"A random knob"- That's what the wife calls me.

I worked for the Perth, Western Australia, Porsche dealership in 1986. I recall the first 944 Turbo arriving. It was a dark metallic red. This car was used on a 'drivers day' promo event at Wanneroo Raceway, north of the city. The day after the event I was tasked with taking the car to a potential customer. Unfortunately, the brakes on the car had suffered on the track with the discs being a little(!) warped. The customer drove the car back with me to the dealership and commented on the brakes, naturally. He was unaware of the track event. I told him the truth as to how they were in that condition. He bought the car. The customer was Heath Ledgers' (the late actor) dad, who ran a very successful Mazda service and race preparation business at the time.

Slight tilting of the earths axis today JayEmm puts up a drive of a Micra K10 & HubNut drives a 944 Turbo S. Great variety!

@JayEmmOnCars

2 жыл бұрын

Anarchy will reign

@6:15 - the wing mirror button, very confusingly, alters which of the two wing mirrors the door mounted control operates. The random knob is the cigarette ligher socket

@michaelb6729

2 жыл бұрын

Btw, your wipers need an exorcism !

@Stag2997

2 жыл бұрын

They do indeed! I had a Turbo 250 with 290BHP on an H plate. They are quite different to drive which either a Boost enhancer fitted or a different wastegate. The boost will cut in far more firmly at 3,000rpm, as opposed to a gentler boost response. Mine was on KWv3s which make a big difference to the ride. It was low, yet comfortable. Quite a revelation really. It's a car I thought I'd never sell. It was a known car in the circles, owned by two known specialists back in the day who were the 944 guys (EMC Motorsport ; Still about and ProMAX Motorsport, who closed the 944 side down to pursue the Holden side). I think a video of the car is about somewhere. Try not to laugh here. I sold it as frankly, my Stag was bankrupting me, and I needed a funding route. Sold the Turbo for £6.5k in 2014!

@kahumike

2 жыл бұрын

More weird factoids... the clock has a stopwatch function. The fuse for the mirrors isn't labeled but also doubles as the fuse for some other random electrical item (rear wiper? I forget now). The odometer reset button is disguised as part of the the centre vents and can only be pushed in when the car is stationary otherwise it strips the gears (possibly linked to the odometer issue? ) The mystery button is the cigarette lighter. There's a torque tube or rod between the brake pedal and master cylinder hence the vague feel of the brakes. The wipers actually have three speeds plus the variable intermittent. And you thought Italian cars were weird 😆

@RobJaskula

2 жыл бұрын

@@kahumike the very first thing I did when I bought my 1986 Turbo in 2003 was to press the trip reset while pulling out of the parking lot where the business had gone down 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@bentullett6068

2 жыл бұрын

I am loving your videos on the more mundane and older cars of recent. Really lost faith in new cars as I am not into complex computer tech and that's what puts me off buying a new car.

In 1983 I used to own one of these. (Radio controlled)

If you want a 1980s classic that is still usable in 2022 and still quick on the road this is surely one of the very best. Porsches high spot for build and durability was this era.

Oh nice! Two of my favourites youtuber swapping cars. Lovely! You two are terrific! Although I'll take the Gsa over the 944 any day, I have massive respect for the latter. What a car! Thank you, gentlemen. I enjoyed this

@garycollard1981

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, love a bit of channel crossover. Looking forward to the GSA review.

@billybill6604

2 жыл бұрын

@@garycollard1981 I really look fwd to knowing what JayEmm thinks of the mighty Citroën. Ian's appraisal of the 944 certainly was interesting. As always.

I have an S2 cabriolet, which has the same interior, and I'm just chuckling away at Ian pushing buttons trying to work out what they do (the cigarette lighter being a particularly amusing one!!!). 😂

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

Oh is that what it was?!

@GarryMcGovern

2 жыл бұрын

@@HubNut 🤣🤣🤣

Very impressive design back in the day and still think they have not aged much. Guards Red suits these very well.

OK, I don't often wear my anorak, but today is that day. The S model was not a 2.7, but a 16 valve version of the regular 2.5. The 2.7 was a very short lived (one or two years?) version of the regular "Lux" model. It appears to have been brought in to replace the regular 2.5 whilst maintaining performance after fitting catalyser and converting to unleaded fuel. 2.7 was quickly usurped by 3.0 S2. Great video, as ever. Awesome. Thanks for the content.

Ian stands waiting for days for JayEmm to return from his road test in Scotland.

I want to see JayEmm in TWC.

@paulie-Gualtieri.

2 жыл бұрын

It would be like he putting a shoe on he's a big man, I even struggling getting into an E-Type it was very cramped and tight very uncomfortable.

@JayEmmOnCars

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulie-Gualtieri. I'll give it a go so long as people watch and enjoy it

@TaffPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also like to see him try out Betty when she's working properly again

@brianiswrong

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayEmmOnCars Iam up for it James. You film it and people will come 🤞

Owned one of these back in the day, and they were very fast indeed and very well engineered. Very underated by many who wouldn't entertain them as they weren't a 911. Such folk usually drove Mondeos.

Just a timeless design still looking great in every respect 👍

One of the best looking car of all time, and its usable.

@LOTPOR0402

2 жыл бұрын

Every now and then the Germans make a good looking car .Most are not

@DaveJudd

2 жыл бұрын

@@LOTPOR0402 Agree ! Love the 70's BMW CSI but most BM's are about has exciting has a mk4 Cortina.

@ivanfernyhough3851

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaveJudd a mark 4 cortina is more interesting than any bmw.the mark 5 was nicer tho.

I suspect being true car enthusiasts, the off camera car chatting with you two would have been really interesting. I had a mint 60k mile 1992 944 S2 about 15 years ago, which I sold when family came along. I sold it for strong money, £4000. Whished I had the means and storage to have kept it. Worth a whole load more now.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

We will have a chat in a future video.

Glad you were so constantly aware of your recent speed awareness course ( or whatever the correct title of the course is) during this test drive Ian 😂

@Imacomingtoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@glennpowell3444 well done

@tomdigby4463

2 жыл бұрын

@@glennpowell3444 excellent piece of work there Glenn 👍

Great review as always, I love it when you review a car that you think is too posh for your channel, good old Hubnut keeping things on level ground 👍 Your right about powerful cars on normal roads, you get held up on the country roads and they are just boring to drive on the motorways 😊 I'd rather be tearing about in a 2cv ☺️

As an American who is older, I like the cars he reviews. My 1st car was a 1961 VW Bug : ) That is still a great-looking car.I like it better than designs of today TBH. The designer deserves an award.

In ‘89/‘90, I had my arse in a new Sierra Sapphire RS Cosworth, breathed-on by the dealer, from the factory, Hendy Motorsport in Chanders Ford (Eastleigh). One of Hendy’s mods was a Detection Tecniques remap-to-250hp, reportedly reducing the 0-62 time from 5.8 to 5.2. Power delivery wasn’t frantic, but it was smoothly urgent in making exciting progress (unlike my outgoing SAAB 900 turbo 8-valve, to which I’d fitted an intercooler, water injection, and wound up the boost to 17psi; and with 182 at the front wheels, that WAS violent in its delivery!). My point - I’m getting to it - is that a pal let me have his new Porsche 968 ‘vert for a few days. That contained the 3-litre naturally-aspirated four-banger that you mentioned, Ian; and I was surprised and impressed at how smooooth, grunty-and-gutsy and quick that thing could be driven. Jeez, it really *could* be launched off the line (with that extra weight over the rear wheels) and neutrally coaxed through bends and roundabouts (for a ragtop), thanks to its 50/50 weight balance; whereas my ‘Cozzie’ would fill the rear arches with tyre smoke and lay a parallel pair of solid black lines if you dumped the clutch wrong, and bite you in the bum if you got a bit lairy with the loud pedal through twisties and roundabouts😳🙄 Like you, I’ve never been a sportscar or hot-hatch fan, preferring the understatement of a performance “Q-car” saloon or estate myself. And I have ‘Citroën’ LDS fluid running through my veins… You & Jay really must review my C6 3.0HDi!

@LOTPOR0402

2 жыл бұрын

Give me the Porsche Any day of the week .Much better made car

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

Awooga, awooga! - car nerd alert!! You didn't go to the Jeremy Clarkson school of 'talking about cars', by any chance..??! You employed every worn cliché and bit of in-slang car-speak known to man there - except 'snaps knicker elastic at 100 yards'......!!!! Quite an achievement ......

@johngriffiths118

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 use this Dolly to show us where the Cossie owner touched you . Be brave

The Pontiac Tempest from the early 60s was available with a 3.2 L inline-4 gasoline engine. Just about bests the Porsche!

@johnd8892

2 жыл бұрын

In size but not in refinement or power. Lots of complaints about how rough it was that I have read. One of the first half a V8 designs I can remember. IHC Scout from 1961 also a 3.2 litre four but 85hp I think.

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

That’s probably why more people went for the Grand Tempest Option..

That was fun! Always nice to try something a little bit different. The 944 has aged quite well in my mind. Nice car.

This is quality. I'm a fan of both channels. Loved that big ridiculous wave from Jay Emm at the start 🤣👍🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

"Hubnut Porsche's", not a phrase I thought I'd ever here

Best collaboration ever in KZread history and keep up the great content and can't wait to see more videos

Great video and an excellent camera position inside the car. Good job the speedo was covered!!

Super happy to see two of my favorite motor men collaborate. Long may it continue :)

I really love the Porsche 944, the styling is just right. I wanted to buy one after I'd sold my TR7, but then we started a family! I still love them and still desire to own one. Thank you Ian for showing us the car, and thank you JayEmm for loaning it to Ian. I'm looking forward to your review of Ian's Citroen.👍🏻

Love the fact your testing each other’s cars and are down to earth, I have a 06 plate Hyundai Terracan 2.9 cdti another rare beast

Love these cars. My all time favourite. Very nearly bought a 1983 auto a few years back, regret passing on it

Funny that this is a first proper review of JayEmm's new car and it's not even on his channel :D

@JayEmmOnCars

2 жыл бұрын

I'm slow

@laskos02

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayEmmOnCars fast cars make it up

Nice. Reminds me of being young. Thanks. Be well and stay safe.

Hubnut drives 944 Porsche after being on a speed awareness course brilliant.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

I actually filmed this the day before the course...

Always liked the 924/944 back in the day, even though I'm not a Porsche fan at all really. Loved the "ooh that's brisk, ooh that's a bit too brisk" moment. I wonder how many times people have said that in a 911 - as it swapped ends😂!

I am very proud to say my mkI TTR has covered 200,000 miles since new......And l am still waiting for the exhaust to blow! 20 years young on 06.05.21

The way you drive Twk across those welsh mountain roads (before you moved house I think), makes me think you would enjoy my Boxster. Mid-engined is so much more civilised. I will drop it over if you ever fancy another cheap Porsche fix. It was good to meet you today.

What a great car Brilliant video Ian 👍

A timeless beauty.

I adore the comedy wiper sound!

My father bought one of the original 924s, unusually for him it was white and had Martini stripes on it in celebration of Porsche being World Sportscar Champions in 1976. I managed to sneak out for a drive in it when he was away, the only Porsche I've ever driven; except I haven't, as most Porsche snobs will tell you that it's Audi-powered with an engine based on one from a VW van, and that the Porsche 944 is the only true model.

What an eclectic pairing! Great!

In a different vein from Iain's on-the-road approach, Jason Cammisa gives us an exhaustive account of the convoluted history of and early engineering problems encountered by the 924/944 family. This provides, for me at least, an excellent companion to the present and also excellent, Hubnut, video.

@promerops

2 жыл бұрын

This is to be found at kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKWA2cZtZKaambg.html

Don’t forget the hubnut worthy Volvo 360 😊 Torque tube and rear mounted gear box also. Wiper motor sounded brilliant 🤣🤣

I do like to watch these “review each other car channels” videos. Great review and always good to see a HubNut review of a car that isn’t very HubNut.

I bought a 1977 Porsche 924 in 1986. It had a 5-speed gearbox and 125 HP (metric). I had the car for almost 3 years when it was replaced with a 1985 944 (facelift), but still 2479 cm3 and 163 HP. I loved the engine, but the new interior was a downturn. Far more modern of course, but hardly as inspiring as the old interior. I also sat better in the 924. The seats were the same, but Porsche had changed the ergonomics a bit and this was not to my advantage. I also doubt if the 944 was really that much faster than the 924 on ordinary country roads. The 944 weighed 200-250 Kg more and especially the acceleration in 3rd gear on the 924 was impressive. I think it was first with the 944 S, 944 S2 and the various turbo models that the 944 became a significantly better car than the 924. In addition, there was also a 924 S with a 944 engine (though slightly detuned). Perhaps the best 924 was the 924 Turbo (931) with 177 hp. That engine actually delivered up to 200 HP when it was at its best and even the first 944 Turbo (951) failed to run from it on the Autobahn. However, the 944 Turbo had much better brakes (from the 928 S4) and this made the big difference. The 924 Turbo had brakes from the 928 S.

15:52 That's the feeling of having an inline 4 sports bike. You putter along at 4500rpm or so in 2nd gear. You crank it open and it gently accelerates to 6000rpm, after which suddenly warp drive is engaged, spacetime folds around you and whoopsie you hit the rev limiter at 130km/h, still in 2nd gear. Catapulting yourself onto a highway onramp never gets old. Getting such acceleration for 650 euro is a bit surreal. Bike is an FZR600 from 1993, with totally rad dual round headlights. It's a beautiful mess. But i agree. Using any of its performance on the road is nearly impossible. I would've gone for a 400cc inline 4 90s bike so the fun lasts a bit longer, but those are rare and by now starting to get expensive.

@-DC-

2 жыл бұрын

My First bike was an 89 FZR600 it was difficult to comprehend anything could accelerate that fast after just passing my test !

@GoldenCroc

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, there were no FZR 600 with double round headlights after 1991? Maybe it has been swapped, or an older bike that was unsold inventory? Or maybe the double headlight version soldiered on in some specific markets? Nevertheless its a nice bike, Had a Kawasaki GPX 600R which is sort of similar. Oh, and a word of advice, dont try a new bigger bike, because if you do, the FZR however nice will seem to be stationary in comparison. Rev limiter is about 160-170kmh. In first gear...

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

In Australia, the Honda CB400 Super Four was still available brand new until 2019. It's not exactly a sports bike though, it's just a UJM. "I would've gone for a 400cc inline 4 90s bike so the fun lasts a bit longer, but those are rare and by now starting to get expensive."

Another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts

Wondered for a while if these guys were aware of each other, without doubt my two favorite KZreadrs. Even though Jayemm owns two supercars he also has a soft spot for the odd shed or three.

Ooooooh I've always really liked these.

I never quite got on with JayEmm, I followed Lawries Mechanical Marvels when Lawrie and Jay split, Lawrie is a bit more Hubnut methinks.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

They're still good friends. In fact, I met all of them that weekend and even helped transport some parts between them!

@JayEmmOnCars

2 жыл бұрын

Yep all still friends with slightly different interests but a common thread

@voivod6871

2 жыл бұрын

Love all three of these guys, so there

Enjoyed Thanks Mate!

Power: Less Is More, But Moderate Amount Is Morer

As ever, bringing you the comparisons you didn't know you wanted.

A lovely example in a proper colour too. 👍👍😊

I entirely agree regarding high powered cars. Here in NZ, 100k (62mph) and there's few places you can enjoyably do that so there seems little point in having something which does 230k and 0-100k in 4 secs. I've got a Honda CR-Z which in sports mode is great fun but even those moments are relatively few.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

Driving a Holden Commodore V8 in NZ was certainly frustrating!

Speaking of useable speed: My father used to own a 1st series 944 back in the day which - to my own surprise - I got to drive a couple of times (I was only 19 then). Took it to a scheduled inspection one day and found myself in a brand new 944 turbo the dealer had offered as a replacement for the day. I had to go back on a short stretch of unresptricted autobahn and tried out the car's capabilities on the acceleration lane ... only to find myself talking to a motorbike cop a minute later. Rather incomprehensibly, he found that the 120 mph I had reached at the end of that acceleration lane were not quite acceptable as a speed to join the main motorway lanes. *shrug* He let me off with a verbal warning, though. In other words: These 944 turbos were - and in fact still are - blisteringly quick cars. BTW, the 944 turbo S you have here was always quoted with too low performance figures by Porsche themselves. Why? Because it would otherwise have matched the performance of the far costlier 911 (which - in fact - it did). But despite them being used in racing, I think that the 4-cylinder Porsches from 924 to 968 aren't really "racey" cars, though. They always feel a liitle heavy as much as they feel solid but due to their marvellous seats and seating position they are one the best mileage eaters ever. I always felt that doing a 1000km daytrip in them isn't stressful at all. Until a few years ago I had a 924S myself (one of the rare models with the full 160hp of the original 944 whilst most 924S had a slightly detuned version with 150hp to keep it from being quicker than its costlier 944 sibling that was sold in parallel). It was huge fun as it was a) a little lighter than the 944, b) had a better top speed than the series I 944 (better aerodynamics because of it missing the widened wings) and c) it was always criminally underrated by other drivers who misjudged it as a lowly 125 hp standard 924 (which was a nice but expensive sports tourer in the mid-70s but which was also outaccelerated even by a 1.6 liter Golf GTi Mk I. Oh, if anyone is out on the hunt for one of these as a daily driver: Just make sure you pick one with aircon. The small 2+2 cabin in combination with a large windscreen and that huge glass hatch will make you feel like a tomato in a dutch hothouse in no time every time the sun is out. And it will do so even at modest outside temperatures of 15 or 20 degrees Celsius. ;-)

As a kid my neighbour had one of these that he replaced with another one, rather than upgrade. He had the money but there must have been a company car tax fiddle to it. I did get regular lifts to school from said neighbour if I missed the bus. I did deliver him a newspaper so he knew me and would stop to offer a lift with no thumbs up needed. The ride was more like being on a sledge. The low seating height and bumpiness made it so. It had low profile tyres for its time and I think that harsh ride was what people expected from sports cars in the day. The neighbour also had a chitty-chitty bang bang MG in the other side of his garage and I think his wife drove a Fiesta, but I could be wrong about that, it certainly was not as remarkable as the 944.

A bit of feedback, with the camera out of the window you can barely see the road because its so hugely over-exposed. Not sure if there is anything you can do about it but thats a very nice machine and well kept! Can't remember the last time I saw one of these on the road.

What a great review, I sadly cannot listen to Jay Emms vocal delivery, so glad to see Hubnut reviewing this car.

Great car and video😎🇳🇴

My soul left my body when you turned the wipers on. Terrifying!

I'll need to google "drive line shunt" but that 944 looks superb. What a lucky guy Jay Emm is to have possession of the very lovely Giselle

“Oh, that’s brisk. Oh, that’s too brisk!” 😁 Some great lines in this test! Road noise seems to be a Porsche trait. My Cayman was poor too. I found it spoilt the experience. On the performance front, yes, you can’t really use a fast car to it’s full potential on the road in the U.K., which may frustrate. Equally, there’s always plenty in reserve and, sometimes, for overtaking say, you are out, past and back in again in a much shorter time with less time spent on the wrong side of the road. So, arguably, that’s safer. I guess it’s like divers watches, you don’t need a 100m depth watch, but it’s good knowing it’ll do it. That said, as an enthusiast, I totally get the ‘it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast one slow’, I once had a 1.2 Clio that you always drove flat out to make decent progress and it was a lot of fun.

I once had a 1987 Audi Coupé GT with an almost identical speedometer, also with a broken odometer that had stopped at about 178,000 miles. It turned out to be a small white nylon gear that had cracked. I tried to fix it but ended up swapping the instrument over for a spare one that came with the car.

Excellent review, I am a secret fanboi of Porsches through I will never own one.... But looks like another drive you enjoyed. Looking forward to Jayemm's review on Giselle. As for the wipers I thought you has become the new doctors assistant and entered the TARDIS

Lovely looking motor mate.

Both great channels

My brother in law imported 1 of the 1st 944 Turbos in right hand drive to the U K. He collected it from the factory himself it was a white one, and he was stopped a few times on his way from Dover to Dorset by some traffic officers who had not seen one before.

I always thought the shape of the 944 was a particular success to my eyes.

@davidfoster1762

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Astra GTC is as well in my view. Not a wrong line anywhere. By the way I don’t have either car !

FYI in music, British Invasion #2 started very late 70s-80s. OMD video on here "Electricity" is from 1979 and still sounds great.😇

Nearly bought one of these (or something like it) in 1990 fo $7,000. It had damage, sat at wreckers for some time whilst we bought, repaired and sold about a dozen other (mainly Japanese or Volvo). Vehicles. It just wasn’t common enough at the time and even the owner of the wreckers warned us against taking it on. His attitude was, no one wants a Porsche that isn’t a 911. I look back and think it could have been fun though!

I visited the Porsche museum last week. A long trip from Denmark but highly recomendable. And ther is only 5 miles between the Porsche- and the Mercedes Benz museum.

What a fine looking car they are.

The crossover we all need

You win!

I believe that’s the Silver Rose 944. It benefited from a lot of performance upgrades such as brakes, suspension and wheels.

9:46 Definitely not a sound you want to hear before going to bed at night.😂 Great review, Ian!

@Stonehopper1067HMG

2 жыл бұрын

Play it backwards, it’s a secret message from the lost souls that assembled it at the factory.

I do miss my chipped and tuned 87 model. Bloody quick. I also fitted a boost enhancer that brought the turbo on song at around 2500rpm rather than 3500rpm. It would hit 80mph in second gear pretty quickly.

May I suggest a Suzuki Super Carry as a palette cleanser?

It look like you enjoyed yourself nice video 👍👍👍

I completely agree with your comments on how you just can't exploit the cars potential on the road. It's why I don't understand those that modify their road car to have 1000bhp or whatever. The kind of stuff that LLF reviews. In the real world they aren't any faster than a Nissan Micra. The red line in 2nd gear is enough to get you in to trouble in most cars these days. Don't get me wrong I like fast cars as much as the next guy, but on a track. On the road, less really is more when it comes to power.

Jay actually won that car off Classic Giveaways UK which is a classic car competition run by TGE TV

Early on in my driving years I had a then new mk 2 Fiesta Ghia 1100. Later, among others a Cavalier 1.6 GL. The fiesta was more fun at 50 - 60mph, because the Cavalier needed to be at 80+ for the same level of fun. Now have a company Transit Custom, which handles well, goes well enough and is more of a challenge to extract the most from.

I’ve always liked these car a nice design

Nice

the Porsche 944 has a lovely shape to it ,,

Hub nut likes the power 😂👍

The 924 and later series had fantastic handling due to near perfect weight distribution. The harder they are driven the better they handle. Unfortunately you need to take one of these to the Ring or Spa to take full advantage. They also did particularly well at Mt Panorama in period but of course they were run by Privateers so lacked the team backup they needed. I actually think a well set up VW Golf mk 2 GTi is a better drive as it can be driven on its limit much easier without reaching warp speeds. A real hoot on a long sweeping high speed bend in the hands of a skilled driver.

Jay Emm drives off in the GSA .... "So long sucker, you won't see me again".

Mmm, I wonder if we could put together a Hubnut race series. Now that really would be something to behold.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

A HubNut track day might be fun! Racing sadly tends to quickly get expensive.

Very good cars apart from the fact often they catch fire because of porous fuel lines. And no not related to E10, it already happened back in the days quite often. One of my father’s clients had one that nearly went that way. My father restored the car, engine and the bay as well. We have had several at home. We had a 944 S2 cabrio, also an S2 with the same front Turbo bumper and rear bumper. One of the best driving Porsches really, in all honesty. A very cool car as well is the 924 turbo that has the mechanical Kjetronic fuel injection. Oh and we also had a 944S targa. The cylinder heads aren’t the strongest post either and the balancing shafts are quite delicate. The all running fan is also a known issue on higher mileage cars. Center console also very flimsy. The S2 is a 3 liter. As a kid I always liked the sound of the starter. Everything very familiar to me with this car. Concerning the effective drive, indeed, way too much power for nowadays daily usage. That’s a reason why I love our quite short geared GT6. Lovely!

You are right not to attempt the rear seats. My wife tried for hours to get child seats in the back of my ropey old 928 before we agreed that it had to go when our children were arriving. She did admit to me later that it was the Porsche that caught her eye and not the driver!😳🥺

My other cars a Toyota - anyone else see the Celica mats in the boot. One of the mechanics that used to work at the garage where I did, had a 944, spent most of it's time off the road, so did one of the driver's 924, though the boss's wife's 924 never had any problems

The way Porsche owners drive their car, any could potentially be HubNut worthy. that is a group of owners who generally enjoy their cars, for extended distances and periods of time... The fancy ones, oh well, you have to have tp beauty queens for the sit around the garage and talk about cars set...

Cue: pub bore quip about van engines in...

Great car fine taste indeed

Your vid on this perfectly sums up my feelings on this type of car. Can't use it on the road in the UK in the way it wants to be driven. Same goes for huge american cars but due to their size, park something that long down at Tesco's.

I believe that if you're into sports cars, Porsches are the only ones worth having. They are the only ones that are "real" cars that you can be used as daily drivers and don't require that you be on a first name basis with a Rolex-wearing mechanic. Btw, the International Scout, an early SUV unknown outside North America, was available with a 3.2 litre 4-cylinder gasoline engine.

Proof again that where power is concerned, less is more. What a contrast to the Fiat X/19 with its supple ride and 85bho engine where Ian couldn't stop smiling.

@GoldenCroc

2 жыл бұрын

True. But I think its also down to the chassis. A 944 Turbo S has a very different set of goals it tries to achieve compared to a X/19, despite both being "sportscars". One is a cheap and cheerful puppydog of a car for the masses, one is the highest end of an entry level Porsche, and was genuinly one of the quickest cars around a track you could buy back in the day, with a price to match. Serious to a fault.

@HubNut

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Power Less Is More is pretty much a road thing. I like powerful cars, just not on the road.

From "brisk" to "too brisk" in under a second!