Hey 320SimPilot! Thanks so much for checking out our program! Couple things I want to mention - the voice at the end was a bug, you should not have gotten that accent in Manchester, and the mispronunciation of everything was a bug as well. This was addressed in today's patch (1.0.18.EA) and should hopefully address these issues - the basic voices should always be understandable and premium should not be required, as you said. Thanks again for all the great feedback - we will take it on board and work to improve all the issues you had here.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for that information, great to hear! I suspected that would be the case. Hopefully you can tell I am very impressed with what you’ve achieved here so far, looking forward to its future.

@JuvilleBeats

2 ай бұрын

@beyondatc thank you so much for such an amazing product! And thank you 320 Sim Pilot for reviewing it! :)

@hjr2000

2 ай бұрын

This will be a must-have soon enough despite v1 issues!

@Swy2023

2 ай бұрын

Can you Fix the Australian ATC names? they are supposed to be Melbourne centre and Brisbane centre not Brisbane radar & Melbourne radar

@MrFavourites333

2 ай бұрын

Yeah 320sp we definitely got your ringing endorsement from your excellent review 🤣👍

"Dont judge me as I am using the x-box controller". Does a better landing than I can with joystick, pedals, and throttle. FFS

@josephgreen4217

2 ай бұрын

Yes for me also. Not only that its more comfy to use

@chadvader974

Ай бұрын

Hahahah

Sure, just casually land a 787 better with a controller than I can with a full set up. Those years of training is paying for itself right here.

You have to pay for the premium voices because it costs them money every time they access the AI servers. Great video

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!

@OrganAviator

2 ай бұрын

@@320SimPilot Also, yes BATC does know which frequency you select in the aircraft

@matejmarosz20

2 ай бұрын

​@@OrganAviator yes it does, atleast in fenix. Speaking from personal experience

@OrganAviator

2 ай бұрын

@@matejmarosz20 is it only in the FENIX? I thought that feature worked in every aircraft

@matejmarosz20

2 ай бұрын

@@OrganAviator i said at least not only bro. I don't fly others now. It should work.

I saw on their discord, some issues are allready patched; "**Minor Update: 1.0.18.EA** - Lots of fixes for voice recognition and spoken instructions not being understood. - Added a new option to have BATC prefer virtual airlines if the VA shares the same ICAO code as an IRL airline. - Added option to force Basic Voice Model to use english-based speech. Use this if you were finding it difficult to understand some accents when using the Basic Voice Model. - "Toggle Always on Top" button changed to "Toggle Bring to Front" - when assigned and invoked will cause the application to display itself above all other applications and give it focus. Pressing the button again will send it back below other applications. Useful if you only have one monitor. - Additional fixes with flight plans, routes and TOD calculations. "

Really compelling video and probably the longest one I’ve watched but I do love these ATC programs and your insight is very helpful for those of us who are only familiar with the basic in sim ATC commands. Thanks very much.

@320 Sim Pilot - Looks really promising and sounds like they have addressed some of the bugs already. Thanks for the review 👍

Another great video 320SimPilot! I bought BATC on release day and have only been able to do a single flight - 737-900 KMKE (using the new free IniBuilds scenery) to KDFW (my home airport) and other than my formatting mistakes BATC did a great job. Decended me into the DFW area and put me on an intercept course for the visual. I look forward to watching the program grow and improve. Have a great one!

Putting aside the current bugs in the build the basic idea is something flight simming always needed.. great stuff

Thanks a lot for the demo, perfect !

The truck I bought had one of these that came with it. It took some getting used to. Thanks for walking me through the features, great vid.

Another incredible video! I think this software is a big leap forward. VATSIM coverage isn't always great so this is nice. It will improve with time. It still blows my mind that a real world BA pilot enjoys playing FS2020. I failed my maths test a couple weeks ago for the speedbird cadet academy. You have my fullest respects sir. You are clearly a very capable, intelligent and thorough individual. Congrats man. Love the videos! You're a great 'explainer of things'.

Thank you for a great video again! And of course the review of that product of which I am very interested.

Great vid! Just did an EIDW-EBBR flight and it ran well with B-ATC, though i wasn't vectored thru the approach. It cleared me from FL370 down to 2000ft in one go which was surprising.

Thank you very much sir for this excellent demo of Beyond ATC. Appreciate it alot! :)

Great video! And yeah when you landed i had the same reaction xD ; the basic voice was broken but it has been fixed today tho (v1.0.18EA) !

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching!

Thank you so much for the video! I bought it almost instantly 😀

Thanks, really looking forward to more.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@johnmaguire2185

2 ай бұрын

Tried the same route. Same strange accent at MCR. Strange ATC at FL 180 instructed to descend to FL200. It’s just looking at the ELVOS flight level constraint and ignoring what the aircraft is at. Then gets confused. Tried requesting a lower FL didn’t work. I did try to confuse BATC by asking for a direct to a WP I had past. BATC Didn’t get fooled just told me off !

Thanks for this. As usual, fair and informative. I'll get it eventually, but first, I need to improve my flying skills. This what is I like about your vids, you take into account those of us who are less experienced. 👍

Great video as always miss you being a320 pilot. I’ve done flight today never spoken before it was great to experience

Yet another awesome video. Like you mentioned, a lot of people might find this service very helpful to get used to procedures and phraseology before VATSIM. It could also be great for whenever there is no VATSIM coverage at an airport you want to fly into.

I am loving beyond ATC. Very cool!

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Good to hear!

Great video. I tried it yesterday and struggled with a couple of things, including understanding Ground Voices. They have updated the Basic voices today in a patch that makes them easier to undetsand

agree 100 that it must work and be understandable without premium!. Thanks for great review!

Really great addon that will hopefully get better over time. It works pretty well overall as long as you dont go too far off script, otherwise it gets a bit confused.

Such a valuable video for someone like me considering purchasing Beyond for the voice interaction. Thank you for your honesty and for sharing your real world experience! I'll stick with FS Hud for now...

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

You are very welcome!

Hey 320! I’ve recently gotten BeyondATC, it’s really great for me because I want to eventually just use Vatsim. I’m able to build up my atc knowledge and word memory to eventually play in the big leagues!

excellent video

Hmmm. Think Ill wait.. Seems to be more of a disturbance rather than an immersive experience! Thanks for the review 🙂

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

You are very welcome, thanks for watching!

@blueline308

2 ай бұрын

I bought it and you are right, it's a PITA for a casual flyer like me.

@madsib5187

2 ай бұрын

​@@blueline308why is that?

@Not_Lewis

2 ай бұрын

​​@@madsib5187I would also like to know. also @blueline308 Do you mean casual flyer as in just hopping in a plane spawning in on the runway? Or casual meaning every few days might do a short flight? Casual simming means for me flying every once in a while. I'm not a part of a virtual airline and I only have simple peripherals, but that doesn't mean I don't want to enjoy realism.

@Not_Lewis

2 ай бұрын

@@blueline308 .

Hey mate. FYI, I would put "Not sponsored" in the title of this video. I would have found it a lot quicker. All the videos I could find all were sponsored, and I love that you mention at the start you paid for the program. I ended up payiong anyway a couple of days ago, and love the program. Take care mate.

@320SimPilot

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

I know you did this video a couple weeks ago and there have been a few updates since then. As someone who is not a real pilot, I absolutely love BATC. It's leaps and bounds above the default and even other ATC programs from the past. I have been flying in various countries and the accents really do make it feel like I'm actually flying somewhere besides the United States. Sometimes there are difficult to understand but I would expect that (especially in various African countries). I know there have been some issues with mispronunciations and incorrect/wrong frequencies but that's minimal to me considering what is being offered. At least it hasn't vectored me into a mountain like other ATC apps have. ;) I have yet to use premium voices as the basic ones are quite good (IMO).

Hey, great video sir! Love BATC so far even though there are a couple of glitches but being that it’s an early release version, I guess that should be expected. Don’t you think that it would be cool to be able to port the comms window over into an iPad as an option so we don’t have to deal with the obstructed view?

Well done BeyondATC devs, this is very impressive, lots of potential! Though it's still in beta the software is adding, even at this stage, significantly to the sim experience (as long as you stay on-script). Of course, there are still important things to fine tune and that's what the beta stage is all about, so lots of feedback folks...please help these devs make the product as good as it can be! There was quite a few situations in this video where not saying the exact 'expected' reply/phrase confused the software - that's an important issue that will need fixed (need the parser to expand on picking up key/action words, and in different input orders). Off-script scenarios are, sooner rather than later, going to be important - both because it's not uncommon for the player to know what the on-script procedure might be at all times, or, how exact the player needs to adhere, and, (of primary importance to the 'AI' element) because players want to experiment. There needs to be a lot more 'If...Then' constructs to handle as many off-scrips inputs/actions as possible - the more of those, the more 'AI' the product will be (which isn't really true AI, of course). The current start-end pathway (entire existing planned route) would benefit from the addition of loops/branches (e.g. course diversion because of weather/ad-hoc sight seeing etc) - it looks like, in its current form, the player needs to stick exactly to script. On the other hand, this is a beta release, so again folks, this is the time when you'll have most input into a program's features/fixes so do feedback to the devs...pester them! Looking forward to trying this out!

The descent phase is quite a mess as to now! Didn't get a flight yet that should be as it should. As for the ILS approach mess, you should report this as a bug to them. Great video!

I can see a (future) online version of this where they can implement their own version of "AI vatsim", where there will always be a controller for you even with GA VFR and less populated areas of the world.

It will improve. This is the greatest thing to ever come to a flight sim

I had very similar experience as you. I’m from the North East so nobody understands us anyway! It shows great promise but I think it will require a premium microphone. Great demo!

@generalrodcocker1018

2 ай бұрын

i don't understand that guy either. I would try to speak clearly especially when i want international audience to understand what i say

Thank you 320 Sim Pilot for this detailed, honest review. I like the programme and have one question: I currently use Pro ATC/SR where you can decide your arrival parking position before departing - can you do this with Beyond ATC or do you just park wherever they tell you (which I assume is aircraft compatible)? Thanks.

On the cleared for takeoff correction it should say "negative" not "no"

@berndverst

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Though that's more Premium characters haha

It’s a bit rough around the edges. But it’s a really promising start

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Agreed!

Thanks Again for all the great content. I scared my Uncle with all my knowledge on the 787 as he is a pilot on that aircraft too.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome, thanks for watching!

As someone who is terrified of VATSim, this looks interesting to me as I usually use the default MSFS ATC and it always breaks on long-hauls. I may wait for them to iron the program out but I’m excited to see where it goes.

The in-game auto setting squawk can be disabled in the assistance setting (co-pilot), letting BATC set that for you. As for two voices for the ATIS, disable all in-game ATC settings. BATC will become the primary choice.

@Braussie1

2 ай бұрын

Hey mate, I might have missed that, cool. Mind if I ask how and where this can be done in BATC? thanks

You have to disable the default atc to prevent the double atis.

@JAYZ999

2 ай бұрын

Yes first thing I always do is disable the ATC. I swear if MSFS2024 doesn’t have proper AI powered ATC, then what’s the point?

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I turn off all other traffic during the video to avoid any other inteference.

@Shiroko0516

2 ай бұрын

@@320SimPilot Actually you can turn off the ATC voice in the assistance options

@TheMicj38

2 ай бұрын

@@JAYZ999 They won't. It's too difficult and at the moment too expensive

@_Haper

2 ай бұрын

I am decreasing the volume of MSFS's ATC in order to still feel more immersion by hearing other FSLTL plane communications. So far, extremely happy to use voice rather then keyboard button.

Very interesting. Some observations - when you had premium voices on, the aircraft's pilot voice had an Australian accent, while the controller's was very British, but when you went to default, the pilot was British but the controller's was Dutch etc. Given that it knew you were in the UK (Heathrow) and were a BA flight (British), and it had the British accent for both the pilot and controller, you'd think it would be pretty easy to get the accents right, so I'd say this is something that could be ironed out. As you say, it would be reasonable to expect accents that are at least close in default mode and not something that is unintelligible. Some of the confusion around flight level changes could be irritating. I find default MSFS ATC quite often gets into that rut, so hopefully this is something BeyondATC can fix. Most of the other interaction issues could be down to learning how the system expects to be talked to, so you might well be able to get round those with time. If not, I can see it getting a bit frustrating. That all said, it's clearly a massive step in the right direction and it can only get better with time, I just hope the community is willing to be patient, as well as provide constructive feedback around local procedures etc, to enable continuous improvement. Re the pricing model, I'm reasonably comfortable with it, it's a 'user pays as you go' model that covers their AI cost, which hopefully over time will come down a bit - there's no such thing as a free lunch!

While the Sim not recognising the automatic frequency change from BATC in the Airplane, you can actually set the frequency on the airplanes radio and it will also be set in BATC.

very good video and I decided to buy beyondAtc...is the 787 you are flying from the simulator or did you buy it separately...do you have a tutorial on that plane??

I bought it and flew from KJFK to KBUF. It seemed fine for the departure but bad during arrival. The vectors to visual RWY05 were too high and too close to threshold but I managed and then while on decent path 3miles final got a go around and after that the canned responses were amiss and no call could be understood/interpreted by ATC, even automatic replies would not work anymore. I understand it is early release and I will try again but I think it is no replacement for Vatsim even when minimally staffed. Just as a note, I also had no options to change my approach during decent and had to take the visual with vectors.

Quite impressive, but also not quite ready for prime time. I think I'll be waiting for a patch or two. Thanks for the vid!

MCT Transitions you mentioned. I've never heard of that. Could you a vid explaining? Is it what happens at Newcastle where you approach dirct to NT then do a teardrop? Never knew it was called that

28:40 is that Brookmans Park VOR showing as a TACAN on the nav display?

Awesome video! Now that you’re flying the 787, what do you think of the Kuro 787?

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I love the Kuro 787, and have used it on streams!

Hi Captain , I bought this on Sunday . Surprisingly it has Indian Accent as well which help me use in my Indian airport . But it solely depends on Airport Data due to which I had old 3rd party airport so my whole landing was messed up .

Thanks for the video! I have a question if you wouldn't mind: I like to fly to Manchester on the sim, but I noticed that all of the STARs don't really have any continuity towards the ILS and just expect you to be manually sequenced. Is it like that in EGCC in real life too? Thanks!

When you get handed off to another frequency and you say "Thank you" after your read back they actually come back and say "You are very welcome" or something to that effect. Can't remember exactly now.

Wow great insight. Would love to see you do one with some of the others like SayIntentions and FSHud or even Pilot2ATC just see how they are responding according to real world expectations by the experts. You may have already done one for these also. Thanks sir

@scum5

2 ай бұрын

"sir"?

@stanleyjames6394

2 ай бұрын

@@scum5 yep Thanks

@scum5

2 ай бұрын

@@stanleyjames6394 cringe

Great video as per, is there a way to have the interface on a tablet?

I've never played with a flight sim with anything other than the vanilla ATC. This program is great for the immersion. Sure, there are still hiccups, but its early access and overall, I love it. If you don't know what to say next having the option to have it automatically reply is very nice. You do need to stay on the rails, and I believe the only things it'll accept are the auto replies, so sometimes you just need to give it what it wants. But overall its so much better than just vanilla.

Yeah u have to really slow down and articulate, it helps alot

Amazingly they've already fixed the vectors issue seen in the video.

Completed my first flight yesterday Gatwick to Schipol. Worked very well up until the approach where they wouldn't descend me. Great add-on though and look forward to it's Development

@neilperrin3108

2 ай бұрын

I did a similar flight yesterday on the ILS 06 approach with SUG1B transition. It worked faultlessly even giving Altitude restrictions over SUGOL before providinh descent instructions there after. It helps if you fly from and to Payware scenery and top end freeware airports in order to avoid confusing BATC.

@madsib5187

2 ай бұрын

Can you minimize the window? I find it very annoying if it blocks my view

@beardysimpilot6732

2 ай бұрын

@@madsib5187 I have it running in the background then use alt+Tab to bring it up and get rid of it

@airrd

2 ай бұрын

@@madsib5187 yes you can

@Axeman450

2 ай бұрын

@@madsib5187there is an option in the latest update to reduce the window so that you can see around it. You can then grab the edges and size it down to a size that suits you.

Considering the number of Bugs you encountered through no fault of your own and the Sim having to automatically correct itself. Paying per character for premium voices seems overkill. Your character balance is being eaten away as a result of the ATC issuing new orders or incorrect orders. How many characters are you losing through no fault of your own?

A new update today gave you the options of having voices more local to where you are as I found some of he accents were very strong when flying around the UK before this

@I_Evo

2 ай бұрын

Yes just seen that. 'Simple Basic Voice Accents" I think it's called.

@crazydanz

2 ай бұрын

Ah so they were just randomly picked before then? Couldn't find an answer for this honestly. This is literally the only video I've found that even samples the basic voice lines which is super nice to actually see. As the premium voice lines are just way to much expense for my personal use, so I'd be more looking at basic voice lines.

@razalom66

2 ай бұрын

@@crazydanz Yeah basically - guess they have watched your video @320SimPilot :) More work on eliminating bad or hard to understand Basic Voice Model accents. Fix for the ILS vector error seen in 320 Sim Pilot's Video today Multiple fixes for UK/EU center names. Fix for late descents causing the pilot to be too high on their approach.

A step up from default ATC, but still very scripted and confined. From an immersion perspective, I'd never be confused between this and a real/vatsim controller. (like Sayintentions does, at least for me). Still, looks like a WIP and again, better than default. Continue the great work team Beyond 👍

I've purchased BATC, pretty good so minor bugs they need to iron out.

@matejmarosz20

2 ай бұрын

Its EA after all, but pretty solid app on rly solid foundation

Hi, Could you tell me what software is used to record your flight & has ability to move around and views on playback of camera angles etc

Hi I flew to JFK and got clearance for RW04L. I asked for 04R but I guess my phraseology was not correct. Do you know if that is possible? Or it's because it's still early access? Although I am so happy about BeyondAtc. Was waiting for this since 2005. I started with FS2002😂

I’ve never flown using ATC before so this may sound dumb. When I set up my flight plan from simbrief let’s say I’m taking off 26L on sim brief but atis is saying only active is 08L and 08R what do I do since simbrief is saying one and ATIS is saying another. I’ve went into simbrief and changed departure runway. but still same thing could apply for arrival.

I believe it will only "recognise" the commands that appear in the bottom left window of BATC (i.e when you was trying the vacate runway)

Looking forward to the software recognizing all the smaller airports; dirt, grass

I would image that just like in VatSim you will want to turn off the default sim's speech so you don't double up ATIS

how are your taxi markings so clear?! Even with a mix of high and ultra mine aren't like that.

"Well, I hope he's going to do something more than that." 😆

Can you please list all your add ons in future descriptions

Sure is an intersting option and since they changed their pricing model is very promising.. would you say as soneone learning atc this is a good idea... how do you think ur flight would of gone if you werent a rela pilot?? I wondering if it will be frustrating for us who need guidance

what would interest me is: how is the phrasology? i think something like this very helpful, especially for learning before you take the step to vatsim. is the phrasology accurate enough as it is in beyondATC? or do you learn some rubbish?

These things you picked up on would be good to pass on to their team

@Kadesh86

2 ай бұрын

already did

Hi 320 Sim Pilot, I definetly went nuts once you mentioned in the vid app somehow could recon the local procedures for facing traffics also to give you the taxi, with minor issues.... I wonder if you're familiarized with the local taxi procedures in LEBL. If you're so....Could you please test it in LEBL and give us a feedback. Thanks for advance.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I will see if we can give it a go on a stream one day, but I can't promise! I am mostly aware of the procedures in LEBL so it would be interesting.

i could not seem to know how to use beyond atc and vatsim with the 787 family because i could not get comm 2 to work at the same time as comm 1 if you could help me with this problem it would be great thanks

Good lord, it's way to buggey still. But great video and explaination. Thank you.

I've been using PROATC/SR for several years and find it work very well. It certainly works better than Beyond ATC so far. I may consider it once they have the ground AI feature working. Until then its PRO ATC/SR, AI Flow, AI Ground, and FSLTI Traffic.

Im waiting for the AI traffic. By then hopefully it will be more polished too

The dutch accent at the end is indeed a bug ; I've traced it in a BATC log as : 'Returned character via Area Code: Netherlands_5'; I repeated the flight and had the same issue.

I wonder if it can deal with RNP/ RNAV approaches.

@shortfinal999

2 ай бұрын

Yes.

Did EGLL to EGCC myself with BATC as my first test ... premium voices, it was great for me but used up 5000 characters out of the 50000, so its not going to last long in terns of premium voice 😢

Is there a plugin to simulate the doors falling off the Boeing?

Id imagine Queenstown approach would be quite intriguing with this program?

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

That could be a great idea! Thanks for watching!

i pressed fire and i think it was too early. Biggest issue for me is bluetooth mic's don't work.

If we don’t have charts how do we know where the runway is for take-off? Need a taxi ribbon like the sim ATC

@umbreonpokemon8190

2 ай бұрын

why would you want realistic ATC if you dont have charts? There is no taxi ribbon in real life

As a real world pilot, I really wanted to see you test Beyond ATC in a real world situation - ie without the interface always on screen, and interacting only with voice using your pro telephony skills. The whole point of simulated ATC is to provide greater immersion and seeing the interface on screen kinda kills it.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

You can minimise the interface and just key the mic to talk to it!

@emileguertin

2 ай бұрын

@@320SimPilot Great thanks - so maybe next time conduct a full flight this way to replicate your real world experience? Love to see that.

Paying for premium voice is likely because they use existing 3rd party TTS AI voice services for which they need to pay usage fees. it can become rather expensive to include it in a flat subscription fee while keeping the subscription itself reasonably small.

@Xerkus

2 ай бұрын

essentially, look for commercial text-to-speech offerings, eg from google, azure and so on. They usually have per character/byte billing or per time billing. For ATC per-character billing is more economical.

@JohnVanderbeck

2 ай бұрын

This is exactly why and they've been very transaprent on this.

Still not convinced the on-rails approach is the way to go, although I understand their arguments. Clearly it’s not yet ready for release, but exciting to see how it develops. Thanks for the awesome vid as always!

Thanks for your humorous and nailbiting video. I'm having problems with enterting the squawk number. It stays for a few minutes THEN changes to another squawk making BATC generate a loss of frequency and there is no way of getting back :( gthais doesn't happen with the Fenix. Any tips?

@davidcardoza535

2 ай бұрын

Turn atc off on fsms turn to off auto copilot on settings o. The flight sim itself

@pinns

2 ай бұрын

@@davidcardoza535 Thanks will give it a whirl!

@pinns

2 ай бұрын

@@davidcardoza535 Many Thanks ! That worked!!!

I tested this from EDI-LHR and it was ok as far as BNN to FL70 but was then left on my own and just told to descend on the ILS for 09L which wasn't very realistic

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

At lppt airport are two runways numbers 02 and 20. Yesterday batc sent me to runway 35 that doesnt exists anymore and its using for taxi. Calm down.

Just got this today, worked great until 30 mins into my first flight and then it just stopped working. Nothing but error msgs saying it lost contact with the sim, regardless of how many times i restarted the program. Little dissapointing

Still a bit buggy but has potential!!

It would help if the text that it THINKS you said is also output into the window, to see if it understood you wrong, or can't process the content itself. At the current state, this is literally the "Alexa, STOP!" equivalent of ATC.

@320SimPilot

2 ай бұрын

That could be a good idea! Thanks for watching.

How dit you get the 787 working? I am on Xbox and it wont work.

I watched it a, second time. Great review. Too many issues with the product though. Outside of the voice input/output, it's not a AI product and we shouldn't get the wrong expectations. It will only understand things if they conform to a very strict format. For instance call sign at the end, not the beginning, no heading request, etc... Still, the product team has great feedback from this vid they can work on. At least common request/phraseology should be understood, and for SID/STAR it seems some work needs to be done. Looking forward to updates!