Reasons to Cut Down & Mill Small Trees - Douglas fir on Woodmizer LT15 Sawmill

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There are some good reasons to cut trees when they are small instead of letting them continue to grow. Of course this is not all trees, probably not even most trees. But in many cases, it makes sense to cut them when they are small. I cut down a Small Douglas fir tree, put it on my Woodmizer LT15 Sawmill, and see how much lumber we can get out of a small tree. In the process, I will show you several reasons to cut and mill trees when they are small.

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  • @DanielAtkinsFirewood
    @DanielAtkinsFirewood8 ай бұрын

    Your knowledge and sense of humor is why i know i keep coming back.. keep it up and never change that 🤣👍

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that. It’s always helpful to know what things people are enjoying and keeps them coming back.

  • @SasquatchBunyan
    @SasquatchBunyan4 ай бұрын

    I think you could make videos about anything, and most of us would watch because you have great humor. Cheers!

  • @TheOldManAndTheSaw
    @TheOldManAndTheSaw Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for defending me Michael; I appreciate it. Funny story about that tree and 50 years..........my father planted that tree about 50 years ago and it blew down over the winter. I was able to get 4- 8' logs out of it with the smallest one taking center stage in the famous Wombat Video. The future videos contain more info as the why I am milling such small logs. Dave

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    I will be looking forward to those future videos.

  • @gotwoodinhead6814
    @gotwoodinhead68146 ай бұрын

    One can never go wrong with tacos... even if it is Easter! That tiny tree had some beautiful lumber hiding in It!

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    6 ай бұрын

    Tacos on Easter? I’m going to put in a request for that this year. 😁

  • @RTeBokkel
    @RTeBokkel4 ай бұрын

    I am continually returning here to your channel because of the climate change solutions you provide.

  • @ssprofirewood
    @ssprofirewood Жыл бұрын

    Nice job of explaining why you took that tree down and milled it. You got some good lumber out of it. Thanks for sharing and take care!

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steve. Good to know it came out understandable.

  • @sergeystrizheus3368
    @sergeystrizheus33685 ай бұрын

    Amen to your story. But young people don't want to ask questions this days, they ignorant and whant to tell how to.

  • @dcvariousvids8082
    @dcvariousvids80826 ай бұрын

    Great presentation. I’m coppicing a small public woodland now; owned by a tree orientated charity. Some people come by, (having wandered through half dozen signs along every approach path). And point out or wonder why we’re felling those nice trees, that some volunteers plant 40yrs. ago? And haven’t they all done well and isn’t the growth so, (carbon capturing) thick. Then I spend the next 30mins. explaining why 40yr. old oaks, ash, birch and others, in that particular terrain. Shouldn’t all by 20-40ft. high, with a small tuft of leaves on the top. Some get it, some say they’ll read-up and some of those may actually read-up on it; and some just stare blankly through me. Wondering why I’m seemingly changing a landscape, which nature has created so prettily over thousands of years. While ignoring the fact, that the greater maririty of that pretty landscape, has been nurtured, planted, felled, plowed, selectively grazed or harvested… and yes, cared for by many many generations. Who worked with the land, over a great many more years, than just the last two thousand. And while the people who planted some the pretty trees I’m coppicing and thinning. Probably had the best of intention. Their plant and forget actions, have added to the stock of trees over 40yrs. But has decreased the diversity of habitat. By leaving to grow trees so close, that no light got to ground level and all the trees grew stunted and or thin as beanpoles. Plus the majority would reach maturity at the same age; and be susceptible to age related diseases. Made worse by overcrowding.

  • @somatder
    @somatder4 ай бұрын

    this lumber would make for very nice floor boards, I find that this normal fast grown douglas fir can be a bit soft for a wooden floor and easily gets dents and marks in the floor, but I reckon that this would me much harder and more resilient to use and wear. Beautiful stuff, neverless.

  • @TheOldManAndTheSaw
    @TheOldManAndTheSaw Жыл бұрын

    I was going to comment on the fantastic lumber you got but I'd already commented before. Maybe next time.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Now I'm going to be under pressure to make more fantastic lumber.

  • @gladebrosi6587
    @gladebrosi6587 Жыл бұрын

    You should feel confident to share your wisdom. I appreciate how you defended a good man. I’ve got a lot of respect for you. Please keep it up.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, kind of you to say.

  • @m8s4lif
    @m8s4lif5 ай бұрын

    At 12:30 I saw you do something that you are obviously good at. Good point. I know, you weren't referring to yourself, but it was still fun to insinuate that you are an older man. LOL. From the looks of you, I'm guessing that I am the older man, anyway you look younger. You did a great job of showing and explaining why it was a good idea to take that tree. You are a good teacher. By the way, you were 10 months late at getting me to watch this video. I know that it couldn't have been my fault. Take care.

  • @edwinlikeshistractor8521
    @edwinlikeshistractor8521 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you to my favorite time traveling childish human.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    I have been called worse. 😁 Apparently I’m also not very observant. I just now took a closer look at the second word and your name. All the times before I just glanced at it and thought it was some hard to pronounce European last name. 😂

  • @user-scooter1965
    @user-scooter1965 Жыл бұрын

    Forget all of the naysayers. Manage your forest the way YOU feel is best. Very interesting seeing the growth rings explained on that Doug fir.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Scooter. That is the smart way to deal with the naysayers, but sometimes I like to have a little fun with them along the way.

  • @johnfahey7215
    @johnfahey72155 ай бұрын

    Can’t believe I missed this very informative video. Musta been before I subscribed. anyway thanks 👍

  • @denniswilhelm1316
    @denniswilhelm1316 Жыл бұрын

    We had a big wind storm in 1979 which blew down and snapped off cedar trees and other species. Just last year I helped a neighbor take a cedar off his deck that had snapped out of a larger cedar next to his house. As we were working I yelled thru my skidsteer that the tree was 42 years old. He bucked it off, counted rings….I was dead on…

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Good guess. If you did that and got it right a second time I would suggest you go buy a lottery ticket after that.

  • @chrisbarroca6618
    @chrisbarroca66186 ай бұрын

    I like your practical advice, no nonsense approach and humor. Subscribed! One question: do you have a link for the tape measure in this video? It would be greatly appreciated.

  • @MsdMakingSawDust
    @MsdMakingSawDust Жыл бұрын

    Good video there Sir. Good job on defending Mr.Dave You know there are people out there that run off the mouth not knowing anything about what’s going on. Just because it’s not there way it’s wrong. And I can bet you the ones running off the mouth don’t even own a sawmill. If they did they would realize that the small tree like that has tight grain and is 10 times or more stronger that a larger log. Anyway good job on felling that tree and good job on getting what you got out of it. Thanks for sharing Take care Sir.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @ronharrington228
    @ronharrington228 Жыл бұрын

    I hope you enjoyed making this video as much as I enjoyed watching it. I'm pretty much done with all the negative Ned's out there. You did a good job of exposing the sniveling!!!

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ron. Some are a lot more sniveling than others. Especially over on KZread Shorts.

  • @On_The_Farm
    @On_The_Farm Жыл бұрын

    LOL! I thought you were bucking it all into firewood at first. I love Douglas Fir. One of my favorite woods. Thanks

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    I got on a roll bucking it into firewood but was able to get myself to stop before I got into the good saw log part. It is such a good wood. Even for firewood I think it is under rated. I burn more of it than anything.

  • @bwillan

    @bwillan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WilsonForestLands Looking at the firewood btu charts, Douglas Fir is comparable (or better) to many hardwood species for heat output.

  • @williamwoodfin4077
    @williamwoodfin4077 Жыл бұрын

    I have a grove of hickory that I want to thin out for the same reasons you bring up here! Thanks for justifying me cutting some smaller trees to better the over all forest!

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comment William. I’ve never worked with hickory since we don’t have it out here. I hope it works out well for you. If you want to do more looking into that type of thinning, you could do a search for the term “thinning from below”. That might give you more useful information.

  • @williamwoodfin4077

    @williamwoodfin4077

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WilsonForestLands I live in southeast West Virgina and shagbark hickory is very common, Love it for firewood, but also excited to put some on my mill. I am a greenhorn with milling. I appreciate your videos!

  • @kurtlanford1448
    @kurtlanford14485 ай бұрын

    What is the name of the winch devise on the rear of your tractor? Thanks for the great video, you are a great land steward!

  • @charlesreid2141
    @charlesreid21415 ай бұрын

    Another fantastic video. I learn something from every one of your videos

  • @bendugas8632
    @bendugas8632 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect says it all.

  • @johnnycycle69
    @johnnycycle692 ай бұрын

    Tacos are great for Easter or well any time... funny every huge tree I see in new England Is by itself in a field or a yard.... So yea room to grow is a thing, more water more sun more nutrients has a huge impact on any plant quality of soil is huge all kinds of factors and thinning the herd is huge for proper growth, sawing with sandy doing the exact same thing. he cuts small trees all the time. i prefer small trees easier to handle and safer than the big ones having a 22 inch hardwood at 8 feet get away from you can get nasty.

  • @joeyrector1015
    @joeyrector1015 Жыл бұрын

    I do agree with you on that one.

  • @lpeterman
    @lpeterman Жыл бұрын

    I have no problem with milling smaller diameter logs, most of what I thin on my property and can use on my Timbery M100 are less than 12" DBH. In fact, the only logs I've milled so far greater than 12" were gleaned from the neighbor's wind-throws and leftovers after a clear-cut. So, heck with the nay-sayers! Enjoying your humorous sunscald tongue-twister, will attempt to untwist... Cheers from way up North in Linn County.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Let me know if you manage to accomplish saying it a million times twice.

  • @joegrochowski669
    @joegrochowski669 Жыл бұрын

    great vid thanks for explanations and tip to watch old man and saw,, keep them coming thanks again, ,joe and misty

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Joe and Misty.

  • @waltdelbo6445
    @waltdelbo6445 Жыл бұрын

    Good video thx for sharing. Try not to stress over silly comments and haters. Its a waste of energy. They are like bugs. You can swat at them all day or just ignore them.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Walt. I had to learn a long time ago if you post videos you can’t sweat over the comments. Sometimes I just like to have a little fun with them and use them for fuel for entertainment in my videos.

  • @stefflus08
    @stefflus083 ай бұрын

    Again dunno about your trees, but for Norway Spruce and Pine the smaller rings is optimal. 0.5 to 1.5mm. Spruce can go infinitely small withput hurting anything, but our Pine gets problems with inter-ring integrity below 0.5mm

  • @davidsauer8072
    @davidsauer8072 Жыл бұрын

    Well said!

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @grizz2702
    @grizz2702 Жыл бұрын

    When I first started framing in the 70s we had a lot of tight grain wood like that ...it doesn't warp and bow as much and is more structurally sound....I don't know what it takes to grow tight grain like that but I sure do wish we had it like that still for framing

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes slow growing trees to make tight grain. It does make better quality wood. But most of us don’t have the patience or life expectancy to wait for the slow growing trees to make the wood.

  • @jeanpomerleau8416
    @jeanpomerleau8416 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice :)

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @gboz4245
    @gboz4245 Жыл бұрын

    Where I live we have 90 year old tamarack only 10-12” at the butt. Burns hot as lava , blue flame it will warp your stove if your not careful .

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    We don’t have tamarack here so I don’t have any experience with it. Tight grained Douglas fir burns hot but not as hot as what you are describing. Mostly yellow flame. I like the looks of the western Tamarack in the fall. I would like to try cutting into one but the closest ones are on the other side of the state.

  • @nickcollins4268
    @nickcollins42685 ай бұрын

    Here's a question, genuinely interested in answer, I am up in eastern Canada. One of the things forestry wants use to do is leave some dead standing wood ( bigger better according to them) they say they're beneficial to wildlife (mostly birds I think) Is this ever a consideration in your area?

  • @Andrew-sanders
    @Andrew-sanders Жыл бұрын

    I mill almost nothing but red cedar if it's 6 inches small end it goes on the mill. To big for most people as a fence post yet to small to send to a big mill so would normally go in the burn pile

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s where those of us ha who have small mills have an advantage. We can take advantage of material the big mills can’t or won’t.

  • @zookeeper94558
    @zookeeper945587 ай бұрын

    I see you carry a fire extinguisher... any suggestions on a good one? I believe you must be in Southern Oregon or Northern California looking at the trees on your forest so my question is how has the drought changed your logging? and do you have a timber management plan? ( I am NOT with the government) LOL!! just a curious old man...

  • @harrym2555
    @harrym25553 күн бұрын

    Is there any way to determine growth rate without cutting down the tree?

  • @TheOldManAndTheSaw
    @TheOldManAndTheSaw Жыл бұрын

    I saw one of your firewood rounds escaping down the hill. Were you able to recapture it? We can't have escaped rounds just wandering around the countryside.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually it was much worse than that. There were 3 of them that escaped. I think the camera missed two of them. Two of them were caught at the base of a tree. The other one, I think got caught up in some slash. But until I go down there and verify, be on the lookout.

  • @bwillan
    @bwillan Жыл бұрын

    Small trees also produce your posts and beams rather easily.

  • @WilsonForestLands

    @WilsonForestLands

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep I may do some things in the future with round wood. These would be good for that.

  • @bwillan

    @bwillan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WilsonForestLands I was trying to convey that if you have 4x4 and larger posts and beams to mill up, those can/should come from the smallest diameter tree that will yield that size. It's more efficient use of the trees. Similarly, if you need a bunch of small sized lumber, those should come from some of your biggest logs to maximize yield.

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