The designer of the Ppsh said, “ To make something complicated is simple. To make something simple is complicated.

@danielcurtis1434

Жыл бұрын

@@Kodachrome02 depends on who you believe won the pissing March they had circa 44’

@JinKee

10 ай бұрын

Imagine a "tanker" ppsh which grabs a telescoped bolt by a sear at the front

What happened to Foxtrot Mikes response

My FM15 (11.5”) has 3,500 -3,700 rounds through it currently and I’ve had literally zero issues! Bought it through AIMsurplus during Black Friday 2 years ago… love it! But it is quite different from this 102 model. Mine also is the Gen2 version with the adjustable gas block, and 90-95% of rounds fired through it have been suppressed, making the gun run dirtier than without a “can” on the end…. Again, I’ve had ZERO issues

I have FM-15 13.9 pin&weld. I'll say this, yeah there are some pro's and cons. I don't have that issue with the cam pin and my charging handle sits farther forward. I did find adding a magpul bad lever to assist with bolt hold open beneficial. To date I have over 6k rounds in the year and a half I've had it. It did have a break in period with 3 jams in the first 500 rounds but none since. I've only cleaned it once after the first 1k, but wipe it down and lube it after use. I'm a CRSO and Firearms instructor and use it in classes I teach. It's reliable, lighter and flatter shooting than similar conventional ARs. I only changed the extractor pin once, but if you email FM they will send you a set for free, so I stocked up in case I need them. Im pleased with the rifle, it's handy and accurate. It does need slightly different care than a conventional rifle. Some may not care that it folds, but I like it for transport back and forth to work. Just stock up on some of the high wear small parts and you'll be fine, they are there when you need them. FM has excellent customer service. My muzzle device pin and weld came loose. They sent me a label and after sending the upper back they sent me a brand new one with a video showing they were checking it out before sending me the new unit. I thought that was awesome. Hey, things will break sometimes.

@TNRonin

3 ай бұрын

Heck I've had a Colt extractor on break on me, the gun still worked and I didn't Even know it until it was taken apart. MAC has good points but this platform needs refining and expecting this to be the final iteration is absurd. I get the feeling he's condemning from bias.

Phew ! that's a relief ; we were starting to believe that MAC was freed of his curse to receive lemons. Really happy to see that the tradition is alive and well !

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

Haha, probably never.

@Sharky762

Жыл бұрын

Uncle Roger Fiou? Or am I just hearing things?

@AlexSDU

Жыл бұрын

@@Sharky762 I believe he tried to make the "Phew" sound. You know the sound you make when you feel relief. And Uncle Roger said ''Fuiyoh!"

@vchalmel

Жыл бұрын

+@Sharky762 / +@AlexSDU Thank you ! That's a common sign of relief in french… I didn't know if it has an american english equivalent !

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

@@vchalmel We use it here, but it's an older saying. I don't think the younger generation uses it much. I knew what you meant!

Why did you delete the reply from Foxtrot Mike? In a video where you shit on a company one would wonder why you wouldn't allow the owner of said company or one of the employees to respond.

@itsnodawayitustabe5654

2 ай бұрын

Google MAC dragunov

Jeez... I was about to get one of these. I'm so glad I saw this video. Thank you.

Remember that BCM AR 15 you shot over 8,000 rounds through without any lubrication or cleaning? Makes you wonder why anyone would put up with this kind of hassle. Variety and innovation can be fun, but not with these kinds of trade-offs.

You were being very diplomatic when you pointed out the issues with this gun. You made people aware of the numerous problems without making it sound like a piece of garbage. Well done video. Thanks.

@MrJacobjj84

Жыл бұрын

as an owner of an upper my self i can tell you they are trash. The big problem is dont let you know about any of the bs up front. You dont get any info about this untill you get the firearm or upper. All of the original reviews samples clearly hid this becasue not a single one of them bring it up. they claim in ther own videos how reliable things are but if someting fails after a 1000 rounds and when it deals with the firing pin, thats not relaible thats a safety issue.

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

I tried to be as fair as possible while highlighting the issues I had with the gun. Thanks for watching.

@SamSam-ih6nt

Жыл бұрын

​@Militaryarmschannel whyd u delete their comment ?

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

@@SamSam-ih6nt Who's?

@KevinAdams-zr6bz

Жыл бұрын

@@MrJacobjj84 Agreed! In my opinion and based on my experience with my FM15 upper, there are things a buyer needs to know up front that, again, in my opinion, aren't openly disclosed.

I’m glad you bring this up. I have heard a few things about it, and I’ve known people that work there. But this is important information to know.

I haven’t seen Tim this excited to field strip a firearm since the Remington R51.

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

Haha, now that's going back a bit.

@ETHRON1

Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@jeepinintexas6215

Жыл бұрын

Would have been a unique gun if Remington didn't botch it. I like the looks but I can also say from experience that it's a jam-o-matic and the mags sucks

@cookie5535

Жыл бұрын

>me who just bought an R51 on sale used 👁👁 Biggest piece of shit since the Beretta Jetfire 950 😂

Love the info and honesty. Thanks man.

They fixed the hour glass pin replacement issue, I got my new mike 15 yesterday and noticed that it didnt come with replacement pins and when I contacted them to ask why I didn't get replacements they informed me that they fixed that issue and the rifle takes milspec bolt faces and firing pins and extractor retaining pins now. Can't say for the 102 but for the mike 15 it's fixed.

It’s not the greatest design but ive managed to take mine apart and put back together fairly easily despite the design. It never really bothered me as much as it seems to bother Tim.

@almaadams3631

11 ай бұрын

Even PWS ( the best 762×39 platform) seemed to give Tim a bit of frustration. All you really have to do for assembly and disassembly, is hold it upside down.

Welcome to the club. After your original review of the rifle I went to their web site and was totally confused.

I have one of their 12.5” uppers. It works great, but it’s def in the “range gun” category for me. Just wanted something a little different that wouldn’t break the bank. My only disappointment is having to pay extra attention to the round count for maintenance.

@SM-ii8pg

10 ай бұрын

Is the lower receiver proprietary minus the obvious magwell area? I.e. it's somebody had an idea to make another upper work with it (with obvious modifications), with the upper fit on it as it would with any other AR lower?

Can confirm that the extractor pin will function as intended even broken. I have an FM-15 that, after the initial break in period of about 210 rounds, was disassembled for an thorough cleaning. Upon disassembly i found the pin was in fact broken. Functioned flawlessly with exception to one failure to feed related to a bent lip on the magazine. Rifle is fine, would still recommend.

I really was hoping these would be a good option. It's an instant no if part of regular cleaning requires replacing internal parts. Just bought another zastava m90 instead

@janesanglee8735

8 ай бұрын

I rather get the psa jakl now!!!

9:37 “that kink prevents it from being straight“ me too brother 😂

Thanks for sharing

Thank you I was Just looking into a FoxTrot AR15.

I bought one of the first rifles. I pretty much immediately contacted Paul the owner and said I thought the takedown needed to be improved. He replied with something to the effect of, “you don’t know what you’re talking about.” I had the same issues you did. My understanding was that the small parts incl. bolt and firing pin were all compatible with mil spec. Really disappointed to find out that’s not true.

Took mine out today since getting it 2 months ago. Works been crazy. Anyway shot good first two mags third mag had a malfunction. Failure to extract. Now the bolt won’t come all the way back. As soon as I get it apart and fix the problem I’m selling it. Big mistake. 18:46

Daaamn great review! Very clean and not offensive for FM.

Great point. About the replacement parts

Thanks for pointing out the reality... Brownells did a bunch of videos recently... and at no point were these replacement items talked about... That's a lot of parts that have to be replaced frequently.

@aaronfarnsworth7653

Жыл бұрын

I thought of all the promotion vids by them too. It seemed too hard of a product push. They must have a significant investment in Foxtrot Mike products. I also just can't stand Caleb. He comes across rather creepy with a Mayberry hair sniffer vibe.

@brianfischer5609

Жыл бұрын

That's because the Brownells channel is mostly infomercials. They're trying to sell all of their stuff on their website, so of course they're going to leave out glaring problems.

@westtexas3041

Жыл бұрын

They are a retailer. And not a very reliable retailer. They are trying to get consumers to buy from them. They get to sell the rifle and the replacement parts. That’s all they care about.

@railfanningpoints2.045

Жыл бұрын

Their infomercial had used car salesman vibes. This firearm is a dumpster fire.

@CalebSavant

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronfarnsworth7653 That's not nice... lol

I love my FM102. Its easy to take apart and reassemble I think the video is a bit dramatic. Just order extra parts incase SHTF. I always have the coolest gun at the range people are always wanting to look at it

@buddermonger2000

8 ай бұрын

Well the issue is the sheet of paper really

It amazes me how companies can come up with design to make something more complicated, expensive, and less reliable than the original design and pawn it off to people as BETTER!! lol To me this rifle is scrap metal!

@Chris-fd4kh

Жыл бұрын

Everyone wants the folding stock, side charger, piston and quick change barrels in an AR platform. With as much parts interchangeability as possible.

@roul3688

Жыл бұрын

In principle it was a good idea. A lot of people prefer a side charger over the t-handle and most people would rather have a folding stock over a non-folding stock. I think they could’ve invented a whole new rifle since most everything is proprietary anyways, instead of tweaking an AR

@nobodyspecial1852

Жыл бұрын

People that can't swap parts around and be happy with an AR because of features such as: side-charging, piston operation, folding stock that doesn't compromise the operating system, more robust build (arguable except the gas system and bolt).... just get an AK. Hate AKs? Go buy a high dollar semi custom that you can like.

@sleigh4019

Жыл бұрын

Yeah ..F'ers innovating and making new guns..its BS!!! Unreal

@leroyatleroys

Жыл бұрын

They also make parts for a more traditional AR format. I have one of their uppers with an ambi AR lower. It's my main rifle. Those seem to work well. I definitely prefer the charger being closer to my hand.

I was originally wanting the mike-15 because u love the idea of being able to fold the stock as well as the side charging, and the idea of something a little different from the typical ar15 but this turns me away a little bit, so thank you for the info. Great video as always mac

@JacksonCarter-hh7hd

4 ай бұрын

FM 15 is more reliable than the 102, don't let this video put u off FM my gen 2 is great

@hughjazz2408

3 ай бұрын

@@JacksonCarter-hh7hddo you have 5k rounds thur it tho? I’m wanting an fm9

@spartancrown

3 ай бұрын

@@hughjazz2408I’ve had zero issues with either the FM9 or FM45 and I’m not sure how many rounds through either but more than enough to not feel concerned.

@rustyricky6684

3 ай бұрын

My FM15 (11.5”) has 3,500 -3,700 rounds through it currently and I’ve had literally zero issues! Bought it through AIMsurplus during Black Friday 2 years ago… love it! But it is quite different from this 102 model. Mine also is the Gen2 version with the adjustable gas block, and 90-95% of rounds fired through it have been suppressed, making the gun run dirtier than without a “can” on the end…. Again, I’ve had ZERO issues

Reinforcing the doubts I had while watching Brownells talk it up.. answered some questions as well. I did visit the site… tons of AR9 stuff… limited rifle items.

@jasonneumann1678

5 ай бұрын

I was pondering the same. I wanted something contained like that, plus the slap mod was interesting. This was like 7 months ago and was stated it would be out in production in a few months. Haven't seen it anywhere on Brownells or on their site. Is it neat, sure, but unless you're gonna stock up on parts. Forget about it.

I have the 9 inch 223. After 60 rounds it wouldn’t fire anymore, they end up replacing the bolt carrier. The top of the carrier was rubbing against the inside surface of the upper receiver.

I just got an upper. I delt with a few of the issues mentioned but the one that one i had issues was after it got hot, it got finicky loading rounds n extracting. Feild stripped it n removed more cosmoline, added more oil and got hot. Had a lot better run with less issues, not perfect. Please bring a 5.7 uppers to market next

I don’t quite understand why one would want an AR style rifle in 5.56 that takes AK mags? It makes sense in 7.62x39 due to how the round stacks and a quality issue with x39 AR style mags over 10 rounds.

@leroyatleroys

Жыл бұрын

While there probably isn't a large group of people who would want a rifle specifically like this, it is still good to have at least a few odd rifles in the market. In world where everyone and their mother makes an AR pattern rifle these days, it's just good to see someone try something else. Personally, I am very familiar with the AR platform and have tons of AR mags, so I stick with that. But there might be an ak guy out there who mostly collects AK's but wants to experiment with a more AR patterned rifle. Maybe that guy has a bunch of 102 mags and just doesn't want to drop the money on a whole new set of AR mags when the ones he has work just fine. This rifle won't appeal to everyone. But Foxtrot Mike already makes an FM-15 as well as numerous parts and uppers that are designed to work with standard nato mags. So what's the harm in trying to accommodate a group that is probably largely ignored by the industry if they can afford the tooling for it?

I use a titanium fire pin and regular extractor so I don’t get primer strikes, works well

I've been looking for a side charging ar upper for a while and I've found that the Gibbz arms system is one of the better ones solely because it uses all AR15 parts except for just the proprietary cam pin. Downside is that it's a bit heavy.

@mikemccauley8089

Жыл бұрын

Bear Creek Arsenal has side chargers that are pretty good, not sure about the parts, very reasonable prices also

@spartancrown

Жыл бұрын

I have a FM45 and a BCA 300blk side charging upper like both of them. My only complaint with the BCA is I wish I could get left side charging right side ejecting.

@mikemccauley8089

Жыл бұрын

@@spartancrown they have them now(Bear Creek)pretty new

@spartancrown

Жыл бұрын

@@mikemccauley8089 must be like brand new because I’m practically on their site daily. Checking on whatever deals the send my way.

@jasonneumann1678

5 ай бұрын

Got a Gibbs Arms upper for my AK build, because I didn't want to buy PSA. IMO, money well spent.

Gives a whole new meaning to "you'll shoot your eye out".

I feel close to the same way. I waited years to get a Sig 556 rifle. Now I have to get parts made or buy used parts. If I can find them. Like the rifle still, just not a go to one.

@KevinAdams-zr6bz

Жыл бұрын

Nothing beats standard USGI parts compatibility as much as humanly possible.

Best of both worlds to this gun would be the BRN-180. Side charger, buffer-less, and uses standard AR mags and reliable AF.

@idontwanttoputmyname403

Жыл бұрын

If you’re wanting side charging and takes ar mags then you can get a regular FM-15 you know.

@vicdiaz5180

Жыл бұрын

@@idontwanttoputmyname403 the BRN-180 is a proven trusted design and the Make a modern version

@jason200912

Жыл бұрын

But the bad part is lower quality precision Barrel and much higher price tag

@idontwanttoputmyname403

Жыл бұрын

@@vicdiaz5180 I actually slightly misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant that would be the best thing to do with this gun in the video. My mistake.

@walkerofpauls2710

Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen one combat video featuring the BRN and it jammed a ton. Not the greatest for mud.

I built and SBR'd a lower which I intended to get a 12.5 inch ARAK21 upper from Faxon Firearms. They since stopped making them. The only company that I found that made a 12.5 inch self contained upper was Foxtrot Mike. Would have preferred a Jakl upper or definitely a Virtus upper. But none available with a 12.5 inch barrel. I wanted to stay with the 12.5 inch instead of sending the AFT a letter to edit my stamp. So I'm stuck with the FM15 upper for now. Haven't shot it yet.

My FM has had two extractor failure in 2000 rounds or so. First was replaced free. Second cost $35. Now it a safe queen that I only pull out to show people. I don’t feel like screwing with it all the time.

1 point locking mags are easy to not lock if inserted, whereas 2 point locking mags are impossible to not lock in once it's inserted. This is more true with a full mag with the bolt home. I also see issues with 1 point mags having over insertion issues, which is again impossible with 2 points

@KevinAdams-zr6bz

Жыл бұрын

Both types have advantages and disadvantages. AK74 mags in particular vary greatly in tolerances by manufacturer so you can have problems similar to standard AR15 mag insertion.

Man i was specifically told to never use the firing pin for dissassembly in the corp

@mboyk7768

6 ай бұрын

That's why you take this dude advice with a grain of salt

What's the best "non-ar15"? SCAR? brn180? Mini 14? AK47? Ak12?

Nice on deleting comments

@Wimmig43at339

2 ай бұрын

Chances are it’s probably KZread’s algorithm.

Apart from all the problems and issues mentioned, how was the rifle?

Thank you, almost pulled the trigger on purchasing until I viewed your review. Always repect your opinion on firearms!

@gordon5008

6 ай бұрын

You should still get one. My two have been just fine. Replace the pin and spring with a mil spec AR-15 part.

I have worked with many people that dont have the necesary skills. I call them “ use a bigger hammer”. That said that upper has too many issues for me to purchase. You saved me $800.00. Thank you that paper was really off the chart. I watched the Brownells interview and went to buy the upper. I was in checkout when your video appeared. Thank you again.

@janesanglee8735

8 ай бұрын

Ha that’s good timing

I had problems with my FM 15 upper

@toynazi

Жыл бұрын

Me too. NEVER AGAIN.

@Nathan-jh1ho

Ай бұрын

What problems?

Hmmm but they left a comment too explain everything and left a message and yes it doesn’t work like a standard ar because well it’s not a standard ar so taking it apart and re assembling will be different and probably more difficult. You somehow have the worst luck I mean I’ll probably be blocked after this but idk how many “defects” one person can get 🤦‍♂️ this again is not a mil spec but you can use a mil spec pin if replacing the whole thing you can’t you a mil spec pin if you just use their parts with it so you can make the firearm run again if this happened I mean they worked hard on this system and you’re reading into a little to much and every gun says clean their gun at so many rounds 300-500-1000 so whatever this is not for the person who has one firearm and their first ar who would decide too go outside of mil spec learning for their first ar you missed the whole reason for this and what it’s for it could be a great tool for service in the field if you know what it’s for and how it works a little better I mean what if you buffer tube spring broke? Gun won’t run on a mil spec this will did we miss that?

I was looking hard at these but not now! I guess I expected something more user friendly. Side note: what sight was that??

I saw a earlier video where the charging handle had the hk slap? All the recent videos I've seen haven't talked about it. So have they not gone through with that?

Why would anyone ever buy an MCX for $2600 or a dissent for $1900 when they have this option.

Jeeze. Fighting with that recoil spring gave me flashbacks to my Walther P22. I freaking hated that gun bc it was so dang hard to get back together. They even included some stupid plastic dowel rod to help the spring from kinking. Why companies choose to include parts to make up for poor designs instead of just building a better gun is beyond me.

Good, thx

If i can't open it out the box run it hard and if something does happen to go wrong or break and I can't fix it with relative ease i don't want it period

Nope. I have a few AR's and a few BRN-180's. Thought about FMs in the past, but the weird proprietary nature of the guns and the many references to poor QC are a deal breaker. Good video Tim, thanks.

Thanks!

@Militaryarmschannel

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

Is there a discount code for infinity targets? The code above is for challenge targets which does not stock the infinity targets?

I've never heard of this gun before. Now I see why. LOL

Sticking with my brn 180 and hopefully the psa jackal is reliable.

@MrJacobjj84

Жыл бұрын

i have alot more faith that psa is going to be around long enough to actual fix things too

Was gonna say I kinda feel bad for these guys. They tried something new, good on em. The cam-pin situation is unforgivable.

@03Grunt-arrino

Жыл бұрын

OOOOOFF! Wasn’t even to the replaceable extractor pin yet hahaha! Damn. Thanks for the video Tim!

@KevinAdams-zr6bz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! As I said in my post, in my opinion, FMs testing and quality control leave something to be desired. One of many reasons why I usually stick to proven AR15 designs.

Damn, he deleted the comment from Foxtrot Mike lol.

@3gunandy

Жыл бұрын

Can't show any other sides of the story that's not how the internet works, obviously.

@Zastava1994

Жыл бұрын

What did their comment say?

@FullSpectrumWarrior

8 ай бұрын

What did they say

Just received the upper today and seen the paper. Now watching the video and what it actually means, I will be sending it back to primary arms. No where did it mention anything like that. Which makes it so aggravating. Have to look into other uppers to complete my build using this kind of setup.

I have an FM9 and the 13.9 FM15 from Primary Arms both the weapons and the company have been excellent.

@PJ_Perry

Жыл бұрын

Clearly paid to say that 😂 jk jk

@spartancrown

Жыл бұрын

Same. FM45 from PA has been bullet proof.

@jordanrivas1014

Жыл бұрын

@@PJ_Perry then send me my check!

@LangstonDev

6 ай бұрын

When you say the company has been excellent, you mean you've contacted them since you've had the guns?

Sounds like the CMMG Dissent would be a better option if you want all the same capabilities with an internal piston gun.

For my home defense I have the foxtrot mike 9 mm carbine which was built around the Glock magazine. So far so good for me. reliable, accurate, handles nicely and takes the same glock magazines as my kriss vector and glock 26 which I keep all in the same safe ... so utilitarian

i wonder if this thing can be converted to 5.45x39 or if the FM lower that Brownells sells can be built up to accept ak74 mags and in 5.45

@levinlevinallday

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I can't see why not. For years, people were converting bulgarian AK74s to 556 so I tend to think this wouldn't be hard as long as it accepts regular ar15 barrels. 556 and 545 mags are interchangeable in the magwell. The conversion followers are getting popular again.

Watching before placing a bid on one of these. I have dozens of 223 AK mags for a Saiga, so this seemed interesting. Not so much after watching the video. I appreciate the information. Saved me a chunk of coin and potentially a bunch of irritation

I still want one! Have you seen the Bilson Arms Pump activated AR?? 2024 release super cool!

That sucks I was thinking about picking one of these up... maybe I'll wait till Gen 5

Until now I was considering getting a FM 556 pistol, but now I am back to having a serious doubt.

Do you happen to know if the lower on these fit a regular AR15 upper?

I don’t understand making an AR pattern rifle with proprietary parts and takes AK mags in 556. What am I missing here? I can see if it was chambered in 7.62x39mm

Personally, I just like rock and lock magazines because they are theoretically easier to rip out with some leverage in certain harsh conditions since there is hardly a magwell. Not that I live in a place where a magazine will have ice form up in the magwell and freeze it in place or something, but I still think it's rather nice, even if it means slower reloading.

@boomerisadog3899

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why someone would rather accept even a small annoyance for a theoretical advantage you're unlikely to ever have the opportunity to use.

Is this a Gen1? The Gen2 docs say the same thing about the pin, but “The FM-15 Gen 2 firing pin & reset spring are compatible with all mil-spec M16/M4 pattern bolts”

It really seems like a solid design if they can modify it. Sounds like they threw it together, didn't test it enough and now have a ton of stock they need to sell. Hopefully they don't go out of business and can redesign this system to be reliable and more forgiving for disassembly.

@KevinAdams-zr6bz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I suspect that the design would have benefited greatly by more testing before mass production.

@janesanglee8735

8 ай бұрын

😂yup and primary arms is saying I’m sorry for advertising this hardcore. Tbh if they sold this at a discount now I would buy one haha $400 🎉

So If I were to buy 2 of these id have 1 to crap on and 1 to wipe with 😂 thanks for the up to date and truthful info

Thanks Tim, had it not been for the price I probably would have bought this upper receiver as I really like the side charge handle and no buffer, spring, tube, ect. I would have been pissed. Does it come with a "Jesus" clip too? (NO, not a magazine)

I have Foxtrot Mike FMP 556 1st generation with the free-floating mil-spec firing pin and 16-inch barrel. Since it has a non-adjustable gas block, I had too much gas accessing the bolt carrier while shooting suppressed. I contacted Foxtrot Mike and they provided me free of charge a new recoil spring, which has helped to shoot this weapon suppressed better. IMHO, Foxtrot Mike should have stayed with 1st generation of their FM 556. With more complexity, more problems occur.....

Can you do another follow up video on the paper and show us the 2 hour glass pins please?

Thanks for making these video's, i bet they see this and open there eyes. It dont prevent me from wanting one tho lol

@j.anthonyk1730

9 ай бұрын

My experience was different, I have an FM-15 though. There are a lot of rifles on the market with proprietary parts, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing though. Even for my regular AR's I have extra springs, extractor, FP and BCG.

I would love to see a side by side between this, the KS-47, and the Mutant. I love my KS-47

@bmrz38

Жыл бұрын

There are vids out there that compare several ARs in 762x39 and the ks47 is a standout.

@nucleargrizzly1776

Жыл бұрын

My KS-47 has become my go to hog gun. Didn't expect that when I bought it.

@bronzeguy9839

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@bmrz38Yeah, the KS47 stands out because everyone complains that they wish it had LRBHO and bolt lock/release. I prefer my PWS 7.62x39 over my KS47.

I can hear that it’s not even through the break in period, or he hasn’t lubed the charging handle when he brings it back. It shouldn’t be that loud. Mine is well broken in, and there’s a very slight sound, but not like that. Also, it’s not that hard to take the recoil spring in or out, he clearly just didn’t take any time to watch one of their videos. It’s really not that hard. I will say, I find my method easier. If you palm an Allan wrench with your middle and ring fingers, push down with your whole hand covering the back plate, you simply hold the plate as you ease the tension off the spring, and BAM! No “lost” parts. I don’t understand what parts he could’ve lost in the process. The only things that can go flying are the back plate and spring assembly, none of which are so small that you can’t find, unless you’re incredibly lazy. The bolt will stay in there as long as the upper is face down, which it should be for disassembly. And changing the charging handle position isn’t hard either. I removed the charging handle to paint mine(just use an ear plug to cover the hole in the upper). As far as the bolt situation goes, my understanding is that most of the parts he’s complaining about can be replaced with mil-spec parts. But hey, you do you.

@bolt2029

11 ай бұрын

I just bought an upper, and was playing around with replacing the firing pin and extractor pin in the bolt. Ditching the spring loaded firing pin. Have you tried it out? Replacing the extractor pin every 1000 rounds is stupid. IMO

Sounds a lot like the Sig 516 that I sold because I couldn’t get replacement parts for it.

@twelvepercentitalian2511

Жыл бұрын

@@mendelevium3761 Except the most important parts that make it run.

All that proprietary, short-lived stuff and persnickety procedures, and on top of that it takes AK mags...sounds like this thing was designed by a committee whose members were all on different continents.

So are these pitfalls unique to the Mike 102 or is the Mike 15 similarly “flawed”?

Im relieved that I didn't buy one. But disappointed i cant get the Zhukov adapter..

It's "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

The barrel and nut are temp fitted?

So they fixed All the Many Problems the AR15 doesnt have!

thanks

MAC, can confirm the frustrations with the proprietary aspect of this rifle. After 300 rds through my own 102 I said to hell with it. I removed and threw away the firing pin spring (has not affected function) and I replaced the extractor pin with a typical milspec extractor pin *insert shocked pikachu face* it didn’t affect function either. Additionally, the ball bearing and spring safety detent system was completely removed and replaced with a standard AR detent and spring. The gun inherently has an excess of “features” that weren’t necessary.

@jason200912

Жыл бұрын

So did the features actually cause jams or did you just personally hate new features

@jaydubya9496

Жыл бұрын

@@jason200912 Their improved safety detent ended up seizing and I couldn’t place the weapon on safe. Also the “1000” round life of their extractor pins was actually 200 or less. It’s not that I hate new features, but reinventing some of the wheels like they did wasn’t necessary imo.

@leroyatleroys

Жыл бұрын

While it is true that Foxtrot Mike does do a lot of experimentation with parts here and there, some can actually be considered improvements. As for the firing pin reset spring, it is simply meant to mitigate the potential of a discharge triggered by inertia. All the AR pattern rifles that I have handled have free floating pins. It's not a big deal. However, seeing that tiny "kiss" on the primer just from.having it chambered always made me slightly uneasy. Even when I was active duty. Never had an unintentional discharge from it, but I actually like the feature. And if you can simply take the spring out if it breaks, then what harm comes with having it? Especially when the parts and rifles come at such a competitive price point? I am personally happy that people still try to experiment with new concepts to see what works and what doesn't. Sig does it all the time and practically beta tests on the general public to work out the kinks. Yet so many people give then a pass because they are a "premium" brand. While I do feel that Foxtrot Mike has a few quirks to work out in their product, I actually quite like several of their features.

@jaydubya9496

Жыл бұрын

@@leroyatleroys Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy having the rifle. It was just from my end user experience some of the things that I was replacing seemed like I shouldn’t have to have replaced them for the milspec parts I ran for thousands of rounds on issued rifles with no issues

@leroyatleroys

Жыл бұрын

@justinwical9496 Fair enough. I am running a 13.9 pinned & welded FM upper on a SilencerCo Ambi AR lower. So I don't have quite the same issues. I haven't really experienced any issues with that setup yet. But only time will tell. I just know that I really want to see that company grow. Sometimes producing something different can lead to something truly innovative.

Mac..Or anyone who truly knows: what do you recommend for someone wanting an AR but a side charging system? A go to?

@Militaryarmschannel

Жыл бұрын

I see no reason to not use the t-handle unless you have a physical limitation that would make it hard to use.

All the SIGs have "proprietary" parts, lots of military guys running those.

@jpap967

4 ай бұрын

Well-designed and proprietary, vs Poorly-designed and proprietary

Well you actually forgot to say that the first FM15 uses a normal bolt assembly with out the hour glass pin for the spring firing pin and you can actually use any ar15 bolt assembly I actually try it with one from a milspec and I also have one with the special firing pin with spring that uses the hr glass pin . And I ask FM products and they said if you don’t want to you can use a traditional one . Weird you never notice that since you can tell the bolt assembly is that of a normal AR15 . Not defending them but considering you willing to modify the CZ bren 2 7.63x39 that you haven’t just try putting a normal firing pin into the bolt assembly

If you research what you are buying and learn how it operates the Foxtrot Mike products are solid. I have seen his / FtM stuff and learned about why and how this rifle is different at Kalashbashtx

I really thought these were cool after seeing other videos about them and was kind of waiting for them to come out with something in 7.62, which they had been promising in a few months. I was trying to decide between this and something like the 5.56 Templar because I wanted something different and cool. I really appreciate the honest thoughts and information that others had omitted.

@shawnsanders9450

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was interested in a different type of AK in 7.62x39 as well. One that had AR features and am REALLY hoping it has a true last round bolt hold open as that is my biggest gripe with the AK. However. If I am replacing parts every couple thousand rounds that's garbage. That's the very reason I didn't get a PSA KS47 because of the extractor issue. I have a PWS AR in 7.62x39 and its truly great but its a true AR. I wanted a hybrid that takes AK mags. I can get a CMMG but damn its expensive and no true last round bolt hold open. Charging handle in the back is stupid on that setup. It should be a side Charging on the left side. Other than that the CMMG is really awesome and would last forever. I really want a AR/AK hybrid with a true last round bolt hold open. Bolt that will last practically forever. CHF Chrome lined barrel that shoots sub MOA with match ammo. Under 7lbs un loaded. Durability like a well built AK with reliability, ergos and accuracy like a well built AR.

@almaadams3631

11 ай бұрын

​@@shawnsanders9450PWS long stroke piston upper in 762×39. 7.5" 11.5" 16" barrels. Stick with Duramags and you will be a happy guy. I have the 11.5" at the moment. It is the best 762×39 platform. (although I am also fond of VZ58s with modern furniture,rails and optics)

@shawnsanders9450

11 ай бұрын

@@almaadams3631 yeah I think mine is a 10.85" and yes Duramag is all I run in it. Only time it wasn't reliable was when I turned the gas setting to far down.

@almaadams3631

11 ай бұрын

@@shawnsanders9450 You don't mean a BRN 180 do you? PWS has been making piston uppers for about 15 years now. The BRN 180 is a short stroke, reciprocating charging handle, bufferless design. Look up: PWS MK 111 mod2 762x39.

@shawnsanders9450

11 ай бұрын

@@almaadams3631 no. I have a MK111 mod 1 in 7.62x39. I was wrong when I said I think its a 10.85". Its not a 10.85". It's a 11.85" Obviously they are rounding down rather than up for some reason. They should call it MK112 but whatever. Lol.

What sight is that?

Good points made here. I will add that the design of the recoil spring system bothers me. Ideally, you want the recoil spring in line with the force of the bolt thrust - like a normal ar15. This one has the spring in line with the gas tube instead, which is where you want it for a piston system. The spring placement combined with the short bolt carrier seems like a recipe for uneven wear inside the upper receiver. I will also add that the ‘hourglass’ extractor pins have that shape to make room for the firing pin spring. If you want, you can put in a standard firing pin and extractor pin.

Fixing consumables is key