Such underrated video, love the genuine and personal vibe you have doing this comparison. Refreshing compared to all other KZreadrs out there - Keep it up Tim, this was awesome!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Your visual comparison is more accessible to me than a text comparison. I now have a real sense of the performance boost offered by the M2 machine.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, yeah that's what I was wanting to find too online but couldn't really

Excellent tests. Just what I was looking for. Thanks

@squircle-design

9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I must say a perfect comparison video. Good job mate! this helped a lot.

@squircle-design

10 ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

Thank you for taking the time to do this. The best performance test I've seen. Actually something relevant!

@squircle-design

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

quick, no bs, no wasting time, showed real world differences. I love this man already, u got a new subscriber

Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison. I left the video but came back to give it a thumbs up. Lol

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Great comparison! I've used i9 intel for my main laptop and I just booked m2 max 16inch. Your video made me not to regret my decision Thank you :)

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Absolutely brilliant video. As a developer, I thought that the i9 could last me for 5-10 years, but I immediately noticed that it wasn't very snappy compared to a moderate PC laptop running Windows/Linux. It overheats and slows down if I don't turn on the AC. I connect two 4K monitors every day, so I appreciate that you compared the monitor setup speed. I also love how you showed Windows emulation performance and Xcode/JS compile times. I'm curious about Docker performance, but I assume it's probably improved with the M2 as well. Brilliant. I hope your channel grows in views/subs. There aren't many developer-centric videos for bleeding-edge MacBooks.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan, much appreciated! Glad you liked it

@jmtake85

Жыл бұрын

why t fu u need 2 4k 😮

@sonarun

Жыл бұрын

FInally someone did a real world test instead of stupid benchmarks. Also, finally someone compared the i9 to the M2 for those of us who didn't want to run 1st generation CPUs.

@TheDanteSTV

Жыл бұрын

i am very interesting what you develop what for you m2 is very helpful

@NervousNoodles

Жыл бұрын

I've got a similar setup as you. I've got dual 27" 4k monitors (the Dell UlstraSharp ones) I plug the same laptop (i9 16" 2019 MBP) into every day, at the office. I also have the same setup at home. Connecting the laptop to the monitors and having the laptop wake up the monitors, switch them and reorganize everything is quite a ceremonious thing involving several screen flickers as seen in the video. Same drama if I switch to / from clamshell mode. Sometimes I'll get a Kernel panic and the whole system freezes and I'm forced to reboot. Seeing the M2 switch instantly blows my mind. I was also thinking I'd have this laptop for a good 8 years but I'm starting to hesitate.

I had an i9, worst buy ever, now got a M1 Max… fantastic. M1 can deliver 9 hours real world use, i9 can eat its battery in 2 hrs

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

It's awesome eh :)

@crearg8259

Жыл бұрын

Don’t tell me the facts that I already know😭I really wish I didn’t get the Jet engine version MaxBook Pro…Is your M1 Max 16 inch or 14 inch? Does the fan spin?

@marcusoutdoors4999

Жыл бұрын

I have the 16inch Max with 24 core 32gb RAM 2TB SSD. Extremely fast and silent. Fan never spins or if it does I can’t hear it. That’s when running main screen + external 34 monitor, say 100 tabs on Safari and photoshop processing 60mp photos and Microsoft office running. Trust me the Max chips are a different world… oh and it never gets hot. That said, I am so impressed with the performance I do wonder if the new M2 15 inch MacBook Air coming out very soon would do the job. Anyway you can buy safe in the knowledge that an M1 is all you need and in some configs is better than the M2 which is also fabulous. Basically all very very good.

@FlorinMC

Жыл бұрын

Dude the battery on your i9 macbook is 4 yeas old! 😂 The "isheep" mentality... I have the same macbook 16" i9, 32gb ram, 2tb ssd, 8gb vram and still have 6 hours of use. I will see us on 2030 comparing the i9 9th gen fom that macbook with the latest M15 Max...

@marcusoutdoors4999

Жыл бұрын

Don’t believe you, unless you’re just doing non taxing tasks like coding. From new the minute the graphics card engaged, the fan was on the thing got hot and ate its battery. So completely unsuitable for CAD, photo/video editing etc where intensive work would kill the battery from new on 150 mins. Doing the same work a MAX chip will get 7-8 hrs out of the same 100 W/hr battery. As a business we never had any similar problems with any of our other MacBook Pros with our 2010 model i5 15.4 inch still running fine for light duties though the battery only lasts about 5 hrs. The i9 was a massive fail as was the power hungry graphics card, both the end of the line for a very old technology pathway. Hopefully Intel will catch up.

Thank You. 1st Trial. Was pretty easy to follow through!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Great!

That blew up my mind man! It was helpful 🙌🏽

@squircle-design

8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Thanks a lot, was thinking about an upgrade and this video made me confident about my decision, thanks a lot!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Great comparison, thank you.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Great video! Especially the VM compare!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks!

Excellent video, thanks. This is so much more useful than just numbers on a chart for me. I have the 2019 MBP and am trying to decide whether to upgrade now, or put up with waiting 20 minutes to compile my app until the M3 MBP inevitably comes out. It looks like a huge jump!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

You won’t be disappointed to buy now I suspect. I wouldn’t expect a huge jump between M2 and M3, just like there wasn’t much between M1 and M2.

@leowei874

10 ай бұрын

agree ! and m1 cheap @@squircle-design

Best video comparison and exactly everything I’ve experienced with the i9. Looks like I’m going to picking up the M2 max sooner than I anticipated.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Awesome and apologies for helping you spend money sooner than later haha

@rzalamea

Жыл бұрын

same...exact...conclusion lol

@RSTirendi

Жыл бұрын

I bought my M2 Max and have had it about 6 weeks now. My jaw is still on the floor… no BS… it is ridiculous. I compiled some code and literally thought the machine malfunctioned or the compiler broke due to bad code. I am not kidding. And forget about video renders… I don’t even think twice about it. In the past I had to schedule renders based around 1. Power availability, 2. Other tasks on the computer that I needed to work on, 3. Fan noise (depending on where I was), and 4. Do I have the time to wait for it to finish. This machine is life changing for those that push our systems. And this is coming from a fully max’d out i9. Wow! I’m so glad that I didn’t wait for the (once again delayed) M3. By the way, the battery life and screen are ALSO incredible. Zero compromises and all upside.

@PureGlide

Жыл бұрын

@@RSTirendi Awesome glad it worked out so well for you!

thanks so much for the video. I decided to get my m2max after watching your comparison. thanks.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Oh, hi Tim! I didn't know you had another channel besides Pure Glide, and just randomly ran upon this today when researching an upgrade for my work Macbook. Good comparison!

@squircle-design

9 ай бұрын

Oh hai! Thanks :) wait until you see my van channel haha

@robeckel4965

9 ай бұрын

@@squircle-design I haven't gotten into the van YT channels yet, but if you ever make a sailboat channel, I'll be there in a heartbeat! A camper van would be really nice to haul my glider to contests, though...

Thank you for this comparison, its precise and a good buying review.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

My 2019 16" MBP is running very high CPU and watching your video has me convinced I need to just upgrade. Amazing.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yip highly recommended!

@ChrisTingom

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design Follow up: I got the MBP M2 16" Pro level and LOVE it! I can have 2 external monitors again, watch a video, and be on a Zoom meeting and my fan doesn't even run. It's amazing.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Awesome glad you're happy with it, like I am too :)

Good comparison, thanks! :)

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I had the i9 machine. I couldn’t believe how slow it was - and that was before Apple silicon. It was supposed to be a flagship machine and it was painfully slow, hot and loud. The fans would spin up just booting the machine. I upgraded to the M1 Pro 16 inch and it was amazingly fast. Best laptop I have ever had.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

One thing that can cause that is too much dust in the fans! I cleaned mine out a few times...

@macmuchmore1

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design Mine was that way from day 1. I always kept it clean. Just a terrible machine.

@Kitesurfing_OZ

Жыл бұрын

@@macmuchmore1 I went to the Apple store after 1 Week to check if everything is ok with the MBP, as it would just keep the fans running using google chrome not even video rendering so sad

@maksymfedenko1153

Жыл бұрын

Heh, I'm still on i9 macbook :)

@Kitesurfing_OZ

Жыл бұрын

@@maksymfedenko1153 I'm still on i7 😉

Good Test! Thank you!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

For the laptop getting warm in the bag: Apparently when it goes into standby while it's still powered, it thinks it can do stuff like updates after falling asleep - because the "am I plugged in" circuit doesn't update with the lid closed. So unplug first, sleep second - that should help to avoid that effect. Windows laptops have a similar issue. I have the same two laptops and my experience is almost identical. The M2 is a beast! I still use the i9 for stuff like YT watching or web browsing. For anything that needs real power, I'm so happy with the M2 that doesn't even turn on the fans a lot of the time, when the i9 would already be afraid overheating and start throttling the CPU.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Interesting re order of putting the laptop to sleep, thanks for that!

great test skipping the rubbish ! i love your pure glide channel, nice to see your second one about tech

@squircle-design

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Ewan! More to come at some stage...

I'm glad the slow external display activation wasn't just me 😂. The heat generated by watching a KZread video with the 16" i9 on my lap is unbearable. My M2 should be arriving this week, and you've raised my confidence I made the right decision. Also hoping the WiFi is more stable on the M's - wondering if you've noticed a difference.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

I think you'll be very happy

@josedanielsacoto5182

Жыл бұрын

We are waiting for the update...

@chrisboyce3109

Жыл бұрын

It does not disappoint. After a few weeks of typical office work, including Zoom meetings, Windows 11 on Parallels, etc, driving two external monitors (5K and 2K) on top of its own screen, I think the fans have come on maybe twice, and even then at the lowest speed (mostly inaudible) and only for a short time. It's always cool to the touch, and needless to say, runs laps around the i9 in terms of speed. With 64GB and the Max chip, this was not cheap, but I feel like I got a LOT more per dollar/pound this time than with the i9. I think even the keyboard is improved, WiFi is dropping way less if at all, no more lag when connecting/disconnecting monitors, and I don't miss the touch bar one bit. Extremely happy.

@yournemesis192

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with the i9 version? It looks like a Pentium 4 from 2002. I'm using a much older i7 MacBook that runs basic apps just fine. Definitely not as slow as the i9

Thanks for the share

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Would LOVE to see this same performance review with your 2019 intel Macbook Pro vs Macbook Pro M3 Pro when you can!

What is the battery time and efficiency compared to an unplugged xps 15 is it a major reduction in terms of power,batterry and performance? Also how different when running windows on mac? Thanks

Very interesting! Oh wait it's my video haha

I love my i9 MacBook Pro and sincerely looks much faster than yours, it’s incredibile compared to other Intel version but the m2 max is another planet

@hawk19085

Жыл бұрын

Penso che tu abbia un sistema operativo precedente a quello del test. Idem nel mio caso. Poi per esempio non uso Parallels ma Bootcamp (che non è possibile con gli Mx ).

Fantastic real life test. I am also using 2019 mac and would like to switch. I always wanted to see a test for Windows tools. It would be interestin to check how Power BI is doing on new mac, since I normally develop data solutions. Maybe idea for future videos. What do you recommend? 32 or maybe 64 gb for windows? Thnx

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Depends what you want to run in windows for the RAM! The actual OS doesn't use TOO much.

Hey, I´m in the market for a Macbook and in my budget i could either go full out on the M2 Air or the MBP you tested. The air would be the base 13" (which is a bit small) and its bottlenecked by the 8gb ram and im not sure for which one to go, as the i9 seems like a more "pro" and quirky laptop (touchbar aso). What would you recommend?

External display test was very helpful. Wonder if you can run off the power delivery on the lg display whilst maxing out cores?

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

I primarily run the laptop off a 60W power supply when not plugged into the display, and haven't noticed ANY battery going backwards. This thing just sips power. You'd have to be really pushing the graphics, and CPU, and charging it, all at the same time

@JoshNorris737

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design helpful to know. Thanks. Cause I run into this problem on the same intel spec 16inch you demonstrated.

And it's all in a camper van haha sweet. Thank you! Very clear.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes :)

Good video

Hey. I'm a student with the i9 Mac, and was wondering whether to get the 16 inch M2 Pro? Only want the MBP for the Pro motion display.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

The display is lovely :) I personally love the pro motion. If you can afford it, go for it! You won't be disappointed, just broke.

M2 is off the charts Bro. Up there. By the way, I think I hadn't seen Parallels in action😊

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

Jesus! It’s amazing just how much snappier things are. My windows gaming machine just ate its 2nd NVMe drive and it’s nearly impossible to get a working windows USB without a windows machine. I literally had to run windows in a VM on my 2017 i5 MacBook w/ 8GB OF RAM to make one… After that debacle and realizing I haven’t really been gaming so much, I decided to test drive the 2017 as a daily driver. I want to be sure I can live solely with macOS before I spend real money. Thanks for video. It’s nice to get an idea of what the day to day performance difference would be like.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful, cheers

Hey that Windows software you're running "SeeYou", is it an x86 application running on the Arm version of Windows or did you have to get the Arm version of that windows software?

@squircle-design

7 ай бұрын

Hi it’s an x86 app, no chance they’ll be making an arm Version anytime soon. So that’s running in the Windows x86 emulation mode (equivalent to Rosetta on the Mac)

@mmarsbarr

7 ай бұрын

@@squircle-design can any x86 app run in this Emulation mode ? I run data software like SQL server, power Bi and Cognos. This is the one thing stopping me from upgrading my intel based Mac so when I saw your video with an x86 app running on Windows arm my eyes lit up.

What is the name of the program you use to open windows program on macbook?

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Parallels Desktop to run windows, and the app I was testing was an app called SeeYou

Nice video comparison. But does it also takes into account other HW, for example hard drive? Additionally would be nice to see comparison of such tasks as "npm" together with "time" util to understand why it is so slower.

@squircle-design

4 ай бұрын

There are plenty of benchmark videos, or stats and specs videos online to show that stuff, this was to show real world difference

...real world - THX !!

Thanks for the unique and practical review. My company gave me a 14" m2 max recently - it's a beast! I have a 2019 16" i9 personally. I think it's time for an upgrade. The improved display handling should allow me to decommission my iMac and simply run everything off the m2 with an external display. BTW I'm curious about your RAM and SSD configuration. There's some bandwidth variation depending on what you have.

@PKperformanceEU

Жыл бұрын

why a 14inch?? That's the dumbest move possible...Either get a 12/19 14inch or a max 16.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I upgraded to the the 2TB SSD, and it came with the default 32GB RAM for the higher end model. Cheers

@PKperformanceEU

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design I said there is no logic behind getting a 14inch with the m2max. It doesn't get the full TDP. And a real man chooses the 16inch anyways. M1max 16inch 64gb going strong here, tho i'm upgrading to a UHD xps9730 4080.

@jameslevine6137

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design Thanks. I'm not sure how they populate the boards for the various configurations (do you know?), but I did see that the specs double the ssd bandwidth when all spots are populated, I assume because of the wiring of PCI lanes. I guess the ram chips are about the same with memory channels. I'm really loving the 14" for maintaining a modicum of portability while still being able to leave the power adapter at home. But for my home machine that 16" is looking pretty juicy. Your review answered more of the questions I had than most of the others, great job!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

awesome sounds good!

I absolutely should not have watched this. I’m running pretty close to the same Intel MacBook (i9 with 32GB mem and 2TB SSD). I guess I knew it was increasingly slow and clunky (partly reflecting increased resource demands from apps and OS). But, you nailed it. The differences are far more dramatic than you we’ve come to expect based on 3 years and a couple of generations. It’s still challenge to consider the costs involved and I suspect the re-sell on my 2019 will also be impacted the improvements in the M1 and M2 machines. Since transitioning from Windows to MacOS a little over ten years ago, I’ve generally waited 4 years or more to upgrade but the performance differences were never this dramatic.

@squircle-design

10 ай бұрын

One thing to check is that your current laptop isn't full of dust, open it up and blow it out clean, might help a bit :) otherwise yes it's SO much faster and better

ok, something is definitely wrong here. I have the i9 Macbook Pro 2019 (32GB/2TB) and I've tested it just with this video (pressing the buttons simultaneously). I have many apps on my machine, so it may affect the result, and it's still on Catalina. Nonetheless, here are my observations: shutdown is like 2-3 seconds faster than on your i9. Startup until the login screen is significantly faster (even faster than on M2!), but after entering passcode it really slows down, so in summary my i9 boots not much sooner than yours. Photoshop and Illustrator loading is almost the same, maybe a little bit faster than your i9 (after first launch/closing they begin to load noticeably faster). Connecting to external 4k display and 'clamp shell mode' is much faster, without any strange flickering (almost just like on m2). And wake from sleep is instant! (checked it many times) I'm not sure why your i9 is different, probably because of newer versions of MacOS - I suppose Apple did nothing to optimise them for Intel. If so, that's sad, because Adobe already forces Catalina users to update the OS :(

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

interesting thanks for testing! The difference might be the 5k display, instead of a 4k display for the sleep stuff. Also I did have a lot of background apps installed which would have slowed startup a bit. Also there was definitely something wrong with the disk, as each boot it was doing a disk check which I think was making it very slow to boot to mac os. After a format and fresh install it was fine again for booting. So yeah not a great test really, no doubt others aren't so problematic...

I'm using MacBook Pro 2019(Intel i9 2.3GHz, Radeon 5500M(8GB), 32GB of memory) and considering buying a MacBook Pro M2 Max, so this video is so helpful for me. It's really fantastic for the speed to connect the External 5K Display. (Because I'm using three external displays almost every moment.) I'll buy a MacBook Pro M2 Max next week. Thanks for your video comparing it.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Great stuff, I’m glad the video was useful! You’ll love the m2

HOLY HELL! The M2 Max is SUPERB!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Sure is!

My i9 maxed out mbp boots up in a split second. It's still pristine and thinner and notchless beautiful beast. I'll wait for the M6 thanks. 😅

@squircle-design

9 ай бұрын

fair enough!

I can’t be sure if the 2019 model is slow, because intel or macOS version. I mean, the newer macOS versions have introduced new things that make a little bit slow than previous versions. In other hand, I had intel MacBooks it was very often to heard the fans on high rpm. Always warm or even I remember when I had to restart to workaround with some background apps that uses high percentages of processor. All of theses issues happened me on MacBook Air 2015, MacBook Pro 13 2015 and especially on MacBook Pro 13 2020. Now, I have a MacBook 14 m1 pro and I’m still facing temperatures issues, sometimes, it gets warm and for some reason the fans keeps 2000 rpm. It is quiet but why doesn’t try to cool more often.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah note in my video I hadn’t yet upgraded the 2019 MacBook Pro to Ventura.

@GlobalWave1

Жыл бұрын

It’s because apple tends to want to keep computer quiet at the expense of getting the laptop warm. I use tp pro to override the MacBook fan curve and use my own fan curve. It’ll kick the fans in to keep laptop cooler faster. Then again I have to MacBook Pro m2 max 16. Those tend to stay cooler than the 14.

I want to ask how M1/2 works with Docker? I have i9 and building C++ project in Docker takes too long (more than 10 times slower than my Linux laptop on i7).

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I'm not a docker expert, haven't tried it yet on the m2. I bet it would be faster :)

This is a great video on the difference between Intel’s processor design vs Apple’s.

@akin242002

Жыл бұрын

Well not really. A modern Intel CPU would be the i9 13th gen H series. The one used in this video was 8th gen Intel CPU. M2 Pro CPU came out in 2022 and optimized for the 14/16 inches in 2023.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It’s not really about comparing chips Mr Berry, there are plenty of benchmarks for that. This is comparing an intel MacBook Pro to a M2 MacBook Pro in general use. Simple as that!

@MrSamPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

@@akin242002 I know there are plenty of Intel fans out there as I used to be one. But core for core, clock for clock, and at the same power consumption Apple’s design is superior.

@akin242002

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSamPhoenix One thing in Apple's favor is limited designs to worry about. Mac mini, Mac studio, Macbook Air, Mackbook Pro, and Imacs. 5 Total. Easier to optimize battery life and performance with less manufacturing product designs to build CPUs around. Intel or AMD are trying to cater to far too many designs, so it leads to less optimization. Something gets sacrificed in the process. In most cases, it is either heat management or battery Iife.

@MrSamPhoenix

Жыл бұрын

@@akin242002 that’s true to a certain extent. ARM is just more efficient by the nature of it’s design. It’s why we use it for smartphones and such. And keep in mind that manufacturers of windows laptops have access to Intel and AMD to better optimize for things like battery life. Plus, look at this video as it’s the very best example of how Intel’s design fall behind Apple’s. At the beginning of all this Apple wanted Intel to design something that could be used in an iPhone, Intel said “no” and the rest is history.

Oh lord. Now I'm a believer

What is that app up on the taskbar that monitors CPU?

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Hi that's iStat menus, cheers!

This is the type of video I've been looking for for so long, Thank you you've just earned a subscriber. And Apple another $2000...bloody hell man 😂

@squircle-design

10 ай бұрын

Haha great to hear and sorry about your wallet

Do you think buying the M2 is a good idea if I need a laptop. I have the same laptop specs as the i9 in the video. Please make more videos on comparisons

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah an m1 or m2 will be a fantastic upgrade for most people. Depends what you're doing of course, whether you need an m2 Air, or an m2 MacBook Pro

Great video but i feel like it’s a pretty unfair test with the machines running on battery. Puts the i9 at a disadvantage since all intel laptops drop performance dramatically when on battery. Do you have a video with both machines on power?

I have a iMac 27inch 5k which I use only for PS and LR and have been thinking of chopping it in for the pro m2 or now the m3 pro as the iMac is to bulky and cannot travel obviously. What the feed back on this please as I have found your illustrations of the apple products the best so far and easy to understand📸👍🍺🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Currently have an i7 MacBook Pro laptop and amazed at how much faster Apple silicon is

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Awesome eh :)

is there that much difference between the m2 max and m1 max ? and how does the m1 max compare to the 2019 i9 MPB ?

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Not sure sorry as I haven't had an M1, but the M1 and M2 aren't too different in speed

@thomashorner7141

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design thanks, i've love to see a blender comparison of Evee renders between the i9 the m2 mac, thanks ! currently thinking about moving to a 64gb m1 max from an ai9 64gb MPB but not sure if it's worth waiting for the m3 ...

Hey, I just got an m2 max macbook pro and it has a yellowish screen like yours on this video! Even with true tone OFF, it shows still yellowish like yours compared to i9 macbook pro. It's really frushtinating. Do you think it's normal? Even in photoshop, lightroom... the whites are yellow. I can clearly see that your m2 max has the same issue as well! i9 looks more natural and better in color accuracy. Please kindly let me know if there is a fix for it. Appreciate already! :)

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Hi some things to check: 1) Yes make sure true tone is off, and make sure it hasn't for some reason got stuck 'on'. 2) Under settings -> Displays -> make sure the "Preset" is set to "Apple XDR" 3) Check Night Shift isn't on. I didn't even notice it to be honest! I see it now on the windows example in particular, but be aware that could also be a difference between VMWareFusion and Parallels? Haven't thought it's a problem in general myself. Cheers!

@personaldevelopment2237

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design thanks for your reply but none of those ways fixes it at all. I returned it and waiting for the replacement nee device from apple. Even apple admitted the problem on the phone and agreed on money back. Some says the problem is the glue behind of the screen, some says the manufacturer, some says the true tone sensor still works even when it turned off... there are tons of people experienced the same on reddit as well. You can check! hope the replacement new device won't this problem. Thanks in advance!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

@@personaldevelopment2237 Interesting thanks for the info, hopefully that helps someone else.

at 6:01, I'd have given real money if you just slipped in "and don't call me Shirley". LOL

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Haha mission accepted for the next video

Makes me want to upgrade, but makes me feel even worse about thinking I should have spec’d out my 15” under the expectation it would last 7-8 years. It did, for what is worth, feel like an upgrade from my base 13” pro. I’ve edited 4K multi cam sequences on it, but you need to proxy everything appropriately and get used to using a global fx mute or at least remove color grading for it to be doable. I might have to try my workflow on someone’s m2 to see if it’s worth it after my 3k laptop is now 700$ and falling.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s unfortunate the value drop of intel Mac’s due to the new chips. Luckily an architecture change is very rare!

holly molly omg just like comparing night and day i own an intel i9MBP 2019 (my first ever) i was happy with it , and i've been closing my eyes on some stuff heat and fan noise , but seeing the M2 pro performance OMG i think i'm going to sell it to get at least an M1 pro, because dude really it's incomparable especially productivity-wise

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Sorry!

@Djazeiry

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design even if it cost a fortune i will do my best to get one

that flight path on the right looks a little funny.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

I just purchased an almost brand new 2019 16” MacBook Pro with the i9 and 8GB Vega 16 Chip. What GPU does your Intel MacBook Pro have?

@Alex.Hilman

9 ай бұрын

🛑Hello! I wanna buy a good long life laptop. But I'm stuck between Macbook pro 2019 core i9 16 inch and Asus TUF core i7 12700H with rtx 3050. Could you please help me choose the best? Thanks a lot.

The M2 Pro has made me a believer. My only complaint about the MBP M2 Pro is that the camera lacks a privacy mode and the displays are very very easy to break.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Good points, cheers

@PKperformanceEU

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't break if you are a grown adult. I guess you better get mature by training and being disciplined

@philipodinakachi

7 ай бұрын

​@@PKperformanceEUthis is a very silly thing to say

hi, can you try bootcamp on mac 2019 vs m2 parallel?

@squircle-design

7 ай бұрын

Sorry you can't run bootcamp on M1, M2 or any other M series chips. Only Parallels, running an ARM version of windows.

I didn't have to watch any further than 1:43 once I heard him groan waiting for the the login of the 2019 machine. I've made my decision.

in my undersatanding, the intel one on external display flickers because it has 2 different GPUs in in and when you connect it to an external graphic card it switch its display output from intel hd graphics to AMD, and that causes that flickering. and for M2 Max it has the all in one CPU/GPU so no switching GPU thing makes it easier and faster for system to do the job

@DesignerZam

Жыл бұрын

Hd to comment because I am a fan of intel, coz I own 2019 MacBook pro, I know M2 is beast I haven't tried it yet and couldn't try it anytime sooner because I cannot affor it right now, and me supporting intel is like there is a saying "It's easy to despise what you cannot have." my vote is for Intel 🤣

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

makes sense!

I have a big doubt. How you have Monterey on the M2 Pro? I thought the M2 Pro came starting with Ventura and forwad.. ..

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah did I say something else? I think it came with Ventura too

@Nuevex

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design ohh my bad !. I truly though was Monterey cause the background image is the same as default in Monterey. Yeah 😎 my apologies 🙏🏼

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

@@Nuevex ah ha yes sorry I should have kept the default wallpapers :)

@Nuevex

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design I was looking over google if M2 pro could support Monterey and I found couple articles asking the same question. For some reason your video was suggested and when I saw the background automatically I assumed was Monterey. My apologies 🙏🏼 btw great content. Keep forward 👍🏼

I have the last 2019 MacBook Pro and wondering if I should upgrade to M3 Max now.

@squircle-design

7 ай бұрын

Yip! The m3 will be awesome :)

@mrti3

2 ай бұрын

I found it may be worth keeping if you want to run windows like old games, or older intel based programs.

I don’t know what you did with i9 MBP but my i7 MBP 16 bootup few times faster with enabled FileVault then yours with disabled FileVault.

@Mrludwig886

3 ай бұрын

That’s the comment i was looking for, i bought one fews days ago, they didn’t ship it already but after this video i was ready to cancel the order😂😂😂😂

I wanted to boot kali linix on my m1 but unfortunately i couldnt.

That issue with the Intel MacBook getting hot and draining the battery while it's supposed to be in sleep mode is evidently a problem that plagues most modern laptops. I don't know why, exactly, but I've seen some videos about it, because I noticed it on my own i9. I'm guessing that the M2 will have a similar problem, but I don't know for sure. I think it's more of a software issue. It also happens with Windows laptops.

@squircle-design

8 ай бұрын

I'm sure earlier intel MacBooks didn't have that issue though??

@tomgroth3455

7 ай бұрын

I have an original surface pro x that I bought about the same time as this 2019 MacBook was released. It drains like that these days but didn’t at launch. It would sleep properly. Don’t have time to figure out why. I just know I never had to charge it when I first bought it and pulled it out of my bag to work. And now I always do.

Damn😮!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

...straight

There's some context to be added to the shutdown/startup time. The M1/2/3 chips are "cheating" by not actually turning off, but rather entering a deep hibernation. The intel Macs suspends the tasks to the SSD while the M1/2/3 chips suspend to memory, the reaosn they can do this and the intel can't is because of increased energy efficiency, so it is still the advantage of the M1/2/3 macs. If you want to truly turn off the M-series macs you'll need to either hold the power button in, or drain the battery completely.

I never understood why people think laptop is all about premiere, Photoshop and Lightroom! actually I never interested in these softwares, my field of work needs CSI (Etabs, SAP, SAFE), Staad Pro, Tekla Structures, Bentley Softwares, Autocad civil 3D and so many of them is not available in mac os. Is it possible for you to check if ARM version of windows on M2 can run CSI Etabs for example ?

@squircle-design

9 ай бұрын

Probably because that's what people who make videos use a lot of...

Because of your video I can never ever buy an Intel Macbook anymore.

@squircle-design

11 ай бұрын

Good decision!

Can tell both laptop applications are different, should first formate both then same install software both then test will be exact result!

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

yeah this was just my experience, not a scientific test :)

Interesting to see docker tests results with intel Mac plugged in…

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

The problem with Docker is many containers will be for intel, so run under emulation. So it's a bit complicated... www.ginkgobioworks.com/2022/07/19/using-docker-on-apple-silicon/

@TiaDzn

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design Does virtualization make it slower?

My 2017 mbp on a 7820hq seems to do all these things faster than that i9. Weird.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I seem to remember my older intel macs didn't used to have the wake from sleep delay among other things...

The most epic thing is than even MacBook Air with M1 would work much faster that the fastest MBPro with an Intel chip :)

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

That is epic :)

Absicht vom Apfel?😇

Omg Intel macs need to be pluged in to electrically powered to compare their performance.

@squircle-design

7 ай бұрын

Nah the Mac intel machines have always performed the same. It’s only other pc brands that do that.

The fan on the i9 is LOUD lol

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

It sure is! They made the m2 fans sounds a bit nicer too (I think they distribute the noise over more frequencies)

M2 MacBook has Ram also powerful.

I had intel and I was so frustrated I switched too the M1 Max 32gb ram and just like omfg it’s so fast insanity it’s faster then I can think.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah so worth it!

Your test looked somehow fun. Comparing 2019 with 2023? Booting up a relatively old, stuffed version of win 11 on intel vs a cleaner, fresh-looked one on m2. Yeah yeah, we all now m2 is fast. I just look for a fairer comparison for chip leap. Which definitely yours isn't. Need to explain more? 😄

I was planning on upgrading my MB i7 to i9. After watching this video I think I should break the bank for M2

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yip don’t waste your money on i9, the performance difference will be minimal. Better to get a cheap M1 or M2 air or something, over an i9

@ebensakyi

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design thanks

Well, I think you could boost the i9 using a previous MacOS and for Windows using bootcamp.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

I don't think previous OS's would have fixed most of these speed issues, however yes windows was nice and fast on bootcamp as expected, as it's running completely natively.

@kianhendrick3794

Жыл бұрын

@@squircle-design 100% sure ! It works way faster with Catalina !

fastest Adobe software starts I have ever seen...

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Worth it just for that :)

While its fair to say that the M2 2023 MBP should perform noticably faster in all tests than an otherwise 4+ year older MBP with similar specs but intel. The thing to keep in mind which he did quickly say in the Windows app opening that the 2019 machine has more apps loaded on it and of course it would. It’s a 4+ year old machine. Would this affect start up and shut down of the machine and its apps? Of course it would. Apps that start and shut down in the background affect the overall performance simple fact. I have the 2019 MBP, and I bet if he’d restored to factory spec with same apps loaded as the M2 the time differences would be a fair site closer than in these tests. Not a fair comparison in my opinion, and I love the new M2 macbooks. But I have the 2019 and its still rolling much better than his “tests" showed.

@Alex.Hilman

9 ай бұрын

🛑Hi! I wanna buy a good long life laptop. But I'm stuck between Macbook pro 2019 core i9 16 inch and Asus TUF core i7 12700H with rtx 3050. Could you please help me choose the best? Thanks a lot.

@KLW50ish

9 ай бұрын

@@Alex.Hilman I can’t speak to the ASUS laptop, but I can say I had the core I9 16 that you’re speaking of. Speakers are incredible! For the most part and for most tasks this is a great laptop with a fine bright screen. Keyboard to me is awesome. That’s all I got.

@Alex.Hilman

9 ай бұрын

@@KLW50ish Thanks for your feedback Kevin I want to know Is there any throttling or lack of performance owing to overheating on MacBook pro 16 inch 2019? Because I can buy an ASUS with a core i5 12 generation (12500H) which is much newer and cheaper than this MacBook pro. I want to be sure that I don't waste my money on this.

at this stage anything without Apple silicon is a hackintosh

Something is clearly wrong with your Intel MacBook from the beginning. Booting up does not take that long. I have an I9 Intel MacBook Pro 16" and it boots up in seconds; I would say maybe 2 or 3 seconds slower than the Silicon version.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yeah shouldn't be as slow as it was on mine. Probably something wrong with the disk, and it was checking it each boot. A clean install fixed it, when I sold it.

@Alex.Hilman

9 ай бұрын

🛑Hi! I wanna buy a good long life laptop. But I'm stuck between Macbook pro 2019 core i9 16 inch and Asus TUF core i7 12700H with rtx 3050. Could you please help me choose the best? Thanks a lot.

My MBP16", maxed out i9, 32GB RAM is making me crazy. I am using it with an Elgato Thunderbolt 3 dock for a 4K + 1080p display setup, and it's constantly overheating even with 20% CPU usage. Worst buy I ever did. Hope I can sell it to get an M2 cause this thing is making me rage everyday.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Yip you’ll be very happy with the upgrade.

@Alex.Hilman

9 ай бұрын

🛑Hi! I wanna buy a good long life laptop. But I'm stuck between Macbook pro 2019 core i9 16 inch and Asus TUF core i7 12700H with rtx 3050. Could you please help me choose the best? Thanks a lot.

The comparison makes no sense, given that the machines are years apart. Opening / closing apps is not how performance is measured. OS plays a part, too. I have been using both the 2019s Intel MacBooks and the M2s, The M2s are better, but at the end of the day you have an OS, silicon and hardware designed to work together, which is not the case with the Intel chips.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

Hi it's more about what's it like to actually use day to day I was trying to convey. And this is the upgrade many people are doing. So makes perfect sense to compare them I would have thought?!

Posiadam Macbook Air 2016 , 4 ram , 128 gb ssd, ekran retina 400 nits, wciaz dziala slizy jako zapasowy, mam tez Macbook Pro 2019 , 8 ram , 128 gb ssd, ekran retina 500 nits, oba chodza jak sieczkarnia wolno i mnie juz ten ekran denerwuje , wiec przesiadlem sie na iMac 27" 5k , 2020 , 8 ram , 512 gb ssd , ekran retina 500 nits. Nie wiem jakim cudem ale ekran ma 500 nits retina taki sam niby jak MBP 2019 a jednak iMac "chodzi" szybciej ,ekran jest jasniejszy i o wiele lepiej mi sie na nim "pracuje" . Jesli kupie Macbook to musi miec ekran OLED , to samo iMac ,musi miec ekran oled lub podobny , ponoc ma byc ekran Micro LED ,zamiast OLED ,prawda to 🎤⚠❓

It would have been more useful to see a render test from Premiere or After Effects not just turning it off and on.

@squircle-design

Жыл бұрын

There's plenty of other channels doing render tests of all the machines over the years, so chose not to repeat the same stuff