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@kshadehyaena

3 жыл бұрын

TotalAV is questionable at best. Malwarebytes rates it as potentially unwanted application. It is also sold as "Scanguard" and "PCProtect", which have the same reputation And it just plain isn't good at its job as well. Please don't work with the company behind these products, ProtectedNet Group Ltd , again, they don't deserve it.

@meetoo594

3 жыл бұрын

@@kshadehyaena Yeah, very shady outfit, all the genuine reviews of their products are not good with loads complaining about money taken from accounts without permission. I wouldnt trust them to run a bath, let alone the security on my PC.

@rogerm1111

3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame to see you promoting TotalAV, which is a terrible antivirus. Any big name antivirus will do a much better job of protecting computers. Also worth nothing is that, even if you buy it with a discount, your TotalAV subscription will renew in a year at the full price, which is very expensive. There are quite a few excellent antiviruses for Windows PCs, but TotalAV is not one of them.

@wettuga2762

3 жыл бұрын

TotalAV looks awfully similar to AVG/Avast, which have a very negative reputation due to selling user information to 3rd parties. Let's hope it's just a coincidence, and not another clone of those awful AVs...

@meetoo594

3 жыл бұрын

@@wettuga2762 This lot are far worse than Avast (never used avg so don't know about them). At least Avast actually protects your pc and they don't steal your money. I just use Win 10 built in virus thingy nowadays as it seems to work as well as any other, but I previously used Avast for over 10 years without issue so they cant be that bad. 3rd parties already have whatever Avast can harvest anyway (via facebook, google etc) so its not that much of a concern tbh.

It's harder to get away from Google than it is Microsoft these days.

@jothain

3 жыл бұрын

True, but gotta admit that Google knows their shit. They have really solid stuff. Lol, writing from Chrome to YT 😂

@onometre

3 жыл бұрын

I've never felt a reason to get away from either

@jothain

3 жыл бұрын

@@onometre I don't know what it's all about fearing Google so much. Yeah, sure they collect tons of data from users. But what about something like Facebook? In my books Google is way better than FB.

@RetroMMA

3 жыл бұрын

@@jothain You're totally cool with them reading your email, knowing every place you go, your driving habits, how much money you make, who you sleep with, censorship, etc?

@rickyspanish4792

3 жыл бұрын

google has the power to transform culture, to decide who gets elected (together with facebook, btw), etc, that's TOO MUCH POWER. dangerous stuff and I hope the world will start recognizing this danger asap.

Windows 2000 is my favorite windows too, it’s nice and clean. No waste of screenspace. No background processes that slow down your machine. It’s windows as it’s supposed to be.

@CommodoreFan64

3 жыл бұрын

Same, followed by 98SE(fully updated, and because of that era of gaming 9X/DOS gaming it handles so well), and then XP SP3(also that era of PC gaming). after that it just kept on going downhill for me till Windows 10 finally broke me, and I moved full time to Manjaro MATE Linux on all my main machines with Neverware Cloudready OS Home Edition(Chromium OS that still has full Google sync) for the family who only do simple task on our older Thinkpads.

@StarlasAiko

3 жыл бұрын

Windows 3.11 is what it is supposed to be...an add-on to the OS that you can just as easily do without and allows you to actually delete all the unwanted elements it comes packaged with

@dylanrush184

3 жыл бұрын

After Windows 2000 Microsoft slowly realized the could sell parts of their operating system and sell real estate in their operating system

@crhu319

3 жыл бұрын

I used it for about 8 years.

@zz3709

2 жыл бұрын

I used Win2k for over 20 years, because I'm still using it in 2 PCs today. They're for dedicated functions so never had a need to DOWNgrade to XP etc.

The limit for 32-bit colour at that resolution is because of the amount of "video" memory assigned to your VM. You can increase that.

At the rate they're going ReactOS will be ready to go by 2121.

@nusaqib

3 жыл бұрын

Right. Still at 0.4.13

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

Doubtful, they've pretty much run out of illegal leaks to steal from.

@xAffan

3 жыл бұрын

@@supermaster2012 they dont use leaks though, its reverse engineering through clean room design and it uses wine under the hood

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

@@xAffan those macro names are not public, which immediately invalidates any claim of clean room (which is still illegal both in the EU and the US anyway) reimplementation. Also, it does NOT use wine under the hood and that's a claim even the maintainers make themselves. Do yourself a favour and check my top level comment which contains plenty of proof this project is nothing but outright theft from a 2003 NT Kernel leak.

@xAffan

3 жыл бұрын

@@supermaster2012 i would support you but microsoft is also outright theif. Immense amount of data logging is enabled by default in windows 10 and theres no way you can disable it. Even if you get enterprise, some data will still be collected. You arent even sure what is being collected so that opens up possibility for an open source trustable OS which is what reactOS aims to be

Same here. My A4000T was my main machine until about 2005. It was such and amazing computer. I still miss it.

@kenkelvin4023

3 жыл бұрын

Linux won’t work I had to use FreeBSD +IceWM

@ShamblerDK

3 жыл бұрын

I spent hundreds of dollars upgrading my A1200. Recently ditched the floppy drive because some of the 25+ year old disks were starting to go really bad. Running all floppy images off of a single USB key.

@VladIDrago

3 жыл бұрын

ReactOS=Windows XP huha... .

The #1 problem with ReactOS (IMO) is that they seem to be stuck at the idea of targeting XP and not supporting anything post-XP. That means running most modern software on it is a real pain and its even harder to get it running on any kind of modern hardware (since it doesn't support WDDM and other hardware interfaces that modern drivers need)

@SergeantExtreme

2 жыл бұрын

That's because they literally have zero development. After the early 2000s, people simply stopped contributing to this project and focused on Linux instead.

@minuteworld7027

2 жыл бұрын

skyrim works and they just added 64bit support

@fierelier7691

2 жыл бұрын

i don't think the lack of focus on implementing newer things is a problem. think about it, windows is something that continuously had things added, not much was removed. so focusing on XP for now, and then focusing on vista+ compat later (which is what they're doing) is kind of necessary. also, a lot of great programs are available for XP if you go looking (NewMoon for browsing, WinSCP for SFTP, FireAlpaca for drawing, VLC, 7-zip, etc). things are not so bad as they seem on XP. and don't forget that you can just use older software. a lot of the time, that's absolutely fine. though devices that need vista+ drivers will just not fully work for a while.

@polocatfan

2 жыл бұрын

as obvious said they're just a few people so they're focusing on a smaller goal

@osgeld

2 жыл бұрын

could be worse 20 years ago they were targeting 95 and never made any headway it seems

Windows 98 was also my reason for leaving my Amiga behind. And I agree, Windows 2000 was Microsoft's slickest Windows ever.

Still a winamp fan to this day. I've yet to find a replacement that meets or exceeds it in quality and features.

@BLOB_DYLAN

3 жыл бұрын

Wow!! I didn’t know it still existed...it’s the reason I clicked on this vid

@Noyjitat

3 жыл бұрын

There’s actually a new Winamp project you can sign up for emails on. But yes you can still download and use it in windows 10 etc.

@robertgray703

3 жыл бұрын

Media monkey isn't a bad replacement

@tychobra1

3 жыл бұрын

I've replaced Winamp long ago with foobar2000. I'm sure you know this, but I'm mentioning it here anyway, because I'm curious why this is not a good replacement in your opinion :-)

@dj_inclusion

3 жыл бұрын

I love Winamp, so use it to this day as well.

Windows 7 was my favorite desktop environment. I wish we could have just stayed on that, but with security/driver/api updates. I don't like what Microsoft is doing with the operating system at all anymore, though. Unfortunately, unlike productivity software, you can't just replace a game with another program and call it good. And most of my computer use is for gaming. WINE recently had a big update though, so I'm going to check that out...

@eyeflaps

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Once 8 came around I knew it was going to get worse from there. I was not a fan of that metro UI nonsense and the lack of a start menu. Hated Universal windows apps. Hated Cortana. Hated forced windows updates. Hated it all. Refuse to use any edition 8-11. I'm still using 7 and it works perfectly fine for me.

@somesalmon5694

Жыл бұрын

Being using Linux as my daily driver for a year now and personally I have found its made computing fun and adventurous again. I went from arch to artix to gentoo and stuck there for about 4 months now. I love learning about the ins and outs of my computer and everything on windows has a more powerful and customizable open source alternative. I really enjoy the keyboard centric tiling window managers. I recently switched to sway and find it very stable. I haven't had to reinstall or experienced any crashes since my switch :)

@Psycandy

Жыл бұрын

all my systems are win7. just means my machines are all pre-2016, but they run all the new software without issues.

@encycl07pedia-

Жыл бұрын

Windows peaked with 7. I actually didn't find 8 to be all that bad, but people were upset because they moved far too much around. One job I had had Windows 8 on the work machines there. They looked like they belonged in Nickelodeon Studios or a kid's corner in a library. It was comical how badly they blundered with the arts-and-crafts UI on a business-oriented OS. Windows 10 dialed it back but it still looked ugly. All the flat, lifeless icons look like they hired artists with zero imagination. Windows XP and and 7 looked alive and vibrant.

@thedevilsadvocate5210

Жыл бұрын

It was just a coincidence win 7 support just happened to stop when the pandemic started

ReactOS looks interesting, but they were building it for decades and it's still not really stable or usable. Every time I look at it I get a feeling by the time it will run WinXP - Win 7 software nicely it will only be used for retro computing purposes. All the best wishes to devs though. Hope you're having fun reverse engineering all those proprietary OS subsystems :)

@sauliuskrasuckas4355

2 жыл бұрын

It's because not enough people help them. "First you give, then you get"

@theraven.4

2 жыл бұрын

@@sauliuskrasuckas4355 Unfortunately, that is not going to apply in this case. Most people would rather use Wine and make their Linux system look similar to Windows. Especially since it has been around 18 years at this point. People only invest in things they stand to benefit from. Most people who would support would have already moved to Linux.

@christopher480

2 жыл бұрын

wow ....i had to go thru sooooo many comments to finially get to this one, where the person actually knows what they are talking about.

@JanuszKrysztofiak

2 жыл бұрын

They are chasing a target that is faster than themselves. From a practical point of view, it has always been a doomed effort.

@youtubesuresuckscock

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that people ultimately don't use computers to wait around for stuff to be released. They're going to keep making new versions of APIs like Direct3D, and something like this will inherently always be behind, and you don't buy a $2,000 video card to wait years for people to reverse engineer new APIs.

The programmers working on ReactOS are probably learning heaps, and that's a great outcome in itself. But when a project hasn't emerged from alpha status after a quarter of a century, you really need to reassess your goals. Medieval cathedrals were built over the course of several lifetimes, but that's not a sustainable project plan for a desktop operating system.

@Pocket-Calculator

2 жыл бұрын

The development stalled for almost 10 years. Then they had to go back and check manually every single line of code because a programmer might have used proprietary Microsoft code illegally. The way they're developing this is slow since they have a team studying how something work, writing documentation about it and another one trying to reimplement it. This is, of course, to avoid Microsoft lawsuits. Cuple that with the fact that there are a lot of undocumented behavior, and it's obvious why it's taken so long.

@brianvogt8125

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pocket-Calculator - That is the reason, not an excuse. The simple fact is that ReactOS doesn't seem to have entered the year 2000 (in Windows terms) yet. If I wanted something that looks like Windows XP, I'd just use one of my XP systems - it works very well, unlike ReactOS did here.

@Pocket-Calculator

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianvogt8125 You're not supposed to use ReactOS. They even say as much by telling users that it's for testing and development purposes only. ReactOS is an amazing feat of reverse engineering carried out by students and researchers with little to no funding. I'm sorry that you can't play your videogames or watch "funny" Facebook memes. ReactOS as a project still has value, even if only an educational tool for developers. ReactOS is both libre software and free of spyware, which makes it even more valuable.

@brianvogt8125

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pocket-Calculator - Your continued excuse-making is simply a reflection of the fact that the project (which was originally to provide a freeware alternative to Windows) has achieved so little that the product is worth nothing more than a disclaimer. If students get some value out of it, I wish them well, but the initial vision is clearly lost. A product can be "even more valuable" only if it works; otherwise it forces me to another system for useful work.

@stfuomgdude

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianvogt8125 Yeah, you and PlayerClarinet are absolutely right. The calculator guy has his head up his ass. It's fine to be a fan of a project, but it's clear that the project is highly impractical and unlikely to reach its original goal, even if it's a neat idea and an impressive feat of reverse-engineering.

Hopefully the ReactOS guys get an appreciation of how massive a task Windows is; the breath of device support is truly incredible.

@coreyreichle1921

2 жыл бұрын

It's less that Windows is a massive task to complete, it's more that the source is closed, and everything has to be reverse engineered. Because, even with "Standards compliant" APIs, MS always played fast and loose with standards, to ensure it broke compatibility with other OSs.

@statinskill

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody is going to rewrite the thousands of windows drivers out there. Instead the idea is to build the same driver interfaces these drivers use in ReactOS. Then you load the same driver in ReactOS that you would use with Windows.

@Zcooger

2 жыл бұрын

ROS team just announced that DirectX 9 stack is working on it with real hardware!!

@fattyz1

Жыл бұрын

It comes down to what the Mac users always said it just works. I don’t wanna have to run to the internet every time I plug something in to try and get it to work

@residentgrey

Жыл бұрын

Windows is not to thank for the support. That would be the hundreds of developers for the hardware.

Mate, if you want higher resolutions and colours you need to give the VM more than 4MB of video memory.

@RainerK.

3 жыл бұрын

It had 32MB, what are you talking about?

@Vlad-1986

3 жыл бұрын

@@RainerK. Oh yeah!. Well, 32Mb is plenty for 1080 and 32bit colour, so then I have no idea why of the resolution. Maybe it is VirtualBox fault... I stopped using it years ago because crap like that (and tiny view area when you are using a terminal in DOS)

@nadadada3938

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 You need to install some Virtual Box drivers to actually let you use higher resolutions

@datavalisofficial8730

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadadada3938 yea

@datavalisofficial8730

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 i built a pentium D + 4gb ddr2 machine just for testing weird operating systems and whatnot And i printed virtual box's logo onto a piece of paper and stuck it onto the case with a single piece of tape I did it with a "haha lol" mindset and to this day when i see it, it makes me laugh a little on the inside The "Non virtual box" is better than virtual box And i can run virtual box in it It currently has windows 7 crux installed

I kind of wish they’d stuck with the 95/98 target, in retrospect. While obviously, since they intended a working drop-in replacement for the current Windows of the day, which is an NT based Windows, targeting NT made sense for them, I think because of the slow pace of development, it might have been more useful to target the older DOS shell versions. Basically, if they had made a free 98 replacement, the kernel work would be done, stable, and actually have MORE features than the original, by now, in the form of FreeDOS, and they could focus on the APIs specific to the shell. There are a lot of legacy applications that could benefit from a free 98 implementation, and, when they changed to targeting NT, there were still quite a lot of 98 installs in the wild. A thriving free 98 stack would probably be quite welcome in the open source world.

Originally, it was Write. But it changed to Wordpad later and was more compatible with Word. For all of those who were clinging on to Write after the change to Wordpad, Microsoft even had a stub EXE called *write.exe* that just pointed to and opened Wordpad.

@DolganoFF

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and they dropped compatibility with old .wri files. What a stupid decision

@ez45

3 жыл бұрын

In fact, you can still run "Write" in Windows 10.

@veryboringrides3664

3 жыл бұрын

@@ez45 "In fact" you can, but if you actually tried this, you would learn that it opens the Wordpad, and the Wordpad doesn't render the old "*.wri" files properly. It looses all the fonts and formatting.

@ShiroCh_ID

3 жыл бұрын

i still love winamp tough xD

@RickRollMaster101

2 жыл бұрын

@@DolganoFF ye, it uses rich text format now (.rtf)

I created what was effectively a Start menu in the bottom left corner of the screen on the Macintosh Plus back in circa 1987. The Mac was being embedded as a kiosk interface for operating a laser rasterizing imaging machine that printed Gerber files for imaging the film which printed circuit boards are manufactured from. The Mac Plus OS had added hierarchical menus support and that facilitated taking a Start menu approach. So I beat Microsoft Windows 95 to this manner of GUI desktop by more than half a decade.

@Caseytify

2 жыл бұрын

Sure you did... {rolls eyes}

@encycl07pedia-

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Menus didn't exist before you came around. Hierarchical menus? Forget about it! I can't believe this got 41 likes.

@TheSulross

Жыл бұрын

is amazing that people that clearly don't know a damn thing about which they're talking about go and drop comments to publicly display their ignorance anyway - but such is the way of social media: i.postimg.cc/YSb1tLnh/Printed-Circuit-Board-Imager-Mac-UI.jpg

13:46 It probably reports itself as Windows Server because you set it into Server mode. I'm pretty sure it normally reports as 5.1 SP3 otherwise, which is XP SP3.

Microsoft has "1.3 million programmers" working on it but 20 to 30 year old bugs remain untouched...

@SweatySockGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder why 🧐

@david203

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I wonder if Microsoft's focus on marketing means that bug fixing has near the lowest priority of all its engineering tasks. It is amazing to search the Web for some of your favorite Windows problems and see how long the threads are and how many years back they stretch. And it's almost amusing how the initial response by "experts" is always to recommend the basic troubleshooting tools in Windows (particularly the System File Checker), which almost never fix the problem for frustrated users. These experts almost never simply replicate and confirm the problem, which would be my first step. I wonder that they don't recommend restarting the computer more often, as in the funny TV show The IT Crowd.

@imeakdo7

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's actually for backwards compatibility. Yes, many programs actually actively exploit windows' bugs.

@david203

2 жыл бұрын

@@imeakdo7 I don't understand how your reply relates to my comment.

@SweatySockGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@david203 it doesn't, it relates to the original comment

As a fun fact, ReactOS uses the same MSSTYLES format as XP, so you can actually pull the real Luna theme from the files of XP and plant it into the equivalent folder in a React installation, and it'll work! What surprised me is that the Luna theme's start button even displayed the ReactOS globe icon in place of the Windows flag when applied to React!

If ReactOS ever gets far enough that its usable for gaming, I will IMMEDIATELY replace Windows 10 on my PC. I daily drive Linux and love it but there's still that small handful of games I need Windows for.

@travis1240

3 жыл бұрын

There's no reason to think that a particular game would run better under React than under Linux/Wine.

@tomodiero7524

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know how much development resources it takes in terms of video drivers, game engine optimizations, firmware modifications it takes to just optimize and bug fix just between updates of windows, not even talking major versions. It's over, ReactOS is just a hobby a great one, but the OS battles have already been won.

@mmo0J

3 жыл бұрын

ReactOS was in development for so long (probably more than a decade) and it still does not look better than the most basic linux distro. I'm sure it still has thousands of bugs in its core functions. What i want to tell is that it needs lots of work even for being a proper OS.

@Darkest_Soul_187

3 жыл бұрын

Bro, ReactOS has been in development since Ramses II took over the throne in Ancient Egypt, and it's still useless. I wouldn't get my hopes up that it will ever replace windows

@tomodiero7524

3 жыл бұрын

@@Darkest_Soul_187 🤣🤣🤣😂

Wow! That beautiful, satisfying sound of your keyboard...

16:20 if you "steal" the XP default theme from either a repack or an XP installation online, you can actually install it onto ReactOS. The only thing that won't change is the start menu. Actually, all sorts of themes you can get online for XP work with this.

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

Because ReactOS is based on illegally stolen code form an early 2000s NT Kernel and XP leak. This project is outeight IP theft.

@lillywho

3 жыл бұрын

@@supermaster2012 That's conjecture and also has got nothing to do with its usability.

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

@@lillywho no, it's not. You can literally find the exact same macro names in ReactOS' code as in the leak, which is mathematically impossible unless they outright stole since the macros are preprocessor parsed and thus never included in any form in the output unlike function names that can be found in PDBs. They are outright thieves and deserve no platform, admiration or prise. What they deserve is jail.

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

@@ButterfatFarms right in the US federal law.

@supermaster2012

3 жыл бұрын

@@ButterfatFarms the vast majority of the small amount of people that know ReactOS are unaware of the flagrant extremely dangerous and highly illegal theft the ReactOS "team" has been committing for two decades. It is my responsibility and the responsibility of anyone else enlightened with this knowledge to ensure they are incapable of collecting illegal donations.

The task bar and the start button that Windows added in '95 were based on a piece of software called Dashboard for Windows that was available for Win 3.1 - a co-worker got it and we all installed it back in the early '90s.

I always loved the win2k visual too. The most elegant and clean among the NTs versions.

*This installs a new driver for : System device - automatically install Driver - ok - *The device could not be installed* Yup solid windows clone , right there

@MEGAMIGA

3 жыл бұрын

"Keyboard not found. Press any key to continue."

ReactOS has come a long way considering the development scale

The Windows 95 start menu and taskbar actually came from PCTools for Windows, a Windows 3 application that also had multiple desktops, multiple "offices" (groups of desktops), was multi-user and allowed you to password protect any file, desktop or office. As always, Microshaft copied what others had done before but not as well.

@linuxization4205

2 жыл бұрын

:nerd_face:

@xybersurfer

Жыл бұрын

that's interesting. i had always assumed that Microsoft invented the taskbar. cool that an application was already that far ahead

I had an Amiga 500, 2000 and a 4000. The original Quake by ID software was the game that finally made me switch from my Amiga to a PC

@Kaido_928

3 жыл бұрын

For me it was the game X-wing and alone in the dark. It was bye amiga and hello 486 🙂

Short answer: No, it can't. Not yet. Long answer: It would be great if it could and it's a fascinating project, but the people power required for it to be a Windows reimplementation ready for a production environment is just not there and progress moves very slowly. Right now, in many ways it's less than a half-baked Windows XP that runs on FAT or experimentally BTRFS and lacks a lot of features including driver support for a lot of things.

@BilisNegra

3 жыл бұрын

The short answer is the same as it has always been for over two decades. Maybe should be updated to: "It can't, and it's not really expected to". It will remain within the realm of the merely experimental for good.

@paradoxmo

3 жыл бұрын

IMO the real reason reactOS is going nowhere is because there’s not much need for it. The people who want to not use windows just use Linux, and for apps there is Wine. The only thing you need an NT kernel for is old drivers for old hardware, and most people would rather just upgrade to a new device instead of keep an old piece of hardware working.

@davehamrick5028

Жыл бұрын

@@paradoxmo Very Nice Observation and so true.

27:18 The error message you got after installing the Firefox update is related to a feature introduced in Windows 7 called "API sets," which requires kernel level support in the Windows loader for that feature to work. I really hate the API sets feature in Windows because it tends to break applications that need to work across multiple versions of Windows. Import/export tables are no longer cleanly defined by the EXE/DLLs for any given application and there is no simple mechanism to resolve API set import references (i.e. it's somewhat magical). Your experience with more up to date Firefox builds is not unexpected.

Also, I wanted to say that I put ReactOS in a Virtual Box from years and years ago and even in 2021, it's still the same thing with the same issues I had almost a decade ago

To fix your resolution, increase the Video RAM in the virtualbox

I was also a HUGE Commodore fan and my primary machines up until around 1996 were various Amigas. I just recently ordered a Raspberry Pi 400 with which I plan to turn into a modern day Amiga.

@ShamblerDK

3 жыл бұрын

Why not just get an Amiga? I just upgraded my A1200 with a purely digital HDMI output with the Indivision Mk3 :-)

@jonathont5570

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShamblerDK Well he in NYC Amiga is way to expensive (hundreds), Pi4 is about 50 dollars...

@Shawn-and-Doc

3 жыл бұрын

Pimiga 1.5 is quite the thing on the 400! Loaded with everything, and most of it works well.

@richardwicks4190

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShamblerDK Because an Amiga 1200 is very basic in comparison to a raspberry pi. I could literally use a raspberry pi as my main computer if I desired. The only real drawback are web browsers, because the are such resource hogs, but coding on it, watching videos on it, it works fine.

@LivingLinux

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardwicks4190 Just get a Pi with 4GB or 8 GB memory and make sure hardware acceleration is working.

5:26 GNU hurd looooool the existance of that always cracks me up

@MI7DJT

3 жыл бұрын

Last release was 4 years ago. We can call it a dead project.

@CommodoreFan64

3 жыл бұрын

@@MI7DJT I'd agree with that as even the website has not been updated since Feb 28, 2017 according to Google search, and mentions the 0.9 build as the latest with no stable build insight.

Great video. Thanks for the tour.

Really like the look of REACT os. Looking forwards to the release version !!!!!

Reactos was started back in 1996 , years before the leaks.

@Planetdune

2 жыл бұрын

Whatever the intention was originally, it long changed and has been shown again, and again they are using old Microsoft code. Pathetic.

@gb-channel1880

2 жыл бұрын

@@Planetdune What is 1 + 1? How do you set up an algoritm? How do you get the result?

In the VirtualBox settings have you tried increasing the screen memory to get true colour in higher resolutions?

Great video! In my small experience with it, BTRFS is a better option, since it's quite well-supported and it is an FS with modern features

Great show. I have been using Ubuntu for several years now. With Open office I have not missed MS Windows.

In that package manager I saw Glide Wrapper. I wonder if anyone got the first 3 Tomb Raider games to work using that in ReactOS.

It is possible to use KZread on Firefox 48, you just need to press the remind me later button. Also Photoshop does work in linux under wine now. Office 365 might aswell.

@Vlad-1986

3 жыл бұрын

Had no luck with it, as with VS2019 which I need for Uni. However, virtualisation of Win10 is good enough and managed to do all the year without having Windows on bare metal.. Ah, and office 365 works if you cope with the web interface... this is how I edit my project proposals from a FreeBSD machine.

@whitebeartigtig

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 tbh if I do switch from Win7 to Linux at some point I'll probably end up using Office 2010 which is known to be stable under wine. I personally can't stand the web version and have a rather unstable internet connection.

@Vlad-1986

3 жыл бұрын

@@whitebeartigtig Yeah, software as a service is evil, but I found it funny being able to edit my uni assignment from freeBSD. I didn't knew that 2010 works stable, but I have been using 97 I like the interface way more (using win95 on PCem). LibreOffice is fine, but if you use Gentoo you'll have trouble using the latest version. I also found WPS Office works super well, but it has the ribbon interface I don't like.

98SE and 7 are the two i really enjoyed using. if they had left the ability to reskin your UI to the older versions like they used to, i wouldn't mind 10 at all. I run Open Shell and that helps, but i still would rather use 7 any day of the week. Aero Glass was just a beautiful look. As for this clone. It may save us all from forced cloud gaming some day, you never know...

@nlx78

Жыл бұрын

People should take a look at Windows 11 Phoenix, a stripped down version. It's something I tried after I moved back to 10 a year ago after trying the normal 11 for maybe 2 months. Install (on SDD) but doesn't matter, was like 1/4th of time of a normal installation. Extra features, customized for people knowing what they can do with Windows and install stuff along the way (or change settings).

@nlx78

Жыл бұрын

Phoenix Lite OS it's called: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3t4udOaeLyXftY.html

@eclipsegst9419

Жыл бұрын

@@nlx78 Ill have to look into it but, man, i just want 7 back. It was just, perfection. The only thing i like better about 10 and 11 are features that could have been added to a 7 replacement without flipping over the table and making it all about touch controls for the failed All In One touchscreen PC market and failed Windows mobile. I've finally upgraded my and my son's PCs again so i now have a spare i7 5775c, the fastest CPU with 7 drivers, and i'm going to build a 7 PC and install all games older than DX12 on it, just to use the greatest OS of all time again.

@BlondieSL

Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsegst9419 I have to agree on Win7. In fact, on THIS computer I'm typing on now, which is an Asus ROG 3D laptop, with i7, nVidia with 3G of its own RAM and 25G RAM. It could handle Win10 easily, but I REFUSE to put that garbage on this machine! I've been running Win 7 Ultimate on this ROG from day 1. It's solid, stable and just no issues. In fact, now that MS has stopped updating it, I like it even more. Now, no more interruptions with updates. They do sill update MS Security Essentials, so that's something. The only thing that really bugs me, is that last week, when I launched IE 11 (that I use only for my security cameras) MS pushed a NAG to try to get me to install EDGE! I REFUSE to install EDGE on this computer. It also bugs me that since MS no longer does updates for Win7, they WHY are they still infiltrating my system with yet another NAG to install EDGE!!?? Either they are supporting Win 7 or they are not! I HATE that MS still FORCES stuff on us. Sadly, I can't go to some other operating system because everything I do requires Windows. All my CAD stuff requires Windows 10 (so my lab computer and other laptop have Win10 on them). Other programs I use for electronics and such require Windows. Oh well. Hole dug... nap time.

I worked at Xerox techical centre in the UK when they still had NeXT machines which were great and also earlier when the same site was a manufacturing site which was demolished to build the technical centre and spare factory space was used to build the Archimedes computer on which i was managing the QA, i used to reject so many plastic facia mouldings that came from a crap place in St Albans they had to lower the standard to get the numbers out. Computers were great though.

Can confirm that Windows still has Wordpad. Btw, interesting selection of programs in the app manager. GoG Galaxy? I wonder if Steam is there. Agat Emulator? I definitely did not expect to see an emulator of a soviet computer there.

@dylanrush184

3 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of React devs are Russian

Right, given this a good hammering for a while and the experience is pretty much the same as Dan's. May revisit this project in a couple of years to see how things have progressed. Great effort by the team though, it's never going to be easy to replicate a Windows OS!

Would the 32MB of video ram you gave the VM change anything about which resolutions worked with the 32 Bit colour?

I would say all it needs is Windows 7 but with DirectX 11/12 compatibility layer. ReactOS could prove very handy for running older software. Especially if it gets proper 16-bit support. Since is OpenSource and uses Wine in the backend you could also do some interesting patches to create compatibility between say older and newer software. I think it has potential to be useful as a kind of PC "WinBox".

IMO you didn't do it justice using the nightly builds. Just use 0.4.13 ... I enjoy using it to cross-compile some moonlighting Lazarus stuff to Windows, while I do my main dev in Linux. The ReactOS VM starts up in 4 seconds, from a complete shutdown. That's 4 seconds. Some cameras take longer than that to start up. Certain use-cases can really benefit from this project, if only people would try, and that would build community support, and improve ReactOS in turn.

family techsupport requests went from one a week to one every six months after i installed linux on their machines.

@CommodoreFan64

3 жыл бұрын

None of my family uses their computers for games, so I put them on Neverware Cloudready OS Home Edition(Chromium OS that still has full Google sync features) on some older, but still very usable eduseries Lenovo Thinkpads, and I've had no tech support issues other than hey reboot the internet, or turn on the wireless printer once in a bluemoon after I showed them the basics, and it's been great getting them off Windows.

BSOD is the included feature of ReactOS to give full experience of Windows :) Joking. I love Windows 2000 and 7. After 7 I've switched to Linux: best OS ever :)

Great video. Thank you. An unusual question, what mic are you using?

@danwood_uk

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It’s a Heil PR30: heilsound.com/products/pr-30/

@marioamorim9019

3 жыл бұрын

@@danwood_uk Thanks a million, Dan.

33:00 Two billion testers? I guess that is us.

I play a lot of games that are windows only but I mean I could turn my integrated gpu back on and isolate my nvidia gpu to a virtual machine and use hyper-v to play my games

If your BIOS has VT (Virtual Technology) try turning it on for a memory boost. I tried it on my Asus Z170-A with a Skylake 6700 running at 4GHz and with it on seemed to be a lot smoother. Very good video. Word pad got swapped out for MS Word, then you couldnt open the .RTF files in Word so you reverted back to it. in office 97.

Thanks for making this -- I've been ReactOS curious for years. I'll admit, it was exactly as broken as I thought it would be. That said, I really cheer these guys on. They're underdogs for sure and if they were able to make a true, functional replacement for windows, that would be an incredible achievement.

ReactOS has been going at a snail pace. I'd say it would most likely release in the year 2525. Of course, that would all depend on IF mankind is still alive. }||[Z&E]||{

@jllucci

2 жыл бұрын

Advanced cockroaches will use it.😏

@Larry821

2 жыл бұрын

2525. IF man is still alive. Apologies to Zager and Evans.

If I'm not mistaken, the WINE project benefited massively from ReactOS development. So while the ReactOS itself might still not be something useful, by the benefits towards WINE, it is certainly a positive outcome. It would be nice if they could improve the stability and driver support. But I can't tell how easy or hard it is. Though many other OS-es, including non-Linux ones, like Haiku and SerenityOS have already a better record in the "managed to install it directly on the hardware" category.

@encycl07pedia-

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... I really can't believe they've been working on this for ~25 years and this is the best they've got. It's pretty terrible when actual Windows 95 is more stable and useful. ReactOS seriously can't even load KZread. I know it's not easy to reverse engineer stuff, but come on.

@Winnetou17

Жыл бұрын

@@encycl07pedia- Well, to be fair, neither can Windows 95 (load KZread). And it wasn't that stable either, though I'll concede that it was overall more useful as the current ReactOS version.

@CarlBach-ol9zb

5 ай бұрын

​@@encycl07pedia-, you should remember that Microsoft had a huge budget and entire teams working on Windows actively. This has very few people working occasionally and for free. Makes sense where progress will slow.

@encycl07pedia-

5 ай бұрын

​@@CarlBach-ol9zb There's a difference between slow and glacial. I backed up my own massive DVD/BD library for free (over 1000 discs, including plenty of TV shows) in under 5 years. I'm talking ripping the raw video, converting Vobsubs/PGSes to SRTs using manual OCR, compressing and converting the raw video, uploading them to online storage, and setting up a DLNA server. And that's just scratching the surface of what one single person was able to do in a fraction of the time ReactOS has been languishing. Nobody paid me a single cent and there were plenty of dead periods. EA reverse engineered the Sega Genesis in ONE year. ONE. Bleem did something similar with their Playstation and Sega Dreamcast emulators. If the ReactOS "devs" actually tried they would have finished it over a decade ago, if not two.

Wonderful review, thank you very much!

Nicevideo. But what i really missed is you trying to download and install firefox or any other windows program from the original source. Or does react os only run stuff from it package manager?

XP is still my favorite windows and that being said, i hated it at the beginning and wanted to stick with 98... because the DOS underlayer was very practical for running DOS games without any extra software and it also was still working with basically everything i did with it. But in 2003 there really was no way around it anymore and it started to grow on me and i saw how good it was (and way more stable than 98). I keep 2 XP systems on 2 dedicated Thinkpad laptops for various purposes because the Nullties Nostalgia is just so strong. It is the only windows i used for the longest time. Pretty sure React OS will find a way onto one of my machines soon. My Desktop still runs on Linux and so does my main-Laptop. Only my Video Editing machine still has a Windows 7 in the bootloader. But it never goes online so it doesn't matter anyway. :P

Unfortunately the Dutch Amiga event has been canceled, so I don’t get to seen Dan Joe and Ravi in real life 🙁

Great video with cool topic, Dan

Nice presentation, will keep an eye on ReactOS for use with old Kit. Thanks.

Instead of Firefox, you can use Basilisk UXP (Firefox fork optimized for Windows XP)

@IngrownMink4

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, runs much better than Firefox on older machines.

@HuseynMemmedov

3 жыл бұрын

@@IngrownMink4 I can easily watch KZread :D

Win 2000 was peak windows imho

Informative thanks

I've run every Windows since 3.1, except server editions and ME, I can count on one hand the number of crashes I've had on one hand. Then one year for a class (when I decided to go back to school) the class recommended a Mac, I bought a Mac book had it crash at least 2 times a week. Brought it in for repair 15 times in one year, and the last time I brought it in when the warranty would have expired in less than a week and them repairing it would have meant they needed to extend the warranty for 3 months they told me it had water damage, but refused to show me the board and where the water damage was. I took it home looked it over, no water damage (I fixed cellphones for years at a major us wireless carrier not going say the name for then to get free advertising so I know what water and corrosion damage looks like.) I called the 800 number and told them to look over my repair history and the operator said they should have replaced the MacBook after the fourth repair in 4 months and they never did, but they can't do that now since the warranty is about to expire, once I said ok I'll just forward all the receipt of the warranty repairs to the state attorney general, she said I'm going to send you box and you send the computer to us and we will send you the next model up for free, I told her no the only way they will get this old computer is if I can take the drive out, and do the exchange at the apple store so I have it the same day (so they couldn't take away the evidence that my board didn't have any water damage) after another 2 min on the phone with them (this lady was the only one that didn't hang up on me when I tried to find a solution to the issue) so fifth phone call, 3 hours total on the phone and them not following their own policies the exchange is for the next model up at the apple store, at the apple store I'm there to do the exchange, they try giving me the i5, 4 gig RAM version when I was told I would be getting the i7, 8 gig RAM version so after another 30 min at the store and getting the computer I was promised etc, I take it home, it still crashed at least once a week, and still had to be repaired 6 time that year. In contrast I bought a Lenovo y50 it has an issue 2 months in (bad backlight) , I called Lenovo they said sorry, they said we will send me a Lenovo y70-70 and a return box when I get it just send the y50 back after I do a data transfer, they never stopped apologizing, they gave me a free upgrade when all I asked for was a warranty repair, this is why I'll never buy another apple product, and every laptop I've bought since has been a Lenovo because they knew how to treat me like a valued customer, and more importantly a human being. For that class I ended up just using my Asus ROG laptop that I had at the time because the Mac was just more trouble than it was worth, and still passed that class with an A. I also cannot stand the menu bar being shared on the top with all programs, I like that each program has its own menu bar and I hate the shared menu bar on osx. I like that the and I missed the taskbar. Also the way you uninstall applications in osx, there are associated files, and dependencies that stay in the drive without a proper uninstaller, they will eventually slow down your computer a lot over time and fill up your drive faster. Due to this poor customer service, I will not buy another apple product, they have no idea how to treat customers, and there are several KZreadrs who know they make lousy products, especially Louis Rossman. As for Linux there is too many gatekeepers in the community, I tried a few distros and asked questions on forums and stuff, and have had people, and devs of the distro go out of their way to answer the question but in a condescending way, like you shouldn't be trying to do it that way, or I can do that in the terminal faster than you can do that using the GUI etc., or acting like I was a loser for not knowing every little thing about the distro, or how to do every little thing on it, I have never had a question answered in such a condescending way in a Windows forum or been called an idiot because I did not know every little thing about the Operating System. For as long as I have been using Windows I still learn new things about it and new functionality that I did not know. Another thing Linux has going against it is there is too much for the average user, first pick a distro, then pick a desktop manager, then a display manager, find good programs that work with your particular distro, display manger, etc. then decide between the plethora of different programs that do the same thing, then so on and so forth. Sorry for the long reply, but Windows is what I prefer for the way it works, the convenience of having most programs written for it, the attached menu for each program, the brilliance and simplicity of the Taskbar. It is by far the best option for an Operating System for me.

Looking forward to actually using ReactOS on an actual computer even if it is only at XP stage. Congratulations on the effort and hard work so far to the developers!

@encycl07pedia-

Жыл бұрын

Did you actually watch this disaster of a demo? You want that? Why not use an OS that can actually use the Internet and doesn't bluescreen on software that's 5+ years old?

Your screen resolution is limited because you only assigned 32MB of video RAM in the Virtual Box configuration. Bump that up a bunch and try again.

@Vlad-1986

3 жыл бұрын

Tough the same, but I think 32 mb is enough for 1920x1080, so not sure if that is the only problem. Might be wrong tho

@ChristopherGaul

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 the VM's video memory usage involves more than just the 2D framebuffer.

@n00blamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 8 MB per page, you need at least two pages so half of the 32 MB is already blown away.. and if there is no proper MMU support the fragmentation might already block the 2nd allocation.. can't comment on that since don't know ReactOS internals.. maybe it doesn't need physical linear, so all good.. but all the same, just two pages blow half the available RAM already..

@Vlad-1986

3 жыл бұрын

@@n00blamer Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation

@n00blamer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad-1986 I think my reply was full of ****, because how they can have Windows without VM.. I should think before writing nonsense.. but something similar might be in effect, as I am just commenting out of my butt so take with truckload of salt.. :D :D (edit: VirtualMemory, not Virtual Machine, a bit dumb that the acronyms overlap like that)

This loooks amazing, way to go ReactOS Team!

20:01 Yes. WordPad is in windows8. 1 but also it has icons for using mspaint with it. MSPaint is removed in win10. 21:43 Device Manager (even just the basic view) for dealing with drivers and IRQ is something I'd like to have seen in your ReactOS video. When people remember than win7 looks just like server2003 (which is vista based, having been xp based) upon disabling the fancy overlay, they get on with that server2003 style fine.

hmm maybe they can get it up to Win 7 soon and modern browsers like Edge running on it that would be awesome IMHO and i commend them for their efforts and ingenuity even if it has been 26 years now ^^

It's impressive that ReactOS exists in any form at all but it's still a long way from becoming ready for prime time.

@DVankeuren

3 жыл бұрын

which means never because other OS's are actually making progress

What did you install 98SE in that took 45 minutes? I used VMWare, i5 6300HQ w/8GB of RAM at the time, I gave the OS 1 core and like 512MB of RAM and it was done in just a few minutes, boots instantly, this was before I had an SSD. NT4 was about the same.

I grew up with Amigas and loved it. These days my windows pc is not bad but you got me thinking when you said, what do you use it for? What would you recommend for a mobile environment that boots up fast and is stable?

Might be worth taking a look at SerenityOS

Yay for WinAmp!! Haven't seen it since 2004!

@dr.velious5411

3 жыл бұрын

It has a community updated version now, it's an in-progress work but it's not bad.

@dutchdykefinger

3 жыл бұрын

Still use winamp 2.95b to this day If it ain't broke...

nice choice of video in the background :)

I find it interesting that items on the desktop are using the same icons that one of the default xfce4 icon themes do!

Thanks for going over ReactOS with us. Does it have a screen magnifier? I ask, because I'm legally blind, and I'm frantically exploring alternative operating systems, for when Microsoft stops support for Win10, in 2025. Oh, I was a hardcore Amaga user, all the way up to the early 2000s. I still dabble in Amikit, now and then. :)

@ThomasGrillo

2 жыл бұрын

@Vincent Arnaud Ok, thanks for the info. :)

I think the idea behind ReactOS is cool, the problem is, I don't see it ever being a real option to Windows. With the state it is in now, it's not usable on real hardware, and the moment you have to run it in a virtual machine, it's already not usable as an OS. I truly hope I'm wrong though, and that suddenly it starts getting more finished. It would be cool to see it working as a proper OS.

@simonebernacchia

3 жыл бұрын

I would install it in my netbook that has xp to keep it more updated but for now not gonna happen since not even support USB

that was surprisingly entertaining. im using ubuntu at the moment. i wish it would run native instruments audio software

I moved to Linux about 20 years ago. The only reason I needed Windows was for pdf editing. Once I found a decent pdf editor, coupled with Gimp, Krita, Blender and Open Office, Windows lost its appeal entirely. I have tried ReactOs many times, but it's just too unstable for real work. I do keep a Windows 2000 PC for my legacy programming in VB3, my motto being why fix it if it ain't broke.

9:36 Those gradients were already in Windows 98. In Win 2000 the default color choices were better sure. My favorite-looking Windows to date. Windows Vista/7 transparent look was fine but I hate this modern oversimplified colorless looks we have had since Windows 8. That goes to all graphics design these days, oversimplification. Everything's just white, maybe black and white.

@DFPercush

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I miss 3d buttons

I think I'd sooner install TempleOS on a box.

Good video 👍☺️ I wish it would stabilise abit more I love the old classic GUI. I always seem to have issues installing it.

@Ceeewolf

3 жыл бұрын

Install a little Win proggy named Classic Shell for a choice of classic looks in W10. I've been using it for years. Doesn't exactly mimic the oldest Windows but ... you'll see.

@mattym6749

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ceeewolf I use that on windows 7 with classic theme set. Icons actually installed as win98...and then used the 98 sounds. It took me a little while but my win7 has a 98/00 feel :)

If you read the warning in youtube for that outdated FF, it just says that the experience may not behave as expected, not that you can't use it.

I still use W2k, the only real issue is web browsing. Any idea how I coukd get "mypal" 29.1.1 running(excellent browser for XP) I do not want to use OS spoofing as that always causes issues. ReactOS would be a great way to go for us "old'uns"

I would rather hope I would get everything on Linux without being part of the microsoft eco system

A very good video! Yes, WordPad is still in Windows 10 under Accessories, when I was selling Laptops I would show people WordPad who did not have much money to buy Office. The laptop I am using ReactOS in as one of the VirtualBox OS's is a low end laptop - $30 on Ebay, a damaged Toshiba A215 X64, 1.9 GHz, Duo Core, 4 GB RAM, (upgraded from 2 GB how it came), 500 GB External Drive, (did not have a Hard Drive, Cover, or Adapter), not using a Regular HD, or Battery, (Batteries are ridiculous on these things, an 1 1/2 hour max.), to lower the heat problems. The Host of the machine is an updated version of Lubuntu 18.04, LTS, 32 Bit. My favorite versions of Linux are Lubuntu and ZorinOS. The Virtual Boxes I have on this is: Windows 98, ME, 2000, Longhorn, ReactOS, XP, and Haiku. My ReactOS is 0.413. I have 1,023 MB for the RAM, and 6.20 GB for the Hard Drive, which the way I am using ReactOS is too large, (I only am using 112 MB, amazing how low). ReactOS, install is faster than any OS one can find! I do not need or use Audio. The O/S is very responsive. The problem is overloading ReactOS, I decided to keep it simple. I have tried a lot of different software, and the only ones I can get to work outside of the Applications Manager is my Kasparov Chess Program, (I have won before at the 2000 Rating Level, so I can be good), and a download of SeaMonkey 2.33. The screen is 800x600 32 Bit, and I am using Angelus Blue Horizon as the Background. Think of Windows 2000 to XP SP2 range, and that is around where ReactOS is at, without being able to run Microsoft Programs, or almost any program not in the Applications Manager. In my version of ReactOS they actually had 52 in the Applications Manager, yet his version they wisely took it out, it is too buggy. It is my opinion that Libre is too much for ReactOS, it will make it crash. The software I use from the Application Manager without Crashes is: Abi Word 2.6, Open Office 4.15. The Browsers are actually around the XP SP2 level, Pretty Good job here, from the Applications Manager: K-Meleon, Firefox 48, MyPal, and Opera 12.18, (9.6 too slow). ReactOS is way better than TempleOS, (LOL). Fast, as showing in the Video. It is one of my favorite Operating Systems in the VirtualBox! Like Dan Woods, I like Windows 2000 a lot, and when one puts 1 GB of RAM towards Windows 2000, XP, and ReactOS they fly! With Abi Word, Open Office 4.15, Kasparov Chess, all those Browser ReactOS can be very useful!!

I would've like to have seen how it stores / sorts / organizes files like photographs. Years back a friend of mine tried to get me off Microsoft to use Linux, but as a photographer it drove me crazy not being able to see full timestamps down to the second or add an organizational column to sort by custom preferences like "date taken."

ReactOS is a good project but it's 20 years too late.

@barryguff6893

2 жыл бұрын

I've toyed with ReactOS for 20 years and it's never been anywhere near usable for day-to-day computing.

@sauliuskrasuckas4355

2 жыл бұрын

@@barryguff6893, by toying you probably didn't try to help them.

@barryguff6893

2 жыл бұрын

@@sauliuskrasuckas4355 Toying is a figure of speech. I sent plenty of bug reports. Anyway, it's not a project worth following anymore, IMO.

Fun fact: Mizu is Japanese for “water”.

@rayi512x

3 жыл бұрын

水

I started on Window ME... Now I've migrated to Ubuntu & have never looked back...

Impressive! ReactOS and Wine truly have come a long way! I remember this constantly crashing. Though, maybe it'd be less stellar running natively outside of a VM. I should test it sometime...

The problem with React os is that after 20 years it is still in alpha stage. It you point out this to the developers they answer very disappointed saying that the project needs time. I think that with these steps they will switch to beta stage maybe in 2050. It is a shame that in 2021 there isn't a real Windows alternative (not Linux or wine but a real 'windows') that could help users to fuck off Microsoft and its spyware called Windows 10.

@computernerdinside

2 жыл бұрын

I heard it's because development was halted for like 10 years as thy checked every line of code since they though a former dev may have illegally used Microsoft code.

@barryguff6893

2 жыл бұрын

It's because it's open-source and nobody is throwing money at it. It's a geek project only.

@Luxalpa

2 жыл бұрын

@@barryguff6893 If someone threw money at it then people would start to complain about it being "spyware" like Rockgi59 does.

@polocatfan

2 жыл бұрын

dude it's like 5 people at the most , the fact it's even this far is impressive

Possibly the silliest thing about Windows is that you must press Start to stop it.

@colonelpanic7865

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, you now press the Windows logo, to access the "start menu..." This was true from 95 to XP, though...

what speakers do u use t here on desk? compare to, Klipschs? :)