I made a video and talked about why in that video!
I prefer my RED Raven 120fps
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
That would make sense since it shoots 120fps at a higher resolution than komodo
You might want to try scripts and a teleprompter for your videos if you don’t already do that. It can help with some of the filler words like, “kinda” that make you sound unsure. I would also recommend you review your body language. Crossing your arms and squirming around makes you look like you’re uncomfortable to the viewer. Just my 2 pennies. Good content over all though.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Ya I sound pretty dumb hahaha. I did script this video but didn't have a prompter. I've used a prompter in the past and I sound like an idiot reading as well. There's no hope for me LOL. and to be fair for this video, I was super uncomfortable because I've been running on about 3-4 hours of sleep #newdad hahaha
@Oakhousefilms
Жыл бұрын
Noooo, bad advice! Teleprompters are a sure way to sound bland and corporate. I'll take personable and imperfect over the ubiquitous youtube overconfident unrealistically articulate script reader any day. Loved this!!
Let's be honest that camera is overhyped to death. You can match any serious cameras to the red komodo.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
All cameras are on overhyped tbh
I like the camera but I would never support this company.
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
To each their own
What anamorphic lenses were you using?
@TylerEdwards
Жыл бұрын
Laowa Nanomorph