Prayers to the 6 contract workers that perished. It's scary to think what they went through

@LaughingSkull451

Ай бұрын

Another bot 🤡

So heartbreaking...for Baltimore...and especially for those 6 workers who perished and their families whose lives are forever changed.

@CoreyMac_Productionz

Ай бұрын

heartbreaking...go read a novel...this is an attack by your government

@user-pb1mc4ex5x

Ай бұрын

I doubt that six people died. More than 50 cars fell into the water. The media, as always, are lying

@Hillary4SupremeRuler

Ай бұрын

@@Mosssflower I think the commenter understands that...hence "those 6 workers who perished"

@Hs5687

Ай бұрын

Tragic … Insurance Fraud cannot be Ruled Out…

@jeffhobbs3948

Ай бұрын

No the bridge was not clear of traffic ,There was only 90 sec.from the warning from he boat and the collapse.

1: Ship loses power. 2: Ship can't stop. 3: Ship hits supports. 4: Bridge collapses. THAT'S how it happened.... BTW, I AM NOT being SERIOUS.....

@Zboarts1990

Ай бұрын

Yea. And don't ask any questions.

@Macarena22279

Ай бұрын

Thank you

@bernym4047

Ай бұрын

Port authority deems it unnecessary for large cargo vessels to be towed beyond the bridge into open water by tugs. This is not a cost saving measure. It's merely to give the tug crews more time to play golf. 😉

@denzkiezeir5393

Ай бұрын

Captain's nationality? A big human error

@elenaferreiramaia

Ай бұрын

Ship can't stop, because there were no "defenses" in each pile of this bridge. Incredible. I search very carefully in Google Earth and the defenses do have a very poor design and they are very distant from the pile. Incredible mistake.

The engines were in full reverse at the time, which is why the ship didn’t go straight through the pillars and kept on moving. It is like trying to stop a car going down hill on ice. Also, on ships like these, when you lose power, the rudder doesn’t work anymore. The reason why they were turning is because the channel is a left turn out. Which is why the rudder was pointed left to begin with. The rudder is motor powered so when they lose power they can’t change the angle of the rudder which is why they kept turning. And for everyone saying they need tugs, they did. They had 2 which let it feel when they hit the standard speed. They also have pilot that boards the ship only for the trip out then he gets off again. They are the most skilled drivers of the port so the actual captain wasn’t piloting the ship when it crashed. It also doesn’t help that the ship was in an accident 4 years prior and sustained damages to the rudder which were never fixed. This is just a weird coincidence and accident. We’ve seen it before. Know your facts.

I’m sorry, it is indeed appropriate to discuss previous incidents occurring from this shipping company..it makes us better understand the culture of incompetence and negligence they have

@snakeoids1

Ай бұрын

I knew it

@dnb_brett_breezy

Ай бұрын

Just like boeing planes they do discuss their previous incidents why not this ships history and lives were lost 😢

@mikeylazovich3262

Ай бұрын

You mean Maersk? It happens, it comes with the territory of running a shipping company. If you are wondering, it's pretty dumb to assume that they'd destroy a structure on purpose considering all of the cargo that container ship was carrying. They did call may-day to clear the bridge and the captain on board and the pilot have to answer questions.

@mikeylazovich3262

Ай бұрын

Also Maersk is a Danish Shipping company and a pretty reputable one at that.

@joseph-mariopelerin7028

Ай бұрын

The thing is; ship are expected to fail.... instead of blaming the whole industry, put device in every ship have 2 tug on every boat....and make shipping cost go up... pouring concrete island in front of pillars is just too simple I guess...

Man takes for granted what's free. Environment, health family. We only value what cost money

@jennag3226

Ай бұрын

All those things cost money😂 nothing is for free

@yikesmcgee-gz3lq

Ай бұрын

That what I’m talkin bout

@ericsimpsom4417

Ай бұрын

Only 1 thing money can’t buy. It can buy love, happiness, etc but no matter what, it can’t buy you time. Everything takes money. We all know that. The key is finding a job or business that’s treats you great and u like what you do and suddenly, making money is easy.

@jjameson929

Ай бұрын

I value my faith it's free ..and my life

@yikesmcgee-gz3lq

Ай бұрын

Absolutely dominating

The way that fell down like a house of cards is utterly horrifying

@joeturner7959

Ай бұрын

That is basically why the bridge cost so much less. To over build a planter box, not much of a loss, but... to under build a bridge? It was up for decades. It just was not designed to take a full on container ship, ( which weighted in at 1/4 the ***entire*** bridge... )

Solution is extremely simple: 2 tug boats should escort cargo ships until they clear the whole areas & bridges. Greedy ports & shipping conglomerates don’t want to pay extra for the mom & pop owners of many of the tugging boats! 😡

@YoboYT

Ай бұрын

You realize the entire run from Port to sea is 100 miles right?

@prateekbhatt5444

Ай бұрын

What he means to say that two to three tug boats all the time standby at such crucial position at all times to avoid such situation. If tug boats are standby such situation can be take care before situation run out of control. Imagin no cost for loss of life. 191 mil dollars a day for port cost. So many people at work at port. All this is nothing compared to 3 tugs standby near bridge all time for such situations. I believe it la not just vessel to be blamed. It’s also port control. Why can’t they foresee such emergency might happen. I believe they do have a team to forsee such incidents that might happen.

@DB-thats-me

Ай бұрын

Ummmm…the ports would charge for them but, you, the public, will pay for them.

@jbrown4137

Ай бұрын

​@prateekbhatt5444 the ship would need to stop prior and attach to the tug boats, then be escorted through. Tug boats return and repeat. It's not just hey I am near if needed and when you lose control we can try and get it under control then. Also that cost would not be cheap and simply passed on to the consumer. No simply solution as in "oh just do this its no issue". And you likely would need no less then 6 to 12 tug boats to make sure all ships are covered both directions.

@TK0_23_

Ай бұрын

@@harley2die4 Absolutely. And you pay for the fuel and labor cost.

Worst thing that can happen to a ship (other than a fire) is to lose power. You have to look at why it lost power

@JohnleBonReturns

Ай бұрын

On your list of 'worst things that can happen to a ship', where does *sinking* rank?

@colliswilliams8992

Ай бұрын

The same reason gas pumps never work correctly at certain gas stations. The owners are cheap.

@keyjam9

Ай бұрын

Why it went hard right when the power came back on?

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

@@JohnleBonReturns I think he was referring to a “floating” ship

@pk3

Ай бұрын

Oh they have to look at why it lost power? Omg.. Did you come up with that idea on your own? You’re a genius.

We demand a full investigation. Nothing redacted, all names named, all information made public

It breaks my heart they still haven’t found the workers

@janetphillips2875

Ай бұрын

Well, I think they know their whereabouts, they just cannot get to them until some of the steel, concret, and cables are removed.

@virtualmartini

Ай бұрын

in America: a ship crewed by Indians collapses a bridge ending six foreign workers. What happened to all the Americans?

@Adam48374

12 күн бұрын

@@virtualmartiniit was driven by American Ukrainian, American, and Indian people

This bridge has been very special to me. I live right next to it. I remember before my dad died. We went on the bridge and we saw the nice view. They didn’t have to do this to my last memory of my dad.

A similar thing happened in Tasmania 3 years before this bridge was built, traffic is now stopped when large ships approach on the new bridge

@eagles4eva05

Ай бұрын

I live on the island of Atlantic city in nj and same here on our small bridges. Traffic is stopped so bridge can raise up for boats to pass thru

RECAP: loss of power and no bridge protection.

@tammyallen8205

Ай бұрын

You got that right. So, true.

@109sssss

Ай бұрын

change that to poor chip maintenance and no tugboat escort

@WaaDoku

Ай бұрын

Kinda weird that one of the biggest ports in the entire US didn't have any proper bridge pillar protection installed.

@MsDancer50

Ай бұрын

Maybe Under ground tunnels prevented installing better pillar protectors? Just guessing.

Where is the ship's captain's interview?

I live in the DMV area and have driven across that bridge on a few occasions, once drove across while a cruise ship was passing underneath, and was a little afraid of what would happen if the ship hit the column, I made it across before the ship passed, that shipping port is huge and very busy with cargo ships and cruise liners, prayers to the families of those workers.

@listen2music811

Ай бұрын

I live in the DMV and have been across the Key Bridge and many many times over decades, the Chesapeake /bay bridge..talk about scary! God was with me ..I never gave driving across a 2nd thought . As above, prayers for the families of deceased workers..God Bless their souls.

Can anyone show me how a ship with that momentum turned so much please lol

@darylshanley2674

Ай бұрын

Redact that lol for a moment I forgot about the souls that lost their lives

@mikeylazovich3262

Ай бұрын

No steering

@prateekbhatt5444

Ай бұрын

Since she was still moving the momentum was there. As soon as power restored they used hard over the rudders and emergency astern engines. Since container ships have powerful engines reacted fast and with momentum and wake the ship turned to stbd so quickly. But sadly again power loss left them with no hand and limbs to fight the war. Suggest they shud have maintained course and speed to allow vessel to steer under the bridge. Could have a good chance to sail out safely under as ship had momentum good 10-15 were manageable. But this is easy to say after the incident happened. Putting in such situation I guess they did best under such emergency. Panic and situation. Hats off to all crew onboard. And RIP for the souls who left this world. Learning lesson shud be ship managers and owners to avoid cost cutting for vessels. Ports to start spending money on tug boats and other means. Surprisingly most ports in world are short of proper power tug boats.

@faithhowe6170

Ай бұрын

They were without steering, at the mercy of winds and water currents, and they dropped an anchor. The reason for the turn can be for any one or a combination of these. The NTSB will figure it out.

@crystalo.4929

Ай бұрын

Rudders stay the course it was set for even without power, someone had to manually stir the boat into the beam...per a Navel supervisor with years of experience.

The bridge pillar had to be protected by a sandbank, so that no deep-draught ship could bump into it. The bridge itself should not be a single piece prone to avalanche collapse.

Ok so then why are the taxpayers paying for this?

I love how everyone on the comment section are bridge and ship experts Edit: I myself am a deep-sea submersible expert when it come to carbon fibers ---

@AwkwardCreek

Ай бұрын

Just theories

@duncanmcgoo4891

Ай бұрын

I love how people are allowed to discuss their personal theories and opinions

@vesstig

Ай бұрын

@MrUranium238 shut it

@freddieNyack

Ай бұрын

mayor Pete is.

@reynaldomadolaria8139

Ай бұрын

you this by an engineering intelligence , where you can connect matters in science. However, an ordinary poorman can think this like. But in an extreme xases, where axts of God is now in despair, no one except superman can do this.

Why was the ship heading in the wrong direction in the first place, even before the apparent power failure? It shouldn't have been anywhere near the bridge. It should have been heading out to sea.

@bwelc0076

Ай бұрын

It was heading out to sea.

Guess those years of collecting tolls to pay for ‘taking care of the bridge’ didn’t include installing protective concrete dolphins.

@Rozwell007

Ай бұрын

Preeeeaaaacccccchhhhhh

@DB-thats-me

Ай бұрын

Tolls go the roading authority, dolphins are the pervue of the Army Corps.

@cattnipp

Ай бұрын

Yep, it went to DEI stupidity

@QUICKBOOKS1

Ай бұрын

Another phrase I had never heard of. Thank You!

@nikostalk5730

Ай бұрын

a non-spent dollar is an easy-saved dollar

Not an expert, but I believe that bridge with that high of ship traffic should have had better protection knowing it was an old design that could not hold an accident with today’s ship.

@lizbethartemis4886

Ай бұрын

since 2015 receiving larger and larger cargo ships and Ever Green hot stuck there. 10 ships have gotten stuck leaving that port.

@evilpotatoman9436

Ай бұрын

protection does nothing against a ship of this size, literally nothing. This is a case of they got too greedy with ship size and now we pay the price, you either accept bad luck every few years or change ship sizes back to "normal".

@davids.2703

Ай бұрын

"No bridge pier could withstand being hit by a ship the size of the Dali, said Benjamin W. Schafer, a professor of civil and systems engineering at Johns Hopkins University."

@themistoklis6237

Ай бұрын

Or train pilots not to aim for the bridge supports as they had out. How about the middle section where there is plenty of room.

@duncanmcgoo4891

Ай бұрын

Yes it does. Ships can be deflected rather easily @@evilpotatoman9436

The bridge supports were left unprotested in a huge busy Cargo port...No-one ever thought of pouring concrete collision guards that would deflect the ship back into the channel?

@JBTYpr

Ай бұрын

I’m not sure what kind of barrier would effectively deflect something that huge and heavy, effectively a skyscraper on the water. Even with barriers in place this may have still happened, even with all that I tend to agree that something would have been better than nothing.

@robertandlizforever7862

Ай бұрын

Our tampa bridge has them look it up there built 100 foot from the piles and about 20 foot concrete circles

@Paul1958R

Ай бұрын

If you watch this NTSB yt video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/daubsaqpis_epsY.html you can see that there were four (two at each main span concrete support, one on either side) round (20 ft diameter ?) structures in the channel. At two:fifty five in that video you can see one just on the starboard (right) side of the ship. I assume these were intended to deflect a vessel heading toward the supports. They are not very large - especially in relation to the size of that container ship so I have no idea how effective they would be if the ship even struck it. You can also see that towers for power lines parallell to the bridge also had barriers.

@maiden5427

Ай бұрын

That bridge came down like lego, a complete redesign of the bridge is the only thing that would have made sense to me

@lizbethartemis4886

Ай бұрын

since 2015 increase size of mega cargo ships without modernizing bridge. Ever Green got stuck there. it took weeks to dredge around and free. Greed - mega ships, fewer trips, & less marine gasoline.

The united states shouldnt foot the bill for a new bridge the ships owner should pay it all if it has to sell all its ships and assets so be it if we was to hit something in our cars our insurance would have to pay

@DB-thats-me

Ай бұрын

Ok. One of your friends borrows your car and crashes it into a building. Should you pay? After all, it’s your car! This ship is owed by one company, leased to another, flagged to a third country, crewed by yet another country and carrying goods from everywhere else. Good luck suing anyone!

@syncmonism

Ай бұрын

There would be a maximum amount for any policy though, and the ship's insurance policy likely has a maximum payout that isn't anywhere near the cost of replacing this bridge.

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

BS, the ships owner only has to pay for the economic value of bridge that was almost 0 dollar. USA always waits to let an accident happen, and let others pay. USA will give a blanket to the people who lost loved ones in this incident. The bow of ship hits pillar andf then pier stopped ship, completely absurd. A shame for a country, not for a banana republic like USA of course.

@Johnnie223

Ай бұрын

The country needs a replacement bridge asap. Too many jobs at stake. Other business comes after this has been started.

@doreenstodolski615

Ай бұрын

Sleepy joe just blowing smoke As Always, Deter-Deflect

The ship went throught maintance check.up. Just before the ship ran into the main section of the Bridge. That took it down.. . Couldn't drop emergency anchor. ..Sounds little fishie to me.

@JakeTurbine

Ай бұрын

Weren’t most of the crew Chinese? 🤔

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

@@JakeTurbine Ukrainian Pilot …… Just another coincidence though

@williammitcheltree8788

Ай бұрын

I was afraid that I was the only one who wondered WHY the Anchor wasn't dropped when the first power loss occurred !!

@JakeTurbine

Ай бұрын

@@Ramjeet_PooInYourStreet I seem to be hearing conflicting details on the crew. I’ll have to look into it myself this evening if I find the time.

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

And 2 minutes of Data is missing from black box… Just another coincidence.. As is power failing at that exact moment.

What a wild coincidence the way the boat seems to make hard turn right into the worst spot 🙏 for all victims

I pray for all those who lost loved ones. I also pray for those who have no idea who Francis Scott Key was. Do better, America!

Man, they really wrapped this one up quick, huh? Hardly mentioned the casualties. Guess they can build their new bridge now.

@notworthit1096

Ай бұрын

That’s what Im thinking too. They had the perfect opportunity and went for it.

@aseasonedtrucker431

Ай бұрын

No according to Biden us taxpayers are going to pay for it and not the Dali’s insurance

@Techmatt167Official

Ай бұрын

And guess who’s paying for it all!

@wesleeysutton5935

Ай бұрын

Its sad atleast they did it during maintenance imagine rush hour...its crazy how are government does this though its not the first time either

@micaheller6426

Ай бұрын

Definitely intentional, by who I don’t know.

USA govt and Baltimore Govt official statement says that Fortunately just because of the Indian Crew onboard has made SOS message to Authorities about power failure of the cargo ship within time, it enabled them to avoid a lot of potential life threatening scenarios.

@amandawatkins4447

Ай бұрын

6 people lost their lives. 4 families grieving without bodies they may never get back. It happened in the middle of the night when most are in the bed. This is already terrible what more can happen but of course the government gonna come and act like a savior. The government did this that ship curved and headed straight towards that bridge. I would hope by now most eyes are open that the us government always “secretly” doing thing behind our back

I’m shocked it took this long before it did!

Absolutely devastating. So sorry for their losses

Tug boats are used in our Port All the time and we don't have a bridge 🤔

@duran9664

Ай бұрын

Solution is extremely simple: 2 tug boats should escort cargo ships until they clear the whole areas & bridges. Greedy ports & shipping conglomerates don’t want to pay extra for the mom & pop owners of many of the tugging boats! 😡

@davidulmer9774

Ай бұрын

I don't know what ports your in, but working offshore in Lousianna, Mississippi, Alabama, and Texas, I don't think I've ever seen tug boats bringing boats in. Seen them with some jackup drilling rigs and a few boats that lost power, other than constantly moving barges. Not saying they don't some places, but I haven't seen it.

@NCMCPlantier

Ай бұрын

Tug boats are used here also. They had just released this vessel being away for from the docks. The Captain had called for them when power went out. There just wasn’t enough time before impact

Does the section of the anchor is also dependent on the main engine of the ship as weel as the steering wheel of the ship.

@nikostalk5730

Ай бұрын

dunno how it works, but this must work as handbrake on a car, with no power and anything to rely on

SO SORRY FOR ALL THIS

Rip all victims souls.🙏. And my full condolences to all family members and friends involved, Really sad and heartbreaking,

It looked like it was made of match sticks !

@lizbethartemis4886

Ай бұрын

that bridge was open in 1975. Not built for mega cargo ships.

@Gullah_James1962

Ай бұрын

Yes, I am not an expert but that bridge do look like it was weld together/ builded in the cheapest fashion..!!!

@RichardCourtney-

Ай бұрын

@@Gullah_James1962 Yes, you are not. The construction was fine. Park your "builded" garden shed on some train tracks, and let's see what happens.

@kevinmach730

Ай бұрын

@@RichardCourtney- "No, you are not"

@wolf44875

Ай бұрын

😂

The Government should put in place a stricter law which states all vessels that gos under a bridge must be accompanied with a tugboat to present and the companys must pay for the service for the safety of both sides safety is the issue

@arthurhernandez8937

Ай бұрын

Bigger issue is the bridge poor design, it had no pylon barriers to protect bridge from collision

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

Why not protect a bridge? The bow of ship did hit pillar, pillars are not made for collisions. The pier was not wide enough. In 1980 another ship did hit same bridge, with bow it dfid "chip" pillar, bit different direction of ship, bridge would have collapsed as well.

@destructionman1

Ай бұрын

You gonna pay for that?

@themistoklis6237

Ай бұрын

How about not planning to graze the supports as you head out? Why sail so close to the supports.

@arthurhernandez8937

Ай бұрын

@@themistoklis6237 they lost power it seems and were just along for the ride couldnt change course

But why was the ship headed that far right in the first place? Are you saying that it WAS centered between the pillars and, when they lost power, the ship just swerved all the way to the right?!

@andrewmcarthur3843

Ай бұрын

Ya.Didn't look centered at any point

@ThresholdGaming

Ай бұрын

Rule 9 - Narrow Channels (a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.

@ThresholdGaming

Ай бұрын

@@andrewmcarthur3843 Rule 9 - Narrow Channels (a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.

Navy needs to take charge and direct efforts

Ships have gotten too big for bridges built years ago

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

Nonsense, this bridge had a not protected pier, in 1980 a ship also did hit pillar with bow, but then it only chipped pillar. This time, bow of ship destroyed pillar and then pier stopped ship, absurd. 100% proof a pier with protection would have stopped ship, bow would never have hit pillar.

@jimpowell2296

Ай бұрын

I believe the harbormaster and the captains of each ship are the ones responsible for safe passage. Would they not have certain things you do for all scenarios coming in and out of the harbor, day or night.

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

@@jimpowell2296 That is why they protected bridge in Florida after accident with bridge did happen? In this case bow did hit pillar, boat should have hit pier first. Lot of damage far above water line, that should never have happened, with a wider pier bow would never have hit pillar.

@moggpiano8043

Ай бұрын

​@@bfa-xi1py No. The two situations cannot be compared. This is a full face direct hit by a huge vessel not even thought of in the 80s. Bigger and heavier ships are being built all the time, how can you constantly upgrade bridge defences across the world, every time a new monster takes to the sea? A 1977 bridge versus a 2015 vessel. No contest.

@Aaron-dp5kb

Ай бұрын

No there were tugs to help these ship in harbor. If there was a tug this would have never happend

How could these huge ships not have escort tug boats encircling them when nearing bridges?

@RichardCourtney-

Ай бұрын

Insufficient regulations. They very well may need to be required to do it from now on.

@B501R

Ай бұрын

Where's the ship's captain. Did he fled???

@elaineweinberg7094

Ай бұрын

I live on the Delaware I see tug boats assisting all the time.

@frost_spirit3314

Ай бұрын

@@B501R the ship lost power what's bro supposed to do

@RichardCourtney-

Ай бұрын

@@B501R You mean flee? The port captain is on board until he/she turns control over to the ship's captain. Port captains are experts in local conditions and hazards. This is normal in every large port in the world.

So the Pilot made all the right calls, Really?? If he had done the right thing from the Get Go, it wouldn't of been a News.

There should be something in place around all bridge supports that keep vessels this size away from pilons, make them pay the tugs into the channel or keep them away from the supports!!!

It hurts deep down as I was on that ship year2022😢

I was reading that the River there is 50 feet deep.. That's another reason why it's been hard to Recover the Missing Road Construction Crew.

@bwelc0076

Ай бұрын

It's dredged periodically to maintain that depth. There are plans for bigger ships.

"This is all a simulation... but we have a REAL captain" lol. Had me fooled.

Devastating because Baltimore has had so many major problems in the past decade or more. I just gave up going there after the Inner Harbor became dangerous and no longer a tourist draw. Just a major crime hub for the state--sadly--Maybe this will bring the city back . And just think of the jobs lost in addition to the workers who lost their LIVES just going to work---Families, their children, wives, grandparents ---just heartbreaking.

Best report on the issue out there..complete with a quick simulation and all. Thumbs up

This could have been avoided if concrete dolphins were installed to protect the supports for the bridge. See the 1980 Sunshine Skyway bridge collapse in Florida and the solution to that problem

@davidjones-vx9ju

Ай бұрын

don't blame the bridge

@moggpiano8043

Ай бұрын

There are "dolphins" there. The vessel just rode over them. The real problem is...... How do we upgrade every bridge, everytime someone builds a bigger, heavier ship?

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

@@moggpiano8043 Nonsense, it did miss a dolphin and then bow did hit pillar. Same did happen in 1980 with same bridge , but then bow did just "chip" pillar, a bit different direction and perhaps bridge would have collapsed then. The pillar is not made for collisions. The pier later did stop ship, you can see it everywhere on video. The pier was not wide enough, damage can be see far above water line.

@AlexDrewsumin

Ай бұрын

These ships are 2-3 times larger than the ones in 1980.

@robertkerr8734

Ай бұрын

Right ! 40 years ago and nothing was learned.

I love how the video now starts after the ship bust that right smh

Prayers for everyone ❤

So no tug boats are used at night?

The real challenge is getting the insurance to pay after your president has already said he is paying 100% for the new bridge.

@syncmonism

Ай бұрын

The insurance company doesn't get released from their obligation to pay just because some other party offers to pay, and, believe it or not, the US federal government has a lot of bargaining leverage and isn't easily bullied by an insurance corporation. It's implicit that Biden was only committing to pay whatever doesn't get covered by insurance.

@jo0123

Ай бұрын

Insurance takes time, they will have to pay eventually.

@barbwire4879

Ай бұрын

It's Biden. He thinks he has a credit card with JOE Biden. I'm on in KZread jail. Now. !!!! It's the truth

@lawrence809

Ай бұрын

Oddly the cost of the bridge is the same amount the Ukraine needs.

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

They will only have to pay for an old bridge, not a new one. Besides, bridge was not protected, bow did hit pillar, should never have happened, pier was not wide enough.

it did not crash, it took a hard right and drove straight into it at exactly the right spot to take it down,,,move along

Why wasn’t the ship going in the direction of going under the bridge instead it looks like it was hit intentionally and where are the workers of the ship? What do they have to say?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Why were they sailing so close to the bridge support anyway?

@JenniferSchumacher-rx8ri

Ай бұрын

Because it was on purpose

@jimtalbott2894

Ай бұрын

What timing the ship loses power only when it gets close to the bridge. It's kind of funny. 😂

@Macarena22279

Ай бұрын

​@@JenniferSchumacher-rx8ri🤡🤡🤡

@Macarena22279

Ай бұрын

​@@jimtalbott2894well I'm glad you can laugh

ensure seaworthiness before leaving the docks. the bridge was constructed to withstand the weight and load of vehicles and not the impact of a collision with a more or less 100,000 ton ship at harbor speed with no breaks.

@mikekraan823

Ай бұрын

The bridge was built taking ships into consideration from the 1970's. They are obviously much larger and heavier today than they were back then. And the are BRAKES, not "breaks", and no, ships don't have them.

This is so emotional saying a prayer for the families 😇💜RIP

I was on the USNS Navajo (T-ATF 169) towing the ex-USS Coronado when we lost power at sea. We started slowing down, but the much more massive ship behind us didn't. If we didn't have rudder control we would have been run over. Even if they had rudder control, they would have had a hell of a time trying to get that insanely massive ship turned/stopped.

I've been on some big jobs and I can't believe they let ships that big go through there without tugboats they're not allowed to go under the bridge without a tugboat not even get close to it without a tugboat should I say tugboat again

@FalconXE302

Ай бұрын

I thought that interesting also. Where I live, TWO Tugboats follow each and every ship IN and OUT the port until they reach the ocean, or are docked.

@nikostalk5730

Ай бұрын

saving money of excessive safety, this is how big money works

They aren't going to rethink the size of the ships... That would disrupt the flow of commerce It would be cheaper to rethink the bridge designs. Cargo vessels are no different than commercial trucks and the car that you drive. You can do all the maintenance in the world but sometimes s*** happens. Piloting a large vessel is similar to driving a car with bald tires on ice. They don't have brakes, no action you take with regards to propulsion or navigating is seen immediately. It takes time for any large motor vessel to react to your input strictly because of the gross tonnage, the lack of friction that all vessels have due to physics and an object in motion wants to stay in motion... The more mass and object has in motion the longer it takes to change direction or momentum. This was just worst case scenario from top to bottom. Sometimes s*** just happens. They can find out what the cause was... They can check the fuel tanks make sure that there was no water. Check the fuel pumps. Check the human factor. You can see in the video, the times, when the EGT kicked off and when they restarted the mains. They were all within SOLAS and US regulations. There's a few things that I don't get, like they only dropped one anchor... If you have a major casualty you drop both. If you only drop one you created a pivot point that you can swing and that's the last thing you want to do when you're that close to something you can hit. Nobody has said who made that call but the recorder will let us know. Was it the pilot, was it the master? Just understand they were very limited given when the casualty occurred when it comes to options available to rectify or correct. Those of us with experience can all play armchair quarterback. Like I said I would have dropped both anchors and I would have done it sooner. Yes it would have delayed departure. Yes there would be an investigation and we'd have to turn back around and more up but it's far better than this. The main thing is that we learn how it happened, why it happened make new legislation to prevent it from happening in the future and I'm sure that international regulations will change depending on the outcome of the investigation

@syncmonism

Ай бұрын

Probably this is not just a matter of bad luck, but it's possible. Likely there is at least something to be learned from this which can help to make it less likely to happen again in the future.

@davidjones-vx9ju

Ай бұрын

thanks mr wizard

@lukequigley121

Ай бұрын

UNFORSEEN events befall us all..

@JeffroNoNothing

Ай бұрын

That only dropping one anchor also bothers me. Not saying it's the case but perhaps they only had one crew member to let loose the anchors and he only had time to do one and not the other (dependent on how close the release mechanisms are to each other). But I'm kind of thinking anyway that it was already too late even if both anchors were dropped, even if simultaneously. For the moment, it looks like the crew, including and especially the harbor pilot, pretty much did everything properly that they could do (apart from leaving port with faulty vital equipment and insufficient maintenance, if they were aware of it). It's that the timing was awful. It all happened so late that a difference could not be made even with all the emergency measures they took. The only question then is if they could have made them any sooner to make a difference?

@bsrcat1

Ай бұрын

@@JeffroNoNothing I am kind of surprised that given how close the bridge is to the moorings for the harbor that it's wasn't a COTP requirement to at least have one tug if you're over x amount GWT.

The amount of containers, and that's only one of countless, just wow

Are the engine controller and generator controllers hackable from outside the ship???

the problem is easily explained. This ship loses power. it doesn"t have any control whatsoever.

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

Then how did it make a sharp right turn directly into the bridge support.? At the EXACT right moment !

@nikostalk5730

Ай бұрын

@@michaelcalland801 well, i think is kinda RWD car issues on ice. Not much to do, but you have to chose. When you are already in a slide, anything you'll do - will end up with collision, anyway, the possible change is - which side will suffer more, the front, the side, or front+side.

no mention of the bumpers placed to protect base of bridge

@MakeArtNotWar2023

Ай бұрын

There weren't any concrete dolphins installed there, that's why. That's surprising for such an important port on the east coast.

@DB-thats-me

Ай бұрын

⁠even with dolphins, 100,000tons, 8 knots….probably same result.

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

@@DB-thats-me No, pier did stop ship. But first bow of ship did hit pillar. Lot of damage far above water line, in 1980 another ship did hit bridge, but then bow only did "chip" pillar, but different direction and perhaps bridge would already have collapsed then. When a ship is deflected, the water displacement does increase, water does become friend to stop ship.

Why, after the bridge strike in Tampa Bay in 1980, did they not recommend and fund dolphins at critical bridges? 44 years later and how many bridges are still unprotected?

lose power lose control what else do you need to know

@user-jc8rz2jj9r

Ай бұрын

I think it’s ‘lose’ not loose.

@davidjones-vx9ju

Ай бұрын

why did it lose power?

@timwalling3101

Ай бұрын

@@davidjones-vx9ju still waiting like everyone else on that one ah

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

@@davidjones-vx9ju At that exact moment

We've had that bridge for YEARS & anybody that live here or in the area knows not to take that big a** ship under that bridge.

@mikeylazovich3262

Ай бұрын

It's a cargo ship

@gomez2724

Ай бұрын

Apparently you never see a cargo ship go in or out of the port?

@patrickdenegri9115

Ай бұрын

It’s a commercial port. It’s a cargo ship. I don’t know what bridge you’re referring to, but ships that size have been navigating under the FSKB for 50 years. The fact this is their first catastrophic event in half a century is more of a testament to the port authority than it is an indictment. It’s a tragedy and could have been avoided. But the size of the ship has as much to do with it as the color of the shirt the captain was wearing.

@yikesmcgee-gz3lq

Ай бұрын

It’s just a cargo ship. It’s not that big compared to mega ships. 🚢 🛳️

@dansanger5340

Ай бұрын

How would cargo ships access the port facilities built to service them without going under the bridge?

Why was it pointed towards the pillar right before it was going to hit it?

Use Tugs to control ships going near bridges or build correct pillar buffers and banking

if the ship blacked out, they should have drop the anchor

@lolzlolz102

Ай бұрын

First of all they did drop anchor, secondly anchors are not designed to stop a moving ship of that mass. Given enough time and space you could knock speed off (providing the chain isn't ripped from the ship) but those are two things they didn't have!

“Careened helplessly out of control” remember when we had journalists who spoke unbiased facts without sensational assumptions?!

@themadoneplays7842

Ай бұрын

Eh to be fair I would use similar terminology considering what we know so far about what happened. I mean, stopping a shipping vessel isn't like trying to apply brakes to a car. Its not just the engines that can move a ship forward.

@Nopaants

Ай бұрын

@@themadoneplays7842 to be fair would be to not make assumptions about a situation without knowing the facts. There is zero evidence at this time to state the ship was out of control. Deliberate or a mistake means the ship was in control but no evidence either way so don’t put misleading assumptions in people’s heads especially when it’s the media’s responsibility to report facts not opinion. That’s fair.

@themadoneplays7842

Ай бұрын

@@Nopaants well how would you have described it then without it sounding "sensationalist?" I'm morbidly curious.

@Nopaants

Ай бұрын

@@themadoneplays7842 well gee?! I’m not a journalist! Oh wait, it doesn’t matter. “The latest goal is piecing together the final moments on board the ship just before colliding with Baltimore’s Key bridge.” Just the facts.

Bless those families❤

@brucea550

Ай бұрын

A little late now. Doubt they feel very blessed. What would you suggest?

The ship is stacked so high it didn't even look like it could pass under the bridge.

@davidbhart1867

Ай бұрын

It absolutely could. How do you think it got into the port in the first place?

@blueeyedsoulman

Ай бұрын

@@davidbhart1867 Without the containers.

@BethB2010

Ай бұрын

The ship's bridge is easily in full view over top of the shipping containers. Use your brain, stop saying goofy things.

@blueeyedsoulman

Ай бұрын

@@BethB2010 So why not drop the anchors? Something's not right here. How did he get on a trajectory straight for the pylon?

@BethB2010

Ай бұрын

Dude take the tinfoil hat off. They did try that but it was too late. Trying to stop that couple hundred thousand ton ship on a dime is literally impossible. It already had forward momentum when it lost power. The amount of drag/energy that would need to be exerted to pull it to a stop is unimaginable. Those in control of that ship did everything they could to prevent as much loss of life as possible. Called mayday immediately and begin multiple attempts to regain power and steer away from the pier of that bridge. It is a tragedy that there wasn't more time to tell those working on the bridge. But traffic was halted which saved so many lives.

I have so many sarcastic comments to make right now , but not gonna go there because there are lives lost . My Heart goes out to these people

@eagle25311

Ай бұрын

Your heart can't go out it has to stay in or you'll die.

@listen2music811

Ай бұрын

Please...no sarcastic replies. YOu don't know the full circumstances. Man lives were saved because of ht SOS sent by the crew.

@listen2music811

Ай бұрын

What does that mean! Very stupid remarlk..not amusing at all during thi situation@@eagle25311

And yes I do know a little something about this because I’m a towboat captain and have 43 years experience

One news agency stated that the pilot had requested tugs for the departure. The request was denied.They should ask the person who denied the request why they made that decision. I believe this might have been prevented if the tugs had been used.

I don’t understand why the ship was even over there in the first place, like shouldn’t you wanna be close to middle

@Mikee535

Ай бұрын

That was my question too

@rachelmackrell9891

Ай бұрын

I felt the same way. Why did they go that way to begin with?

@michaelcalland801

Ай бұрын

You would think… But asking questions is forbidden… They already told us…” Mechanical Error”,,, “ No terrorism”…! And that was before they even examined the black box. Just nod your head & obey

@ThresholdGaming

Ай бұрын

Rule 9 - Narrow Channels (a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.

@ThresholdGaming

Ай бұрын

@@Mikee535 Rule 9 - Narrow Channels (a) A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable.

It was an accident. Just like if your car broke down on the highway. Asking ‘how can we prevent this from happening’ is completely ridiculous. You can’t prevent any and all accidents from happening. Much like news reports like this.

@bfa-xi1py

Ай бұрын

BS, a wider pier would have stopped ship as in fact the pier did, but bow did hit pillar first and the pillar is not designed for collisions.

@ohsweetmystery

Ай бұрын

If the captain had responded appropriately and immediately dropped anchor at the first power outage, he would have had four minutes to try to stop. Instead he waited for several minutes before dropping anchor.. This is just incompetence and it could absolutely be used as a lesson to prevent future accidents.

@guguigugu

Ай бұрын

in every accident we ask ourselves how to prevent it. this is how safety is improved.

@terezjordon2290

Ай бұрын

It’s called a debriefing; the entire team comes together and discusses what went wrong so changes can be made to prevent better future outcomes. That’s how process improvement works. This is common sense to most professionals. It’s also good to practice scenarios like this so tasks become a natural instinct during an emergency situation.

In addition: these ships are so large and move so slow, they do not rely on the rudder entirely. They have side thrusters. So a loss of power is a death sentence.

Is anyone know where this ship was heading for please ??? Thanks...

An overloaded, badly maintained cargo ship crashed into an unprotected bridge. Sounds pretty simple to me

@Robertsusamade

Ай бұрын

lol

@Erusean_pilot

Ай бұрын

Not overloaded. Not unprotected.

No explanation as to why the ship turned sharp right to hit the bridge support directly!!

@ExecutiveGuardian

Ай бұрын

It’s all part of the plan

Prayers for the crew who lost their lives and prayers for the trafficked humans in the containers who will probably die before being recovered 🙏

Negligence for sure... Mr. George

Incompetence

@prateekbhatt5444

Ай бұрын

Above your knowledge level and understanding.

I believe it was no accident. I think the shipping company should pay for rebuilding this bridge and sued

@atg1338

Ай бұрын

No accident? What happened then Mr. Know it all🤔

@darby5987

Ай бұрын

Your belief is based on what hard evidence? With your permission, would it be OK if we allow the NTSB to conduct a professional investigation and publish its report before we keel haul the Captain, administer 100 whip lashes before the mast to the helmsman and pilot and confine the owner to prison for life, demand they pay for the bridge and then sue them? Hey, it's just a suggestion based on, Oh...I don't know...the owner Captain, harbor pilot and the crew's 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 14th Amendment protections against deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process of law and equal protection of the law? Rights such as jury trial, right to legal counsel, right to call their own witnesses, right to cross examine witnesses against them?

@doompod

Ай бұрын

Negligence is still considered an accident. There’s currently no indication the ship was intentionally driven into the bridge to cause collapse.

@atg1338

Ай бұрын

@@darby5987 He's a maga voter who has no facts!

@agcons

Ай бұрын

@@darby5987 I'm sure you lost him/her at "Your".

I'm from Sweden and its similar to TJÖRN bridge disaster in 1980 when a ship called Star Clipper hit the bridge eight people died.

That Miguel guy should just go home, what a dork.

@MissTJ516

Ай бұрын

He seems young and learning, why so rude?

The piers were too small for the kind of traffic that used this waterway. Intentional or caused by malfunctions makes no difference, the bridge had little protection from "normal" traffic. Our race to the bottom and save money at any cost caused this. The bridge was operated this way for decades and just allowed to continue until it couldn't. We don't have a continuous improvement mentality any more.

The "Black box" was never in danger of being lost and it was not physically removed. The data was downloaded onto a flash drive. The NTSB has a flash drive with the last 30 days of data

@Hillary4SupremeRuler

Ай бұрын

Then what was that thing they were showing us

That bridge fell like a house of cards

Incompetents

What is truly concerning is, the bay Bridge also doesn't have any protection against something like this.

@WTHenry2023

Ай бұрын

Which one?? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge. The San Francisco Bay Bridge etc?

@TheAs63401

Ай бұрын

They’re probably referring to the eastern shore, Chesapeake. I’ve driven over that bridge many times and still often do

this no accident . Heads will roll over this act . Speed limits should also be enforced on all these large loaded down ships . This loaded ship was doing in excess of 8 knots .

Keep in mind that another ship with hazardous material on board just exploded in the Port of Colombo it had only 25 tons of nitric acid, we were told. This decrepit ship with 800 tons of hazardous material hit the bridge. And it was to called at Colombo, it seems. The authorities would do well to see if all those material are still on board. In SriLanka marine creatures died for a long time. The claiming of compensation has become a controversial matter still being discussed.

If AquaMan did his fucking job this could have been prevented. 😂

@agcons

Ай бұрын

That is one of the more sane comments I've read in this thread.😂

@johnstjohn1987

Ай бұрын

@@agcons Here all week 😆

Way to convenient how perfect the scenario played out....to not be intentional.

@agcons

Ай бұрын

@orcasarebest For some people.

No tugboats anywhere in sight??? Standard protocol requires tugboats to guide ships in/out of ports...