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@HeviNova

Жыл бұрын

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Battle Scar is a jam. Max Webster never got the recognition they deserved.

Great Band, Great Song. Don’t sleep on Max…

Max Webster the louder the better 🤘🤘. Smiles 😃 from Canada 🇨🇦

Max Webster is COOL !!!

Thanks for playing this I haven't heard this song in a long time I forgot how good it really was❤

Five minutes of pure Canadian greatness.🔥

HUGELY popular song here in Toronto. Max Webster was well-loved. If you like this, you'll probably like the whole Universal Juveniles album.

@morsecode2112

Жыл бұрын

One of the best albums ever made.

@user-qv2ur2bw3z

7 ай бұрын

Hey another Toronto Tonto there I see

This song is a major banger! I think the difference between Geddy's high voice and Kim Mitchell's lower voice works really well together. Cheers

I saw Max Webster 3 times all with Rush, and the first time I was blown away how great they are . They became one of my favorite bands, so I bought all their albums. Kim Mitchell is one my favorite guitarist now. You should check out Highclass In Borrowed Shoes album.

As a RUSH fan I stumbled across Max Webster when they supported RUSH during the Moving Pictures tour. They were very good in London that night....I bought their "million vacations " album the next day.....hey it is brilliant. Kim Mitchell's guitar work is awesome, cuts like a hot knife through butter. Check out "Paradise skies " and "Charmounian" from it. I'm sure you'd love them.

Hey Justin, great choice. Max was a great band. They opened for Rush at my first Rush show 5/22/77 in Port Huron, Mi, which is across the river from Kim Mitchell’s Sarnia, ON hometown. “Oh War”, was the last song Max did in their set, and Geddy and Al (Dirk and Lerxt to their friends) came out with hoods over their heads, and jammed along with them. Neil was playing under his white sheet shrouded kit, and i was lucky enough to see him under there, being seated 2nd row, stage left. Was an epic night for me. We had earlier snuck in a back stage door, found our way to some out of the way seats , and watched their soundcheck, where they were writing “Free Will”! I was 16yo, we skipped school that day for a very memorable adventure!

Hey Brother, glad you liked this track. Back when Rush was touring the Moving Pictures album, Max Webster was the opening act. The last song before changeover was Battle Scars. Geddy came out to sing wearing a Richard Nixon mask. And Neil was playing undercover during the song as well. Dave Myles played the opening bass lick at the beginning of the song. I don't think Alex played it live on stage, as I never saw him. Now changing directions here, you should put this album on your list to react to. There are a number of Max Webster albums, but this one was by far the most commercially successful. This was one of those albums that was good from start to finish. Pye Dubois who helped Neil write Tom Sawyer, was also the principal lyricist for Max Webster. Kim Mitchell the guitar player on the front of the album went on to have a solo career. And I would suggest doing some reactions to his material as well. If you want some suggestions, leave me a note in the comments. Max Webster and Kim Mitchell are some of my favorite Canadian artists. But when it comes to rock music, the Canadians got it going on. I can give you a whole list of artists to check out. Some that you even know. But until then, rock on brother! 🇺🇲🇨🇦

@fasteddie777666

Жыл бұрын

When I saw Geddy come out for Battlescar in Detroit he wore these oversize glasses and striped , red and white toque, like in the where's Waldo comics....he played this song with Max Webster !!!,,,,Neil and Alex didn't come out and play with them !!!...Geddy sang his parts, but didn't play an instrument....no one knew the song yet , because the album just came out ..

@squamishfish

Жыл бұрын

When Kim Mitchel and Max Webster are playing guitars I think they can get away with out Alex playing 😊

@damonhines8187

Жыл бұрын

@@squamishfish there's only Kim playing guitar with top-notch band Max Webster. The first shredder I ever heard. Great guitarist, writer and performer.

@squamishfish

Жыл бұрын

@@damonhines8187 that was my thought also it was Maxs Drummer not Neil , Alex did play with them more recently he even had grey hair that’s how recent it was

@kevinmcarthur4074

9 ай бұрын

​@@damonhines8187😅😅

Kim Mitchell is a great songwriter and guitarist. Another Canadian treasure.

So this was from Max Webster’s album Universal juveniles, with Gary McCracken on drums for Max, and of course Neil on drums for Rush. Awesome collaboration. And you can clearly make out who’s who. Max Webster was another fave band love there sound a bit more jazzy almost a Zappa thing going on in some of their music, but proud that they’re another great Canadian band, actually met Kim Mitchell at Steve’s Music in Toronto back in the 80s, really nice humble guy.

Pure solid gold Canadian rock and roll, keep your sticks on the ice boys!!

I adore the sound of Kim's guitar work. So clean and loud lol

Kim Mitchell patio lanterns is another good one

Great memories of Max Webster at the Gasworks on Yonge St. in the late 70's, seriously great band, and combined with Rush........WOW! this song hits hard right from the first note. Good for you Justin for checking out this very deep dive. 👍

Love this track, glad you liked to too.

Kim Mitchell is an amazing guitar player and singer. After Max Webster he went solo and had an amazing solo career, which is still active.

@warren_r

Жыл бұрын

Five bucks says Justin has heard both "Patio Lanterns" and "Go For Soda" somewhere along the line. Two of the best hooks in mainstream 1980s rock.

@fasteddie777666

Жыл бұрын

Max Webster musically were leaps and bounds better than Kim solo !!!

@danielwolski873

Жыл бұрын

@@fasteddie777666 Yes, but his solo stuff is great too and it was more commercially successful.

@fasteddie777666

Жыл бұрын

@@danielwolski873 Yes, I like the solo stuff, especially from Akimbo Alogo....but it's just Kim.........The other guys and Kim are part of my teenage years ....so I am Biased !!!1

Kim Mitchell so underrated.this is one of my favourite songs ever!❤

Yes, there is a live version and just as good. Met Max Webster and Rush at a bar called The Gasworks in Toronto where all up and coming bands played. Great times. More seasoned bands graduated to the El Mocambo.Even The Rolling Stones played there as part of a trial judges decision for drug related charges.

Pye Dubois was the lyricist for Max Webster and wrote many of the lyrics for Kim Mitchell. Pye had an idea for a song and presented it to Rush. It morphed into Tom Sawyer. Max Webster was an outstanding act. High Class In Borrowed Shoes is one of my favourite records, PERIOD! Final track, In Context of the Moon. Superb.

Max Webster was an underrated Canadian band who backed up RUSH! Check out Kim Mitchell's solo career!

AT 8:04 you mention you can't believe Battlescar song was recorded in 1980 since it sound 70's. Actually Max Webster started playing this great heavy song since 1974 or 75 on some of their live shows in bars and available on youtube.

@dougwristen2228

18 күн бұрын

max and rush were both toronto bands that played the highschool circuit dances , rush became more on the world stage than max did , but max opened for rush on their american tours . kim started the kim mitchell band after not getting the success he had hoped for with max webster , yes there are live clips of battlescar

I saw it performed live with Rush when Max Webster opened for them. The power was palpable. 💥

This track is a total banger. Two great bands just opening the taps and going for it, but in a really disciplined way. I especially the love the guitar tones. They've got this chorused/detuned effect going on and just sounds enormous.

Thanks for getting to this one. I think it was a fun collaboration. Max Webster is a pretty good band in the 80's, and Kim Mitchell had a a pretty good solo career in the 80's. Pye Dubois, bassist for Max Webster, collaborated with Neil on writing a few songs, most notably Tom Sawyer. Its fun to pick out the parts that Geddy, Alex, and Neil are playing. It sounds 70's because, both bands started in the 70's (also it was just 1980, barely out of the 70's).

@aladorngm

Жыл бұрын

Pye only wrote lyrics, he did not play bass (Mike Tilka/Dave Miles/Billy Sheehan) did.

Love Kim Mitchell's voice on this song, great counterpart to Geddy's higher pitch. This track was released maybe a couple of years after I saw Max Webster play at my high school, lol. Their A Million Vacations album was a good one & Kim Mitchell's solo career took off as well.

Saw Rush 17 times and Max Webster once. Max Webster is the greatest show I have ever seen on their 1996 reunion tour. I will never forget singing along to Battle Scar. Max is nothing like Rush. Check out Alex playing Battle Scar with Kim Mitchell

It’s a brilliant collaboration

If you can find a copy of Max Webster's Live Magnetic Air Album, you are in for a treat. They were a great band.

I think there's very little recordings of this. I first heard this randomly on the radio, late 90s. I heard Geddy and thought is this new Rush? WTF?! And I cranked it up. Instant playlist item.

Max & Rush were joined at the hip touring together all the time and becoming great friends, Pye Dubois wrote eclectic lyrics like this and Tom Sawyer. Urban legend has it I Think I Am Going Bald is refering to Kim Mitchell. Max Webster was a great band and this album is there most rockin'

@Bunbunfunfun

11 ай бұрын

I do beleive that is actually the story of I think I am going bald. They toured together a lot, and are all really good friends.

Wow Max Webster amazing musicians and added comedy to their music before a lot of others. The song Hangover is a must. As Kim would say some take shots at the kanga banga 🤣

@markjohnson4217

Жыл бұрын

I think it is actually 'Kanker Banger' From the song Lip Service, 'So you're the Kanker Banger, How's life on Lakeshore Road?"

Finally! One of my favorite Rush songs also.

Yeah the song totally sounds like it belongs in the 70s. To me, the 70s were the best decade for rock music, no question!

Two drummers, two bassists. Three guitars. 2 lead singers.

@fasteddie777666

Жыл бұрын

Where do you get 3 guitars ?..Terry Watkinson is Keyboards....Alex and Kim Mitchell are the guitarists....Geddy and Dave Myles are the bassists and Gary McCracken and Neil are the drummers, and vocals Geddy and Kim Mitchell.........Oh and lets not forget....Lyrics are Neil and Pye Dubois....just like the lyrics in TOM SAWYER....PYE AND NEIL are the writers....MEAN MEAN PRIDE, MEAN MEAN STRIDE, IS OBVIOUSLY A ''PYE DUBOIS'' lyric !!!

@ryancraig2795

Жыл бұрын

@@fasteddie777666 sorry I just pulled that out of my ass. I thought Webster had two guitarists besides Kim. My mistake, thanks for the correction.

@fasteddie777666

Жыл бұрын

@@ryancraig2795 no probs

@fr0103

6 ай бұрын

@@ryancraig2795 You're close, easy mistake. Kim Mitchell Band always had Kim on guitar +1.

Neil Peart said he used to sit in the back on his drums while Gary McCracken was playing along to Max Webster songs! He said he always knew Neil was back there because he really expanded the fills Gary was playing. Like Gary rolling down the kit and Neil would be playing 32nd notes on his bass drums or do triplets and quads!

I think this came out just after Moving Pictures dropped, and we were all delighted to hear Geddy's upper range was still there and still powerful. Got a lot of airplay on rock radio here in the UK. Definitely a top 10 Rush song for me.

Max Webster played Maple Leaf Gardens on New Year's Eve after the album came out and Rush joined them on stage to perform the song live! As far as I know it was the only live performance with both bands. Max (and later Kim Mitchell solo) would play it themselves all the time. Recently Alex played the song with Kim Mitchell's band on stage at some event. It doesn't seem that they video taped the studio recording. That would have been epic!

@scottshields113

Жыл бұрын

Even adding just Alex still made it great.

This song should be Canada's National Anthem!!🇨🇦🎸🥁

Just for fun sometime you need to react to “take off” Bob and Doug McKenzie with Geddy….it actually went to #16 on billboard 100

@AnthonyKellett

Жыл бұрын

😂... I've still got the single on vinyl, somewhere! Rick Moranis was 'Bob' and Dave Thomas 'Doug'.

Check out more Max Webster songs like Astonish Me, The Party, Context of the Moon, anything off Universal Juveniles album. Their limited song catalog is too notch like Rush. Do underrated

I was trying to think of a previous Max song that this song looks back to, definitely it's "Oh War". That's where the DNA of "Battlescar" comes from.

I saw Geddy join Kim Mitchell on NYE 1980 in Toronto for Battlescar. Max Webster broke up shortly after album release in 1980, as their music was not received too well in USA. Kim Mitchell then releases a solo EP in 1980, whuch was well received. Rush and Max Webster were label mates. I saw Max Webster open for Rush in Montreal 1977 Farewell To Kings Tour. Max Webster are legendary in Toronto, even 42 years after breaking up. I'll let everyone else comment their fave Max Webster tunes. Kim Mitchell has had many solo hits and still plays gigs. Kim's hits are "Rock and Roll Duty", "Go For Soda", "Rockland Wonderland", and "Patio Lanterns"

Rush's record company wanted them to make McCracken their drummer after the first album, and now you know why, two of the greatest trading licks.

*Max Webster* was the name of *Kim Mitchell's* gym teacher he disliked. Too Funny! I was the only one in my group of friends that loved my Max Webster cassette tape "Mutiny Up My Sleeve" Thanks, from Vancouver Island.

Pye Dubois, who co-wrote lyrics with Neil on Closer To The Heart, Tom Sawyer, Force Ten, Between Sun & Moon and Test for Echo was the lyricist for Max Webster. He didn't play in the band, He just wrote lyrics.

@ZenMonkey1138

Жыл бұрын

I made a mistake. I confused Pye with a friend of Neil's, Peter Talbot, regarding Closer to the Heart. (one of the sources I used to confirm was wrong)

Such a great song and such a fun time. Two of Canada's best rock bands, all buddies, hopping in to the studio together to lay this down live (I think it was the second take!). And the classic Pye Dubois lyrical twists that made his stuff so great (he was the lyricist for Max and credited on some of Rush's biggest tracks, including Tom Sawyer. I always thought he made Neil better). The two bands would do a regular New Years Eve show at Maple Leaf Gardens and I'm pretty sure they busted this out there. Max has a lot of great tracks and are very interesting (some strong Zappa influence along with more straight forward rock as well as some prog). You can listen to their top songs to get a flavour, but my favourite deep deep cut is Beyond the Moon which is pretty epic and is an incredible late night headphone listen.

Love this. Pye DuBois co wrote this & other MW lyrics w/ Kim Mitchell, & lyrics w Peart on Tom Sawyer & Force Ten. Billy Sheehan's the other bass here, Kim Mitchell's the lead vocal & guitar for MW who was very popular in Canada. Mitchell was close w Rush, toured w them w MW & had a smaller US hit w "Go For a Soda" ('84).

@stevemunro2018

Жыл бұрын

Not Billy Sheehan....Dave Myles.

@mark-be9mq

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemunro2018 yes, my bad. TY.

To my ear this is Geddy Caress of Steel era circa 75'. I honestly don't know when it was recorded but I close my eyes and hear Caress of Steel vocals, Fountain of Lamneth etc...

Some trivia about this song… It was recorded downtown Toronto studio as a massive thunderstorm raged outside!!! All their gear was crammed into this tiny studio!! Doesn’t get much better then that🇨🇦

mitchell is a legend here in canada

Justin finally. Kim Mitchell another amazing Canadian artist. Check him out.

Btw classic Geddy vocals have grown on you I see. The first album I ever bought in my life was All The World's A Stage and its Geddy in all his glory. I never looked back...

Recall that Pye Dubois co-wrote the lyrics to Tom Sawyer. They recorded that album at Le Studio at the same time as Rush made Moving Pictures. Pye Dubois is an amazing lyricist. Check out "America's Veins" to see his style. You will understand Tom Sawyer more.

Max Webster and Rush toured for years together. they got both bands in the studio to record this - Kim said they had a blast

Wow!! Never knew about this jam with Geddy Lee vocals. Thanx bro

Kim Mitchell on opening vocals.

I have a kick ass stereo system in my car (factory stereo too!) and I'll crank this up roll down the windows and roll back the sunroof and let the 21 speakers do their thing! Windows down or up, I get a lot of looks (glares).

I saw Rush with Max Webster on Oct 10th 1977 in the Amarillo Civic Center when I was 18 yo. I remember that MW was quirky and cool, but Rush was AWESOME! That was my second of many (many) Rush shows. I still have the ticket stub as a memento. An amazing time to be alive!

There's something very Spinal Tap about that opening. I'm guessing the love for this song is mostly from old Rush fans who were around in the early days and miss that hard rocking 70's sound. But yeah, Geddy delivers the goods, that's for sure.

Max Webster was a GREAT band and toured with Rush a lot. Sadly, they never achieved much commercial success beyond the local scene. They are also from Toronto. This album Universal Juveniles was an AMAZING album but sadly Max's last. The lead singer and guitar player Kim Mitchell went on to a decent solo career and still tours today. Max is also a bit of a rabbit hole band. Many songs deserving of classic status had they only achieved the success I feel they deserved. Also important to note, Pye Dubois was the lyricist for Max Webster. He didn't play any music. Just wrote lyrics. He collaborated with Neil on Tom Sawyer and lyrics to a few other songs...Some great Max songs to check out: The Party, Hangover, Paradise Skies...

I just saw this related vid all about 'Battle Scar'... Behind the Scenes Battlescar Tom Gordon Battle Scar, Max Webster Rush Cover ...pretty cool.

Dude, pleaaase! Although Battle Scar was a collaboration between Max Webster and Rush, the predominant vibe is definitely a Max Webster sound and vibe. A little back ground. No one in the band was named Max Webster, that was just the name of the band. The lead singer was Kim Mitchell, who is a kick ass guitarrist and singer front man. He left Max Webster to pursue a solo career simply as Kim Mitchell. He teamed up with Peter Frenette, who is a kick ass bass player, vocalist and song writer (Kim's right hand man) and together they wrote many Canadian rock anthems through the 80's and 90's... really cool party music. You should definitely check them out some time. Sadly, they never broke in the US market. But, yeah... if I was to bet on it, I'd say Max Webster had more input on the composition of Battle Scar than Rush did... I'm going strictly by sound, vibes, and song composition style... it's just more of a Kim Mitchell style sound.

This is a cool song. It was released in 1980 but I first heard it sometime in the late 90’s once the internet was invented. Lol. By that time Max Webster had broken up. They only did 5 or 6 albums between 1976 and 1982. They did tour with Rush quite a bit back then but by the time I first saw Rush in 1983, Max Webster were no more. It was cool hearing a Rush collaboration with another band. But to be honest the song didn’t grab me enough for me to want to hear more Max Webster. And at the time I was more interested in bands that were still together and producing new material. Apparently they only achieved any significant success within Canada. Martin Popoff (Rush biographer) and KZreadr does speak very highly of them. I really should check them out.

Bust the busters Screw the feeders Make the healers Feel the way I feel

Max Webster used to play at the pub I worked in around 77/78. Great band. A bit different but great stuff. Try Toronto Tontos for the Max Webster experience.

Not only both bands on the same song, they did it LIVE AND IN ONE TAKE! The reason it sounds so 70's is because this album was released in late 1980, and Max had been playing it live for years. Because Max and RUSH toured together for so long, the latter knew the song well, and at some point, Geddy suggested that they record it together.

Moving Pictures tour. 1981 Indy. Battle Scar was Max Webster’s encore song. As the music kicked off, Geddy slowly sauntered on stage wearing a rubber rubber mask, and kept it on for the whole song. Probably so as not to steal the show from Kim Mitchell. The crowd went nuts over that.

@scottarnest8980

Жыл бұрын

Same thing in Detroit.

Can't believe it took you this long to hear this awesome song

I got higher nthen a kite with Kim Mitchell after a concert in Cochrane Ontario at an after party...great tune

I think you might like a lot of Max Webster.

Lol man. To say that may be your fav Rush tune, wow Bro. Max was the deadliest party band ever. Kim is is an outright beast. These are 2 Canadian greats combined. I'm a sound eng from the analog days forward. Have a listen to all the Max Webster albums, they are some of the best recordings ever, the drums make me drool, references in Max! Cheers buddy!!!!! Hey, I was like around 14 when Rush Hemispheres came out, I had the red, see through, album! I was king lol.

People talk about Alex being one of the most underrated guitar players, but what about Kim Mitchell? The guy and his music never seemed to get his due much like the band KIng's X. I love his solo stuff.

This song got FM airplay in Atlanta GA

Excellent

Most cool, never heard this track before, although I know Geddy and Kim Mitchell, lead singer for Max Webster, were close, and I heard somewhere "I think I'm going bald" was written for Kim. 🤷‍♂️

Hey Teach. The bass player kicks ass. The original bass player. I'm certain he left. There is a run that he did at a live show that just floored me.

By the sound it would fit better on Caress of Steele. I heard this on an obscure college station that played tunes like this after midnight. Working second shift at a restaurant, things like that happens. Didn’t remember much from it but the fact that Geddy’s voice is on it. I guess I will have to request Geddy singing Take off to the Great White North with Bob and Doug Mackenzie?

I know it's not but I always regarded this as a Moving Pictures lost track. Maybe recorded in the same studio. Recoded it off the radio and it live on cassette for the longest time... then CD... the iPod classic. Now I can stream it as well as many other cool Max W tunes.

A long time coming

I that song from Max "Check"short sweet kick ass

Hi Justin. Great reaction again. Have you checked out Triumph? Another Canadian trio who rode on the coattails of Rush. Check out Lay it on the Line or Just a Game.

Anyone else see this live? Maple leaf gardens....

Yeah, it’s ok😊

There's a clip on you tube of Alex playing this live with them. I'll see if I can dig it up

Like me some Max!

1978 farewell to well to kings and max was the opener 😊

@Alan-fb7sl

Жыл бұрын

Listen to "waterline" from max i think you would like it

As Kim has pointed out before, this is Rush playing with Max Webster, not Max Webster playing with Rush. What a thunderbolt...

Have you heard or watched that thing from the Signals era where Geddy was the guest singer on that song Take Off by those two wacky guys I think their names were Bob and Doug Mackenzie or something, check that out if you can

@AnthonyKellett

Жыл бұрын

😂... I've still got the single on vinyl, somewhere! Rick Moranis was 'Bob' and Dave Thomas 'Doug'.

@youtoo2233

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyKellett never realized that's Rick Morantis

Back in those days I was more a Max Webster fan than Rush...no dis intended

Speaking of Canadian bands, check out Pat Travers / Heat in the Street (Aldridge) and Putting it Straight ( McBrain) albums. I believe Mars Cowling did bass on those.

You want to hear something bizarre, check out Max Webster's "Toronto Tontos".

Grade 10,for me!

There is a vid of Slash jamming it with Kim Mitchell, one of Alex too. But none of Rush and Max.

@lerxst7050

Жыл бұрын

I saw this song performed live once... but it was Kim Mitchell (solo) and Rik Emmet from Triumph (who was also solo at the time). Was cool but not the same lol

@stephenwalton8507

Жыл бұрын

@@lerxst7050 I saw the last iteration of Max Webster perform it live on the Universal Juveniles tour in 1980, sadly: their last. I felt they had all the potential of Rush, but were a whole lot more girl friend compatible (she would go to a Max show willingly, and stay through the encore).

@lerxst7050

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenwalton8507 Sadly I never saw Max Webster. They were done originally when I was around 11 lol. I saw Kim Mitchell solo many times. He did one or two reunion shows (tours?) with Max Webster which I regret not checking out! Always happy when Solo Kim plays some Max Webster tunes though!!

I'll never stear you wrong my friend. Knew you would dig it. In fact, you'd be dead from the neck up if you didn't like it!😁😎

...And they went for a soda afterward...